PipeChat Digest #548 - Saturday, October 10, 1998
 
Re: Lowrey Organo
  by "Cheryl" <info@copemanhart.co.uk>
Re:  PipeChat Digest #547 - 10/09/98
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Re: Lowrey Organo
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Hi I'm new too!
  by "Greg McAusland" <gregorymca@pavilion.co.uk>
Re: Lowrey Organo
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Lowrey Organo
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Hi I'm new too!
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Lowrey Organo
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@truelink.net>
Re: Organs On High
  by <Steskinner@aol.com>
Fwd: Books on organ building
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Organ for Sale (CROSS POSTED).
  by "Brian Pearson" <bpearson@adelaide.on.net>
Re: Organ for Sale (CROSS POSTED).
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@truelink.net>
Re: Hi I'm new too!
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@truelink.net>
organ building books
  by "Vincent Lef vre" <vlefevere@unicall.be>
Re: Organ for Sale (CROSS POSTED).
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Hi I'm new too!
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Lowrey Organo From: Cheryl <info@copemanhart.co.uk> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:20:53 +0100   > >OK! Now I've said it. I play a Lowery "Parade" > >.......................bruce cornely........................     Oh, Bruce. What a confession! What a shattering of illusions!   But how brave of you to confess so publicly! :-) (I'll be glad to offer you absolution if no-one else will.)   Cheryl       http://www.copemanhart.co.uk COPEMAN HART & COMPANY LTD Church Organ Builders Finedon Road IRTHLINGBOROUGH Northamptonshire ENGLAND NN9 5TZ   Tel 01933 652600 http://www.copemanhart.co.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ US CONSULTANCY: Copeman Hart - America Email Cpmnhartus@aol.com Tel 423 482 8600 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ AUSTRALIAN CONSULTANCY: Copeman Hart - Australia Email hamilton.stives@bigpond.com Tel 02 9983 9775 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #547 - 10/09/98 From: KriderSM@aol.com Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 06:26:06 EDT     In a message dated 10/09/1998 8:51:22 AM, you wrote:   ><< Hey...they weren't THAT bad. They sure beat the pants off of any Thomas! > Thomas...the real Gulbransen...Baldwin...Conn...Wurlitzer...all out of the > business, or gone altogether. Guess who's left? Lowery! >> > >True...and would you believe that when I was in the market many years ago... >hooked on the Lowrey spinet ....   In my younger and, so I wrongly thought, smarter years, I too thought that the Hammond, then the Gulbranson, then Conn and then Allen then _(fill in the blank)_ was the best.I fondly remember Gulbranson's lush Tibia stop, Hammond's flutes and Conn's Vox Humana. My current favorite is Allen, but who can forget the 1970s Saville for all-round realistic pipe attack and decay? In my maturity(?) I found out that due to patent restrictions no single instrument was "best".   Concerning the Organo, in the late 1940s my piano teacher had an Organo mounted to her piano, and my first introduction to the organ was on that Organo. If I did well on that week's lesson, I could play the "organ". Now I love and play pipe organs regularly as a hobby.   Concerning hanging pipe chambers; who can forget the awesome Barton pipe organ suspended from the ceiling of the old Chicago Stadium?   Stan Krider  
(back) Subject: Re: Lowrey Organo From: Myosotis51@aol.com Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:29:45 EDT   In a message dated 10/8/98 6:18:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cremona84000@webtv.net writes:   << OK! Now I've said it. I play a Lowery "Parade" .......................bruce cornely........................ >>     Ooooooh! Look! Bruce plays an ELECTRONIC organ sometimes!!!!!! (Or is that a toaster?) :-)   Vicki Ceruti  
(back) Subject: Hi I'm new too! From: "Greg McAusland" <gregorymca@pavilion.co.uk> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:42:45 +0100   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BDF3B4.9B5147A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hi Guys,   My name is Greg McAusland and this is the first time I've said anything = in this list. I've been a pipechat 'voyeur' for some months now.   I live in Brighton, UK and make my living as a church musician and = organist. At the church where I am organist, I play a turn of the = century Bishop & Son (of Ipswich) 3 manuals/ped and 25 stops. The = church only seats a hundred so I feel that I am lucky to have an = instrument with larger resources for the size of the church.   During the week I play at two local crematoria - the 'Downs' has 40 stop = 2man/ped Norwich electronic and the 'Woodvale' has two brand new Allen = Protege organs. I feel that God has called me to serve as a musician = and I am happy and honoured to so do.   I have played a wide range of pipe and electronic instruments rubbish = and awesome. Notable ones include an untouched 3 manual Father Willis = for three years in London and playing for concerts on the Grand organ = (4man Willis) at the Royal Albert Hall, London. I was lucky to be taken = around the inside of the instrument. It is said that when the = instrument was being built - a charity luncheon was held in the Swell = box (nearly wrote Lunch box!). The worst organ I ever played was at my = first post in an RAF chapel - a cheap little two manual Livingstone = organ from the 60's. My still grit my teeth at the thought of it.   Anyway I look forward to taking further part in the future.   Best wishes   Greg   ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BDF3B4.9B5147A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD>   <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.71.1712.3"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Hi Guys,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>My name is Greg McAusland and this = is the first=20 time I've said anything in this list.&nbsp; I've been a pipechat = 'voyeur' for=20 some months now.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I live in Brighton, UK and make my = living as a=20 church musician and organist.&nbsp; At the church where I am organist, I = play a=20 turn of the century Bishop &amp; Son (of Ipswich) 3 manuals/ped and 25=20 stops.&nbsp; The church only seats a hundred so I feel that I am lucky = to have=20 an instrument with larger resources for the size of the = church.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>During the week I play at two local = crematoria -=20 the 'Downs' has 40 stop 2man/ped Norwich electronic and the 'Woodvale' = has two=20 brand new Allen Protege organs.&nbsp; I feel that God has called me to = serve as=20 a musician and I am happy and honoured to so do.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I have played a wide range of pipe = and=20 electronic instruments rubbish and awesome.&nbsp; Notable ones include = an=20 untouched 3 manual Father Willis for three years in London and playing = for=20 concerts on the Grand organ (4man Willis) at the Royal Albert Hall,=20 London.&nbsp; I was lucky to be taken around the inside of the = instrument.&nbsp;=20 It is said that when the instrument was being built - a charity luncheon = was=20 held in the Swell box (nearly wrote Lunch box!).&nbsp; The worst organ I = ever=20 played was at my first post in an RAF chapel - a cheap little two manual =   Livingstone organ from the 60's.&nbsp; My still grit my teeth at the = thought of=20 it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Anyway I look forward to taking = further part in=20 the future.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Best wishes</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Greg</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BDF3B4.9B5147A0--    
(back) Subject: Re: Lowrey Organo From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:00:47 -0400 (EDT)     >... how brave of you to confess so publicly! =A0 =A0 > (I'll be glad to offer you absolution if no-one > else will.) Would that be analog or digital??   yukkata yukkata yukkata (ba dump dump)   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o o h o o ______________ o o g o o o s o ______________ o a o o   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............       It is fatal to let any dog know that he is funny, for he immediately loses his head and starts hamming it up. -- PG Wodehouse (...amazing what we learn from our dogs. ed)    
(back) Subject: Re: Lowrey Organo From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:26:15 -0400 (EDT)     >Ooooooh! Look! Bruce plays an > ELECTRONIC organ sometimes!!!!!! (Or is > that a toaster?) Yep! But only single slice!   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o o h o o ______________ o o g o o o s o ______________ o a o o   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............       It is fatal to let any dog know that he is funny, for he immediately loses his head and starts hamming it up. -- PG Wodehouse (...amazing what we learn from our dogs. ed)    
(back) Subject: Re: Hi I'm new too! From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:33:42 -0400 (EDT)   Welcome Greg, Would you share the specs of the 3/25 Bishop & Sons organ that you play. Playing in a "Crematoria" sounds like really "hot" work!!! ;-) We look forward to hearing more from you. No more "voyeurism".... what would your mother say???? ;-)   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o o h o o ______________ o o g o o o s o ______________ o a o o   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............       It is fatal to let any dog know that he is funny, for he immediately loses his head and starts hamming it up. -- PG Wodehouse (...amazing what we learn from our dogs. ed)    
(back) Subject: Re: Lowrey Organo From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@truelink.net> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 15:49:41 -0700   At 11:20 AM 10/9/98 +0100, Cheryl wrote: >> >>OK! Now I've said it. I play a Lowery "Parade" >> >>.......................bruce cornely........................ > > >Oh, Bruce. What a confession! What a shattering of illusions!<snip>   ....but Bruce...tell us. When the chapel is empty, and everyone's gone, do you play with the oooom-pah-pah thingies on it? hehehehe!   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Organs On High From: Steskinner@aol.com Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 19:54:49 EDT   In a message dated 98-10-08 09:26:55 EDT, you write:   << Girard speaks down from on high, through discreet gratings, and my does it speak! At the rink, the whole thing, guts and all, simply hangs down from the ceiling, quite low in the center of the rink floor - you can see it all happening, drums and all. >>   How about the organ at Lewis and Clark College in Portland, OR, a 3 manual Casavant where the pedal, great, (positiv) and swell hang from a basket in the center of the chapel, and a "choral" division is behind the choir loft?   Steven Skinner First Presbyterian Church of the Covenant Erie, PA  
(back) Subject: Fwd: Books on organ building From: Administrator <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 19:52:14 -0500   I received the following message today - Since this person is not on the list you will need to reply to him directly but please also CC the list since this could be a good discussion topic.   Thanks   David   >Date: Fri, 09 Oct 98 19:43:28 +0100 >From: <jorge.gomez@nuclenor.es> >To: <admin@pipechat.org> >Subject: Books on organ building >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Sender: <admin@pipechat.org> >Precedence: Bulk > > >I'd like to find books on organ building. I'm more interested in those that >contains detailed information on the measures of pipes and other parts of the >organ. The language could be English, French, German, Spanish, etc... If >you can >help me, please send an e-mail to: > >============================================ >Jorge Gomez, from Santander, Spain >jorge.gomez@nuclenor.es >============================================ > > >Thanks again. > **************************************** David Scribner Co-Owner / Technical Administrator PipeChat   850-478-9635 david@blackiris.com  
(back) Subject: Organ for Sale (CROSS POSTED). From: bpearson@adelaide.on.net (Brian Pearson) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 13:25:01 +0930   Organist Don Thompson e-mailed me the following message from California in the hope that members of the list might find it of interest. Sorry about the delay in posting, but I've been unwell of late.   Brian Pearson Adelaide, South Australia. ******************************************************************   Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 01:02:42 -0400 (EDT) From: DonTinSF@aol.com Subject: Organ For Sale To: bpearson@adelaide.on.net MIME-version: 1.0   Dear List,   Yesterday I received the following fax from the office of the Archbishop of SF. It seemed to me that this was something I should share with you.   " 89 Rank Pipe Organ For Sale   Old Saint Mary's Cathedral in San Francisco is selling a 66 voice, 89 rank pneumatic action pipe organ of 7 divisions, along with a four manual console. Built in 1966 by Swain & Keates, using Laukhuff pipes and materials, as well as some earlier Hook and Hastings pipes, it was finished by Pieter Visser in the late 1960s. Pipes/ranks/components may be purchased separately. This grand instrument can be heard in a final noontime concert "Farewell to Old St. Mary's Organ" featuring John Hirten, organist, on Tuesday, November 24, 1998 at 12.30pm. For information call 415-288-3813."   I have performed on the instrument a number of times, but not for the last three years, At that time everything worked, all console controls were operative and there were no dead notes. The organ sounds a bit "tubby" but that's nothing that new acoustics and some judicious work couldn't change.   Also, yesterday I attended the dedication of the NEW organ at Mission Dolores Basilica. It's the Renaissance R-450 by Allen and it's magnificent. The reverb in the basilica helped of course, but to this pair of ears the instrument sounded very authentic. The program said it's the first four manual installation using their newly patented "Renaissance" technology, whatever that means. The instrument has over 90 speaking voices which makes it one of the largest organs in San Francisco. An outstanding division is the E.M. Skinner "String Organ" speaking from the center dome 125 feet above the floor.   The organ can also speak from the chancel or the rear gallery, which gives great tonal flexibility, especially for special choir events (The choir performed as part of the concert yesterday and sang the Parry "I Was Glad," Gilbert Martin's arrangement of "When I survey the Wondrous Cross" and Durufle's variations on Veni Creator Spiritus). The purely organ program by organist Jerome Lenk included Concerto in B Minor after Vivaldi (Walther), Wachet Auf (Bach) - nicely played with alternating trumpet and french horn solos from front and rear of the building, Partita on Simple Gifts (Goemanne), Cantilene in G Major (Foote), Postlude in A Major (Parker), All Creatures of Our God And King (all attendees singing) and the Finale from the 1st Symphony of Vierne.   The afternoon concluded with brie and white wine in the adjoining school hall. I always thought that was a particularly Anglican refreshment but maybe times have changed.   I had the pleasure of giving a performance on the huge Ruffati in the new St Mary's Cathedral (known to locals as St Mary Maytag) a couple of weeks ago. Would it be heresy to say that I think I might have preferred to play the Allen! No flaming, please.      
(back) Subject: Re: Organ for Sale (CROSS POSTED). From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@truelink.net> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 22:05:03 -0700   At 01:25 PM 10/10/98 +0930, Brian Pearson wrote:   >I had the pleasure of giving a performance on the huge Ruffati in the new >St Mary's Cathedral (known to locals as St Mary Maytag) a couple of weeks >ago. Would it be heresy to say that I think I might have preferred to play >the Allen! No flaming, please.   Ruffati...ugh. the Fiat of pipe organs...always breaking down, but has sexy lines.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Hi I'm new too! From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@truelink.net> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 22:30:04 -0700   At 06:33 PM 10/9/98 -0400, bruce cornely wrote:   >Playing in a "Crematoria" sounds like really "hot" work!!! ;-)<snip>   Nyuk nyuk nyuk...Bruce is at it again! hehehehe   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: organ building books From: "Vincent Lefèvre" <vlefevere@unicall.be> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 09:23:51 +0200   Jorge, If you are looking to organ building books, I suggest to look for "Dom Bedos" volumes, which really the bibles of organ building. They are sold as fac similes in French language. If you don't find the right book shop, selling it in you countre, I can try to find it here in Belgium. Vincent Lef=E8vre, secretary of the non profit association "Organs in Flanders" vlefevere@unicall.be    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ for Sale (CROSS POSTED). From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 04:12:25 -0400 (EDT)   First of all, Brian, glad you're better.     >Also, yesterday I attended the dedication of > the NEW organ at Mission Dolores Basilica. >It's the Renaissance R-450 by Allen. The > instrument has over 90 speaking voices which > makes it one of the largest organs in San > Francisco. An outstanding division is the E.M. > Skinner "String Organ" speaking from the > center dome 125 feet above the floor. I just can't let this go by. Wth 90 articifical speaking voices it may be the largest artificial organ-like product in San Francisco. The "E.M. Skinner 'String Organ' " is one of my complaints about "sampling." These people should not be allowed to advertise in this way; it is disgraceful that they not only cannot sell their product on its own merit, but also must use the name of an artisan who is not alive to pronounce it a "crock". My respect for the Allen company has just fallen another.... oops, no where to go!   >I had the pleasure of giving a performance on > the huge Ruffati in the new St Mary's > Cathedral (known to locals as St Mary > Maytag) a couple of weeks ago. Would it be > heresy to say that I think I might have > preferred to play the Allen! No flaming, > please. No flames. You did say that you had been "unwell." ;-)   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o o h o o ______________ o o g o o o s o ______________ o a o o   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............       It is fatal to let any dog know that he is funny, for he immediately loses his head and starts hamming it up. -- PG Wodehouse (...amazing what we learn from our dogs. ed)    
(back) Subject: Re: Hi I'm new too! From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 04:13:50 -0400 (EDT)   Oh yeah! And you with your Rufatti/Fiat joke!   (Glad you're still on a list..... hehehehe)   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o o h o o ______________ o o g o o o s o ______________ o a o o   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............       It is fatal to let any dog know that he is funny, for he immediately loses his head and starts hamming it up. -- PG Wodehouse (...amazing what we learn from our dogs. ed)