PipeChat Digest #549 - Sunday, October 11, 1998
 
Lew Williams Plays Tonight (X-posted)
  by "Ken Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com>
Organ at St. Alban's Church, Brighton
  by "Greg McAusland" <gregorymca@pavilion.co.uk>
Re: Organ at St. Alban's Church, Brighton
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
PLEASE DON'T USE COLORS IN YOUR POSTS
  by <JCarington@aol.com>
Re: PLEASE DON'T USE COLORS IN YOUR POSTS
  by <Afreed0904@aol.com>
Books on Organbuilding
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpncorn@davesworld.net>
RE: Organ for Sale (CROSS POSTED).
  by "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net>
Re: RE: Organ for Sale (CROSS POSTED).
  by <BOBBBIRD@aol.com>
Re: Organ for Sale (CROSS POSTED).
  by "Blaine Ricketts" <blaineri@home.com>
Re: Hi I'm new too!
  by "John Winn" <john@jwinn.demon.co.uk>
Thank you bobb!
  by "VINCENT S PARKS, III" <legacyhouston@pdq.net>
AGO exams
  by "James Burkholder" <jburkhol@raex.com>
Re: Thank you bobb! (Stereo posting)
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@truelink.net>
Re: Thank you bobb! (Stereo posting)
  by "Terry Charles" <tcorgan@gte.net>
Re: AGO exams
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Thank you bobb! (Stereo posting)
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: organ building books
  by <Prestant16@aol.com>
Re: Thank you bobb! (Stereo posting)
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@truelink.net>
 


(back) Subject: Lew Williams Plays Tonight (X-posted) From: "Ken Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 08:32:33 -0400   The Rochester (NY) Theater Organ Society is proud to present Lew Williams on our 4/22 Wurlitzer at the Auditorium Center, 875 East Main St. starting at 8 p.m. Tickets at the box office are only $10 each.   Anyone that has ever heard Lew knows that this will be an event of outstanding theater organ entertainment on one of the world's finest Wurlitzers. Hope to see you here! Please e-mail me if you need directions. Or visit our website at http://theatreorgans.com/rochestr/.   Ken Evans, RTOS director    
(back) Subject: Organ at St. Alban's Church, Brighton From: "Greg McAusland" <gregorymca@pavilion.co.uk> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 13:34:11 +0100   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BDF452.AAA6DDC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hi Guys,   Bruce Cornely requested the spec. for my Bishop organ at St. Alban's, = Brighton - the church seating 100 people.   The organ came from another church in the parish not all of the ranks = were included in this rebuild. Its not a particuarly special = instrumental but the sharp/flat key notes have nicely round front edges = which look nice.   The Spec:   Bishop and Son of Ipswich, England - 1905   Great 8' Open Diapason (very full sound) 8' Viola 8' Claribel 4' Principal 4' Harmonic Flute 2' Harmonic Piccolo sw - gt ch - gt   Swell 8' Open Diapason 8' Hohlflute 8' Salicional 8' Voix Celeste 4' Principal 4' Lieblik Flute IIR Mixture (19,22) 8' Trumpet (a solo reed really) 8' Oboe Tremulant (acts upon gt & pd too!) Octave   Choir (enclosed in swell box) 8' Lieblik Gedact 8' Viola da Gamba 8' Dulcianna 4' Flute Traverso 8' Clarinet sw - ch   Pedal 16' Open Diapason (a very big boom!) 16' Bourdon 8' Octave 8' Flute gt - pd sw - pd ch - pd   tracker action in excellent condition and has needed very little = attention since installation in 1941. Above the right hand stop jamb is = a cute little cupboard with a double door and a light inside. One = assumes it is used to store pencils, erasers, prayer books etc. but I = use it as a 'drinks' cabinet filled with a set of miniature spirits to = surprise visitors - not that any of it gets consumed (during service = time at least)!   Best wishes,   Greg xxx   ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BDF452.AAA6DDC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD>   <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.71.1712.3"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Hi Guys,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Bruce Cornely requested the spec. = for my Bishop=20 organ at St. Alban's, Brighton - the church seating 100 = people.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>The organ came from another church = in the parish=20 not all of the ranks were included in this rebuild.&nbsp; Its not a = particuarly=20 special instrumental but the sharp/flat key notes have nicely round = front edges=20 which look nice.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>The Spec:<BR></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Bishop and Son of Ipswich, England - =   1905</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Great</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>8'&nbsp; Open Diapason (very full = sound)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>8'&nbsp; Viola</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>8'&nbsp; Claribel</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>4'&nbsp; Principal</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>4'&nbsp; Harmonic Flute</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>2'&nbsp; Harmonic Piccolo</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>sw - gt</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>ch - gt</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Swell</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>8'&nbsp; Open Diapason</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>8'&nbsp; Hohlflute</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>8'&nbsp; Salicional</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>8'&nbsp; Voix Celeste</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>4'&nbsp; Principal</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>4'&nbsp; Lieblik Flute</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>IIR Mixture (19,22)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>8'&nbsp; Trumpet (a solo reed really)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>8'&nbsp; Oboe</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Tremulant (acts upon gt &amp; pd too!)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Octave</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Choir (enclosed in swell box)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>8' Lieblik Gedact</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>8' Viola da Gamba</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>8'&nbsp; Dulcianna</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>4'&nbsp; Flute Traverso</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>8'&nbsp; Clarinet</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>sw - = ch</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Pedal</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>16' Open Diapason (a very big boom!)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>16' Bourdon</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>8'&nbsp; Octave</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>8'&nbsp; Flute</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>gt - pd</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>sw - pd</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>ch - pd</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>tracker action in excellent condition and has needed = very=20 little attention since installation in 1941.&nbsp; Above the right hand = stop=20 jamb is a cute little cupboard with a double door and a light inside. = One=20 assumes it is used to store pencils, erasers, prayer books etc.&nbsp; = but I use=20 it as a 'drinks' cabinet filled with a set of miniature spirits to = surprise=20 visitors - not that any of it gets consumed (during service time at=20 least)!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Best wishes,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Greg xxx</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BDF452.AAA6DDC0--    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ at St. Alban's Church, Brighton From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 11:29:55 -0400 (EDT)   Thanks Greg. That's mind kind-o-machine. What's the facade like. Any stencilling or decoration?   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o o h o o ______________ o o g o o o s o ______________ o a o o   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............     To a dog the whole world is a smell. -- anonymous    
(back) Subject: PLEASE DON'T USE COLORS IN YOUR POSTS From: JCarington@aol.com Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 11:47:15 EDT   I have been unable to read some recent pipechats because someone puts a dark background against their text.   For those of us who have MACs, the colors change from a PC's 256 color palette to Macintosh's millions of colors palette, often resulting in a darker shade than the original post, which renders the entire newsletter unreadable.   Thanks.   John Carington Chesterton Indiana  
(back) Subject: Re: PLEASE DON'T USE COLORS IN YOUR POSTS From: Afreed0904@aol.com Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 11:56:38 EDT     In a message dated 10/10/98 11:49:01 AM, JCarington@aol.com writes:   << have been unable to read some recent pipechats because someone puts a dark background against their text.   For those of us who have MACs, the colors change from a PC's 256 color palette to Macintosh's millions of colors palette, often resulting in a darker shade than the original post, which renders the entire newsletter unreadable. >>   John: I've been annoyed often by the same thing.   But there are two quick solutions (pestiferous as they may be).   1. Click in the message area and Select All. Now readable.   2. Print it out on a black-and-white printer.   Alan  
(back) Subject: Books on Organbuilding From: Richard Schneider <arpncorn@davesworld.net> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 10:49:03 -0700   Dear Listers:   Having just returned from the AIO Convention in Champaign held earlier this week, part of my activities included taking the AIO Master's Exam Review Session. One of the things we received as a handout was a rather exhaustive AIO Bibliography which covers this very subject.   As I am imminently out the door on a trip to Alabama for the next couple of days, I will not have time to scan and make this information available for dissemination until well into next week. All I ask is patience until I am able to make this happen.   Prayers for Travelling Mercies would be appreciated. 21,000# of household furniture behind me hurling down the road at 70MPH with nothing but a thin metal cab between me and it is sort of a daunting prospect!   Faithfully, -- / ^ ^ \ { (O) (O) } --------oOOOo--------U-------oOOOo------------   Faithfully,   "Arp" in the "Corn Patch"   Rich Schneider SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Organbuilders 41-43 Johnston Street Post Office Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX mailto:arpncorn@davesworld.net EMAIL (Note change in ISP's Domain-Name!)  
(back) Subject: RE: Organ for Sale (CROSS POSTED). From: "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 09:15:51 -0700   The > "E.M. Skinner 'String Organ' " is one of my complaints about "sampling." > These people should not be allowed to advertise in this way;   I'm not as anti-electronics, sampling, or digital as Bruce sometimes come across, but on this I agree with him. But for a different reason. IMHO, the electronic builder is infringing on the trademark of EM Skinner here, even if Skinner is not around to complain.   Dennis    
(back) Subject: Re: RE: Organ for Sale (CROSS POSTED). From: BOBBBIRD@aol.com Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 12:40:16 EDT     Before we start flaming the organ builder, did they (the builder) advertise it that way or are some individuals and/or the owner just calling it that?     bobb  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ for Sale (CROSS POSTED). From: Blaine Ricketts <blaineri@home.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 12:02:38 -0700   Since the present organ is u for sale, does anyone know what the Old St. Mary's, San francisco organ is being replaced with???   Blaine Ricketts    
(back) Subject: Re: Hi I'm new too! From: "John Winn" <john@jwinn.demon.co.uk> Date: 10 Oct 98 09:37:04 +0000   Hi Greg,   I visit Brighton occasionally, and I'm sorry that so far I haven't seen your church and organ.   The only organs I know in Brighton are the Father Willis in St Peter's and the, alas now not very well, Hill Norman & Beard in The Dome Theatre.   When "summer suns are glowing" next year I'll try and correct the ommision.   John     -- John Winn   Upminster, England    
(back) Subject: Thank you bobb! From: "VINCENT S PARKS, III" <legacyhouston@pdq.net> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 15:24:39 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01BDF462.18F7B060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Bravo Bob & thank you for the most rational comment about the "E.M. = Skinner" String division on the new Allen 450 at the Mission. I am = quite sure that the Allen Organ Company is not advertising or referring = to that division by that name. As an organist who plays both an Allen = Renaissance 450 and a Schlicker tracker organ on a regular basis (Allen = in the new church, Schlicker in the chapel) I can personally attest to = the tonal results obtainable by that division. Those who haven't played = or heard Allen Renaissance instruments are in no position to comment on = them - though some may be chagrined that they are selling very briskly.=20   As an experienced organ sales representative (both pipes and Allen) I = can candidly say that the 450 String Division is terrific. I can also = completely understand the owner or player likening it to similar = divisions by Skinner. The only disgrace in all this is jumping to the = inaccurate conclusion that the builder is falsely advertising or = infringing on a trademark. =20   vince parks   ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01BDF462.18F7B060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD>   <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.71.1712.3"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Bravo Bob &amp; thank you for the = most rational=20 comment about the &quot;E.M. Skinner&quot; String division on the new = Allen 450=20 at the Mission.&nbsp; </FONT><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I am quite = sure that the=20 Allen Organ Company is not advertising or referring to that division by = that=20 name.&nbsp; As an organist who plays both an Allen Renaissance 450 and a =   Schlicker tracker organ on a regular basis (Allen in the new church, = Schlicker=20 in the chapel) I can personally attest to the tonal results obtainable = by that=20 division.&nbsp; Those who haven't played or heard Allen Renaissance = instruments=20 are in no position to comment on them - though some may be chagrined = that they=20 are selling very briskly. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>As an experienced organ sales = representative=20 (both pipes and Allen) I can candidly say that the 450 String Division = is=20 terrific.&nbsp; I can also completely understand the owner or player = likening it=20 to similar divisions by Skinner.&nbsp; The only disgrace in all this is = jumping=20 to the <FONT color=3D#000000>inaccurate </FONT>conclusion that the = builder is=20 falsely advertising or infringing on a trademark.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>vince = parks</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01BDF462.18F7B060--    
(back) Subject: AGO exams From: James Burkholder <jburkhol@raex.com> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 17:16:35 -0400   Sometimes I fantasize about trying an AGO exam. I was frightened by the last TAO issue which listed a verrrry short list of successful folk last year.   Does anyone have comments about how hard the exam is? That is, does one mistake lose the battle? How many people take these tests and flunk? In some professional exams I know about the pass/fail rate is known. Obviously I'm talking about service playing or college level. Perhaps there are others who would be interested in this kind of information.      
(back) Subject: Re: Thank you bobb! (Stereo posting) From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@truelink.net> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 14:28:05 -0700   At 03:24 PM 10/10/98 -0500, VINCENT S PARKS, III wrote:   >Bravo Bob & thank you for the most rational comment about the "E.M. Skinner" String division on the new Allen 450 at the Mission<snip>   I've been in this game awhile, and all this latest round of "digital bashing" is just a continuation of the old "electronic bashing" of Allens (and later, Sevilles and Rodgers') I remember in the '60s, only now the lines of tonal distinction between the two are becoming more and more miniscule. I haven't heard the new Renaissance at all, but I'm inclined to believe there's been a technological leap forward with these instruments. I HAVE played numerous analog and earlier digital Allens and whatever, and there has been steady, notable improvement over the years. What's interesting here is that Allen Organ, making no real claims to selling "THE Skinner String division", gets pummelled because someone merely makes a metaphorical comparison in a post.   Sure, if one can get pipes, get pipes! But, if it's a choice between no organ (or a REALLY bad pipe organ) and an Allen Renaissance, one must start to look at the issue with some objectivity.   ....and NO smart-aleck replies from YOU, Mr. Cornerly...after all...   YOU play a Lowery PARADE! ...OOOM-pah-pah...OOOM-pah-pah...shhh-BOOM!   Teeeeeehehehehehee!   DeserTBoB...with 6 shooters on, and cactus on the console.    
(back) Subject: Re: Thank you bobb! (Stereo posting) From: "Terry Charles" <tcorgan@gte.net> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:40:21 -0400   Our fine friend in Cactusland says: ""I haven't heard the new Renaissance at all, but I'm inclined to believe there's been a technological leap forward with these instruments.""   If you folks have not - do so - it is a mind setting experience!   TC    
(back) Subject: Re: AGO exams From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 23:06:41 -0400 (EDT)     >Sometimes I fantasize about trying an AGO > exam. I was frightened by the last TAO issue > which listed a verrrry short list of successful > folk last year. I cannot comment first hand on the difficulty of the exam. My recommendation from listening to the experiences of others is to go ahead and give it a shot. The real benefit of taking the examination is what you learn while preparing; in addition, performing under stress (written and playing) is also a great learning experience. If you have the time and the inclination it could be very helpful to you in the long run, especially giving you the impetus to go for the other letters. Besides, the letters look really kewl after your name on a recital programme!   >How many people take these tests and flunk? Don't make no nevermind. The exam and experience (not to mention the letters) are for you!   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o o h o o ______________ o o g o o o s o ______________ o a o o   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............     To a dog the whole world is a smell. -- anonymous    
(back) Subject: Re: Thank you bobb! (Stereo posting) From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 23:11:54 -0400 (EDT)     >...and NO smart-aleck replies from YOU, Mr. > Cornely...after all... >YOU play a Lowery PARADE! >...OOOM-pah-pah...OOOM-pah-pah... >...shhh-BOOM! >Teeeeeehehehehehee!   Oh well, at least you didn't rub my nose in the pneumatic pouches of the Moller!     >DeserTBoB...with 6 shooters on, and cactus > up the console.   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o o h o o ______________ o o g o o o s o ______________ o a o o   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............     To a dog the whole world is a smell. -- anonymous    
(back) Subject: Re: organ building books From: Prestant16@aol.com Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 23:41:45 EDT   For a quick and easy overview of organs and organbuilding (without technical details) I reccomend The Organ by Peter Williams and Barbra Owen. It it not too technical, has a brief history and goes from classical to cinema organs and even has a chapter on reed organs. It has a glossary of organ stops, a seperate chapter on regestration on period insturments, and another seperate glossary on organ parts. It's only about 400 pages, and is not complicated at all to understand for an amateur, but still facinates me every time I read it. The cost is about $ 15.00 Here is all the info:   The New Grove Musical Insturment Series The Organ Peter Williams Barbra Owen Publisher: W W Norton & Company New York - London 500 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY 10110 Editor: Stanley Sadie   FPT ISBN 0-393-02555-1 (hardback) FPT ISBN 0-393-30516-3 (paperback)   If you want more detailed information, try The Art of Organ-Building by George Ashdown Audsly. Avalable at a very reasonable price (Compated to the Dom Bedos books) for about $ 30.00   If you want to know too much than The Organ-Builder by Dom Bedos is a good choice. I think you might have a hard time getting a loan from the bank to purchase the book, and I don't think the publisher finances. But... if you have $ 650.00 in spare change, you could get the two volume set (translated to English). I personally do not own a set, and find the price is the main reason. If you really want to read it, go to the library, it is much cheaper!!!   -William C.  
(back) Subject: Re: Thank you bobb! (Stereo posting) From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@truelink.net> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 21:08:32 -0700   At 11:11 PM 10/10/98 -0400, bruce cornely wrote:   >Oh well, at least you didn't rub my nose in the pneumatic pouches of the >Moller!   Hmmmm...they made nose-sized pouches??? I din't know dat!   Bwahahahaha!   DeserTBoB