PipeChat Digest #519 - Monday, September 14, 1998
 
Re: Another question (X-post)
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: Another question (*NOT* X-post'ed)
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@MediaOne.net>
Re: Another question (*NOT* X-post'ed)
  by "Ralph Martin" <rmartinjr@email.msn.com>
detective assistance
  by <RSiegel920@aol.com>
Re: detective assistance
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: detective assistance
  by <RSiegel920@aol.com>
Re: detective assistance
  by <ComposerTX@aol.com>
Re: detective assistance
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@truelink.net>
Re: detective assistance
  by <ComposerTX@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Another question (X-post) From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 08:47:25 -0500   John L. Speller wrote: > Pilcher, was rebuilt and enlarged in 1987 by Guzowski & Steppe, and it > currently has 4 manuals and 35 ranks. Was your recording before or after > the rebuild?   Probably since the lettering on the album sleeve was done in typewriter, before. Everything was typed with that cursive typeface that some nicer typewriters use. My grandmother has an old manual one that is exactly the same...so I'd guess it would be before 1987. I've never heard of "Guzowski & Steppe" before.   I also got another album I didn't tell anyone about..."Christmas Organ and Chimes" by Jesse Crawford. It would more appropriately be called "Christmas at the WurliTzer" or something of the such. I played a few songs, then put it up so the rest could be a Christmas suprise in a few months, but what I heard contained no chimes, but did use a harp, xylo., marimba, every now and then and the most I heard was the vibraphone and chrystoglott. But several songs contain no tuned percussions at all. The name must have been one to sell the record when the organ-and-chimes combo at Christmas was a fad.   Thanks for the information,   Kevin Cartwright Greenville, Alabama kevin1@alaweb.com   P.S. Send your and P. Carton's addresses and I'll send some pictures!    
(back) Subject: Re: Another question (*NOT* X-post'ed) From: Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@MediaOne.net> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:33:40 -0400   Kevin Cartwright wrote: >   > I also got another album I didn't tell anyone about..."Christmas Organ > and Chimes" by Jesse Crawford. It would more appropriately be called > "Christmas at the WurliTzer" or something of the such. I played a few > songs, then put it up so the rest could be a Christmas suprise in a few > months, but what I heard contained no chimes, but did use a harp, xylo., > marimba, every now and then and the most I heard was the vibraphone and > chrystoglott. But several songs contain no tuned percussions at all. > The name must have been one to sell the record when the organ-and-chimes > combo at Christmas was a fad. >   What? NO CHIMES as REPRESENTED by the SELLER of the album?!! Return the album for a full refund to the retailer who sold it to you. And Jesse Crawford, no less, lending his approval to this fraud! I'm glad that this outrage has finally been uncovered.   Merry Christmas, Ken ZimbelStarr  
(back) Subject: Re: Another question (*NOT* X-post'ed) From: "Ralph Martin" <rmartinjr@email.msn.com> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 19:02:47 -0400   Hi Kevin and all Regarding Jesse's Christmas album: I'm surprised that he used any percussion at all. During the years that I studied with him, I never heard him use a percussion stop. While most of his arrangements relied very heavily on re-harmonization (as do mine now) he was very adamant about doing anything at all with a hymn. He said he considered it a "desecration".   My guess is that he never bothered to even look at the album cover. Just a touch of percussion would be all he would use in a Christmas carol anyway. He would have been very interested in the finished audio quality, though.   You can't study with a teacher and not be influenced by his style. After his death I was dubbed "Poet of the Organ" on ABC's Deep Purple show even though I tried very hard not to let even a bar of his arrangement creep into mine when playing the same song. I also tried to modernize the arrangements for the later period in time. I'm still guilty (though I play rarely anymore) of still using a lot of chromatic gissandos that became known as the Crawford Roll and I still play those ballads a slowly as he did. Pretty hard to separate yourself , especially if you admired your teacher's style. I'm certain that any of you have the same problem if you play theater organ...that of being influenced by your teacher's style.   nice chatting!   Ralph Martin            
(back) Subject: detective assistance From: RSiegel920@aol.com Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 19:30:19 EDT   Can anybody render some assistance to locate the composer of a work. I have a piece entitled "March" which begins on p. 9 of a G. Schirmer publication which bears an engraving number of "17527 c" . (It seem that most of the Schirmer publications had 4 digit numbers .) It shows an original copyright date of 1905 by G. Shirmer and a copyright renewal in 1932 by G. Schirmer. I do not know if this is a suite or a collection of unrelated pieces. I have some information that the composer might be "Rodgers "or "Rogers." Many advance thanks for any assistance which might be forthcoming. R. J. Siegel  
(back) Subject: Re: detective assistance From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:14:38 -0400 (EDT)     >Can anybody render some assistance to > locate the composer of a work. I have a piece > entitled "March" which begins on p. 9 of a G. Can you hum a few bars????   ........................bruce cornely........................ o o o o ______________ o o o o o h o o ______________ o o g o o o s o ______________ o a o o   ............. cremona84000@webtv.net ............   Dogs love company. They place it first in their short list of needs. --- J. R. Ackerly    
(back) Subject: Re: detective assistance From: RSiegel920@aol.com Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:30:07 EDT   In a message dated 9/13/98 8:18:29 PM Central Daylight Time, cremona84000@webtv.net writes:   << Can you hum a few bars???? >> Bruce: No (you wouldn't want to hear it!) but its "A" section is 24 measures long (ABA) in Eb Maj, 4/4 time then modulates to 5 #s (that's all I know since I only have the first 2 pages!)   try this "hieroglyphic transcription" of the melody's first two measures:   (half) trip-le-t trip-le- t / qt qt trip-le-t qt Bb Bb C D Eb F G / Bb C Bb Ab G F /   thanks R. J. Siegel  
(back) Subject: Re: detective assistance From: ComposerTX@aol.com Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 22:37:13 EDT   I have the Directory of Tunes. I will look it up if you will tell me the direction of the notes. For example: the asterisk stands for the first note the subsequent 15 notes are then listed as Up, Down, or Repeat, so, the Star Spangled Banner would be listed as:   *DDUUU UDDDU URRUD   If you can figure out the first 16 notes, send it to me, and I'll look it up for you. Danny Ray  
(back) Subject: Re: detective assistance From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@truelink.net> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:10:52 -0700   At 10:37 PM 9/13/98 EDT, ComposerTX@aol.com wrote: >I have the Directory of Tunes<snip>   Now, THIS is interesting! Where may one fine such a "Directory of Toons"? Ooops...tunes.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: detective assistance From: ComposerTX@aol.com Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:06:10 EDT   Dester et al., The Directory of Tunes and Musical Themes compiled by Denys Parsons published by Spencer Brown & Co, Publishers 17 Halifax Road, Cambridge, England enjoy Danny Ray