PipeChat Digest #795 - Wednesday, April 14, 1999
 
Re: sticky bunns......or an embaaaarrrising problem
  by "Bill" <WGWUTILS@webtv.net>
y2k - pneumatic/tracker actions again?
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
2 weeks left
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: Edelweiss NEEDED  HELP!!!!
  by "jon" <jonberts@swbell.net>
Re: sticky bunns......or an embaaaarrrising problem
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: y2k - pneumatic/tracker actions again?
  by "jon" <jonberts@swbell.net>
Aria Sebaldina
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Embarasing organ topic
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: Aria Sebaldina
  by "B. Durden" <brendadurden@franticorganist.com>
Re: Embarasing organ topic
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: My latest brainstorm
  by "Mark Huth" <mhuth@rodgers.rain.com>
Re: 128' Pedal Stops
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: embarrassing situation
  by <ZieglerBob@aol.com>
Re: 128' Pedal Stops
  by "Aida van de Brake" <Celeste@cable.A2000.nl>
Re: 128' Pedal Stops
  by <DEMPAR1@aol.com>
Uncle Milt's  "Closing Concert Bash"
  by <RUSCZYK@ix.netcom.com>
Re: book sale revised and updated
  by "ray ahrens" <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com>
Compact practice organ for sale
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Re: My latest brainstorm
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: My latest brainstorm
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: My latest brainstorm
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: My latest brainstorm
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: My latest brainstorm
  by <KurtvonS@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: sticky bunns......or an embaaaarrrising problem From: WGWUTILS@webtv.net (Bill) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:31:37 -0400 (EDT)   Bruce, is that what is known as "Really getting down to the nitty-gritty"? Bill Wincester    
(back) Subject: y2k - pneumatic/tracker actions again? From: "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:30:20 -0400   This is what my grandmother has been bothering me with since this Y2K thing can out.   If the "Y2K bug" is going to cut out the electricity (so by my grandmother), will organ companies be busy making or converting electric-pneumatic actions to or back to tubular pneumatic actions again? Should I be gathering the money to buy a tubular-pneumatic action again? Of course you will have to install some pretty large feeder bellows because the electric blowers won't work. And you can't depend on generators to power the blowers because these third world countries who use computers to ship the gas and kerosene across the ocean because they haven't done a single #@%& thing with their computers.   ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: 2 weeks left From: "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 04:25:18 -0400   I have 2 weeks left at this present church. The church owes me over 500 smackers. In the back of everybodies minds, they know the church is going to close sometime in the near future. Our congregation is quickly dying off. (2 funerals this week) And our Monthly dinners aren't doing to well either. We use to make over $1500 6 months ago, but now, we are lucky if we can make $200. Last week, the power company sent us our third warning that if we don't pay our $5,000 electric bill, they will shut the power off. Same thing with the gas, and water. The telephone bill is only $20 a month, so that gets paid. The pastors pension was cancelled because the church just couldn't pay it. This UM confrence is not at all Christian. They take $23,500 a year as apportionments. We have not been able to pay it since the present building was built. To figure out how much we owe, take that number and multiply by 16 years. I'm thinking about making a deal with the church. If they don't pay me by time the church closes, they give me the organ. I really want this organ. It has grown to be an extension of me over these past 5 or 6 years. I have been informed that the main organist, that I am filling in for, will not take the job back when she comes back. That was from an "unidentified source". I really would prefer the organ than the money. For 1, no income tax, and 2, I'd have an insturment to tinker and practice and rebuild on. Not to mension that I have put over $500 dollars into the organ these past 5 years. So, I think it is even, don't you? Now, if I can just get my parents to build an addition and a nice big workshop attatched to the garage so I can store it and work on the pieces. After May 9th, I'm going to start at the Congregational Church across town. They just spent $6,000 to have the reservoirs releathered last summer. This past few months, they had the blower bushings burn out (wow, try saying thay 5 times, fast!). But, Unfortunantly, they called an electrician in stead of the organ technician. He came by before Christmas to tune it and the chair of the music committee said, "Oh yea, we just had the motor bushings replaced by 'City Electric' last month." The techie said to me, "I'm thinking of writing a letter to then and warning that if they do that again, I'll drop my services there." He was VERY upset. Considering the Blower was installed in the early twenties and is located in the boiler room and goes 3 stories up to the organ plus another story to the Swell chests. I would be upset too, but it's not my place to say. The church has the money to shell out and can rebuild the fund as soon as they spend it. So, I'm thinking of locating a 1913 Moller Trombone and Fagotto/Oboe extension and installing them in the organ. Plus a Solo Trumpet on the Great would be nice. The organ is high in harmonic work. The Open Diapason and Octave sounds like it has a full Great and Mixture on. The Flageolet on the Swell gives the inpression of a Cymbel II. The thing that I dread is the "Vibra-Chimes" The old fasioned steel bars and amplifyer system. The Plastic keys stick. You press the C key and the B, C, C#, and D keys all play at the same time. I am thinking about talking them into buying a set of 25 note Chimes and installing them in the Organ and playable from the Great and or Swell and or Pedals. The Console is build into the casework. I'm thinking of having them take out the COnsole and intalling a bimp out on the balcony wall infront of the choir so I can see the director and the Choir easily. Right now, I'm behind the Choir's back and facing the organ. Not a good position. The Console is not original. The inside is either a Klann or Organ Supply Industry insert. The organ was orignally Tubular-Pneumatic. The keyboards ar not original. So, the only original things are the Main windchests (Gt, Sw, Pd) and the reservoirs.   Well, I've talked long enough.   If you want anymore info, let me now. I'll be more than happy to get it to you.   Jason Comet Junior in High School bombarde8@juno.com Begining Driver - Get off the streets! |\ Organist/Choir Director | | 2/13 C. E. Morey/Knapton/Raville organ O 7 member choir   ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Re: Edelweiss NEEDED HELP!!!! From: jon <jonberts@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:36:14 -0500   It's in a collection from "Sound of Music"......probably available at any music store....many versions...easy play on up...   Jon B   DRAWKNOB@aol.com wrote:   > Can anyone help me out with a source/copy of Edelweiss??? > > I have to play it for a funeral on Wednesday as the casket is being taken out > of the church... and thus being interred in Austria! No crap!!!! > > Help Please!!!!!!! > > Embarrassed in Dallas > (No thanks to Bruce) > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: sticky bunns......or an embaaaarrrising problem From: runyonr@muohio.edu (Randolph Runyon) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:39:03 -0500   Bruce Corneley wrote: > Or...... >you could refinish the seat of the bench with that nifty nautical deck >pain...>   Sounds like a real pain in the...   Randy Runyon runyonr@muohio.edu Organist and Music Director, Norwood Christian Church (Cincinnati, OH) Professor of French, Miami University (Oxford, OH)      
(back) Subject: Re: y2k - pneumatic/tracker actions again? From: jon <jonberts@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:43:23 -0500     --------------F2FC112C4E1EC47030DD4D5A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit       Jason D. Comet wrote:   > > > > If the "Y2K bug" is going to cut out the electricity (so by my > grandmother), will organ companies be busy making or converting > electric-pneumatic actions to or back to tubular pneumatic actions again? > > Should I be gathering the money to buy a tubular-pneumatic action again?   I should hope not........if they do I'll be the first to take a gun and blow out my brains. I hope that you are not really serious with this question....   Tubular pneumatic was a 19th cent. rube goldberg that never should have happened. Many tracker instruments were ruined going to this sort of mechanism......converted to the "new improved pneumatic console action".......Geeze...........   jon b   > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > >       --------------F2FC112C4E1EC47030DD4D5A Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML> &nbsp;   <P>Jason D. Comet wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>&nbsp; <BR>&nbsp;   <P>If the "Y2K bug" is going to cut out the electricity (so by my <BR>grandmother), will organ companies be busy making or converting <BR>electric-pneumatic actions to or back to tubular pneumatic actions again?   <P>Should I be gathering the money to buy a tubular-pneumatic action again?</BLOCKQUOTE> I should hope not........if they do I'll be the first to take a gun and blow out my brains.&nbsp; I hope that you are not really serious with this question.... <BR>Tubular pneumatic was a 19th cent. rube goldberg that never should have happened.&nbsp; Many tracker instruments were ruined going to this sort of mechanism......converted to the "new improved pneumatic console action".......Geeze...........   <P>jon b <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;   <P>___________________________________________________________________ <BR>&nbsp; <BR><A HREF="mailto:requests@pipechat.org"></A>&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE> &nbsp;</HTML>   --------------F2FC112C4E1EC47030DD4D5A--    
(back) Subject: Aria Sebaldina From: runyonr@muohio.edu (Randolph Runyon) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:18:25 -0500   Can someone tell me where Pachelbel's Aria Sebaldina may be found? It doesn't seem to be in the Kalmus four-volume edition of his works.   Randy Runyon runyonr@muohio.edu Organist and Music Director, Norwood Christian Church (Cincinnati, OH) Professor of French, Miami University (Oxford, OH)      
(back) Subject: Embarasing organ topic From: "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:24:00 -0400   I have always been hot when sitting at th organ console on a hot day. I have devised a sort of air-conditioning/heating system for pipe organs.   Take a small blower, make a couple air-tight ducts and feed them out through grills aimed at your face and body located on the far outer edges of the stopjambs near the roll-top (if you have one). Then to make the bench. Take a couple pieces of wood the length of the bench, make a bench top with a lot of holes drilled through the top board and sndwich side pieces of about inch-thich stock between the two boards. take a flexible tube and run it down the leg(s) of the bench and hook it up to the blower. Of Course, it being an organ, you would have to hire a professional organ building company to take into consideration all the lenghths of runs and the diameter or inside dimensions of the ductwork and the size of the blower. Of course, you couldn't put your music on the side of you when it is one or else the congregation can see your music flying all over the place.     Jason Comet Junior in High School bombarde8@juno.com Begining Driver - Get off the streets! |\ Organist/Choir Director | | 2/13 C. E. Morey/Knapton/Raville organ O 7 member choir     ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Re: Aria Sebaldina From: "B. Durden" <brendadurden@franticorganist.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:33:37 -0700   Hi, It is in Spielbuch Kleinorg V.1. It is published by Peters although I don't see it in their catalog. Thanks, Brenda Durden The frantic Organist -----Original Message----- From: Randolph Runyon <runyonr@muohio.edu> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 8:20 AM Subject: Aria Sebaldina     >Can someone tell me where Pachelbel's Aria Sebaldina may be found? It >doesn't seem to be in the Kalmus four-volume edition of his works. > >Randy Runyon runyonr@muohio.edu >Organist and Music Director, Norwood Christian Church (Cincinnati, OH) >Professor of French, Miami University (Oxford, OH) > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Embarasing organ topic From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:51:29 EDT   In a message dated 4/13/99 10:26:38 AM Central Daylight Time, bombarde8@juno.com writes:   << I have always been hot when sitting at th organ console on a hot day. I have devised a sort of air-conditioning/heating system for pipe organs. Take a small blower, make a couple air-tight ducts and feed them out through grills aimed at your face and body located on the far outer edges of the stopjambs near the roll-top (if you have one). Then to make the bench. Take a couple pieces of wood the length of the bench, make a bench top with a lot of holes drilled through the top board and sndwich side pieces of about inch-thich stock between the two boards. take a flexible tube and run it down the leg(s) of the bench and hook it up to the blower. Of Course, it being an organ, you would have to hire a professional organ building company to take into consideration all the lenghths of runs and the diameter or inside dimensions of the ductwork and the size of the blower. Of course, you couldn't put your music on the side of you when it is one or else the congregation can see your music flying all over the place. >>   Jason,   Thanks for the idea.... However, it sounds a bit complicated for me.... I'm just an Organist/ChM after all! Sounds like you're a regular Bob Villa :-) Keep up the good work and you'll be a pipe organ builder extraordinaire.   Embarrassed  
(back) Subject: Re: My latest brainstorm From: "Mark Huth" <mhuth@rodgers.rain.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:07:14 PST       Jason McGuire wrote:   > I sometimes use two that might be interesting: > > Toccata Pontificale by Gordon Young (somewhat catchy, not hard but > congregation thinks it is) > Toccata on"Praise God, From Whom All Blessings Flow" by Michael Burkhardt > > Anyone else use these?  Yes, I use both. Another which kind of fits in this category is Fred Bock's Toccata on the Old Hundreth. Sounds much more difficult than it really is, and ends on a great resolution in C major.   Mark       Mark Huth Rodgers Instruments, LLC mhuth@rodgers.rain.com http://www.rodgersinstruments.com   ==========================   Actual quote from grade school essay on classical music: 'Refrain means don't do it. A refrain in music is the part you better not try to sing.'    
(back) Subject: Re: 128' Pedal Stops From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:26:22 +0100   >Hi list, > >Yes, the organ is listed in the NPOR but the listing raises some queries - >like the lack of an address for the church (it is just described as "St. >Michael, City of London") and the statement "Address or organ specification >doubtful". It looks like a wonderful instrument - but, I wonder, does it >really exist?? Perhaps one of our knowledgeable UK list members might be >able to comment? >   I was rehearsing for a concert at a church today, and I got talking to the organiser, who although he isn't an organist, loves organ music - probably more than you and I (if that is possible!). He was telling me about a recording he has of a 5 manual instrument in a church in London. It isn't St Pauls, so I guess that it is this one.   Richard.    
(back) Subject: Re: embarrassing situation From: ZieglerBob@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:47:47 EDT   With respect to the above subject, how 'bout a nice bench pad? I've had one since I bought my unnamed electronic back in '76 and have never had a problem.   Peace,     Bob Ziegler zieglerbob@aol.com Playing in the key of "off" in beautiful downtown Sauk Village, IL.      
(back) Subject: Re: 128' Pedal Stops From: Aida van de Brake <Celeste@cable.A2000.nl> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:56:56 +0200   Hi All,   I've had some mail from people who seem to be grieved by the fact that they think I fooled around with them about a document that doesn't exist. I'm talking about index "N07816" on http://www.bios.org.uk/npor.html.   I'm very sorry for wasting anybody's precious time, but when I run a query on this index number, I honestly do get the stoplist that I mailed to this list before. Two years ago though, when I ran into this document for the first time, I had run a query using "%gravissima%" as a stop name. This query now doesn't give me the expected organ of St. Michael's in London anymore. Nor does a query on building name "%Michael%" in town name "%London%. But I've tried this index number over and over again, and every time it gives me the exact same stop list, so, why are there others who didn't get the same document? And why don't I get this stop list using fields other than "record index"? Can anyone explain this to me?   Of course I know it's not very likely to be a reliable document (what to think of a stop knob labelled "rubato"?) But I would like to know how something like this can end up on such a TMHO prestigious and reliable site.   Thanks in advance,   Cheers,   Aida.  
(back) Subject: Re: 128' Pedal Stops From: DEMPAR1@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:21:27 EDT   Aida, I ran the same index number and got the list with the 128' stop just like you said.  
(back) Subject: Uncle Milt's "Closing Concert Bash" From: RUSCZYK@ix.netcom.com Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:27:21 -0500 (CDT)   As many of you already know, Uncle Milt's Pipe Organ Pizza in Vancouver, WA will be closing on June 30. With this one last concert has been planned as detailed below.....     DATE: June 5, 1999   TIME: Doors open and food starts at 5 P.M., Music at 6 P.M. till when ever!!!!   Artists: Wendy Kieffer-Patrick Donna Parker Andy Crow Deam Lemire Skip O'Donnell and more!!!!   Format: DINE and LISTEN.....All you can eat pizza, salad bar, and non-alcoholic beverages included (Beer and Wine at regular bar prices). Children welcome, but must remain with an adult at all times.....game room will be closed.   Cost: $20.00 per person / Limited Reserved Seating Only   Tickets available by mail or at Uncle Milt's (No Phone Orders). By mail, Please send check or money order made out to Uncle Milt's w/self addressed return envelope or indicate to "hold tickets for pick-up" to the following address:   Uncle Milt's Pipe Organ Pizza Concert Tickets 2410 Grand Blvd Vancouver, WA 98661   For those coming from out of town, Uncle Milt's is about 12 miles from Portland International Airport, 2 miles from the Vancouver Amtrak station, located between I-5 and I-205 at the intersection of Grand Blvd and Forth Plain Road in Vancouver. A few hotels that are less than 5 miles from Uncle Milt's are listed below.   Sleep Inn/Portland-Vancouver Mall 360-254-0900   Comfort Suites/Portland-Vancouver Mall 360-253-3100   Extended Stay America/Vancouver 360-604-8530   Heathman Lodge/Vancouver 360-475-3100   Residence Inn/Vancouver 360-253-4800     If anyone has specific questions, please e-mail me privately at the above address..........   Bob........from Uncle Milt's    
(back) Subject: Re: book sale revised and updated From: "ray ahrens" <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:16:28 PDT   Bob,   Thanks. a $30 money order is on its way.   Ray Ahrens         _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com  
(back) Subject: Compact practice organ for sale From: KriderSM@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:40:49 EDT   This is a "must sell" situation. Practice organ for sale: Some assembly required :-) Schantz 2 manual horseshoe console, (built in the late 1930s) w/8' Flute & 4' Principal ranks, (maker unknown) keyboards are removed, pedal board, rectifier, blower; 2 ranks on three wind chests chests built in the 1980s; -offset chest for low stopped flute pipes; -chest for flutes; -chest for principal; Owner has just sold a small home and must move organ out. Owner retired from the pipe organ business and is an organist; Console is stripped of pneumatic action in preparation for installing solid state stop action. Organ must be moved within two weeks or it will be junked. Call 1-740-941-0114, ask for Jim.   PS. I am merely relaying this message, and have no more information... Sorry!   Stan Krider  
(back) Subject: Re: My latest brainstorm From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:34:10 -0400 (EDT)   Friends, for the 4th toccata on Pentecost, I've decided to play my own "HB Toccata," as on that Sunday we commemmorate the birth of the church. I improvised this piece for my former pastor's birthday one Sunday and it came out nicely. So I'll go with this one to round out my ToccataFest. My pastor loved the idea when I told him Tuesday morning. He's going to "suggest" the congreg be seated for the postludes in May. cool, huh?   Neil Brown, AAGO, MMus Barnegat NJ USA    
(back) Subject: Re: My latest brainstorm From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:09:59 EDT   Kewl! Neil~~~ Great news,,,,I might just drive down to hear you on a nice Sunday. Where I was brought up in mid jersey,,one never got up and left before the postlude was over, it was considered very bad manners, but then,,,I am an old man and "ways" have changed. Best of luck on postlude month! Regards, ---Roc  
(back) Subject: Re: My latest brainstorm From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:23:55 -0400 (EDT)   Roc, that would be nice to have you visit. Just remember, if you come for 11:00 service, I'm wiped out by then and am no longer having complete connections between brain and extremities. The folks here have finally begun to be more or less respectful during the preludes, so hopefully in time they will come to enjoy the postlude time too. One step at a time. Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: My latest brainstorm From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 04:11:49 -0400 (EDT)     > I'm not quite ready to turn a worship into > Halloween and play the Bach D-minor as of > yet. Strangely, I always feel guilty when I play the d-minor in church, even after it has been requested!   > But, I do think halloween is on a Sunday this > year, soooooo, how about it room? Shall we > do it en masse?? Neil, Would that be at the midnight en masse?? ;<)   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   Dogs need to sniff the ground; it's how they keep abreast of current events. The ground is a giant dog newspaper, containing all kinds of late-breaking dog news items, which, if they are especially urgent, are often continued in the next yard. --Dave Barry    
(back) Subject: Re: My latest brainstorm From: KurtvonS@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 04:15:22 EDT   Good gracious, Bruce....don't you ever sleep! I've traditionally played the T&F at Tenebrae as the prelude, seems to help attendance at a usually spare service. KvS