PipeChat Digest #796 - Thursday, April 15, 1999
 
Re: 128' Pedal Stops
  by "Richard Scott-Copeland" <organist@hantslife.co.uk>
Organist air conditioning (Was: Embarasssing Organ Question)
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpncorn@davesworld.net>

ganist air conditioning (Was: Embarasssing Organ Question)
        by <ROBIN88866@aol.com>
ganist air conditioning (Was: Embarasssing Organ Question)
        by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
 latest brainstorm
        by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
ganist air conditioning (Was: Embarasssing Organ Question)
        by "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net>
ganist air conditioning (Was: Embarasssing Organ Question)
        by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
ganist air conditioning (Was: Embarasssing Organ Question)
        by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
filter
        by "Steven Margison" <steve@organman.com>
ail filter
        by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
8' Pedal Stops
        by "Barry H Bodie" <bbodie@InfoAve.Net>
t Announcement
        by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
ganist air conditioning (Was: Embarasssing Organ Question)
        by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
ltiple Postings
        by "William Lengyel" <theorganist@webtv.net>
ltiple Postings
        by "William Lengyel" <theorganist@webtv.net>
ltiple Postings
        by <Afreed0904@aol.com>
 latest brainstorm
        by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
ganist air conditioning (Was: Embarasssing Organ Question)
        by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
8' Pedal Stops
        by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
ail filter
        by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
ltiple Postings
        by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
requency formula
        by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
ltiple Postings
        by "William Lengyel" <theorganist@webtv.net>
osity question
        by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
ltiple Postings
        by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
: Organist air conditioning (Was: Embarasssing Organ Question)
        by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
rsons Technology-lack thereof
        by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
ltiple Postings
        by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
rsons Technology-lack thereof
        by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
ltiple Postings
        by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
ltiple Postings
        by <KurtvonS@aol.com>
ltiple Postings
        by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
ltiple Postings,et al
        by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
ltiple Postings,et al
        by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
lays & switches, reeds
        by "Ron & Mandy" <ronwest@spiderweb.com.au>
 latest brainstorm
        by "William Lengyel" <theorganist@webtv.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: 128' Pedal Stops From: "Richard Scott-Copeland" <organist@hantslife.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:33:59 +0100   Aida wrote:   >Of course I know it's not very likely to be a reliable document (what >to think of a stop knob labelled "rubato"?) But I would like to know how >something like this can end up on such a TMHO prestigious and reliable >site. >   In the same way as we are talking about it, NOW!   Richard and Emma Scott-Copeland Southampton England    
(back) Subject: Organist air conditioning (Was: Embarasssing Organ Question) From: Richard Schneider <arpncorn@davesworld.net> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 05:52:39 -0500   Jason and list:   Your suggestion about installing ventilation grilles on the console bolsters has already been thought-out and implemented by Schoenstein on the console for the Mormon Tabernacle. They did this because that building is not air-conditioned, and under the hot television lights, the organist would nearly swoon. The blower is built right into the console, and if memory serves, they have a variable-speed controller, so the organist can control how much wind is being delivered.   There is nothing new under the Sun, except that which is old and forgotten!   Faithfully,   "Arp"      
(back) Subject: Re: Organist air conditioning (Was: Embarasssing Organ Question) From: ROBIN88866@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:45:50 EDT   Good heavens!!!!!!!!!!! WHY in the world was this ONE message sent FIFTEEN times???????     Robin  
(back) Subject: Re: Organist air conditioning (Was: Embarasssing Organ Question) From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:57:45 EDT   In a message dated 4/14/99 8:47:12 AM Central Daylight Time, ROBIN88866@aol.com writes:   << Good heavens!!!!!!!!!!! WHY in the world was this ONE message sent FIFTEEN times??????? >>   I think he has "Happy 99".... which raises the question do we have it now???   John  
(back) Subject: Re: My latest brainstorm From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:24:15 -0400 (EDT)   I occasionally sleep, but basically am a night person. Often I manage to make it on just a few hours sleep. It's genetic, I guess.   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   Dogs need to sniff the ground; it's how they keep abreast of current events. The ground is a giant dog newspaper, containing all kinds of late-breaking dog news items, which, if they are especially urgent, are often continued in the next yard. --Dave Barry    
(back) Subject: RE: Organist air conditioning (Was: Embarasssing Organ Question) From: "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:28:50 -0700   > I think he has "Happy 99".... which raises the question do we > have it now???   Happy 99 would come attached to the email as a file, "happy99.exe".   Perhaps Arp's trigger finger was shakey on the mouse button?   BTW, if you do get mail with happy 99, as long as you don't run the exe, you won't get the infection.   Dennis Goward      
(back) Subject: RE: Organist air conditioning (Was: Embarasssing Organ Question) From: Administrator <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:41:36 -0500   >> I think he has "Happy 99".... which raises the question do we >> have it now??? > >Happy 99 would come attached to the email as a file, "happy99.exe". > >Perhaps Arp's trigger finger was shakey on the mouse button? > >BTW, if you do get mail with happy 99, as long as you don't run the exe, you >won't get the infection. > >Dennis Goward   And I have the server set to filter and stop the Happy99 virus. I haven't really checked it to see if it works since I don't have a copy of Happy99 floating around but the software developers say that it should work.   David **************************************** David Scribner Co-Owner / Technical Administrator PipeChat   850-478-9635 mailto:david@blackiris.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Organist air conditioning (Was: Embarasssing Organ Question) From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:52:05 -0400 (EDT)     >Good heavens!!!!!!!!!!! =A0 WHY in the world was > this ONE message sent FIFTEEN times??? I don't know! I don't know! I don't know! I don't know! I don't know! I don't know! I don't know! I don't know! I don't know! I don't know! I don't know! I don't know! I don't know! I don't know! I don't know!   But..... maybe his morning coffee gave him a twitchy send finger!! ;<)   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   Dogs need to sniff the ground; it's how they keep abreast of current events. The ground is a giant dog newspaper, containing all kinds of late-breaking dog news items, which, if they are especially urgent, are often continued in the next yard. --Dave Barry    
(back) Subject: Email filter From: "Steven Margison" <steve@organman.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:11:22 -0500   OK, this is off topic, I know, but perhaps it will get rid of some of the other off topic stuff. It would appear that all the organ lists have more than their fair share of useless posts. Aww, c'mon, admit it -- a lot of threads turn into drivel after the first 6 posts. There is a great way to deal with it. It's called a "filter". Not all mail programs have it. But the one I use does, and makes the job of filtering email about as easy as it can get. The program is "Email2000" from Parson Technology, and is available for WIN95/98/NT. (AOL subscribers, this program doesn't work with your service.) A trial version is downloadable from   http://new.shoptlc.com/product.asp?OID=4037658   and to purchase the product online it is $40 and all you do is enter a code number into the trial version. Installation is totally simple and completely idiot proof. Of course, you still have to enter your email address and such, just like any email program or internet program, but you've already done that at least once, right?   To filter messages, you simply right click on the offending email and pull up the "junkyard" filter. This dialog box will automatically retrieve the sender's name, and/or subject, and you can then choose how you want the filtering done, and what the filter should do -- like move the message to the wastebasket. I have QUITE a few filters active right now. For example, I filter any message with Y2K in the subject, I filter any message from the thread relating to sweaty backsides on the bench, and I even have a few filters for specific individuals. (If you're one of those that explains why I never reply to you -- I never see your messages <grin>!!!)   I have NO association with Parson Technologies (www.parsonstech.com) and I get NO commission or referral fee from this program. I just happen to think it is the best and easiest Internet email program to use and, as a jaded computer professional, I don't hand out kudos easily -- hardly ever actually. For those of you with multiple email accounts, this program will retrieve messages from ALL of them automatically! What a delight!   So, in conclusion my friends and potential flamers, try out Email2000 or at least try out the filter features of your current program and just start letting your PC ignore the crapola you don't want to see anymore, instead of clogging the mail server with more of the same. 'Kay??!!   If any of you should try Email2000 and have problems setting it up, please email me privately and I'll try to help. That's about the most generous offer I can make and shows you how I feel about the product.   'Nuff said -- back to lurker status.     |===================== Steve Margison =====================| | Organs, Theatres, Woodworking, Lots more at my WebSite: | | www.organman.com | | A "Family Friendly" Website | |==========================================================|    
(back) Subject: Re: Email filter From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:21:45 -0400 (EDT)   >and I even have a few filters for specific > individuals. (If you're one of those that > explains why I never reply to you -- I never > see your messages <grin>!!!) Gee, Steve! I wondered why I hadn't heard from you in such a long time hehehehe   (name withheld)   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   Dogs need to sniff the ground; it's how they keep abreast of current events. The ground is a giant dog newspaper, containing all kinds of late-breaking dog news items, which, if they are especially urgent, are often continued in the next yard. --Dave Barry    
(back) Subject: RE: 128' Pedal Stops From: Barry H Bodie <bbodie@InfoAve.Net> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:00:27 -0400   The problem you are having in entering the number is that you are entering the letter O as opposed to the number zero (0) after then N in the index number. I suggest you try entering zero and the specification will appear, albeit after a few minutes due to the slow server at Cambridge.   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Aida van de Brake Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 5:57 PM To: piporg-l the list; Pipe Chat - The List Subject: Re: 128' Pedal Stops     Hi All,   I've had some mail from people who seem to be grieved by the fact that they think I fooled around with them about a document that doesn't exist. I'm talking about index "N07816" on http://www.bios.org.uk/npor.html.   I'm very sorry for wasting anybody's precious time, but when I run a query on this index number, I honestly do get the stoplist that I mailed to this list before. Two years ago though, when I ran into this document for the first time, I had run a query using "%gravissima%" as a stop name. This query now doesn't give me the expected organ of St. Michael's in London anymore. Nor does a query on building name "%Michael%" in town name "%London%. But I've tried this index number over and over again, and every time it gives me the exact same stop list, so, why are there others who didn't get the same document? And why don't I get this stop list using fields other than "record index"? Can anyone explain this to me?   Of course I know it's not very likely to be a reliable document (what to think of a stop knob labelled "rubato"?) But I would like to know how something like this can end up on such a TMHO prestigious and reliable site.   Thanks in advance,   Cheers,   Aida.   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Concert Announcement From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:33:05 -0400   Lorenz Maycher, organ concert on E. M. Skinner, 1911 3 manual Opus 191, Friday, May 14, 7:30pm, First Congregational Church, Rock St., Fall River MA Info. 508-673-1105  
(back) Subject: Fw: Organist air conditioning (Was: Embarasssing Organ Question) From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:16:32 -0500   I received Happy99 the other day, saw it in time, did not open it,and zapped it into points beyond. Mine said in the "subject" box - Real Big Organ. Glad I caught it in time.   Rick   -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Goward <dgoward@uswest.net> To: 'PipeChat' <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 12:30 PM Subject: RE: Organist air conditioning (Was: Embarasssing Organ Question)     >> I think he has "Happy 99".... which raises the question do we >> have it now??? > >Happy 99 would come attached to the email as a file, "happy99.exe". > >Perhaps Arp's trigger finger was shakey on the mouse button? > >BTW, if you do get mail with happy 99, as long as you don't run the exe, you >won't get the infection. > >Dennis Goward > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Multiple Postings From: theorganist@webtv.net (William Lengyel) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:20:18 -0400 (EDT)   Something is wrong here. Don't know what, but have multiple messages of everything posted on this list since this AM. Not a big problem for me, but owners need to check it out!   Bill Miami, FL    
(back) Subject: Re: Multiple Postings From: theorganist@webtv.net (William Lengyel) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:24:58 -0400 (EDT)   On second thought, maybe it is a bad contact on someone's send key. A keyboard cipher?   Bill Miami FL    
(back) Subject: Re: Multiple Postings From: Afreed0904@aol.com Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:56:05 EDT     In a message dated 4/14/99 4:21:41 PM, theorganist@webtv.net writes:   >multiple messages of >everything posted on this list since this AM.   Just in case it helps in figuring it out, I got it on ONE post, but on no others.   Alan  
(back) Subject: Re: My latest brainstorm From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:20:37 -0400 (EDT)   Bruce, if you would like to play at the midnight enmasse on Halloween, be my guest. Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Organist air conditioning (Was: Embarasssing Organ Question) From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:26:05 -0400 (EDT)   Why did I get six or seven of the exact same message? --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: 128' Pedal Stops From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:35:19 -0500   Barry H Bodie wrote: > > The problem you are having in entering the number is that you are entering > the letter O as opposed to the number zero (0) after then N in the index > number. I suggest you try entering zero and the specification will appear, > albeit after a few minutes due to the slow server at Cambridge.   It is my understanding that BIOS has now withdrawn this website. Though there is a St. Michael's in the City of London -- viz. St. Michael, Cornhill, and it does have an organ rebuilt by Rushworth & Dreaper, this particular stoplist would appear to have been spurious.   John.  
(back) Subject: Re: Email filter From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:36:59 -0400 (EDT)   Is that the same Parsons Technology that is SUPPOSED to be working on system for the Garden state Parkway??    
(back) Subject: Re: Multiple Postings From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:44:57 -0400 (EDT)   Or, a cyber cypher    
(back) Subject: Easy frequency formula From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:53:11 -0500   I have found the promised formula for finding frequency. I believe I like the looks of it better than using the "98 digit decimal numbers" over and over...and ooooovvvvver... Since my computer does not allow fancy text in e-mails, the EXPONENT figures are in {} rather than the regular superscript:   F=440 x 2{n/12}   "x" means multiply "F" is frequency "n" is the number of the note above or below (- or +) A/440.   Please note that {n/12} is the EXPONENT, no to be simply multiplied. I don't know how well it works, I've not used it. *This comes out of a high school text book...* ;-) I'd be interested to see other peoples' results, but I don't have time to test it myself. Happy 128'ing!   BTW: My organ teacher said he thought he remembered seeing a 128' Resultant in Royal Albert Hall, which he thinks has three 64's. Can anyone clarify on this? He also explained the practical use of a 128' stop, and made reference to the bass drums of an orchestra. He said it doesn't have to be in tune, even the low 12 pipes can be of the same or random pitch, but as long as it provides the "rumble" of the bass drums of an orchestra, THAT is what will make it useful and beautiful. Makes sense to me.   KRC; Future owner of a really strange residence organ, containing the Haskell Toilet's pipe recreation samples from an old 32' diaphone, known as the Gallery Pedal Double SubContra Farty Shaker 128'-32'. Also, future creator the transformed former 32' forte-scale pedal Posuane: the Heluva Shaker 64'-16', and the exposed "woopie" whistle ensemble, Feline Celeste 2'. In five years, come and see the NEW AND IMPROVED Band Fife Mixture VII (1/2')!! 90" of ear-splitting fun!!! Help the fundraiser for the 300" Mega Double Grand Ophicleide enChamede 16'-4', mounted over the private auditorium seating, dangling in an "upside down," circular, and random resonator length configuration, taking part in a large hanging sculpture representing the spirit of classical organ music.   (I'm sure some of the classical organ purists are ready to "let me have it." I'd better quit while I'm still alive.)    
(back) Subject: Re: Multiple Postings From: theorganist@webtv.net (William Lengyel) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:00:46 -0400 (EDT)   A "cyber cypher."   Brilliant!   Bill Miami, FL    
(back) Subject: A curiosity question From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:37:58 -0400 (EDT)   With the 15 postings of the aircond system at the Tabernacle Organ in Salt Lake, my mind began to ponder this: We know of the beautiful instrument in the Tabernacle. But, does the Mormon Temple itself have an organ? If so, what builder?   Just curious, is all. Neil Brown, AAGO, MMus Barnegat, NJ USA    
(back) Subject: Re: Multiple Postings From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:39:09 -0400 (EDT)   Thank you, Bill. That is why my father calls me son. :) --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Organist air conditioning (Was: Embarasssing Organ Question) From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:26:01 EDT   In a message dated 4/14/99 3:17:08 PM Central Daylight Time, dutchorgan@svs.net writes:   << Mine said in the "subject" box - Real Big Organ. Glad I caught it in time. >>     Gee! that would have tempted me.... lo, beware Satan works in terrible ways!   John  
(back) Subject: RE: Parsons Technology-lack thereof From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:29:32 EDT   Yeap Neil! It is indeed,,, all we can hope is that they do software better than they do automotive vehicle testing and inspection. I dont know why NJ used them,,there was a bit of flap a while back that they had a very poor track record even before the parkway thingy...But,,thats Zoo Joisey,,,politics first. last, and always!   Cheers,, ---Roc  
(back) Subject: Re: Multiple Postings From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:29:43 EDT   In a message dated 4/14/99 9:46:40 PM Central Daylight Time, Innkawgneeto@webtv.net writes:   << a cyber cypher >>   Good God!!! New terminology!!! Way to go Neil, you're famous now!   John  
(back) Subject: RE: Parsons Technology-lack thereof From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:36:36 -0400 (EDT)   I thought so. Another person said no. Plot continues I guess, completely off topic huh? Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Multiple Postings From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:37:24 -0400 (EDT)   John, more like infamous!! --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Multiple Postings From: KurtvonS@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:42:05 EDT   John will soon be infamous too, with comments like his last!  
(back) Subject: Re: Multiple Postings From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:44:54 EDT   In a message dated 4/14/99 11:39:24 PM Central Daylight Time, Innkawgneeto@webtv.net writes:   << John, more like infamous!! --Neil >>   Hmmm, I thought I was the infamous one on the list... This room isn't big enough for two of us! LOL  
(back) Subject: Re: Multiple Postings,et al From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:52:16 EDT   Hey John----- Infamy is short lived on this list,,,,that was earlier this week,,it does not count any more! The ajudicators that determine who is infamous and who is not have slept since then,,,so yer back in the best of graces bud! (not that you ever left it with me <G>) Cheers, ---Roc  
(back) Subject: Re: Multiple Postings,et al From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 01:02:11 EDT   In a message dated 4/14/99 11:53:38 PM Central Daylight Time, GRSCoLVR@aol.com writes:   << Hey John----- Infamy is short lived on this list,,,,that was earlier this week,,it does not count any more! The ajudicators that determine who is infamous and who is not have slept since then,,,so yer back in the best of graces bud! (not that you ever left it with me <G>) Cheers, ---Roc >>   Ahhh, thanks be to God for short term memory :-)  
(back) Subject: Re: Relays & switches, reeds From: "Ron & Mandy" <ronwest@spiderweb.com.au> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:53:34 +1000   Hi John,     ---------- > From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Cc: PIPORG-L@LISTSERV.ALBANY.EDU > Subject: Relays & switches, reeds > Date: Tuesday, 13 April 1999 9:36 > > 1 61 x 21 XY switching matrix, It has 61 magnets to operate a contact bar > each which in turn can contact any one of 21 magnet operated contact bars. > Looks like it would allow any of 21 stops to be connected to a keyboard. > The coils are black, and the contacts are made with wires. Does anyone know > who might have made this device? > Hi, If this switching matrix is mounted in a wooden case about 1' 10" wide by 3' 1 1/2" high by 4 1/4" deep and has the stop magnets mounted on a center panel and the key magnets mounted at the bottom of the case it sounds suspiciously like a Compton switch stack. These are good - my instrument works on Compton switches and they are wonderfully reliable. Cheers, Ron  
(back) Subject: Re: My latest brainstorm From: theorganist@webtv.net (William Lengyel) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 02:05:30 -0400 (EDT)   Neal,   Does the Toccata Alla Rhumba have a latin flair, syncopated rhythms? If so I want to learn it. Since Miami is 90% caribbean hispanic they would love it. I will use it during the offertory. Hopefully it will shake some more money out of their stingy little pocketbooks for the new organ/redecorating fund. :-)   Bill Miami FL