PipeChat Digest #804 - Tuesday, April 20, 1999
 
Re:Desparate
  by "Jasper Jenkins" <jasper68@webtv.net>
Re: Hendersonville, NC Harrison and Harrison
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Re: Hendersonville, NC Harrison and Harrison
  by "Robert  Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net>
Re: Hendersonville, NC Harrison and Harrison
  by "Robert Horton" <gemshorn@ukans.edu>
Percentage of Trackers in the U.S.
  by <ManderUSA@aol.com>
Re: E.M.Skinner Grand Ave. Methodist?
  by "Daniel W Hopkins" <danielwh@auracom.com>
Re: Hendersonville, NC Harrison and Harrison
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@truelink.net>
Subject headers........
  by "jon" <jonberts@swbell.net>
Re: Technical Question ---  Wurli valves
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Hendersonville, NC Harrison and Harrison
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Technical Question ---  Wurli valves
  by <ORGANUT@aol.com>
good music in Maine
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: good music in Maine
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: good music in Maine
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re: Hendersonville, NC Harrison and Harrison
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Re: good music in Maine
  by <JSRANDKLR@aol.com>
Organ Crawl
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re: good music in Maine
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@truelink.net>
Re: good music in Maine
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
Re: good music in Maine
  by "John  M. Doney" <jdoney@email.msn.com>
Re: Hendersonville, NC Harrison and Harrison
  by <Afreed0904@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re:Desparate From: jasper68@webtv.net (Jasper Jenkins) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 05:52:50 -0400 (EDT)   Hi : I am sorry if I am out order but I am trying to locate a Auto Harp for a church and have not been able to do so thus far. I have hopes someone in th list has some knowledge that will help me. If so pls email me direct. Thanks and once again I apologize for being off subject. JJ    
(back) Subject: Re: Hendersonville, NC Harrison and Harrison From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:30:17 -0500   Afreed0904@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 4.18.99 10:51:15 PM, jlspeller@stlnet.com writes: > > <<Over 75% of new instruments built in England today are > tracker (which compares with about 90% in the rest of Europe), >> > > John: > > I'm not even informed enough to know whether this is an impossible question; > and from a lesser person than you I would not presume to ask it. But would > you have any idea what the corresponding figure would be for North America? > Much less. Perhaps 15 or 20%.   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Hendersonville, NC Harrison and Harrison From: "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:42:39 -0500   It is interesting to me that another Episcopal Church in nearby Ashville has a 2 manual Walcker. Who would think ! ? My family is from that area. So glad to learn of this new installation. Robert   ---------- From: John L. Speller <jlspeller@stlnet.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: Re: Hendersonville, NC Harrison and Harrison Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 6:30 AM   Afreed0904@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 4.18.99 10:51:15 PM, jlspeller@stlnet.com writes: > > <<Over 75% of new instruments built in England today are > tracker (which compares with about 90% in the rest of Europe), >> > > John: > > I'm not even informed enough to know whether this is an impossible question; > and from a lesser person than you I would not presume to ask it. But would > you have any idea what the corresponding figure would be for North America? > Much less. Perhaps 15 or 20%.   John   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Hendersonville, NC Harrison and Harrison From: Robert Horton <gemshorn@ukans.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:55:50 -0500   At 10:17 PM 4/18/99 -0400, you wrote: >The organ is thoroughly English in every aspect, from the Principal Chorus >on the Great to the Willis-inspired Full Swell, including a Cornopean. The >Orchestral Trumpet is a horizontal reed on 10" wind pressure, which speaks >from behind the fa=E7ade of the organ. It is a true "party horn" in every >respect. I can understand the need to have EP action in order to accomodate the movable console, but why is the horizontal reed speaking inside the case? Wouldn't a hooded reed accomplish pretty much the same thing?   >The acoustics of the church are nothing short of marvelous. The sanctuary= is >of stone and plaster with a hard, varnished wood ceiling and a slate floor. >Pew cushions are nowhere to be found. Every sound of the organ can be heard >from anywhere in the church, no matter how soft. Great to hear that there are still people out there interested in architecture that reflects part of the transcendance of the Almighty. Unfortunately, most of the next generation will have been raised on a tradition of stick-frame and drywall construction resounding with the incessant thumpity-thump of praise choruses...doesn't bode particularly well, does it?   Cheers, Robert Horton - DMA Student, University of Kansas 1603 West 15th St. #207A, Lawrence, KS 66044 http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~gemshorn/   Q. What's the difference between light and hard? A. You can sleep with a light on.  
(back) Subject: Percentage of Trackers in the U.S. From: ManderUSA@aol.com Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:12:54 EDT   John Speller writes: > <<Over 75% of new instruments built in England today are tracker (which compares with about 90% in the rest of Europe), >>   Alan Freed writes:   > John: > I'm not even informed enough to know whether this is an impossible question; > and from a lesser person than you I would not presume to ask it. But would > you have any idea what the corresponding figure would be for North America? > To which John Speller replies:   Much less. Perhaps 15 or 20%.   John   To which Malcolm Wechsler adds that he thinks Mr. Speller's percentage may be too low. A look at the April TAO makes him wonder. The cover featured organ by Dobson is mechanical. All four organs in the New Organs section are mechanical - by Martin Pasi, Johannes Klais, Jaeckel, and opus 2 of Panizza Organs in Caledonia, WI. The Klais (Cologne Cathedral) doesn't really count, not being in the U. S., and one wonders, in fact, why it is actually included in a space usually devoted to American installations. It doesn't bother me - I just wonder. The list of Recent Installations shows 8 electric action organs, and 5 mechanical action organs, so here the ratio is different, but still better than 15% or 20%. Counting ranks (what else is there to count once the IRS is satisfied) on that list, 194 electrically blown ranks were built, and 98 stick driven ranks were built, hovering around 50%. I realize information from one issue of TAO does not a realistic survey make. Anyone want to check a year's worth of TAO??   Are there organists on the list who drive a Chevy "Tracker?"   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler Mander Organs, Ltd. - U. S. A. www.mander-organs.com              
(back) Subject: Re: E.M.Skinner Grand Ave. Methodist? From: Daniel W Hopkins <danielwh@auracom.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:32:09 -0300   What caused this leak in the first place I hate to hear of a Pipe Organ that gets damaged Especially one of this importance Please keep us posted on hte condition of this organ Daniel    
(back) Subject: Re: Hendersonville, NC Harrison and Harrison From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@truelink.net> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:09:50 -0700   At 11:55 PM 4/19/1999 -0500, Robert Horton wrote:   >Q. What's the difference between light and hard? >A. You can sleep with a light on.   ROFLAO!!! Cornely...did you get this one in yer collection yet? LOLOL!   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Subject headers........ From: jon <jonberts@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:37:06 -0500   I supposed that it would be too much to ask that everyone change the subject header when the subject changes....I enjoy the jokes and comments, but what I really signed on this list for was communication concerning pipe organs and stuff like that. If the headed reads."Hendersonville, NC Harrison and Harrison"....it would be nice if at least something about the instrument was mentioned....   It was a funny joke......   jon bertschinger    
(back) Subject: Re: Technical Question --- Wurli valves From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:47:04 -0500   I understand that ARNDT Organ supply supplies the right thing.   If you want to absolutely sure, e-mail our technical advisor Dave Kopp:   dave@dydacomp.com   John V      
(back) Subject: Re: Hendersonville, NC Harrison and Harrison From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:09:01 -0400 (EDT)   Rob rote: > Unfortunately, most of the next generation will > have been raised on a tradition of stick-frame > and drywall construction resounding with the > incessant thumpity-thump of praise > choruses...doesn't bode particularly well, does > it? Interesting you mention the thumpity-thump.... Last night at the revival we sang: Revive us again, To God be the glory, There's within my heart a melody, and Victory in Jesus to open. To close we sang: This is the day, and several other "choruses". What a let down that was. Those little choruses can't hold a candle to a strongly written hymn. I still don't see the attraction of singing those things once or twice, much less over and over and over.   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   No matter how little money and how few possessions you own, having a dog makes you rich. -- Louis Sabin    
(back) Subject: Re: Technical Question --- Wurli valves From: ORGANUT@aol.com Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:57:46 EDT     <Correct Wurli primary valves>   John,   I contacted OSI. They do have the correct valve. It appears that the description for the right valve is cross matched with the P/N in the computer. We got the problem corrected, and in fairness to OSI, they agreed to take the incorrect valves back with no restocking fee. The same problem seemed to exist with cup washers. One type is recessed and the other mounts above the surface. Thanks for your input.   Later, Phil L.      
(back) Subject: good music in Maine From: runyonr@muohio.edu (Randolph Runyon) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:21:09 -0500   An acquaintance of mine is moving from Flemington, New Jersey, to Sunset, Maine. She has greatly enjoyed listening to good organ and choral music in her former New Jersey home but is, I am thinking, wondering where she will be able to find the same in the wilds of Maine. I don't quite know where Sunset is, but can any Down Easters fill me in on what suggestions I might give her?   Randy Runyon runyonr@muohio.edu Organist and Music Director, Norwood Christian Church (Cincinnati, OH) Professor of French, Miami University (Oxford, OH)      
(back) Subject: Re: good music in Maine From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:15:57 -0400 (EDT)   >An acquaintance of mine is moving from > Flemington, New Jersey, to Sunset, Maine. > She has greatly enjoyed listening to good > organ and choral music in her former New > Jersey home but is, I am thinking, wondering > where she will be able to find the same in the > wilds of Maine. If it's any consolation, I'd pretty much give up everything to live in Maine, amongst all those beautiful little churches with gorgeous little pipe organs.... not to mention the scenery!!   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   No matter how little money and how few possessions you own, having a dog makes you rich. -- Louis Sabin    
(back) Subject: Re: good music in Maine From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:42:47 -0400   Bruce, most of those "beautiful little churches" in Maine don't have pipe organs! Massachusetts has far more, and is a prettier state too, IMO! In answer to the question about organ music in Maine, I believe PipeDreams is heard over a Portland ME station. Wish we had it near Worcester MA, can't get it from Cambridge MA here. I am conducting a daylong organ crawl in Worcester County MA (central MA) the day after our Region I AGO Convention. Includes 5 vintage pipe organs, Casavant-Freres (2), E. M. Skinner, Aeolian-Skinner, and W. B. D. Simmons, with excellent demonstrators. I will post the info. in a separate posting for any who might be interested. It is also on our website for the Convention: http://www.bershad.com/ago   Judy Ollikkala  
(back) Subject: Re: Hendersonville, NC Harrison and Harrison From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:59:30 -0500   Robert Horton wrote:   why is the horizontal reed speaking inside the case? > Wouldn't a hooded reed accomplish pretty much the same thing?   Cavaill=E9-Coll used to place his en chamades inside the case, and the same is true of the Mander at St. Ignatius Loyola in New York.=20 Personally I think inside the case is better -- coming through the facade pipes seems to give a little more richness to the sound without cutting out much if any of the brilliance. An inside en chamade would still be more brilliant than a hooded reed, though. So many outside en chamades sound kind of "blatty."   John.  
(back) Subject: Re: good music in Maine From: JSRANDKLR@aol.com Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:11:01 EDT   Pipedreams faithfully on Maine Public Radio, 10:00 Sunday nights.  
(back) Subject: Organ Crawl From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:23:40 -0400   POST REGION I CONVENTION ORGAN CRAWL SPONSORED BY WORCESTER CHAPTER, AGO   THURSDAY, JULY 1, 1999, 9AM TO 5PM   CHAIRPERSON JUDY OLLIKKALA   Visit 5 vintage pipe organs within Worcester County while enjoying local scenery and fine companionship. Registration fee includes air-conditioned coaches, catered lunch, fine organ demonstrations, hymn singing, and brochure with history of churches and instruments, stop-lists, and biographies. Organs: "The French-Canadian Connection" -- Casavant-Freres Opus 649, 1916 romantic 4 manual in an artistic setting with superb acoustics, and 1967 Opus 2938 classic 3 manual, plus a visit to an 1868 W.B.D. Simmons tracker in an 1816 National Historic Monument church, designed by Charles Bulfinch, which remains without central heat (wood stoves), Ernest M. Skinner 1927 Opus 721 intact 3 manual in an 1837 building, and Aeolian-Skinner 1942, 3 manual Opus 1036, with an OHS Historic Plaque. Organ Demonstrators include Erik Johnson, Peter Krasinski, William Ness, Stephen Roberts, Frederick Teardo, and Renea Waligora. Pickup and drop-off will be at the Crowne Plaza Hotel, Lincoln Square, Worcester, School St. entrance. Departure is 9am sharp. Registration for this post-convention event is $40.00 and should be mailed separately from the Region I Convention form. Please make checks payable to "Worcester Chapter, AGO" and label "organ crawl". Registrations will be confirmed. Please mail form cut-off and check to -- Judith Ollikkala, 71 Deerfield St., Worcester, MA 01602-4348 Tel. 508-754-7885 e-mail address: 71431.2534@compuserve.com DEADLINE IS JUNE 23, 1999   ****************************************************************   NAME(S)_____________________________________________________   ADDRESS____________________________________________________   TELEPHONE/E-MAIL________________________________________   ENCLOSED_______________        
(back) Subject: Re: good music in Maine From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@truelink.net> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:00:24 -0700   At 05:15 PM 4/19/1999 -0400, bruce cornely wrote:   >If it's any consolation, I'd pretty much give up everything to live in >Maine, amongst all those beautiful little churches with gorgeous little >pipe organs....     Not ta mention...ya get ta eat a-lotta CHOWDAH....'n SNAPPAH....'n PLAY YER TUBER...in CUBER. Ayuh....     heheheh!    
(back) Subject: Re: good music in Maine From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:46:24 -0700     > >>If it's any consolation, I'd pretty much give up everything to live in >>Maine, amongst all those beautiful little churches with gorgeous little >>pipe organs.... > > >Not ta mention...ya get ta eat a-lotta CHOWDAH....'n SNAPPAH....'n PLAY YER >TUBER...in CUBER. Ayuh.... > I don't know how far Colby College is from where you'll be, but I went to Thomas Richner's Church Music Institute ... yikes, whee, nearly 25 years ago .... and they had a 3-manual Walker in the chapel. There was also a very nice little tracker in an Episcopal church within walking distance of the college and a couple of others I can't recall enough details about. Organs are there!   Jason  
(back) Subject: Re: good music in Maine From: "John M. Doney" <jdoney@email.msn.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:41:02 -0000   Randy - Tell your friend to fear not about good music in Maine. I lived there for 8 years, and Maine Public Radio is good. Every Sunday night we started with "With Heart and Voice" the very good choral program, and went into "Pipe Dreams." There is also an independent classical music station in Rockland (WAVX where I worked for a few years) and I think it is now a part of a chain (WBACH?). The Portland Symphony does well and the wonderful Austin in City Hall Auditorium is used quite frequently. Brunswick has Bowdon College with many good concerts, there is Bates in Lewiston, as well as Univ. of Maine in Orono.   The trouble is shoveling out to get to these places. Let me also mention the Bay Chamber Series in Camden, one of the nicest towns I know.   JOHN          
(back) Subject: Re: Hendersonville, NC Harrison and Harrison From: Afreed0904@aol.com Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:39:22 EDT     In a message dated 4.18.99 10:18:59 PM, bbodie@InfoAve.Net writes:   <<Stay tuned for more miracles >>   Will do. And may your tribe increase, especially in a part of the country where (on hears) there is much room for increase.   Alan Freed