PipeChat Digest #810 - Saturday, April 24, 1999
 
Re: Plane Sawn Caps & Dry Lumber Correction
  by "Robert Carver" <RCARVER@skybest.com>
Re: E.M.Skinner Grand Ave. Methodist?
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: good music in Maine
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Maine Music
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: VIRUS: happy99.exe
  by "ADMINISTRATION" <admin@pipechat.org>
(no subject)
  by "Joe Vitacco" <jvitacco@interactive.net>
hands crossing each other
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: VIRUS: happy99.exe
  by <DEMPAR1@aol.com>
Re: organ bloopers
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: hands crossing each other
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: copyrights.
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: copies anyone?
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Belgian Franck Stamp
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: ``Fanfare'' Fugue in C - Bach
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: copies anyone?
  by "Matt Baker" <poinsettia@netxn.com>
Re: hands crossing each other
  by "ray ahrens" <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com>
Re: hands crossing each other
  by <HOLYMUSIC@aol.com>
RE: favorite organ pieces
  by "vjmoore" <moorehse@midwest.net>
Re: organ bloopers
  by "John  M. Doney" <jdoney@email.msn.com>
RE: favorite organ pieces
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
1871 Hook & Hastings
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: organ bloopers
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: organ bloopers
  by "John  M. Doney" <jdoney@email.msn.com>
Re: organ bloopers
  by <Posthorn8@aol.com>
Looking for a Hammond light bulb!
  by "gregory@mke.earthreach.com" <gregory@mke.earthreach.com>
New Member
  by "Constantine Vournazos" <Vourncc@99main.com>
Re: New Member
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: organ bloopers
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Plane Sawn Caps & Dry Lumber Correction From: RCARVER@skybest.com (Robert Carver) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 07:16:14 -0400 (EDT)   This line :   > It will, however, cup away from the pith if x decreases (it dries >more) and towards the pith if it x increases (it absorbs moisture).   Should read:   It will, however, cup away from the pith if EMC decreases (it dries more) and towards the pith if it EMC increases (it absorbs moisture).    
(back) Subject: Re: E.M.Skinner Grand Ave. Methodist? From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 00:21:39 -0400 (EDT)   Daniel, Kansas City is proned to flooding, so I wonder if the proverbial creeks rose? Now I know it would take lots of flooding to reach a pipe chamber, so don't bombarde me. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: good music in Maine From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 00:41:22 -0400 (EDT)   I believe Colby College produces (or produced) a delightful Holiday concert special around Christmas time on public television. I saw it one time and was quite impressed. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Maine Music From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 00:47:28 -0400 (EDT)   Friends, please nix my last post. It was Middlebury College in Vermont, not Colby (no disrespect meant toward Colby). --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: VIRUS: happy99.exe From: ADMINISTRATION <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:25:23 -0500   Dear List   As far as I can tell, having checked on two different machines, the Happy99 file was rejected by the listserv software. I had put a filter in to reject it but haven't had any way of checking until now.   If anyone received the virus via the list this time around please let me know but I am hoping that everyone was safe on this go round.   DO NOT reply to the list about this but send a note to the Admin address or to my personal address below.   Thanks   David      
(back) Subject: From: jvitacco@interactive.net (Joe Vitacco) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 11:52:26 -0400   The new CD of the Atlantic City Organ and a double CD of the Wanamaker Organ are available from <<http://www.greatorgancds.com>>. Just Click on the 2 biggest on the home page.   Also a new CD of the All Saint Worcester Organ is in the Organ and Choral CD Section with CDs of Saint Mary the Virgin, NYC and the Skinner at Girard College.   If any members of the list wishes to sell their own CDs on the site send a review copy. I will then contact you.   Thanks     JAV Recordings, Inc. Recorders of fine organ music Joseph A. Vitacco, President Great Organbuilders of America Series Order fine organ CDs from our Web Store 43 Wellington Court <http://www.greatorgancds.com> Brooklyn, NY 11230      
(back) Subject: hands crossing each other From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:31:40 PDT   I love pieces that challege me. One such challenge are pieces which require the organist to cross his hands over each other. So far, there are 3 that come to mind. They are:   "allego assai vivace" from Sonata #1 by Mendelssohn "toccata tu es petra" from "Byzantine Sketches" by Henri Mulet "procession" from "Byzantine Sketches" by Henri Mulet   Can any of you think of any others?   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: VIRUS: happy99.exe From: DEMPAR1@aol.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:15:36 EDT   I received an e-mail yesterday with the happy99 virus as an attachment.  
(back) Subject: Re: organ bloopers From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:56:51 +0100     >Here's something we should all have fun with. Anyone out there ever have "trouble" with an organ? Before every concert I play, I set the pistons and toe studs (something we've all done). Someone got to the organ and erased some of them. During a concert, I pushed on one and it didn't work. Instead of getting the combination I programed (full organ with 32' Bombarde), I ended up with light flutes and a celeste! What a riot. It took me about 5 seconds to find another piston with the same setting and then drew the reeds manually. I can laugh about it now but at the time it was annoying. Anyone else have some stories like that to share? > > Carlo >     I have played two concerts at a church called St Matthews, one was during a school concert in which I accompanied the choir, the played a solo. The other one was with the Northampton Male Voice Choir in which I just played some solo's to break up their program.   In the school one, during the rehearsal in the day the whole of the swell would cipher if drew a swell stop - this meant that I could buck it for the choir, but not the solo. Luckily I know a good organ builder who came and fixed it for free in about ten minutes. The other time, was about two weeks ago, and about ten minutes before the concert, someone in the choir vestry, which is sort of inside the organ (it's weird!) said that water was pouring from the organ chamber, aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!!! Luckily when we went inside to investigate, it was coming from outside, not the organ.   Another weird experience was when my teacher played a recital for the local organists association. Nothing went wrong, but the console for our organ is in between the main werks, and the positive organ - very cramped, and I had to stand directly behind him and crescendo the organ stop by stop - with him playing fast massive chords, we whacked each other several times!!!   Richard. =========================================================   This message was sent to you by Richard Pinel. rpinel@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk   Want your coffee black? - Are there other colours?    
(back) Subject: Re: hands crossing each other From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:06:34 +0100   >I love pieces that challege me. One such challenge are pieces which require the organist to cross his hands over each other. So far, there are 3 that come to mind. They are: > >"allego assai vivace" from Sonata #1 by Mendelssohn >"toccata tu es petra" from "Byzantine Sketches" by Henri Mulet >"procession" from "Byzantine Sketches" by Henri Mulet > >Can any of you think of any others? > > Carlo     THE WIDOR TOCCATA!!!!!!!!!!!!   Richard. =========================================================   This message was sent to you by Richard Pinel. rpinel@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk   Not tonight, dear. I have a modem.      
(back) Subject: Re: copyrights. From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:18:25 +0100   >Yes, most apropos ! > >I recently started a new position and took on the thankless challenge of >reorganizing the music library. The church over the years spent quote a lot >on published music, but when they were short a few copies...well you know >the rest of the story. I noticed that as time progressed, less concern was >there to have any originals except one! Well, that has changed there and >the pile for the garbage service looked more like Mount Anthem ! My pastor >was under the impression that copying hymns in bulletins was ok because >they were a church.......hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Yes, the law is the law and >besides, it's just not right. I think the example I have just given shows >how the copy machine has directly affected the industry; not so much in >terms of price, but keeping music in print. >     A few churches in England have been recently caught for copying, so my organ teacher decided to sort ours out. He binned every photocopy we have (exept psalms) and ordered them all new. This in all cost at least £7500. The things that cost the most were things like 36 copies of Medelssohn's St Pauls for the 3 movements we sometimes sing, and many giant anthem books for the same reason. He also got 36 copies of the Langlais mass (at £18.50 a time), because we may do it some time!!!   Richard. =========================================================   This message was sent to you by Richard Pinel. rpinel@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk   Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional      
(back) Subject: Re: copies anyone? From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:21:20 +0100   >The church I serve has given blanket permission for their congregations to make >photocopies as you describe SO LONG AS WE HAVE BOUGHT THE HYMNALS that these >copies substitute for...in other words, if our choir does NOT have hymnals for >each choir member, then it's against the copyright laws for us to make copies >for them. It's OK only to the extent that it's an effort to "lighten their >load," so to speak. That's how the pastor and the director of music understand >it, so who am I (the lowly organist) to contradict them? > >Rod Murrow     For a long service with much music, we tend to make a book with all of the hymns in and most of the anthems, they are destroyed at the end but it makes life easier (we do have copies for all of the choir of all of the pieces).   Richard. =========================================================   This message was sent to you by Richard Pinel. rpinel@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk   "No! You can't have any of my lobster," said Tom, shellfishly    
(back) Subject: Re: Belgian Franck Stamp From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:25:23 +0100     Hi,   Please could I have a copy (both please!!!),   Thanks very much,   Richard. =========================================================   This message was sent to you by Richard Pinel. rpinel@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk   famous last words: .....of course I checked it for viruses!      
(back) Subject: Re: ``Fanfare'' Fugue in C - Bach From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:30:52 +0100   >Glenda and list; >Yes, the Biggs book is still in print - I saw it in a rack just not long ago. >I've only been on this list about 24 hours and already have seen several >messages offering to send copies of music to other list members - a blatant >violation of copyright laws. I did see one person who had second thoughts and >withdrew his offer, thankfully. > >I urge all musicians, especially CHURCH musicians, to strictly obey the >copyright laws. Music is expensive enough, but to hand copies back and forth >only causes the cost to go even higher. > >That's my two cents' worth for this evening. > >Rodney Murrow >   One could copy a friends version to try it before he brought it!!!   Richard =========================================================   This message was sent to you by Richard Pinel. rpinel@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk   Tagline? What Tagline??    
(back) Subject: Re: copies anyone? From: Matt Baker <poinsettia@netxn.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:14:35 -0700   I've been reading with interest all the posts on copyrights and copying music and just wanted to mention a couple things. Remember, "copyright" doesn't necessarily automatically mean "it's illegal to copy" but rather it means the publisher/author has the legal say in what can/can't be done with it. So.....if you want to make copies of a piece of music the proper thing would be to contact the publisher first and ask about policies and permissions. That way you know for sure you're doing thngs the nice and legal way. Just my $.02 for whatever it's worth.   -- < Transmit src: poinsettia@netxn.com ID1 LCARS Channel 1 Lineout > <YuSeEkMeAtNo31101993 http://www.netxn.com/~poinsettia/index.html>      
(back) Subject: Re: hands crossing each other From: "ray ahrens" <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:44:08 PDT   Bach's Trio sonatas, trio settings of chorale preludes.         _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com  
(back) Subject: Re: hands crossing each other From: HOLYMUSIC@aol.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 19:42:28 EDT   Toccata from the Fifth Organ Symphony---Widor  
(back) Subject: RE: favorite organ pieces From: vjmoore <moorehse@midwest.net> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:03:27 -0500   At 11:55 AM 4/23/99 -0700, you wrote: >Well, I've stayed out of this, but I gotta get my list in: > >1. Marche Grotesque, Purvis (I think it's a hoot) >2. Le Petite Cloches, Purvis >3. Greensleaves, Purvis (Hmmm . . . there seems to be a pattern here)   On November 22, 1957, at the age of 12, my mother dragged me to the dedcation concert for the organ in our new parish shurch in Wauwatosa, Wi. Ray Smith (dead three years later @ the age of 29) played, and as I sat downstairs listening to the organ, I heard first the St. Anne P&F by JSB and was astounded at this music which I had never before heard. Sometime during the concert Ray also played the Purvis Greensleaves. The program notes spoke of the hearing the plodding camels from the east in the pedal and the sound of the great dopplefloete telling of the coming of the wise men from the orient. For the first time in my life, I heard both the camels and the wise men. This past Christmas, I played that piece on the wonderful instrument in Shryock Audiotrium, during a civic Christmas concert at Southern Illinois University. As I was playing, it came to me that this piece is the reason that 40 years later, I still love playing.   The Little Bells was dedicated to Sister Carola, a sister of the Congregation of St. Agnes. She served as an organist at the same church after Ray had died and when I was first playing for services there. Probably 1961 or thereabouts. She had studied with Purvis and was pretty adventurous for a nun back then. She was very proud of Purvis' dedication of that work to her, and she spoke very fondly of her studies with him.   Lots years ago, and this old grampa thought he'd share the story.   Good choices.   JC Moore    
(back) Subject: Re: organ bloopers From: "John M. Doney" <jdoney@email.msn.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:19:14 -0000   I was giving a recital at a college in Massachusetts. The day of the program I had about 2 hours of practice and as the people came in I took a break, leaving the organ on as well as the music rack and pedal lights. They were going to move the console front and center during the break.   At the appointed hour I was duly introduced, made comments about the first piece, sat down and hand pulled the stops for the first piece. Since the first chord was a solid and loud chord, I whacked down on it only to find that someone had turned the power off. Guess it was kind of an icebreaker but rather face reddening.   JOHN          
(back) Subject: RE: favorite organ pieces From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:25:27 -0400 (EDT)   Here are some of my favorites: (1) Liturgical Improvisation I (my soul hath a desire and longing...) George Oldroyd (2) Prelude & Fugue in b-minor JS Bach (3) Prelude & Fugue in C - Buxtehude (4) A Solemn Melody - Walford-Davies (5) Three Chorales - Franck (6) Art of the Fugue Bach (7) Prelude & Fugue in G Bach (8) Prelude & Fugue on Alain Durufle (9) Carillon Sowerby (10) Sonata in D Guilmant (11) Priere (Suite Gothique) Boellmann (12) Sonata on the 94th Psalm Reubke (13) Elegy Thalben-Ball   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   If a dog will not come to you after he has looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience. --Woodrow Wilson    
(back) Subject: 1871 Hook & Hastings From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:31:55 -0400 (EDT)   Calhoun, Please don't forget to post the program and specification for this!   Thanque!   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   If a dog will not come to you after he has looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience. --Woodrow Wilson    
(back) Subject: Re: organ bloopers From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:07:18 -0400 (EDT)   funny, John!! My blooper is: During a tour of my Glee Club in college, we sang at a large church in Brunswick, Ga., where I had set up the organ for the Jane Marshall "My Eternal King". Well, I guess I hadn't pushed the cresc pedal off far enough. During a sweet, meditative prayer just before that song, I quietly made my way to the organ and stepped on pedals as usual in prep to sit. Needless to say, the Lord spoke VOLUMES during that prayer. Every eye knew where to look, every mouth had a grin. My face was as red as their carpet. I haven't done it since!! --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: organ bloopers From: "John M. Doney" <jdoney@email.msn.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:10:00 -0000   Was it Ogden Nash who wrote: "They laughed when I sat down to play, Someone had taken the bench away."        
(back) Subject: Re: organ bloopers From: Posthorn8@aol.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:45:17 EDT   Hi list,   I really am enjoying this thread. Here is my story. (Be afraid, be very afraid.) Years ago I subbed at a large Presbyterian church the Sunday after Christmas. They had just installed a large 3 manual Holtcamp. The service went along without a hitch until just after the soloist sang her number. The solo was followed by the Pastoral prayer.   During the prayer I set a full organ for "O Come All Ye Faithful." I then took the soloist's music off the music desk and handed it back to her. On the way back to my lap, my knuckles hit the great manual sending the middle C, C#, D, D#, and E EnChamades down the nave like greased lightning. You would have thought I had awakened the dead!! Just as the sound started to die away a little old lady somewhere in the church let out a "Holy Shit"! The Pastor paused for just a moment, then continued as if nothing had happened. I was never asked back there again. I also wait till just before the hymn to hit a piston.   Tim    
(back) Subject: Looking for a Hammond light bulb! From: "gregory@mke.earthreach.com" <gregory@mke.earthreach.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 99 21:52:41 -0500   Dear Folks:   I have a strange request hoping someone on the list can help me with.   Last year the children of a dear elderly lady gave my school a Hammond Spinet organ (1960's vintage.) All worked fine, including the many "special effects" until this year when the swell pedal decided to nonfunction.   Calling the local ex-Hammond dealer suggested that I check the little lightbulb which is attached to the swell pedal. Sure enough, it was burned out!   This bulb, which looks something like an overgrown minature Christmas tree light, is very difficult to replace. I have found one source, but they wish me to purchase 10 or 12 bulbs!   Is there anyone on the list that may have just one of these little bulbs available for purchase?   Thanks in advance.   Tom Gregory First Baptist Church Waukesha WI USA   p.s. Yes, even I, who has the honor of playing an E.M. Skinner and a Mustel Harmonium, has a blast playing the Hammond....especially when the Leslies are rotating full speed! The skaters waltz never sounded so well!      
(back) Subject: New Member From: "Constantine Vournazos" <Vourncc@99main.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:47:52 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=_NextPart_000_00C1_01BE8EA4.7C9876E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   I recently joined this list and am very impressed with all of your = talent. I started playing the organ about 30 years ago. The only organ = that was available to my parents was an old Estey reed pump organ. My = parents tell me that I would practice on that thing for hours trying to = learn our church choir music. Our church could not find an organist so I = volunteered to play until they could find one - they never did. So for = the last 30 years, I have been trying to play for that church and = several other churches that I have attended.=20   You people are fortunate to be given such a wonderful gift. While I find = playing enjoyable for myself, I also find it very stressful in = performing for others. I never learned to play classical music - = although my favorite piece is Bach's G minor Fugue "The little Fugue". I = practiced that piece for 3 years and could only get through the first 3 = pages! Maybe someday.   Nice to meet you all.   If any one knows of a pipe organ for sale in the Northeast, please let = me know. Those instruments fascinate me and I would like to upgrade my = old electronic Hammond for a "Real" Organ.=20   Dean Vournazos=20   ------=_NextPart_000_00C1_01BE8EA4.7C9876E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2014.210" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I recently joined this list and am very = impressed with all=20 of your talent. I started playing the organ about 30 years ago. The only = organ=20 that was available to my parents was an old Estey reed pump organ. My = parents=20 tell me that I would practice on that thing for hours trying to learn = our church=20 choir music.&nbsp;Our church could not find an organist so I volunteered = to play=20 until they could find one - they never did. So for the last 30 years, I = have=20 been trying to play for that church and several other&nbsp;churches that = I have=20 attended. </FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>You people are fortunate to be given such a = wonderful=20 gift. While I find playing enjoyable for myself, I also find it very = stressful=20 in performing for others. I never learned to play classical music - = although my=20 favorite piece is Bach's G minor Fugue "The little Fugue". I practiced = that=20 piece for 3 years and could only get through the first 3 pages! Maybe=20 someday.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Nice to meet you all.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>&nbsp;If any one knows of a pipe organ for sale = in the=20 Northeast, please let me know. Those instruments fascinate me and I = would like=20 to upgrade my old electronic Hammond for a "Real" Organ. </FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Dean Vournazos </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=_NextPart_000_00C1_01BE8EA4.7C9876E0--    
(back) Subject: Re: New Member From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:54:25 -0400 (EDT)   Welcome Constantine to the group. Please know you're as much a part of the group as the rest of us. Jump right in. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: organ bloopers From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:35:15 -0500   ....a little old lady somewhere in the church let out with a "Holy Shit!"   Do I hear an Amen???   Rick dutchorgan@svs.net