PipeChat Digest #815 - Wednesday, April 28, 1999
 
Re: Help! Mother's Day Anthems/Solos??!!
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Re: Help! Mother's Day Anthems/Solos??!!
  by "Russell Greene" <russg@cyberspc.mb.ca>
Re: Help! Mother's Day Anthems/Solos??!!
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Arp Schnitger Stamp
  by "Aida van de Brake" <Celeste@cable.A2000.nl>
Re: organ bloopers
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Plane Sawn Caps & Dry Lumber
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
(no subject)
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: Help! Mother's Day Anthems/Solos??!!
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
request.............
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: Help! Mother's Day Anthems/Solos??!!
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: request.............
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
just curious...........
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: just curious...........
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: just curious...........
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
Re: just curious...........
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: just curious...........
  by "Robert Horton" <gemshorn@ukans.edu>
RE: just curious...........
  by "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net>
Re: just curious...........
  by "Frank Johnson" <usd465@hit.net>
Re: just curious...........
  by "Sand Lawn" <sandlawn@prodigy.net>
just curious
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: just curious...........
  by "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com>
the music of Henri Mulet
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: just curious
  by "j nathan" <jnatpat@sunsix.infi.net>
reveries............
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: just curious
  by <p.wilson2@juno.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Help! Mother's Day Anthems/Solos??!! From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:45:53 -0500   bruce cornely wrote: > > >Mother's Day falls on Rogation Sunday this > > year, so I don't have much time, but I'm > > minded to do something for Mother's Day, > Hmmmm! A Mother's Day/Rogation Day combo. How about taking mom out > for a nice big lunch and let her get plowed on margaritas! > hehehe   My wife thinks Mother's Day is "an abomination in the sight of God" so we won't be doing anything for it at St. Mark's. For churches that do keep it, however, since Rogationtide is the time when traditionally we pray for the fertility and fecundity of the earth, why not combine it with Mother's Day and pray for the fertility and fecundity of mothers? Come to think of it, though, some mothers might not be too wild about this.   John Speller, St. Mark's, St. Louis.  
(back) Subject: Re: Help! Mother's Day Anthems/Solos??!! From: "Russell Greene" <russg@cyberspc.mb.ca> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:11:28 -0500   John Speller wrote:   > My wife thinks Mother's Day is "an abomination in the sight of God" so > we won't be doing anything for it at St. Mark's.   ----------   Just curious as to why that is a "cause and effect" statement.   I always find it a pity when we don't take as many opportunities as possible to celebrate so whenever an occasion such as Mother's Day comes around, I try to play festive preludes/postlude and do a special anthem with the choir (on family values and the special role of parenting in this case). Our church gets to celebrate this particular role twice, once in Lent for "Mothering Sunday" which remembers a time when apprentices were given a holiday to visit their mothers during Lent, and again at Hallmark's "Mother's Day".   This year, our Bishop is coming on Mother's Day to confirm a gaggle of youngsters and to dedicate our Memorial Garden. So we're working on three anthems (one outside at the dedication and two for the confirmation) and warming up the State Trumpet.   Brunch after for the whole extended family. Wanna come?   ----------  
(back) Subject: Re: Help! Mother's Day Anthems/Solos??!! From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:33:47 EDT   Perhaps a "hymn based" anthem, such as "For the Beauty of the Earth" by John Rutter, might work with both Rogation and Mothers Day. Also, the "Prelude on DIX in Trio Style" by David M. Lasky, published by H.W. Gray, would serve as a great voluntary.   Good luck!   John A. Gambill, Jr. Organist/Choirmaster Oak Cliff Lutheran Church Dallas, Texas  
(back) Subject: Arp Schnitger Stamp From: Aida van de Brake <Celeste@cable.A2000.nl> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 21:49:54 +0200   Hi,   I made new jpg's of a stamp from 1998 titled "300 JAHRE ARP SCHNITGER ORGEL ST.JACOBI IN HAMBURG" published by the Deusche Bundespost.   Let me know if you want them. I don't charge. Those of you who've had the Franck stamp won't have to order.   Cheers,   Aida.  
(back) Subject: Re: organ bloopers From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:51:27 EDT   I remember, shamefully, the time about 10 years ago when I stood on the pedals and reached over the music rack to grab for some music, which I needed, (during the prayers of the day) and my belly hit one of the general pistons. A most horrific noise ensued and the prayers were interrupted because I was standing on the pedals. Needless to say, I turned about 20 shades of red and made a hasty dash for the car after the service!   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Plane Sawn Caps & Dry Lumber From: RMaryman@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:18:31 EDT   Regarding the caps being problematic with big changes in the relative moisture content, I believe that in MOST cases, the caps are made of kiln-dried hardwood, dried to a very small (about 8%) moisture content. Even under the most severe swings in the relative humidity of the surrounding air, the reaction to the change in humidity is so miniscule that the flue opening (distance to the front edge of the languid of the pipe) does not effectively change, and the cut-up (distance from the flue opening to the upper lip of the front of the pipe) also would not change enough to affect the voicing (movement of the upper lip >might< amount to .001 to .002 of an inch in a 4' long pipe).   As far as coatings (finishes) goes, the most common finish - Orange Shellac - is porous enough to let a tiny amount of ambient moisture thru the finish, with varnish more impervious, and water-based polyurethane (after curing, of course) the most effective sealer in terms of moisture migration. Again, tho, using woods that are properly kiln-dried to about 6 to 8 percent, and proper gluing technique with yellow(white) glue (or even hot hyde glue if you are really adventureous) will result in a joint that will outlast the surrounding wood (unless that is you immerse the joint in hot water far a long while).   hope this helps.   If you want more info, get the AIO tape by John Boody lecturing on wood in organbuilding. John is >>VERY<< knowlegeable aoubt wood and wooden pipemaking, and sawmilling and drying, and other things related to wood uses in organbuilding.   Rick M Staunton VA  
(back) Subject: From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:41:58 EDT     Hey gang,   I lost my address book. Can the members who have e-mailed me privately, please send me a message so I can get the addresses? Thanks.   Carlo   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Help! Mother's Day Anthems/Solos??!! From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:32:03 -0500   Russell Greene wrote: > > John Speller wrote: > > > My wife thinks Mother's Day is "an abomination in the sight of God" so > > we won't be doing anything for it at St. Mark's.   Well, in our church my wife is the Rector. I guess I should have mentioned it. Our > church gets to celebrate this particular role twice, once in Lent for > "Mothering Sunday" which remembers a time when apprentices were given a > holiday to visit their mothers during Lent, and again at Hallmark's > "Mother's Day".   I would say there was more justification for celebrating the English "Mothering Sunday" than the American "Mother's Day." "Mothering Sunday" has a rationale in being close to Lady Day (March 25, the Feast of the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin Mary) and is therefore linked with Mary the Mother of Jesus. "Mother's Day" is just a way of increasing the assets of Hallmark shareholders, and while there is nothing wrong with that in itself I do not see any particular reason for churches to support it.   John.  
(back) Subject: request............. From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:12:13 EDT   Hey gang,   anyone out there have the toccata on "How Firm A Foundation" by Claude Murphee? I contacted CPP Belwin (which is now owned by Warner Music) and it's been out of print for a while now.   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Help! Mother's Day Anthems/Solos??!! From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:31:19 -0700       John L. Speller wrote:   > Russell Greene wrote: > > > > John Speller wrote: > > > > > My wife thinks Mother's Day is "an abomination in the sight of God" so > > > we won't be doing anything for it at St. Mark's.   Pretty strong language there, for a harmless nod to the most hard-working group of people in the Universe (grin).   > Well, in our church my wife is the Rector. I guess I should have > mentioned it.   > Our > > church gets to celebrate this particular role twice, once in Lent for > > "Mothering Sunday" which remembers a time when apprentices were given a > > holiday to visit their mothers during Lent, and again at Hallmark's > > "Mother's Day". > > I would say there was more justification for celebrating the English > "Mothering Sunday" than the American "Mother's Day." "Mothering Sunday" > has a rationale in being close to Lady Day (March 25, the Feast of the > Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin Mary) and is therefore linked with > Mary the Mother of Jesus.   Actually, it got its name from the Epistle for Laetare Sunday in the old lectionary ... "Jerusalem on high, which is the mother of us all". We play cheerful music and sing all the Jerusalem hymns in the back of the 1940.   > "Mother's Day" is just a way of increasing > the assets of Hallmark shareholders, and while there is nothing wrong > with that in itself I do not see any particular reason for churches to > support it.   Other than supporting families, and mothers ... as long as they do Fathers' Day too.   Every once in awhile, E.Y.R.'s basic sexism slips out ... last Sunday he announced that Mrs. X had given birth to a baby (no mention of Mr. X); after early Mass, I was helping the ladies set up coffee hour and told them about it .... now, these are veddy proper Anglican ladies in their seventies ... they hooted and hollered ... "HOPEFULLY MR. X had SOMETHING to do with it!"   Cheers,   Bud   > > > John. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: request............. From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:47:40 -0400 (EDT)   Carlo, I have a copy of it somewhere, but I am in the midst of changing church positions and my music is in boxes (in no particular order). I would suggest you contact someone at the University of Florida - Gainesville, music library, since CM was University Organist (I believe) for a long time, and until his death in the early 50's. The library should have a copy. If not, you might try Willis Bodine, who suceeded CM, and is University Organist and Carilloneur. But I would try the library first. The University does have a website which should be easily searched out.   I will be on the look-out for T/HFAF in the event it should inadvertently "float to the top." Please let me know how things go at the UF site. Thanks.   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   If a dog will not come to you after he has looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience. --Woodrow Wilson    
(back) Subject: just curious........... From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 23:29:13 EDT   Hey all,   I'm a little curious as to how many of you are church organists, concert organists, choir directors or organ enthusiasts. Also, out of the organists, what type of instruments do you have in your home to practice on?   Carlo   P.S. I have a Rodgers 960 (3-manual)       ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: just curious........... From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 23:31:17 -0400 (EDT)   I am A, B, and C. Church organist, concert organist, and choral director. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: just curious........... From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:31:38 -0700     > I'm a little curious as to how many of you are church >organists, concert organists, choir directors or organ enthusiasts. Also, >out of the organists, what type of instruments do you have in your home to >practice on? > >Carlo > >P.S. I have a Rodgers 960 (3-manual) > > > I am organist in a Christian Science church that has Rodgers 955 3-manual and I also represent Johannus organs in northern California. I have a 3-manual Rembrandt 3000 (custom) organ in my home which you can see a photo and stop list for on my web site, <http://www.johannus-norcal.com>, click on the "Rembrandt 3000" tab.   Jason  
(back) Subject: Re: just curious........... From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 23:35:41 -0400 (EDT)   >I'm a little curious as to how many of you are > church organists, concert organists, choir > directors or organ enthusiasts. Well, I'm a church organist who enjoys playing recitals, but I don't consider myself a "concert organist." I direct the choir in my present position, and I suppose could be considered an "enthusiast" since I'm very interested in building and restoration, have dabbled, but not done it professionally.   >Also, out of the organists, what type of > instruments do you have in your home to > practice on? I have one Open Diapason 8 rank leaning against the wall in my living room, patiently awaiting a windchest, keyboard and, heh heh, wind! Can't say I get much practicing done on it, though. ;<)   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   If a dog will not come to you after he has looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience. --Woodrow Wilson    
(back) Subject: Re: just curious........... From: Robert Horton <gemshorn@ukans.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:56:25 -0600   > I'm a little curious as to how many of you are church >organists, concert >organists, choir directors or organ enthusiasts. I'm a graduate student in organ performance at the University of Kansas. My main interests are pedagogy, performance, and composition/transcription. However, I thouroughly enjoy conducting choirs, organ maintenance, and service playing (given the right kind of service!). So I suppose the answer to your question is "all of the above".   >Also, out of the organists, what type of instruments do you have in your >home to >practice on? OK, don't laugh... I could try to pass it off as a "one-manual digital instrument", but I'll just be honest and tell you it's a 61-note Yamaha keyboard. It's only real use is as a MIDI entry keyboard, though I occasionally use it to learn some fingerings. I do all of my practicing at the Bales Organ Recital Hall (my second home) on the 3-manual Wolff organ and the 2-manual Jaeckel practice organ.   Rob http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~gemshorn/      
(back) Subject: RE: just curious........... From: "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 21:01:42 -0700   > I'm a little curious as to how many of you are > church organists, concert organists, choir directors or organ > enthusiasts. Also, out of the organists, what type of instruments > do you have in your home to practice on?   I am a church organist and choir director, also an enthusiast. We have an AOB Classical and Rodgers 33e Theatre organ at home. You can see them both at http://members.xoom.com/dgoward/. I am also the Britson Organworks dealer for Arizona and northern New Mexico (http://www.desertsounds.com)   Dennis Goward    
(back) Subject: Re: just curious........... From: Frank Johnson <usd465@hit.net> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 23:08:41 -0600   >Hey all, > > I'm a little curious as to how many of you are church >organists, concert organists, choir directors or organ enthusiasts. Also, >out of the organists, what type of instruments do you have in your home to >practice on? > >Carlo > >P.S. I have a Rodgers 960 (3-manual) > I have a Hammond b3   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader http://www.hit.net/~usd465/ 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156      
(back) Subject: Re: just curious........... From: "Sand Lawn" <sandlawn@prodigy.net> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 23:23:02 -0700   I am a church organist... after a 25 year career as a theatre musician, vocal coach/conducter. Realize this is what I really wanted to do all my life... just got side tracked. I have to go to the church to practice.. a 2/15 Moller tracker... but have have access to several large EP instruments when I REALLY want to have access to celestes, horizontal reeds, 32's, etc.          
(back) Subject: just curious From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 23:30:32 -0500   Well, let's see... I'm a theatre organist, part-time church organist, organ tuner, have my own business restoring pipe organs and player pianos, and am slowly going whacky repairing old clocks. At home, I have a Jesse French upright with a Simplex player, a 114-pipe Dutch street organ in the making, and enough cuckoo clocks to drive my cat and dog crazy. I have access anytime to a 2/9 WurliTzer TO, and a Wicks 2/4 church organ- both installed within the last few years.   Rick dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net Cuckoo clocks make great wedding gifts      
(back) Subject: Re: just curious........... From: "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:40:06 -0400   Hi Carlo,   Interesting question.....I am (1) church organist, (2) concert organist, (3) former choir director, & (4) organ enthusiast (produce and host a weekly organ radio program plus one on choral music). For 25 years I played a four-manual 1967 Moeller and a two-manual Schlicker at a Cathedral. Now, I am organist at a Christian Scientist Church in Syracuse, New York, with a 1927 three-manual E. M. Skinner, Opus #669, with 35 ranks. Who needs an organ at home with a Skinner at one's place of employ -- a joy to play!   Bonnie Beth Derby Producer & Host ``Orgelwerke'' & ``Choral Traditions'' WCNY-FM, 91.3; Syracuse; WUNY-FM, 89.5, Utica; WJNY-FM, 90.9, Watertown Organist, First Church of Christ, Scientist, Syracuse orge@dreamscape.com     > > I'm a little curious as to how many of you are church organists, concert organists, choir directors or organ enthusiasts. Also, out of the organists, what type of instruments do you have in your home to practice on? > > Carlo > > P.S. I have a Rodgers 960 (3-manual) > >    
(back) Subject: the music of Henri Mulet From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:39:41 EDT     Hey all,   d go   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: just curious From: j nathan <jnatpat@sunsix.infi.net> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 23:47:17 -0500   Howdy... I am a church organist/choirmaster for St. Peter's of the Lakes Episcopal and organist/asst choirmaster for First United Methodist Church in Benton Kentucky. Makes for an interesting Sunday morning....to say the least!   Cheers... J Nathan Patton  
(back) Subject: reveries............ From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 01:18:11 EDT   hey all,   u kind people, I may very well find out the answer to this question.   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: just curious From: p.wilson2@juno.com Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 03:26:41 EDT     On Tue, 27 Apr 1999 23:30:32 -0500 "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> writes: >Well, let's see... I'm a theatre organist, part-time church >organist, >organ tuner, have my own business restoring pipe organs and player >pianos, and am slowly going whacky repairing old clocks. At home, I >have a >Jesse French upright with a Simplex player, a 114-pipe Dutch street >organ in >the making, and enough cuckoo clocks to drive my cat and dog crazy. >I have access anytime to a 2/9 WurliTzer TO, and a Wicks 2/4 church >organ- >both installed within the last few years. > >Rick dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net >Cuckoo clocks make >great wedding gifts > You sound like my kind of guy!   When I was in high school, I earned extra money repairing clocks for a neighbor who owned an antique shop. Since I wasn't considered to be the most mechanically apt person in the world, my parents were amazed at my success. They had no idea how much I'd read on the subject! I even got fairly adept at repairing 400-day clocks.   Unfortunately, I never got around to learning to play the organ, but have been fascinated with them just the same. I've always dreamed of owning one - why, I don't know. Maybe that would be the incentive I need to take lessons!   Shalom, Preston Wilson p.wilson2@juno.com   ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]