PipeChat Digest #1012 - Monday, August 2, 1999
 
Re: Website for OHS
  by <Icorgan@aol.com>
Re: Repertoire/Theme Ideas For Shrine Kilgen CD
  by <dougcampbell@juno.com>
"Loud" vs "rough voiced"
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Repertoire/Theme Ideas For Shrine Kilgen CD
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Last night I lay a-sleeping...
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Jason Comet's "input please"
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Re: Last night I lay a-sleeping...
  by "Tom Jones" <tomj@netpath.net>
Re: Last night I lay a-sleeping...
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Repertoire/Theme Ideas For Shrine Kilgen CD
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
A "will-they-never-listen" wedding!!
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
FYI: Organist wanted: Philly suburb
  by "Pat Maimone" <patmai@juno.com>
Re: "Loud" vs "rough voiced"
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Need a new pastor???
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Re: A "will-they-never-listen" wedding!!
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Midi-sequencer idea
  by "Frank W. Breazeale" <fbreazeale@carol.net>
Re: Midi-sequencer idea
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
7/31/99 unbelievable concert
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Edelweiss Church
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: input please
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Website for OHS From: Icorgan@aol.com Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 08:20:54 EDT   Scott, The site is: http://www.organsociety.org/ Maynard  
(back) Subject: Re: Repertoire/Theme Ideas For Shrine Kilgen CD From: dougcampbell@juno.com Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:38:02 -0400       On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 22:20:49 EDT ScottFop@aol.com writes: >Hello all > >I am curious if some of you might have repertoire and or thematic >ideas for >upcoming compact disc recordings of the Grande Kilgen in the National >Shrine >of the Little Flower. Please feel free to get detailed >if you >wish. > >Thanks so much in advance!!!!!! > >Scott F. Foppiano, Director of Music and Liturgical Coordination >National Shrine of the Little Flower, Royal Oak, MI > Scott,   How about a good "Wedding Music" recording - WITHOUT "Here Comes" and "There Goes"...   "Jesu, Joy" and other prelude music   Clarke: Trumpet Voluntary Purcell: Trumpet Tune Cocker: Tuba Tune David Johnson: Trumpet tunes Marcello" Palsm 19"   etc.     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY     ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.  
(back) Subject: "Loud" vs "rough voiced" From: KriderSM@aol.com Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 15:15:41 EDT   Many Wurlitzers were originally installed in their theatre homes and NEVER =   tonally voiced. I wonder if this could account for the fact that many classical and church organists did not like the Wurlitzer sound. Unvoiced ranks could sound too unrefined for them. To the untrained ear (many = theatre goers) the unregulated theatre organ therefore sounded more burlesque and raspy. Perhaps these unvoiced instruments became the "standard" sound that =   many equate as the "perfect theatre sound."   Stan Krider     Shawn Burgess-Keith informed us of an organ he had just installed: >The tonal finishing >hadn't yet been completed, but they were allowed to use the instrument = for >their services, on the understanding that it wasn't done yet.   >When we did the tonal finishing, we didn't change the volume of the stops = in >question, but simply refined the sound through careful voicing and >regulating. In fact, at least a couple of the stops were "goosed" a = little >bit. When all was said and done, the congregant was pleased that it = wasn't >so loud any more, and that it sounded good.   What the congregant was actually hearing that made it seem loud to him was the fizzing and scraping of pipes that have only been rough-voiced, and = his ear associated the displeasure of the stop with being loud. He didn't like it, therefore it was loud. Obviously, if we had been talking about a Dulciana, this probably wouldn't have been the case. I thought it was interesting, and for me, it was a learning experience.   Shawn B-K  
(back) Subject: Repertoire/Theme Ideas For Shrine Kilgen CD From: KriderSM@aol.com Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 15:26:55 EDT   A local Columbus, Ohio, composer, John Carter, has transcribed dozens of = late 18th century hymns for choir. He adds interesting harmonic twists, accompaniment and vocal, to these mainly Protestant favorites.   His works are available at most religious music stores. Scranton's Music = in Columbus carries them.   I believe that a CD of his music using the Grande Kilgen to back a choir would sound most impressive.   Also, many of his works would also stand alone, using the solo voices of = the Kilgen instead of a choir.   Stan Krider   Scott F. Foppiano requested that: >... if some of you might have repertoire and or thematic ideas for >upcoming compact disc recordings of the Grande Kilgen in the National = Shrine >of the Little Flower. Several artists have expressed an interest in >performing and recording the instrument, and the administration of course =   >expects me as the principle organist on staff to do recordings as well.      
(back) Subject: Last night I lay a-sleeping... From: KriderSM@aol.com Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 15:40:32 EDT   A bit "keyed" up before retiring, are we?   Stan Krider   ray ahrens response to this: >>Got to watch eating spicy food late at night! was: >Stick with "organ"-ically grown fruits and vegetables.  
(back) Subject: Jason Comet's "input please" From: KriderSM@aol.com Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 15:40:30 EDT   Jason, With very minor exceptions, you wrote a very politely restrained and professional response to this anonymous critic. I am also impressed that a =   young person is able to produce such a mature response to one who = questions his professional judgements.   I trust you kept a copy in your files for reference.   You resisted the temptation to include out of control emotional comments. That alone underscored that you, not the critic, were the one in control = of the situation.   Thanks for shariung that one with us.   Stan Krider   Jason D. Comet commented:   >That Monday, I got a letter in my mailbox again and they asked why I did = all that cutting out. I simply >replyed: (I will not print the entirety of his letter)  
(back) Subject: Re: Last night I lay a-sleeping... From: "Tom Jones" <tomj@netpath.net> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 15:43:11 -0400   > Tom, > > Did you go out to a pub and leave your drink unattended for a few = minutes   > that night? > > John > Nope; no drink of mine has ever been left unattended!   Tom  
(back) Subject: Re: Last night I lay a-sleeping... From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 15:54:43 EDT   In a message dated 8/1/99 2:48:35 PM Central Daylight Time, = tomj@netpath.net writes:   << Nope; no drink of mine has ever been left unattended! >>   Glad to hear it... that would be alcohol abuse :-)   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Repertoire/Theme Ideas For Shrine Kilgen CD From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:42:41 -0400 (EDT)   >How about a good "Wedding Music" recording > - WITHOUT "Here Comes" and "There > Goes"... >"Jesu, Joy" and other prelude music >Clarke: Trumpet Voluntary >Purcell: Trumpet Tune >Cocker: Tuba Tune >David Johnson: Trumpet tunes >Marcello" Palsm 19" and lest we fergit.... "On Eagle's Wings" "Be Not Afraid" "Panis Angelicus" and the "song of the little Jewish girl" *   ..   ..   ..   ..   ..   ..   ..   ..   ..   * Oy vey, Maria! hehehehe   Bruce & the Baskerbeagles ~~+~~+~~ rohrschok8@webtv.net ~~+~~+~~   I love a dog. =A0 He does nothing for political reasons. =A0 -- Will Rogers    
(back) Subject: A "will-they-never-listen" wedding!! From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:54:38 -0400 (EDT)   Yesterday I played a wedding with, count 'em, TEN bridesmaids who precessed in to the TacoBell Cannon. The bride wanted Trumpet Involuntary. I asked her to consider everyone entering on the same piece since it gave more unity to the processional and also lessened the chance that something would go wrong "cue-wise". Nah!   Anyway, we had a trumpeteer for the volntry, who also played some prelude and the exit procession and postlude. As I was playing the Pachelbel I watched in my mirror as the blue-dressed maids entered, not being able to devote all of my attention to the mirror I didn't bother to count, but was relying on the cue of seeing the bride in the doorway as the "ready" sign for her. I looked in my mirror (almost to the end of the Canon!) and saw her standing in the doorway, so ended the Canon, changed music on the rack, and motioned for the trumpet guy to stand. He came over to the console and said, "there are still two more bridesmaids." "Eeek," thinks I, and reverts to the Canon. They entered and we continued after the one silent maidal entry!   The good part was the recessional. I questioned the fast tempo of the "eel" piece (ya know, the Moret MP Theatre theme), and the trumpet guy said, "Oh yeah, always that fast." OK says I (being the nice cooperative thing what I am), but he did'nt realize the processional had to be played until the grandparents were out--we Rhondo'd five times (such a loverly shade of crimbson he wuz!); then we played the Charpontier TaDumm, but when we got to the end he quit and started packing up his horn, leaving me with another ten minutes of postlude to improvise while the congregation ambled toward the West Porch. Whatta hoot!   Weddings are so much easier without non-organist musicians or soloists! ;-)   Bruce & the Baskerbeagles ~~+~~+~~ rohrschok8@webtv.net ~~+~~+~~   I love a dog. =A0 He does nothing for political reasons. =A0 -- Will Rogers    
(back) Subject: FYI: Organist wanted: Philly suburb From: Pat Maimone <patmai@juno.com> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:54:49 -0400   Greetings to all on another hot summer day in the northeast... This position was on the Choral List today with a request to forward. I have no other details. Pat Maimone   Organist wanted for American Baptist Church in Wayne, PA, outside Philadelphia   One Sunday service, accompany Thursday evening rehearsal with accomplished adult choir plus Sunday AM chidren's choir rehearsal   Applicants must be comfortable with a wide range of musical styles & accompaniments on organ, piano or synthesizer, as well as with a dynamic and progressive worship atmosphere.   Salary negotiable.   Send resume & 2 references to: Search Committee, Central Baptist Church, PO Box 309, Wayne, PA 19087-0309.   Inquiries: 610-688-0664 or e-mail <cbc@mailin.icdc.com>   (If anyone is also on any church music or organ mailing lists, I'd be much obliged if this notice could be forwarded to those lists as well--MTIA!)   Robert Ross, Artistic Director Voces Novae et Antiquae Philadelphia, PA   Music Director, Central Baptist Church Wayne, PA RobertamR@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------   ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.  
(back) Subject: Re: "Loud" vs "rough voiced" From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 18:09:20 -0400 (EDT)     >Many Wurlitzers were originally installed in > their theatre homes and NEVER tonally > voiced. I wonder if this could account for the > fact that many classical and church organists > did not like the Wurlitzer sound. Unvoiced > ranks could sound too unrefined for them. But on the other hand, is careful finishing going to make a whole bunch o' difference on 8 to 10 inches of wind!! Being one who likes TO as well as classical, I think the two are so different that it's just a matter of taste and preference and realistically cannot compare them. It's like comparing steak and ice cream! Both are wonderful, but I seldom eat steak a la mode! ;-)   Bruce & the Baskerbeagles ~~+~~+~~ rohrschok8@webtv.net ~~+~~+~~   I love a dog. =A0 He does nothing for political reasons. =A0 -- Will Rogers    
(back) Subject: Need a new pastor??? From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 18:27:55 -0400 (EDT)   A friend sent this to me. I guess it's our response to being replaced by MIDI!! ;-) =A0 Hi, thought you'd like this: CARDBOARD FABRICATIONS LTD - Faith & Thought Dept. Dear Sirs, We are sure you have come across our extremely successful products. We make cardboard police cars to discourage speeding and cardboard security men to deter shoplifters and other standard lines. Following the success of these, we are pleased to announce the introduction of our latest line in cardboard clergy.   MARK 1 - The cardboard Parish Priest is invaluable to the hard pressed clergy who need a holiday. It is life-sized, made to measure and comes in traditional (pre-Vat 2), progressive and middle-of -the-road models. It is especially effective when stood in the pulpit or at the lectern. Field trials have shown that when the cardboard PP is installed without the congregation knowing, 40% of those later questioned had noticed no difference, while 25% thought there had been a considerable improvement. The rest said they had slept through the homily as usual.=A0 (Advanced models, are being developed - the mark 1.1 for use on the occasion of episcopal visitation and mark 1.2=A0 for installation in time for Clergy Appraisal)   MARK 2 - the cardboard bishop will be available soon. It can be placed anywhere in a diocese while the real bishop is away in Rome or elsewhere at a Meeting or just on holiday. Trial models have been installed here and there for some time with great success, so much so that in one case, when the real bishop returned unexpectedly, there were rumours he had developed powers of bilocation.   Work on the cardboard canon and monsignor models has been abandoned since market research demonstrated that no one actually wanted the real thing, so there would be little demand for a cardboard substitute. However, our cardboard congregation is another matter and is now selling well in view of the falling Mass attendance. Its response to homilies is indistinguishable from the real thing and it has the positive advantage that when volunteers are asked for, nobody makes a dash for the door. In some churches there has been a marked improvement in the singing. We commend our quality products for your consideration and hope we can be of assistance to you and your parish.   Bruce & the Baskerbeagles ~~+~~+~~ rohrschok8@webtv.net ~~+~~+~~   I love a dog. =A0 He does nothing for political reasons. =A0 -- Will Rogers    
(back) Subject: Re: A "will-they-never-listen" wedding!! From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 19:08:11 EDT   In a message dated 8/1/99 4:56:28 PM Central Daylight Time, rohrschok8@webtv.net writes:   << Weddings are so much easier without non-organist musicians or soloists! ;-) >>   True!   John  
(back) Subject: Midi-sequencer idea From: "Frank W. Breazeale" <fbreazeale@carol.net> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 21:38:44 -0400   For the prelude today I played "Jesus, Priceless Treasure" from a collection of 15 CP by A. W. Leupold published by Augsburg (Liturgical Chorale Book). I sequenced the accomp. and pedal on a "nylon-string guitar" patch and played the C. F. using a Cornet.   Frank W. Breazeale Organist FBC Pendleton, S. C.    
(back) Subject: Re: Midi-sequencer idea From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 21:45:49 -0400 (EDT)     >For the prelude today I played "Jesus, > Priceless Treasure" from a collection of 15 CP > by A. W. Leupold published by Augsburg > (Liturgical Chorale Book). I sequenced the > accomp. and pedal on a "nylon-string guitar" > patch and played the C. F. using a Cornet. Good idea! That would help keep you awake!! ;-) hehehehe   President Society for the Prevention of Chorale Preludezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz   Bruce & the Baskerbeagles ~~+~~+~~ rohrschok8@webtv.net ~~+~~+~~   I love a dog. =A0 He does nothing for political reasons. =A0 -- Will Rogers    
(back) Subject: 7/31/99 unbelievable concert From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 23:07:03 -0400 (EDT)   Dear Friends: Just a note to report that Felix Hell, 13-year-old prodigy from Germany, performed a 2-hour concert at First United Meth Church of Toms River, NJ, USA. It was a magical evening, w/ nearly 200 persons attending. For the 1st time in our church, we used a video projector and screen to make it possible for the audience to see the console during the performance. We borrowed the projector and camera--they worked beautifully. Our organ is in the chancel, but is hidden by a rail. The projector enabled everyone to see not only the manuals, but the pedalboard too. It made all the difference in the world--suddenly they could see the music happening as well as hearing it (if you know what I mean). Now for Master Hell. I'm hear to tell ya, I've rarely heard such consistently beautiful playing in adults. His technique and musicianship are truly unbelievable. He began the concert w/ the Prelude in G by Bach. Unfortunately, I did not bring the program home (I'll try to remember to do so later in the week). Thru the course of the concert, we heard Buxtehude, the F-major sonata by Mendelssohn, a beautiful chorale prelude by Rheinberger (seems like it was Abendlied), the Franck Chorale in A minor--the best I've EVER heard it, plus some other Bach things. His encore was a trumpet ditty by C S Lang. I was especially thrilled by his registrations. In the right hands, our organ really has so much variety and color (even for a mere 24 ranks). His settings were delightful, w/ always a sense of restraint. His father served as his assistant/page turner. Felix had no program notes, and did not talk to the audience. But you know what? Notes weren't really needed. He communicated so beautifully thru the music. A word about the audience. In addition to our usual faithful ones, we had 3 AGOers (ref previous posts), several children, my organ student was there, and several folks from our informal service (which really surprised and delighted me). Felix Hell will attend the Juilliard School beginning in September. He has been awarded a full scholarship. Next year, he will study with John Weaver at Curtis in Phila. Master Hell is one of those truly gifted young persons that come along every now and again. And what a joy to be around--very pleasant, very gracious, and oh so incredibly musical. I could go on and on, but won't. Have a great week. --Neil Brown, Minister of Music/Organist First United Meth Church, Toms River, NJ USA    
(back) Subject: Edelweiss Church From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 23:16:02 -0400 (EDT)   Our local AGO dean recently toured Europe and got to attend a 7 a.m. service at the "Edelweiss" monastery church in Switzerland (exact name escapes me now). Before the service began, in fact before prelude (or it could have been the prelude), he says that snippets of tunes, phrases only, were played. They didn't seem to relate to each other and it was something he had never heard done before. His word was: disjunct. From his story, it sounds as though it was NOT tuning. Nor does he say that the snippets were heard later in the service. He did say, that once the organist really started playing, that it was absolutely heavenly. It's reported that this organ is the 6th largest in the world. Does any1 know if this is some sort of normal practice or procedure, either for THIS church or for Swiss/European churches in general? Any clues as to what happened? Thanks, --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: input please From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 23:30:25 -0400 (EDT)   John, John, John, your joke was so funny and just what I needed tonight. Thanks. --Neil