PipeChat Digest #1023 - Tuesday, August 10, 1999
 
Re: pipe organ popularity
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Re: Top Ten Retitled Hymns
  by "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net>
PipeChat IRC tonight at 9.00pm Eastern Time
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@post.queensu.ca>
Re: Repertoire/Theme Ideas For Shrine Kilgen CD
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: fixing damaged pipes X-post
  by <Icorgan@aol.com>
Re: Christmas Choir/organ repertoire
  by <Icorgan@aol.com>
Digital Cameras
  by <steve@open-tech.com>
Re: fixing damaged pipes X-post
  by <ORGANUT@aol.com>
Coffer contributations of parents of bratty kids (Was: Fixing Damaged pip
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpncorn@davesworld.net>
Re: Coffer contributations of parents of bratty kids (Was: Fixing	 Damage
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
Re: Christmas Choir/organ repertoire
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Coffer contributations of parents of bratty kids (Was:Fixing 	Damaged
  by <JDeCaria@aol.com>
Coffer contributations of parents of bratty kids
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
names of flowers in their titles
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Re: names of flowers in their titles
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
pipechat@pipechat.org
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Shrine Kilgen Clarinet
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: pipechat@pipechat.org
  by "ray ahrens" <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com>
tracker action pedal units
  by "ray ahrens" <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: pipe organ popularity From: Noel Stoutenburg <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 04:01:50 -0500       Stan, quoting from the front of the Bulletin/Service leaflet from Church = of the Incarnation, Dallas, Texas:   "If you are a visitor among us, please know that we are truly pleased that you have chosen to share this Sunday with us. We invite you to join us as we worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness, and we ask you to = make yourself known to us after the service so that we may greet you in a more personal way."    
(back) Subject: Re: Top Ten Retitled Hymns From: Paul Opel <popel@sover.net> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 06:51:00 -0400     "Sit down, sit down for Christ's sake, the people in the back can't see"   Paul   http://www.sover.net/~popel      
(back) Subject: PipeChat IRC tonight at 9.00pm Eastern Time From: Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 07:46:25 -0400   To all members of the Pipechat List:   Join the IRC Pipechatters on Monday and Friday evenings, at 9.00 pm Eastern Time.   If you are not too sure how you do it go to our Web Page at the following = URL:   http://www.pipechat.org   We have provided all the necessary information there for you to see how to get on to the IRC.   We hope to see you this evening! Everybody welcome!   Bob Conway ...      
(back) Subject: Re: Repertoire/Theme Ideas For Shrine Kilgen CD From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 09:13:42 -0500   >In a message dated 8/6/99 5:06:47 PM Central Daylight Time, >dillardm@airmail.net writes: > ><< Anyone > know of any pieces with names of flowers in their titles? >>   Last Rose of Summer Ode to a Wild Rose Only a Rose Petite Fleur... AAHH! "Little flower!" was a clarinet solo back in the = 50's How's the Kilgen's Clarinet?   John V      
(back) Subject: Re: fixing damaged pipes X-post From: Icorgan@aol.com Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:17:24 EDT   In a message dated 8/8/99 1:17:03 AM Central Daylight Time, = JDeCaria@aol.com writes:   << P.S. any suggestions on fixing those bratty children AND their rude parents would also be appreciated ;-) >> How about human sacrifice or a couple hungry lions? :)  
(back) Subject: Re: Christmas Choir/organ repertoire From: Icorgan@aol.com Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:17:26 EDT   In a message dated 8/7/99 7:52:49 PM Central Daylight Time, = ScottFop@aol.com writes:   << Does anyone else have other ideas that will work? >> I remember a piece from many, many years ago called "The Inn at = Bethlehem." I believe it was by Clarence Dickinson. Calls for soprano, tenor, baritone solos and choir.   Then there's always "Thou Must Leave Thy Lowly Dwelling" from L'Enfance du =   Christ, Berlioz.   One of my favorites is "A Christmas Carol," by Charles Ives. Either unison = or 4 parts.   I don't know the taste of your congregation, and I realize these are = oldies, but goodies, and deserve to be heard occasionally. Some of the Alfred Burt =   Christmas Carols are also very nice and appropriate for church use. I = assume they're still available from Shawnee Press. "Some Children See Him" is one = of my favorites.   Oh, I almost forgot: "Lullaby on Christmas Eve" I think it's called by F. Melius Christiansen. I you've ever heard the St. Olaf Choir do this, it'll =   melt even the hardest heart on Christmas Eve.   Maynard  
(back) Subject: Digital Cameras From: steve@open-tech.com Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:30:46 -0500   Hi Phil & Jon,   My take on this is that if you have a good camera now (35mm reflex type) = buy a scanner. It'll be cheaper and the quality of the picture will be = superior and you'll have hard copies of each picture. Get one that includes = Adobe's Photodeluxe so that you can crop, resize, and export JPEG files.   Good luck and tell us where we can find the pictures on the net when = they're ready. Some of us will want to follow your TO restoration project.   Steve Chandler   Specifically, I am interested in what features of the camera you like or = do not like. What do you think about the resolution, clarity, sharpness, focus of your particular camera? Can the data be downloaded to a computer? Is it user friendly? Price?   I know from past experience with this list, that there is a vast = storehouse of knowledge out there for me to tap on. Thanks in advance for your opinion.   Cordially, Phil Lyons, Jr. I am also interested in information on digital cameras....please make me a copy addressee on any responses to Phil.   regards,   Jon C. Habermaas opus1100@theatreorgans.com    
(back) Subject: Re: fixing damaged pipes X-post From: ORGANUT@aol.com Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:35:40 EDT   In a message dated 8/9/99 8:19:53 AM Central Daylight Time, = Icorgan@aol.com writes:   << << P.S. any suggestions on fixing those bratty children AND their rude parents would also be appreciated ;-) >> How about human sacrifice or a couple hungry lions? :) >>   How about wearing out what's left of the resonators on their "bratty" = behinds!   Later, PL  
(back) Subject: Coffer contributations of parents of bratty kids (Was: Fixing Damaged pipes X Post) From: Richard Schneider <arpncorn@davesworld.net> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 10:44:35 -0700   On Sun, 8 Aug 1999 10:17:34 EDT Stan Krider <KriderSM@aol.com> writes:   > Let's be honest...   > First the list would need to know if the parents of these "destructive > brats" are heavy contributors to the church coffers.   What should THAT fact have to do with anything? Seems to me that no amount of money can make up for lack of decorum on the part of anyone's children.   Personally, were it a choice of putting up with obnoxious kids and parents in order to get their money, I'd tell them to take both elsewhere.   My experience has been that when a family has kids which behave this way, they often will use their fiscal resources as "ransome" for whatever "pet project", or whatever bee may be in their bottle at any given moment.   I don't think that the cause of Christ is appropriately advanced by being blackmaled by such a lot. Certainly, it gives the impression of not having a proper understanding of the Ten Commandments if people like this let their children go about trashing things unchecked.   Of course, it may be they are totally unaware of a problem, and then the Scripture tell us to "go tell a brother his faults privately", and then there are mandates if they don't listen.   I would certainly have something to say, but would want to take that approach. However, that should have absolutely nothing at all to do with the parents fiscal status.   Faithfully,   Richard Schneider, President SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Organbuilders 41-43 Johnston Street Post Office Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX mailto:arpncorn@davesworld.net EMAIL (Note change in ISP's Domain-Name!)      
(back) Subject: Re: Coffer contributations of parents of bratty kids (Was: Fixing Damaged pipes X Post) From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 08:53:32 -0700   Amen!   Jason  
(back) Subject: Re: Christmas Choir/organ repertoire From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:53:38 +0100   Try "A Spotless Rose", is it by Howels? It is a very beautiful piece about the virgin Mary. It has a Baritone solo in it.   Richard    
(back) Subject: Re: Coffer contributations of parents of bratty kids (Was:Fixing Damaged pip... From: JDeCaria@aol.com Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 15:07:27 EDT   I totally agree with Richard Snider - the financial contribution of the family to the parish should have nothing to do with their culpability for = the "crimes" of their children. I showed Richard's email to the pastor of the parish, and we had a discussion about it (background: the parish is roman catholic and predominantly italian) .   Although the family turned out to be a very poor one, and not even regular =   parisihioners, the pastor completely disagrees with Richard's assessment = of the situation. His (non-humble) opinion is that if the family was a major benefactor of the parish, the good their contributions would be doing for = the parish completely outweighs the "ransom" as richard calls it. He (the pastor) is completely in favour of absorbing the cost (even of complete replacement) of the damaged pipes rather than upsetting major financial backers.   I want to make it perfectly clear that although he does make sense on a completely practical level, his opinion completely ignores the principles = od morality, justice, and integrity. I am in TOTAL disagreement. As a = potential RC priest myself, and a Cathoic (in the literal sense of the word) I feel that the principles of Justice, morality, and integrity far outweigh the = potential financial losses to the parish. A pastor, according to the code = of cannon law (528 p.1) is to "atque foveat opera quibus spiritus = evangelicus, etiam ad iustitiam socialem quod attinet, promoveatur" My translation of this is "to foster works, including social justice, by which the spirit of the gospel is promoted"   I'm only a theology student, so I have no authority to say definitively, = but in my opinion, overlooking the "crimes" of certain chilldren because of = their social or financial status in no way fosters the spirit of the gospel or = of social justice.   Still working on repairs to those pipes, (soon to be Rev.) Joseph DeCaria Toronto, Ontario  
(back) Subject: Coffer contributations of parents of bratty kids From: KriderSM@aol.com Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 21:21:44 EDT   On Sun, 8 Aug 1999 10:17:34 EDT I wrote:   > Let's be honest...   > First the list would need to know if the parents of these "destructive > brats" are heavy contributors to the church coffers.   Richard Schneider retorted (nicely, of course):   >What should THAT fact have to do with anything?   I respond politely, "It shouldn't, but in reality it does all too = frequently. Experience is a dear teacher, and ..."   Stan Krider  
(back) Subject: names of flowers in their titles From: KriderSM@aol.com Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 21:34:34 EDT   dillardm@airmail.net writes:   << Anyone know of any pieces with names of flowers in their titles? >>   Second Hand Rose... (There is a rose in) Spanish Harlem Hehehe   Stan Krider  
(back) Subject: Re: names of flowers in their titles From: Myosotis51@aol.com Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 21:46:55 EDT   In a message dated 08/09/1999 9:37:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, KriderSM@aol.com writes:   << dillardm@airmail.net writes: << Anyone know of any pieces with names of flowers in their titles? >> >>     Lo, Ere a Rose Is Blooming  
(back) Subject: pipechat@pipechat.org From: KriderSM@aol.com Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 21:49:46 EDT   Since the National Shrine of the Little Flower is located not too far from =   Holland, Michigan, how about "Tiptoe Through the Tulips" :-)   Stan Krider  
(back) Subject: Shrine Kilgen Clarinet From: ScottFop@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 00:13:47 EDT   In a message dated 8/9/99 9:14:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jovanderlee@vassar.edu writes:   << How's the Kilgen's Clarinet? >>   VERY nice, full bodied and "woody!" A beautiful tone indeed, quite orchestral. And- also, thanks for the suggestions! -SFF  
(back) Subject: Re: pipechat@pipechat.org From: "ray ahrens" <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 22:12:24 PDT   >Since the National Shrine of the Little Flower is located not too far = from >Holland, Michigan, how about "Tiptoe Through the Tulips" :-) > It's at least a three hour drive. Try something else.     _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com  
(back) Subject: tracker action pedal units From: "ray ahrens" <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 22:29:08 PDT   To the builders on the list:   How does one build a mechanical action unit pedal chest, ya know, one rank =   of pipes with upper octave extension.     _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com