PipeChat Digest #1029 - Sunday, August 15, 1999
 
Re: V Williams: Lark Ascending
  by "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net>
Re: Trumpet and Organ Arrangements
  by <Icorgan@aol.com>
Casavant - restoration/rebuilding
  by "Erik Johnson" <the_maitre@hotmail.com>
Finale vs. Sibelius, printers (X-posted)
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: Casavant - restoration/rebuilding
  by "David Enlow" <davenlow@hotmail.com>
Re: Finale vs. Sibelius, printers (X-posted)
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
Re: Finale vs. Sibelius, printers (X-posted)
  by "Jerry" <aqne@waveinter.com>
Fw: Trumpet and Organ Arrangements
  by "Carl & Grace Snip" <cgscissors@followme.com>
Fw: Finale vs. Sibelius, printers (X-posted)
  by "Carl & Grace Snip" <cgscissors@followme.com>
My current ISP
  by "Shirley" <pnst@snip.net>
Re: Finale vs. Sibelius, printers (X-posted)
  by "Robert Ehrhardt" <r_ehrh@bellsouth.net>
Re: Finale vs. Sibelius, printers (X-posted)
  by "Richard Scott-Copeland" <organist@gemshorn.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Finale vs. Sibelius, printers (X-posted)
  by "Claire" <fleahopper@earthlink.net>
Organs in Portsmouth NH & surroundings
  by "Jan Vanderstad" <dcob@nac.net>
North Carolina
  by "Preston Wilson" <p.wilson2@juno.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: V Williams: Lark Ascending From: Paul Opel <popel@sover.net> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 08:11:12 -0400   The piano reduction is published, by Boosey & Hawkes, as I remember. It = was quite easy to adapt to the organ- a few references to the full score = helped with bringing out the orchestral color, although the reduction has a lot = of instrument names and would suffice.   Paul   >It is a funny thing, but in over 60 years of enjoying music, it would = never >have occurred to me that R,V.W's "The Lark Ascending" could be played = with >an organ accompaniment! > >I would love to actually hear the work played by violin and organ, - has >anyone ever recorded it ? > >Was there ever an authorised piano reduction, for it is well known that = RVW >would have been the first to agree to it if he had known. > >Odd sort of a fellow, was R.V.W. - He looked and talked like a farmer, = and >yet wrote some glorious music, - he came to a few of our performances of >his choral works, "Hodie", "Dona nobis parcem" and the "Mass in G" , and >was very welcome to rehearsals, for he was very quiet and deliberate with >his comments, yet somehow he managed to convey his feelings to the = performers. > >I would like to know if anyone has ever heard of "The Lark Ascending" = being >on a CD. > >Bob Conway >At 07:29 AM 8/10/99 -0400, you wrote: >>I played this from the piano score at a recital last year, on a small >>unaltered EM Skinner from the 20's. The sound ouf that clarinet rising = over >>the celeste was heavenly- and the whole transcription was easy to do. = I'd >>love to hear a recording of it. In my case the violinist had played it = the >>year before with our local community orchestra, and he was most = impressed >>with the sound of the organ. "Just like the orchestra, except together = and >>in tune", he said. >> >>Highly recommended! >> >>Paul >> >>http://www.sover.net/~popel >> >> >> >>"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >>PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >>HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >>List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >>Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> >> > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org     http://www.sover.net/~popel      
(back) Subject: Re: Trumpet and Organ Arrangements From: Icorgan@aol.com Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 09:17:10 EDT   In a message dated 8/13/99 1:20:58 PM Central Daylight Time, pnst@snip.net =   writes:   << f it helps any, I have an arrangement for two trumpets and organ of the John Stanley Trumpet Tune >> Which one? I have 3 volumes of Stanley Voluntaries, and I'll bet at least half have trumpet tunes. They're all fun.   How about the Sicilienne by Maria Theresa von Paradis. Originally for = violin (I think) but works nicely with trumpet. Or the 7 Pieces by Jean = Langlais. One or two of them have relatively easy organ parts. And if you want a challenge, try some of the Krebs Chorale Preludes for solo instrument and organ. Many of the organ parts are trios, so they present their own = problems, but they're fun. Maynard  
(back) Subject: Casavant - restoration/rebuilding From: "Erik Johnson" <the_maitre@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 11:35:03 EDT   While it is true that earlier in this century Casavant did build many anglo/american organs there are also fine examples of VERY FRENCH sounding =   organs! These orgues have French Terraced Consoles with French = Nomenclature on 99.9% of the stops (Cor de Chamois is usually called Gemshorn). The plenums and individual stops all speak "French Romantic - Orchestral". There is no doubt that these organs are of a French Design. In looking at the orginal specs for Casavant Opus 600 - you will find = indeed that this orgue WAS very French, as is Opus 615 (Rebuilt by Casavant 1995) =   and my own orgue 649 (Orginal). I tend to side with the Casavants on these matters - however it seems that =   they have done the reverse of what C.C. did with the fine Cliquot orgues = of his time. Casvant is now adding Cliquot style stops, (silvery but not = harsh mixtures w/o tierces, missing mutations to positif expressif divisions, missing stops in the Bombarde/Solo divisons, pedal upper work (4, Mixtures =   which all but the VERY large Casavants had) and other such stops which do not clash with but rather enhance the French Romantic sound of these = orgues and makes them able to play more French repitory. As to restoration and rebuilding I think this has been nessitated by Brash =   Historians who all but chain themselves to organ cases to prevent the = organ builder from dusting off the pipework - (less it not sound original!!!). Many organ builders are not willing to undergo the wrath of these = Militants who forget that even the best organist and organ builders had thier organs =   enlarged/rebuilt, etc. Should we then scorn Cavaille Coll for his rebuilds? Should we shudder = when Bach added stops to his organs, (even chimes to the pedal division)? I = think the answer would be NO.     _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com  
(back) Subject: Finale vs. Sibelius, printers (X-posted) From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 10:11:30 -0700   I'm on the verge of getting music publishing software ... any comments on the relative merits of the two programs? I also need a better printer .... don't think I can afford a laser printer ... what's the best of the bubble-jet lot?   Thanks!   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Casavant - restoration/rebuilding From: "David Enlow" <davenlow@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 13:18:18 EDT   Very interesting and excellent points, however, I wonder if there is the following danger: that the alterations are not made with the taste and = style possessed by Aristide Cavaille-Coll and J.S. Bach, but by some hack or academic bumpkin with no concern for the existing organ as a whole. Whenever I have run into a Casavant here in Toronto that has an added positiv, it has generally been of limited use.   Then again, I am but a lowly organ student. Any further thoughts?   David Enlow Assistant Organist-elect Grace Church on-the-Hill davenlow@hotmail.com     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Finale vs. Sibelius, printers (X-posted) From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 10:34:36 -0700     > I'm on the verge of getting music publishing software ... any comments > on the relative merits of the two programs? I also need a better printer > ... don't think I can afford a laser printer ... what's the best of the > bubble-jet lot? > I was on the verge of installing "Finale," a Mac program, but put it off = for a while. I'll probably get it later when I can get a Powerbook. But, for printers, I have an HP Desk Jet 895Cse (color) which I think was about = $400 retail. It does an excellent job. It was originally attached to a PC but later, when I "exchanged" the PC for the Power MAC and HP developed the software driver, I was able to add it to the Mac set up. There's probably = a new model number now, but roughly the equivalent machine.   I also have an Alps MD5000 (2400 dpi color) which does fabulous work, but = is a bit expensive to operate compared to an ink jet. I think it was $700 = new. I don't know much about the bubble jet printers, but do recommend the HP = and the Alps.   Jason  
(back) Subject: Re: Finale vs. Sibelius, printers (X-posted) From: Jerry <aqne@waveinter.com> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 14:18:21 -0400   There are a lot of laser printers available for 400 & less. They cost less per sheet than bubble jets. If you want color than it's a no brainer, the HP's Cannons and Epson Ink jets all have their merits. My choice in a low cost Windows printer would be the HP 712c available for $150. Hope that helps.   Bud/burgie wrote:   > I'm on the verge of getting music publishing software ... any comments > on the relative merits of the two programs? I also need a better printer > ... don't think I can afford a laser printer ... what's the best of the > bubble-jet lot? > > Thanks! > > Bud > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Fw: Trumpet and Organ Arrangements From: "Carl & Grace Snip" <cgscissors@followme.com> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:07:45 -0400   Wow! I didn't catch the originator's e-mail address the first go-round! I = would love to be able to have it look like I have my own domain name, without paying a cent, & my = e-mail address would be snip@snip.net. Neat, huh? Wonder if the company realized that there were = people out there with that last name? Maybe all us Snips could get a freebie of some kind out of = them, nyuk nyuk.   crsnip   -----Original Message----- From: Icorgan@aol.com <Icorgan@aol.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Saturday, August 14, 1999 10:18 AM Subject: Re: Trumpet and Organ Arrangements     >In a message dated 8/13/99 1:20:58 PM Central Daylight Time, = pnst@snip.net >writes:   (e-mail "snipped" for brevity)        
(back) Subject: Fw: Finale vs. Sibelius, printers (X-posted) From: "Carl & Grace Snip" <cgscissors@followme.com> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:12:28 -0400   We're really happy with our Epson 400 Stylus colour printer, and it was = quite reasonably priced, too; my wife does a newsletter, and the printouts are clean enough to use = as masters when it's taken to the print shop.   crsnip   -----Original Message----- From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> To: organchat <organchat@onelist.com>; pipechat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Saturday, August 14, 1999 2:15 PM Subject: Finale vs. Sibelius, printers (X-posted)     >I'm on the verge of getting music publishing software ... any comments >on the relative merits of the two programs? I also need a better printer >... don't think I can afford a laser printer ... what's the best of the >bubble-jet lot? > >Thanks! > >Bud > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >        
(back) Subject: My current ISP From: Shirley <pnst@snip.net> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:59:40 -0400   Only if you live in the Philadelphia tri-state area. It's a regional ISP to this area. Webpage: http://www.snip.net. It's an acronym standing = for something like Southern New-jersey Internet Provider, and their logo is = SNiP.   --Shirley   At 03:07 PM 8/14/99 -0400, you wrote: >Wow! I didn't catch the originator's e-mail address the first go-round! I would love to be able to >have it look like I have my own domain name, without paying a cent, & my e-mail address would be >snip@snip.net. Neat, huh? Wonder if the company realized that there were people out there with that >last name? Maybe all us Snips could get a freebie of some kind out of them, nyuk nyuk. > >crsnip    
(back) Subject: Re: Finale vs. Sibelius, printers (X-posted) From: "Robert Ehrhardt" <r_ehrh@bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:14:01 -0500   Finale has a very steep learning curve, IMHO. I find Sibelius much easier to learn and it does a fabulous job capturing realtime MIDI input from a keyboard. You can download a full demo version from = http://www.sibelius.com and try it out. The demo does everything the full program does except = save files, extract parts and scan printed music.   ----- Original Message ----- From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> To: organchat <organchat@onelist.com>; pipechat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 1999 12:11 PM Subject: Finale vs. Sibelius, printers (X-posted)     > I'm on the verge of getting music publishing software ... any comments > on the relative merits of the two programs? I also need a better printer > ... don't think I can afford a laser printer ... what's the best of the > bubble-jet lot?      
(back) Subject: Re: Finale vs. Sibelius, printers (X-posted) From: "Richard Scott-Copeland" <organist@gemshorn.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:22:46 +0100         > >> I'm on the verge of getting music publishing software ... any comments >> on the relative merits of the two programs? I also need a better = printer >> ... don't think I can afford a laser printer ... what's the best of the >> bubble-jet lot?     You'll go a long way to beat a Hewlett Packard HP 895 cxi printer. It's excellent and can do 12 pages a minute in b/w 5 pages in colour. All for =A3200. Prints music beautifully. By the way, I use Music Publisher 32 (available from Braeburn Software) It does things Sibelius can't, and is less than =A380 quid.     Richard Scott-Copeland Organist Portsmouth Cathedral and City Centre Parish, Southampton Southampton England      
(back) Subject: Re: Finale vs. Sibelius, printers (X-posted) From: Claire <fleahopper@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 20:26:16 -0400   At 10:11 AM 8/14/99 -0700, you wrote: >I'm on the verge of getting music publishing software ... any comments >on the relative merits of the two programs? I also need a better printer >... don't think I can afford a laser printer ... what's the best of the >bubble-jet lot?   was down to the Wanamaker Organ the other day - Peter Richard Conte was doing the concert (took a nephew who works for a pipe organ factory in Tx) - they were talking & Peter said he does his transcriptions on Finale (my ears perked up since I didn't know what was a good program to use) - but based on that - I now know :) Claire    
(back) Subject: Organs in Portsmouth NH & surroundings From: Jan Vanderstad <dcob@nac.net> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 22:47:34 -0400   Hello Listers--- I will be in Portsmouth NH vacationing with my family early next week Monday, August 16th and Tuesday, August 17th, and in the Concord and Mt. Washington area later on in the week- August 18th and 19th. Are there any significant organs I should make an effort to see, hear, and/or play? I hear there is a decent Hook & Hastings in the Catholic church in Portsmouth- is anyone familiar with it? I am hoping to make arrangements to get to Methuen Music Hall sometime that week also. Any leads will be appreciated. Jan Vanderstad  
(back) Subject: North Carolina From: Preston Wilson <p.wilson2@juno.com> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 01:36:39 -0700   If there is anyone on the List from North Carolina, would you please get in touch with me privately. I have some questions for you.   Shalom, Preston p.wilson2@juno.com   ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.