PipeChat Digest #1033 - Wednesday, August 18, 1999
 
Re: Finale vs. Sibelius, printers (X-posted)
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Fw: Finale vs. Sibelius, printers (X-posted)
  by "Carl & Grace Snip" <cgscissors@followme.com>
OT: Refill Kits , was Re: Finale vs. Sibelius, printers
  by <douglas@blackiris.com>
Ink Cartridge refills
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@post.queensu.ca>
OFF TOPIC Postings
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Bach(?) Jig Fugue
  by "ray ahrens" <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com>
Re: Bach(?) Jig Fugue
  by "Lynn & Tom" <tom.lynn@sympatico.ca>
Re: Bach(?) Jig Fugue
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
Re: Bach(?) Jig Fugue
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Bach(?) Jig Fugue
  by <dgoward@att.net>
Re: Bach(?) Jig Fugue
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
Re: Relays & switches, reeds
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Bach(?) Jig Fugue
  by "STRAIGHT" <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net>
Re: Bach(?) Jig Fugue
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Residence Organ Progress / looking for ranks
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Relays & switches, reeds
  by <CHERCAPA@aol.com>
Re: Paul P. Valtos
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
refills
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: trumpet & organ
  by <Icorgan@aol.com>
IS VIRGIL FOX ON VIDEO?
  by "Lynn & Tom" <tom.lynn@sympatico.ca>
Re: IS VIRGIL FOX ON VIDEO?
  by <Pepehomer@aol.com>
Re: IS VIRGIL FOX ON VIDEO?
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@MediaOne.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Finale vs. Sibelius, printers (X-posted) From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:22:01 -0500   >Jerry wrote: My only criticism >is the high cost of the ink cartridges   Slightly off-topic but useful knowledge for all.   Consider the use of re-fill kits. It takes a little manual dexterity (not uncommon among organ folks!) but you can cut your ink cost by as much as 75%.   Computer shows have real bargain prices on the stuff. Check it out.   John V      
(back) Subject: Fw: Finale vs. Sibelius, printers (X-posted) From: "Carl & Grace Snip" <cgscissors@followme.com> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:40:44 -0400   Dear William (Bill?) and list:   I wrote in earlier about Epson printers. Part of the reason I'm quite = satisfied with mine is because I learned of a way to circumvent the high cost of replacing Epson = ink cartridges, and that is to refill them. A colleague tweaked me on to this; various companies = make refill kits for them, the kit I purchased here in Canada is made by NOMI.   The print head that has run out of ink is only empty--not worn out! = Apparently a cartridge can be refilled from five to seven times before its print head is truly toast, = and refilling costs only a fraction, as in one-fifth, the cost of the equivalent number of = cartridges.   crsnip   -----Original Message----- From: William Morton <wjm@pacbell.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Sunday, August 15, 1999 5:04 PM Subject: Re: Finale vs. Sibelius, printers (X-posted)   >As to printers, I recently bought an Epson 850 Inkjet (about $350?) and >have been >happy with it EXCEPT that it uses expensive cartridges. It has separate >monochrome >and color cart's, each is about $30. In the last year I've had it I = would >guess I've been >through about 6 or 8 of each type, which mounts up.        
(back) Subject: OT: Refill Kits , was Re: Finale vs. Sibelius, printers From: douglas@blackiris.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:51:08 -0500   This is only my humble opinon:   Just a word of warning - using refill kits on HP printers will void your warranty - no ifs ands or buts. If it is not done properly (and sometimes = even when done properly) the refilled cartridges tend to leak (when this = happens it gets ink all over the motherboard of the printer & fries it). I speak = from direct experience of my own and of many other people. So my suggestion is if you have an HP inkjet, then only use certified cartridges till your = printer is out of warranty. For black ink only printing - ie sheet music & the = like - the cheaper laser printers are really more economical in the long run. I personally use a DJ 855C since I need color, and have found it to be a wonderful printer over the years - I also still only use certified HP = cartridges despite the extra expense and feel it's worth it in the long run.   > Slightly off-topic but useful knowledge for all. > > Consider the use of re-fill kits. It takes a little manual dexterity = (not > uncommon among organ folks!) but you can cut your ink cost by as much as > 75%. > > Computer shows have real bargain prices on the stuff. Check it out.     Douglas McMurry <douglas@blackiris.com>   "Work like you don't need the money, Love like you've never been hurt, Dance like nobody's watching!"  
(back) Subject: Ink Cartridge refills From: Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:29:53 -0400   This is really off topic, but i feel that I must add my own experience = with ink refills for ink jet printers.   I have owned a Hewlett Packard 500, and it was not at all compatible with re-fills, the mess that they make if they leak is unbelievable! I now = have a Canon BJC 600e and although I have never used refills in it, my daughter has, with the same model, and similarly had disastrous reults.   For what it is worth, I would stick to the manufacturers products, they might be more costly, but far more reliable!   Back to matters organic!   Bob Conway  
(back) Subject: OFF TOPIC Postings From: Administrator <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:48:27 -0700   Ok guys, we are pretty liberal around here, but INK JET refills has absolutely nothing at all to do with PipeChat. Please move to another topic thanks,   Pete!   Dr. Peter Pocock Co-Owner, PipeChat      
(back) Subject: Bach(?) Jig Fugue From: "ray ahrens" <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:21:46 PDT   I've just heard from two reliable sources that Bach is not the composer of =   the "Jig" Fugue we all know and love. If not, who is? More importantly, should I ask for a tuition rebate from the University of Michigan for = their mis-education?   -ray     _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Bach(?) Jig Fugue From: "Lynn & Tom" <tom.lynn@sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:36:32 -0400   I have heard and played the "Jig Fugue" for years, and thought it was by Bach. Who do your "reliable sources" say composed it? Do they know? = What do they surmise, if anything?   Virgil Fox does an excellent version of the "Jig Fugue"; I have it on analog recording. I should get it on cd someday. I heard from piporg-l, another list, that it is on a cd called "Heavy Organ", for anyone interested.   Lynn Bannister tom.lynn@sympatico.ca -----Original Message----- From: ray ahrens <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 1:23 PM Subject: Bach(?) Jig Fugue     >I've just heard from two reliable sources that Bach is not the composer = of >the "Jig" Fugue we all know and love. If not, who is? More importantly, >should I ask for a tuition rebate from the University of Michigan for = their >mis-education? > >-ray > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Bach(?) Jig Fugue From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:53:45 -0700     > I've just heard from two reliable sources that Bach is not the composer = of > the "Jig" Fugue we all know and love. If not, who is? More = importantly, > should I ask for a tuition rebate from the University of Michigan for = their > mis-education? > have heard that it was not written for organ ... I had not heard it was written by someone else. I 'd like to know, too. I'm in the process of working it up to play. I like it, no matter who wrote it or for what instrument. -:)   Jason  
(back) Subject: Re: Bach(?) Jig Fugue From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:14:01 -0700   At 10:21 AM 8/17/1999 PDT, you wrote: >I've just heard from two reliable sources that Bach is not the composer of= =20 >the "Jig" Fugue we all know and love.<snip>   My "reliable sources" tell me that Bach indeed did compose the "Fuge =E0 la Gigue", but not for organ. However, the "Eight Little Preludes and Fugues", a Schirmer staple and edited by Schwietzer, were NOT composed by Bach. Supposedly, these were composed by a student.   Who knows?   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Bach(?) Jig Fugue From: dgoward@att.net Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:25:05 +0000   Okay, let the truth be known: There never really was as J. S. Bach -- It was really a committee comprised of Wilhelm Johannsen, Gustav Schiedt, Walter Bohnhoffer, Edvard Aaronson, William Comstock, and Laurens Hammond -- these are the ones who got together one summer and wrote everything that is now attributed to the mythical J. S. Bach. Obviously, they used their initials to make up an amalgram for the name.   Dennis          
(back) Subject: Re: Bach(?) Jig Fugue From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:30:10 -0700   > However, the "Eight Little Preludes and Fugues", > a Schirmer staple and edited by Schwietzer, were NOT composed by Bach. > Supposedly, these were composed by a student. > I don't know for sure, but I recently purchased Johann Christian Kittel's Preludes and #1 starts out exactly like the little C major "Bach" Prelude .... I wonder if he copied whoever wrote the one attributed to Bach (particularly the first measure) or the other way around, of he wrote = both.   Jaons  
(back) Subject: Re: Relays & switches, reeds From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:43:34 -0500   Cleaning my files.. came across this:   >>>Do you still have the three Klann gang switches available. Sincerely, = Paul >>>P. Valtos   > >would you like to have them? >   Still intersted?   >John V      
(back) Subject: Re: Bach(?) Jig Fugue From: "STRAIGHT " <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:46:23 -0400   Did you say you were talking about Shakespeare? or was it Leonardo da Vinci? We have individuals right now who are geniuses, sometimes in more than one field at a time. They're just people. There's no reason why there couldn't be others at not-so-far-back times in history. The big difference is in printing, and information distribution. At = the times those people lived, relatively little was recorded, compared to the last hundred years or so. Only a few were recorded so well historically. Another factor is power. Organs require some kind of power. That = means practice time. Any middle class person nowadays can buy an organ, plug it in, and spend unlimited practice time, or go to a church or someplace and use their larger organ for long periods of practice time. That was not = the case in the 1600's, by any means. And the leisure to do so is still another factor. At a time when farming was the most common activity, having the time or energy or opportunity to learn to play an organ, or even study music, was out ot the question for the majority of people, even though they may very likely have had the ability. Isn't it nice to be able to sit here and talk about it? We live = pretty well, don't we? Diane S. (straight@infoblvd.net)    
(back) Subject: Re: Bach(?) Jig Fugue From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:04:05 -0700   At 07:25 PM 8/17/1999 +0000, you wrote: >Okay, let the truth be known: There never really was as >J. S. Bach<snip>   ROFLMAO! TFF!   dESertBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Residence Organ Progress / looking for ranks From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:07:06 -0500   Jan, how much of this do you still need?   >I'm still in search for: >8' set of strings >4' Octave >4' Flute >2-2/3' Nazard >2' Flute >8' small scale reed >8' Vox in box >It would help greatly if the ranks were here in NJ; right now I >dont have much time for travel.   John V (In Poughkeepsie NY)      
(back) Subject: Re: Relays & switches, reeds From: CHERCAPA@aol.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:08:04 EDT   Dear John, Yup. Paul  
(back) Subject: Re: Paul P. Valtos From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:44:07 -0500   If there is a Paul P. Valtos on this list please contact me - lost your email address,   John V      
(back) Subject: refills From: Roy Redman <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:45:16 -0500   I don't know about HPs, but on my Cannon the refill hole is on the top. How can this leak? Roy Redman    
(back) Subject: Re: trumpet & organ From: Icorgan@aol.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:17:08 EDT   In a message dated 8/15/99 8:12:47 AM Central Daylight Time, highnote@mhtc.net writes:   << I can't imagine this on trumpet (give me time <g>) >> If you haven't heard it yet, it's on the CD "Ceremonial Music for trumpet = and symphonic organ" with Rolf Smedvig and Michael Murray (Telarc CD-80341). Actually, I've yet to hear it with violin, so we both have something to = look forward to. Maynard  
(back) Subject: IS VIRGIL FOX ON VIDEO? From: "Lynn & Tom" <tom.lynn@sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:11:14 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_004A_01BEE905.CD942920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   I've been reading in "piporg-l" about a light show by Virgil Fox several = =3D years ago. Have there been any videos produced of his concerts? If =3D anyone on this list belongs to "piporg-l", could you please post this, =3D as I do not have posting privileges on that list. =3D20   Thank you.   Lynn Bannister tom.lynn@sympatico.ca   ------=3D_NextPart_000_004A_01BEE905.CD942920 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD>   <META content=3D3Dtext/html;charset=3D3Diso-8859-1 =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3D3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>I've been reading in =3D &quot;piporg-l&quot; about=3D20 a light show by Virgil Fox several years ago.&nbsp; Have there been any = =3D videos=3D20 produced of his concerts?&nbsp; If anyone on this list belongs to=3D20 &quot;piporg-l&quot;, could you please post this, as I do not have =3D posting=3D20 privileges on that list.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>Thank you.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>Lynn Bannister</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 =3D size=3D3D2>tom.lynn@sympatico.ca</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_004A_01BEE905.CD942920--    
(back) Subject: Re: IS VIRGIL FOX ON VIDEO? From: Pepehomer@aol.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:11:24 EDT   There is one video, "the Joy of Bach" where a clip of him performing = the Gigue is shown, lights, audience and all. It's an older video, made in = 1979, and I'm not sure if it's still in print. I ordered mine from a Christian Bookstore out of curiosity.   Justin Karch Organist, Holy Trinity LCMS Rome, GA  
(back) Subject: Re: IS VIRGIL FOX ON VIDEO? From: Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@MediaOne.net> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:18:35 -0400   http://www.virgilfox.com/index.html#menu This is a link to the Virgil Fox Society. They might be able to provide you with some more useful information.   Stan Lowkis   > Lynn & Tom wrote: > > I've been reading in "piporg-l" about a light show by Virgil Fox > several years ago. Have there been any videos produced of his > concerts?