PipeChat Digest #1039 - Tuesday, August 24, 1999
 
Re: Old St. Mary's Wigton
  by "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: gemshorn
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: gemshorn
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Sunday's postlude..............
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: Sunday's postlude..............
  by "David Enlow" <davenlow@hotmail.com>
Re: David N. Johnson
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: Wanamaker Grand Court Organ
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
final resting places
  by "Bud/Burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Reed organ pipes needed
  by <Posthorn8@aol.com>
Re: Crown Imperial. . . 1961/Chrysler
  by <JCarington@aol.com>
Re: Reed organ pipes needed
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Reed organ pipes needed
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: gemshorn
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: New Organ Planned
  by "Erik Johnson" <the_maitre@hotmail.com>
(no subject)
  by "C. J. O'Donnell" <cjod@msy.bellsouth.net>
Re: Reed organ pipes needed
  by "Bud/Burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Organist Shortage article (Long)
  by <Pepehomer@aol.com>
TAO article
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: TAO article
  by "Bud/Burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: TAO article
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Sunday's postlude..............
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: gemshorn
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Sunday's postlude..............
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: Sunday's postlude..............
  by <KurtvonS@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Old St. Mary's Wigton From: "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:35:10 -0400   All devout Lutherans, of course.   Alan   >From: Richard Schneider <arpncorn@davesworld.net>   > The Entablatures and Tower pediments were simply massive. They and the > walnut Pipe Shades were all carved by Bavarian craftsmen in Frankenmuth, > MI.  
(back) Subject: Re: gemshorn From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 01:10:41 -0400 (EDT)   John, John, John, nice to hear from you again. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: gemshorn From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 00:47:28 -0400 (EDT)   John, John, John, nice to hear from you again. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Sunday's postlude.............. From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 02:28:18 EDT     Greeting all,   I was wondering that since today's Gospel reading had the = text "...thou art Peter, and the gates of hell shall never prevail against thee....", how many of you played "Tu Es Petra" by Henri Mulet? It was = very appropriate.   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Sunday's postlude.............. From: "David Enlow" <davenlow@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:44:31 EDT   or 'Tu es petrus' of Durufle for an anthem or motet?   W. David Enlow, Assistant Organist-elect Grace Church on-the-Hill, Toronto     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: David N. Johnson From: "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 02:40:48 -0400     >that David was cremated and that his remains (in an urn of >course) >are at rest in the organ case at Trinity Episcopal Catherdral where he >was >organist!   When I die, which shouldn't be soon I hope!, I either want to be buried under a Console I designed and built or be cremated and have my remains melted into an organ rank. Of course I don't think the builders would want to work with my ashes, so I think I would prefer being buried under the console.     jc   ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.  
(back) Subject: Re: Wanamaker Grand Court Organ From: "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 02:46:59 -0400   >I was > >introduced and got a chance to play the Wanamaker organ, with Mr. >Conte >creating most excellent registrations on my behalf. ;=3D> And, being a > >near-impoverished student, did not have means to make any sort of >donation.     Kewl! I'm excited!!!!! I'd like to see what he comes up for Boellman's Suite Gothique Toccata!     >>From standing around the console, it seemed that Mr. Conte would >offer a >chance to play to any organists who declared themselves prior to the >beginning of the playing time. (I believe that is noon every weekday, >but I >might be mistaken.) Perhaps it would be helpful to declare any >diploma or >number of years playing you may have under your belt.     I'll certainly try that!     >That second post was correct - I arrived early for the session, and >looked >very funny standing around the console in the women's underclothes >department. Then again, I'm certain they're accustomed to organists >hanging >around the great keydesk. All the best!     Well, my mom can do some shopping while I listen to the organ.     Thnkx jc   ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.  
(back) Subject: final resting places From: Bud/Burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:37:52 -0700   I have already told Earnest Young Rector that I want my ashes buried in = the Lady Chapel of the new church, within sound of "the blessed mutter of the Mass" (grin).   Bud (who came so close to kicking it so many times the past four years = that I've quit worrying about it)   "Jason D. Comet" wrote:   > >that David was cremated and that his remains (in an urn of > >course) > >are at rest in the organ case at Trinity Episcopal Catherdral where he > >was > >organist! > > When I die, which shouldn't be soon I hope!, I either want to be buried > under a Console I designed and built or be cremated and have my remains > melted into an organ rank. Of course I don't think the builders would > want to work with my ashes, so I think I would prefer being buried = under > the console. > > jc > > ___________________________________________________________________ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Reed organ pipes needed From: Posthorn8@aol.com Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:51:48 EDT   Hi Gang,   From time to time I see a reed organ with a nice facade of pipes sitting = on the console. (Usually in it's own casework.) I would love to find a set of =   these. If anyone should know of one, or where I should go on the web to search for one, please let me know.   Thanks, Tim  
(back) Subject: Re: Crown Imperial. . . 1961/Chrysler From: JCarington@aol.com Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:23:26 EDT   I saw the posting about Crown Imperial and had a flashback to my wonderful =   1961 Chrysler Crown Imperial with the headlights on pedestals, the = stainless steel roof, the enormous tailfins with dangling tailights that looked like =   red plastic fishing reels encased in chrome rings, the rectangular = steering wheel, the pushbutton transmission and the faux spare tire hump in the = trunk lid.   So THAT's where they got the name for the car!   John Carington Chesterton, Indiana  
(back) Subject: Re: Reed organ pipes needed From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:36:11 -0500   If anyone should know of one, or where I should go on the web to >search for one, please let me know.   Tim,   Unless you are looking for a set that is racked, mounted and already built into a facade, we have some incomplete ranks of metal pipes that we'd love to get rid of. I'd have to double check in our storage, but let me know if you're interested and what size.   John V      
(back) Subject: Re: Reed organ pipes needed From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:18:25 -0500   Sorry, list, I accidentally posted a private answer. ....fingers moving = too fast....   John V      
(back) Subject: Re: gemshorn From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:10:04 -0400 (EDT)   sorry for the double post to John (Drawknob). The system booted me both times and I didn't know if the post went through either time. -Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: New Organ Planned From: "Erik Johnson" <the_maitre@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:43:42 EDT   You may want to re-consider nameing the Zimbelstern. Carillon in Francais =   is usually a mixture rank much like the Jeu du Cloche stop. In French, = the Zimbelstern (ringing star(s)) is best renamed as: Etoile Sonnerie.   I would also caution on the scaling of pipework - it shouldn't be too = small - French pipework, (esp. Montres) are known for broad scaling and rich sounds. This isn't a north german organ - the 8' flute and string are = meant to be pulled together in the Jue du Fonds registration. Just my Own $0.02 worth.   Maitre     _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com  
(back) Subject: From: "C. J. O'Donnell" <cjod@msy.bellsouth.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:57:41 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0053_01BEED80.3B4DBDE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Anyone out there happen to have a schematic for a ISS MINI II =3D combination action.. model 16-10 s/n 0749..   ISS is out of business and there is nowhere to get such information..   please reply privately.   C. J. O'Donnell   cjod@churchorgan.com   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0053_01BEED80.3B4DBDE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3401" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Anyone out there happen to have a =3D schematic for a=3D20 ISS MINI II combination action..</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>model 16-10 s/n 0749..</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>ISS is out of business and there is = =3D nowhere to get=3D20 such information..</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>please reply privately.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>C. J. O'Donnell</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =3D size=3D3D2>cjod@churchorgan.com</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0053_01BEED80.3B4DBDE0--    
(back) Subject: Re: Reed organ pipes needed From: Bud/Burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:47:52 -0700   The Beehive (if it's still in business) and/or the Reed Organ Society's homepage. There's one other, but I can't remember the name. Just put in = "reed organ" for a search string and it should pop up. Pipe-tops, as they were = called, were, of course, fake, except for one rare exception I once saw where = there was actually a speaking 8' Gedeckt in the facade of what was otherwise a reed = organ.   Cheers,   Bud   Posthorn8@aol.com wrote:   > Hi Gang, > > >From time to time I see a reed organ with a nice facade of pipes = sitting on > the console. (Usually in it's own casework.) I would love to find a set = of > these. If anyone should know of one, or where I should go on the web to > search for one, please let me know. > > Thanks, > Tim > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Organist Shortage article (Long) From: Pepehomer@aol.com Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:08:50 EDT   This was in the Sunday edition of the Salina Journal (Kansas) - a = paper I look up often to keep up with what's going on in the region I came from. = I found the article very interesting...   <<Organs may fall silent because there soon may not be anyone left to play =   them By GARY DEMUTH The Salina Journal Throughout history and across the world, pipe organs have filled churches, =   cathedrals and synagogues with rich, powerful, spine-chilling music = designed to move the soul. The great organs create intense walls of sound that burst out of finely crafted pipes, vibrate through the marrows of their rapturous listeners, = and soar into the skies as if trying to reach the gates of heaven itself. They have been an essential part of church services, weddings, funerals, coronations, and even musicals ("Phantom of the Opera"). But soon, these great organs may fall silent. Not because of wear or tear, = or lack of designers and craftsmen to build new ones, but because there soon = may not be anyone left to play them. Organists and students of the organ have been declining rapidly over the = past decade, and that worries Royce Young. Young, who has been organist and music director at Christ Cathedral, 138 = S. Eighth, for nearly 25 years, realizes that he may be part of a dying = breed. "I've had lots of calls from churches, asking if I knew someone who would = be a good candidate for an organist, and it's difficult to give an answer," Young said. "I've had to look hard to find substitute organists when I go = on vacation." Young, who became a canon at Christ Cathedral two years ago, sat on the wooden bench before the massive, hand-crafted pipe organ that filled the church sanctuary and struck a few chords on two of its three sets of keyboards. The tones that burst forth were richer and deeper than any = Dolby sound system at the finest state-of-the-art theater, and the soaring vibrations rattled the rafters and shook the stained-glass windows. As the chords echoed and faded into the vaulted ceiling, Young tried to explain why he thought church organists were an endangered species. First, it is a profession that takes an ungodly amount of time. "As an organist, you're responsible for playing all the weekly services, = plus weddings and funerals, as well as all the holidays like Christmas and = Easter, so it's hard to get away," he said. "There used to be a tradition of volunteerism, but people are not as generous with their time now. Regular jobs have become so demanding." Young understands the time problem. In addition to his church duties, he = is head of the music department at South Middle School and conducts the = chapel choir at St. John's Military School. The money isn't there Second, the money just isn't there. Young said that many churches demand = that their organists have college and postgraduate degrees, but then can't = afford to pay them a decent salary. "Churches want to have excellence, but the compensation just hasn't kept pace," Young said. Third, the organ is a much more complicated instrument to play than a = piano and utilizes a very different technique, Young said. For one, the organ = has three, possibly four keyboards, plus a large pedal board that calls for highly developed hand and foot coordination. On top of that, an organist = has to be able to read up to six lines of music at a time. "A student has to be exceptionally good on the piano before they can even attempt to play a church organ like this," Young said. Despite the drawbacks, Young said he gets great personal satisfaction out = of playing the organ, as do most other organists he knows, because it's a way = to serve God with the talents he's been given. Young plays a custom-designed organ built by the Moller Pipe Organ Company = of Maryland. It was installed in the cathedral in 1977 at a cost of nearly $100,000. It has three keyboards, a large half-circle of footpedals, a multitude of stops that change the organ's registration and tone quality (creating sounds from brass instruments to soft violins), and a video monitor that allows Young, who sits obscured behind the organ's large shell, to = see what the priest and congregation are doing in the sanctuary. He often has brought his students here for a demonstration, and said they = are fascinated at how the organ works and amazed at what's involved in playing = it. "Once they see how it works, we can start to build interest in it again," Young said. "Teachers need to encourage their talented piano students = towards playing the organ, if they're interested." Organ students have declined Do students still have the desire to take up the organ? Not if one looks = at recent figures. The number of students enrolled for degrees in organ and sacred music has declined from 1983 to the present, according to figures provided to the American Guild of Organists by the National Association of Schools of = Music in Reston, Va. In 1983, more than 1,000 organ students were enrolled nationally at = schools and universities. By the mid-1990s, enrollment had dropped to about 600. = The number of degrees presented in organ study during those years dropped from =   about 240 to 148. Robert Town, associate professor of organ at Wichita State University and past president of the American Guild of Organists, has seen a precipitous drop in organ students in his 34 years of teaching at the university. "I had a high of 20 organ majors in 1978," Town said. "Now I have 12 students, only eight of whom are majors." Wichita State is home to what is considered one of the finer organs in the =   United States. The organ sits in Weideman Recital Hall on the WSU campus = (the hall was constructed around the organ), and was built by the Denmark = company Marcussen and Son, considered by many experts to be the world's premier organ-builder, Town said. It was built and installed in 1986, at a cost of =   more than $500,000. It was commissioned by the university after Town's students became more visible in national and international competitions. Town agrees with Young that a fine organ student must have a good piano background to succeed with this difficult instrument. "I started as a pianist, and the organ is much more difficult," Town said. =   "As (pianist and organist) Robert Shumann said, 'No other instrument shows = up a shabby keyboard technique faster than the organ."'>>   Justin Karch Organist, Holy Trinity LCMS Rome, GA  
(back) Subject: TAO article From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:28:36 -0400 (EDT)   Friends: I wanted to call your attention to pg. 52 of the new Sept 99 issue of "The American Organist" (for those of you who receive the magazine).   Peace to you all. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: TAO article From: Bud/Burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:59:27 -0700   Perhaps a synopsis for those of us who don't?   Cheers,   Bud   N Brown wrote:   > Friends: I wanted to call your attention to pg. 52 of the new Sept 99 > issue of "The American Organist" (for those of you who receive the > magazine). > > Peace to you all. --Neil > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: TAO article From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:24:48 -0400 (EDT)   Certainly, Bud. But I didn't want to appear to braggy. It is titled, "ToccataFest 1999" by yours truly. Just telling of my experience in preparing and playing the toccatas back in May (I'm sure you'll remember that). I did not write about my bum thumbs however. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Sunday's postlude.............. From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:43:42 EDT   In a message dated 8/23/99 8:37:16 AM Central Daylight Time, concert_organist@hotmail.com writes:   << how many of you played "Tu Es Petra" by Henri Mulet? It was very appropriate. >>   Very True.... I am in the process of learning the blasted piece right = now... so, needless to say I didn't play it... next time I will!   John  
(back) Subject: Re: gemshorn From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:51:02 EDT   In a message dated 8/23/99 8:54:12 AM Central Daylight Time, Innkawgneeto@webtv.net writes:   << John, John, John, nice to hear from you again >>   Neil, Neil, Neil, it's nice to hear from you too!   By chance if you or anyone else is interested in either a Rodgers or = Ruffatti organ please let me know!!!   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Sunday's postlude.............. From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 01:21:54 EDT   >Very True.... I am in the process of learning the blasted piece right >now... >so, needless to say I didn't play it... next time I will! > >John >   John & group,   blasted piece is right!!! At times you need an extra finger on each hand.....very impresive to listen to, even more so if one can see the =   organist play it.   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Sunday's postlude.............. From: KurtvonS@aol.com Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 01:34:49 EDT   Dear Tu es Petrists, Perhaps (tongue in cheek) a bit more piano technique studies are called for; there is nothing out of range found in Tu es Petra....