PipeChat Digest #1044 - Friday, August 27, 1999
 
Re: Virgil Fox 1950s
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: Virgil Fox 1950s
  by "antoni scott" <ascott@epix.net>
Church Organ Trader message board
  by "J. VANDERSTAD" <dcob@nac.net>
Guilmant's 1st Sonata
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: Church Organ Trader message board
  by <prswank@impop.bellatlantic.net>
Re: Virgil Fox 1950s
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Virgil Fox 1950s
  by <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Home from OHS Montreal
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: Church Organ Trader message board
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: Church Organ Trader message board
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Virgil Fox 1950s From: David Scribner <david@blackiris.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 05:00:05 -0500   >Wow! I know exactly the one you mean, and have the music at home. It = was >written especially for Mr. Fox. Give me three hours, and I'll locate the >title and publishing info, I have it in reprint from the OHS, so I'm sure >it's still available.   The piece is "Perpetuum Mobile" by Middleschulte - I think I might have the spellings right. It was not written for Fox but it is a movement of a Concerto for Organ and Orchestra. If I am not mistaken the original scoring is for organ and tympani. it was discussed on another list a = while back and I think I kept those postings which I will find when I get home tonight.   David      
(back) Subject: Re: Virgil Fox 1950s From: antoni scott <ascott@epix.net> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:39:45 -0400   This recording of Fox playing Middelschulte's Perpetuum Mobile is available on CD recorded on the Riverside organ in 1959 (EMI The Art of Virgil Fox Volume II 7243 5 65913 2 5) It is also available on the Rogers Touring Organ series as a live performance.   I have seen Fox play this several times and still can't believe it. Next, I was waiting to hear him play Widor's Toccata from the 5th Symphony, but play the right hand parts on the pedal !!!!!)     Antoni Scott   Edward Marsh wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=3D_NextPart_000_0023_01BEEF36.ABCF13E0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=3D"iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I am trying to locate the title of a piece of music written for solo =3D > pedal that Virgil Fox played in a recital circa 1954/55 at St Mary's =3D > Church, Redcliffe in Bristol UK. My Father, then a boy, recounts that = =3D > Virgil Fox was dressed in white, sporting a dark blue 'Dracularian' =3D > cape! This piece, which has obviously made a lasting impression with my = =3D > father, (apparently) ends with a (manual?) glissando! Those of you who = =3D > might know Virgil Fox, or might have an inkling as to what this work =3D > might be, I would very much appreciate your help. Furthermore, I =3D > apologise for the incredible lack of detail! > > Edward > -- > Edward Marsh BA FRCO(CHM) > Director, NPC Records > http://www.nutcracker-productions.com > info@nutcracker-productions.com > edmarsh@lineone.net > > +44 (0) 191 285 4098 Phone > +44 (0) 191 285 2219 Phone/Fax > +44 (0) 789 975 8152 Mobile > > 3 Mayfield Road > Gosforth > Newcastle upon Tyne > NE3 4HE > England > UK > > ------=3D_NextPart_000_0023_01BEEF36.ABCF13E0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset=3D"iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> > <HTML> > <HEAD> > > <META content=3D3Dtext/html;charset=3D3Diso-8859-1 =3D > http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> > <META content=3D3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3D3DGENERATOR> > </HEAD> > <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> > <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>I am trying to locate the title = of a =3D > piece of=3D20 > music written for solo pedal that Virgil Fox played in a recital circa = =3D > 1954/55=3D20 > at St Mary's Church, Redcliffe in Bristol UK. My Father, then a boy, =3D > recounts=3D20 > that Virgil Fox was dressed in white, sporting a dark blue 'Dracularian' = =3D > cape!=3D20 > This piece, which has obviously made a lasting impression with my =3D > father,=3D20 > (apparently) ends with a (manual?) glissando! Those of you who might =3D > know Virgil=3D20 > Fox, or might have an inkling as to what this work might be, I would =3D > very much=3D20 > appreciate your help. Furthermore, I apologise for the incredible lack = =3D > of=3D20 > detail!</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Edward</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>--</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>Edward Marsh BA =3D > FRCO(CHM)<BR>Director, NPC=3D20 > Records<BR><A=3D20 > = href=3D3D"http://www.nutcracker-productions.com">http://www.nutcracker-prod= =3D > uctions.com</A><BR><A=3D20 > = href=3D3D"mailto:info@nutcracker-productions.com">info@nutcracker-productio= =3D > ns.com</A><BR><A=3D20 > = href=3D3D"mailto:edmarsh@lineone.net">edmarsh@lineone.net</A></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> > <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>+44 (0) 191 285 4098&nbsp; =3D > Phone<BR>+44 (0) 191=3D20 > 285 2219&nbsp; Phone/Fax<BR>+44 (0) 789 975 8152&nbsp; =3D > Mobile</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> > <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>3 Mayfield =3D > Road<BR>Gosforth<BR>Newcastle upon=3D20 > Tyne<BR>NE3 4HE<BR>England<BR>UK</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> > > ------=3D_NextPart_000_0023_01BEEF36.ABCF13E0-- > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Church Organ Trader message board From: "J. VANDERSTAD" <dcob@nac.net> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:07:59 -0400   Good morning, folks Does anyone know where the Church Organ Trader Message board disappeared to? it's url was http://www.tunertech.com Now, it seems to be the url of some sort of technical school. Any leads will be appreciated. Thanks. Mr. Jan Vanderstad  
(back) Subject: Guilmant's 1st Sonata From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:17:53 EDT     Greetings all,   I'll be playing the 1st sonata (Op.42) in d minor by = Guilmant for a concert in a few weeks and there's something that I'm not quite sure =   of. I'm using the Schott edition. In the finale, page 30, 3rd system, when =   the tempo becomes "Andante Maestoso", the registration calls for "Full" (Bombarde du Gd. O.), does that mean full organ with or without 32'? Since =   the pedal calls for, at times, 3 notes played simultaneously, adding the 32's here might make the pedals sound too heavy. Should I leave them out = and add them only at the end when the tempo resumes "con fuoco" (Tempo Primo)? =   *thinking*.....hmmmmm...what to do.....?   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Church Organ Trader message board From: prswank@impop.bellatlantic.net Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:27:11 -0400   It's still there at http:www.tunertech.com/msgboard.html. It was = probably overloaded with people trying to find that perfect organ. I know. I just bought a Baldwin D911, but I'm always looking at others. Just like a boat owner, who is always getting a bigger and better model. Paul   J. VANDERSTAD wrote:   > Good morning, folks > Does anyone know where the Church Organ Trader Message board disappeared > to? it's url was http://www.tunertech.com > Now, it seems to be the url of some sort of technical school. > Any leads will be appreciated. > Thanks. > Mr. Jan Vanderstad > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: Virgil Fox 1950s From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:31:25 +0100   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_001C_01BEEF41.2F370440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   I am trying to locate the title of a piece of music written for solo = =3D pedal that Virgil Fox played in a recital circa 1954/55 at St Mary's =3D Church, Redcliffe in Bristol UK. My Father, then a boy, recounts that =3D Virgil Fox was dressed in white, sporting a dark blue 'Dracularian' =3D cape! This piece, which has obviously made a lasting impression with my = =3D father, (apparently) ends with a (manual?) glissando! Those of you who =3D might know Virgil Fox, or might have an inkling as to what this work =3D might be, I would very much appreciate your help. Furthermore, I =3D apologise for the incredible lack of detail! =3D20 Edward =3D20 Edward, =3D20 If you have no luck, you could try writing to the Church - my uncle = =3D is the organist there and I'm sure he wouldn't mind checking the =3D archives, or getting someone else to do it!!! =3D20 Richard Pinel   ------=3D_NextPart_000_001C_01BEEF41.2F370440 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD>   <META content=3D3Dtext/html;charset=3D3Diso-8859-1 =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 =3D HTML//EN"> <META content=3D3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3D3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: = =3D 5px"> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>I am trying to locate the = title =3D of a piece=3D20 of music written for solo pedal that Virgil Fox played in a recital = =3D circa=3D20 1954/55 at St Mary's Church, Redcliffe in Bristol UK. My Father, =3D then a boy,=3D20 recounts that Virgil Fox was dressed in white, sporting a dark = blue=3D20 'Dracularian' cape! This piece, which has obviously made a = lasting=3D20 impression with my father, (apparently) ends with a (manual?) =3D glissando!=3D20 Those of you who might know Virgil Fox, or might have an inkling as = =3D to what=3D20 this work might be, I would very much appreciate your help. =3D Furthermore, I=3D20 apologise for the incredible lack of detail!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Edward</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>Edward,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>If you have no luck, you could = =3D try writing=3D20 to the Church - my uncle is the organist there and I'm sure he =3D wouldn't mind=3D20 checking the archives, or getting someone else to do =3D it!!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>Richard=3D20 Pinel</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_001C_01BEEF41.2F370440--    
(back) Subject: Re: Virgil Fox 1950s From: dougcampbell@juno.com Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:19:26 -0400       On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:16:10 +0100 "Edward Marsh" <edmarsh@lineone.net> writes: >I am trying to locate the title of a piece of music written for solo >pedal that Virgil Fox played in a recital circa 1954/55 at St Mary's >Church, Redcliffe in Bristol UK. My Father, then a boy, recounts that >Virgil Fox was dressed in white, sporting a dark blue 'Dracularian' >cape! This piece, which has obviously made a lasting impression with >my father, (apparently) ends with a (manual?) glissando! Those of you >who might know Virgil Fox, or might have an inkling as to what this >work might be, I would very much appreciate your help. Furthermore, I >apologise for the incredible lack of detail! > >Edward   Perpetum Mobile - by Middleschuttle ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.  
(back) Subject: Home from OHS Montreal From: ScottFop@aol.com Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:26:37 EDT   I am just going through much email having just returned from the OHS convention in Montreal. For three days before that I went on retreat at = the Abbey-Monastery of St. Benoit du Lac. Dom Andre LaBerge, one of the convention artists, is the organist there and he gave us a full tour. A magnificent player and ever so gracious gentleman, he showed us the new Wilhelm organ being installed in the Abbey chapel. It is three manuals = and 59 ranks (the exact number of stops escapes my memory at the moment). It looks as if it will be a beautiful instrument when finished and my days = there were relaxing, meditative and restful. I have never experienced such serenity and peace in my life!   Then it was on to Montreal for the convention. The Renaissance Hotel du = Parc was indeed very nice and comfortable. It was great finally meeting many = list members and some new friends from Detroit that I didn't even know would be =   attending. Instead of going through a listing of EVERY instrument and = piece played, I will mention afew of my own personal highlights, and they are = not listed in any prioritized order. (Those of you who know me will not be surprised).   Eglise du Tres-Saint-Nom-de-Jesus Large 4 manual Casavant, 1915 (Phillip Crozier and Sylvie Poirier played = in duet)   Basilique de Notre Dame HUGE 4 manual Casavant, 1890 (Pierre Grandmaison and Ken Cowan both played) I have NEVER heard an instrument with so much sonic presence "in the room" = as this organ. It was absolutely overwhelming and oh so exciting to = experience in person. Epcot's theatre-in-the-round does not BEGIN to come close to = the real thing! One simply must stand in that magnificent and beautiful Victorian church and see and hear it for themselves.   Le Gesu another monster 4 manual Casavant, 1901 in the gallery (Aline Letendre played) and a one manual Mitchell and Forte, 1866, in the crossing = (played by Luc Beausejour). Both instruments are VERY nice!   Eglise de Saint-Leon de Westmont Guilbault-Therien, 1995 (played by Lucienne L'Heureux and Gaston Arel)   Christ Church Anglican Cathedral Karl Wilhelm, 1980 (played by John Oldengarm) nice instrument but lacking in pedal sound, one of the nicer trackers   Church of St. John the Evangelist (Anglo Catholic) Wolff and Associes, Ltee., 1984 (played by Danielle Dube) very nice organ and tonal qualities in a very beautiful church   St. Thomas Anglican Church Joseph Walker Barrel Organ, 1844 (played by cranking and pedaling) a really cool and fun little organ!!!   Eglise Immaculee Conception Rudolf Von Beckerath, 1961 (BEAUTIFULLY played by Bernard Lagace) *of the three Von Beckeraths featured, this instrument was by far the = "star." L'Oratoire Saint-Joseph (1960 Von Beckerath played by Raymond Daveluy and Rachel Laurin) was, to me personally, a BIG disappointment, and many = others also shared this same sentiment unfortunately. That is- it was a big disappointment to my ears in comparison to its sister organ in St. Paul's Cathedral in Pittsburgh- which seems to have a much bigger, fuller and = more robust sound that L'Oratoire. (Sorry Mr. LaMirande, but it was nowhere = near what was expected.) St. Andrew's-Dominion Douglas United Church (1959 Von =   Beckerath played by John Grew) was a total waste of time in my opinion and =   that of several others.   Cathedrale Saint-Hyacinthe-Le-Confesseur Casavant Opus 8, 1885 (MAGNIFICENTLY played byJean-Guy Proulx) a FANTASTIC, original Casavant with an exceptionally beautiful tone in a = drop dead gorgeous room, complete with gold leafing and crystal chandeliers! = BUT- we really got the short end of the shaft on this one! We only heard two pieces plus a hymn on this organ but were hauled around the Canadian = country side hearing every one manual and three stop tracker known to mankind! = THIS organ in the St. Hyacinthe Cathedral should have been played for a FULL LENGTH, complete recital instead of whisking us in and whisking us out = again quickly. (Note that we DID get a complete recital with two halves at L'Oratoire and at the chapel of the Grand Seminaire- the latter of which = is STILL making my ears ring and my head hurt- but we got the absolute bare minimum at St. Hyacinthe. And that truly is a pity- believe me! What IS = the reasoning behind this I ask you???)   The tours of the Casavant, Letourneau and Guilbault-Therien factories were = a wonderful diversion and we saw many great things there. At = Guilbault-Therien we saw a sumptuous 3 manual French terraced-style console newly built for = a cathedral church which is, I believe, in Ottawa. (The exact location slips = my mind at the moment). Very nice console!!! At Casavant I saw and played a large 3 manual tracker (very romantic and warm) and an even larger 3 = manual electro-pneumatic- both in erecting rooms. I also made the acquaintances = of Simon Couture and Stanley Scheer. Casavant is indeed doing some very fine =   things and exciting building and it was a pleasure to be able to see their =   venerable factory and try out some of the very newest instruments!   Eglise Saint-Jean-Baptiste another monster 4 manual Casavant, 1915 (BIG grin!) =3Do) played by Jacques Boucher and in a really beautiful, really interesting = and indescribably HUGE barn of a church   Abbaye Cistercienne Notre-Dame-du-Lac Helmuth Wolff, 1973, SPECTACULARLY played by Dom Andre LaBerge   As a last note, the old syndrome of "on the bus," "off the bus," "on the bus," "off the bus" is typical for conventions but everyone seemed to have = a great time nonetheless. The dinner cruise on the Cavalier Maxim was quite =   enjoyable and relaxing- and it was very interesting seeing Montreal and = the beautiful surrounding countryside from the middle of the At. Lawrence = River.   It was great to see the Roman Catholic churches with their high altars = still in the CORRECT and original locations, and in a few of the churches the Celebrant once again FACES the high altar with his back to the congregation!!!! (And this was pointed out to me by a Clergyman!) A = glimmer of hope here, perhaps?? And in these huge churches most (if not all) of = the original and beautiful decor is still intact. It seems that people in = Canada and also in many European countries did not see Vatican II as a chance to throw out their heritage's along with every semblance of beauty, ritual, tradition and solemnity as we Americans unfortunately did by turning many = of our churches into an absolute free-for-all where chaos reigneth supreme, = in many cases. AND there is a very noticeable LACK of carpet and seat = cushions- ALL THROUGHOUT the churches we saw!   However- I must draw the line at being forced to eat like a rabbit all = week. ALL of the included meals were vegetarian and I was offended by being made = to either eat very unfulfilling "rabbit food" or go out and pay yet even MORE =   money for other meals because the included ones were such garbage. I = resent this kind of treatment being forced on myself and the entire convention = just because Madamme Chairperson is a vegetarian, and BELIEVE ME when I say = that I am NOT alone in this sentiment by ANY long shot. 'Nuf said.   But, other than countless plates of lettuce and sprouts, overly enunciated =   "chiff" and more trackers than one can shake a stick at- it was a great = week and I love Montreal! <giggle>   Scott Foppiano   PS- those of you who don't know me as well as "those of you who know me," = as I stated at the beginning of this little epistle, now understand what I = meant about my favorite instruments. I do very much enjoy the large symphonic Casavants we heard over the majority of the trackers- though they all have =   something to offer.  
(back) Subject: Re: Church Organ Trader message board From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 02:51:58 EDT   In a message dated 8/26/99 10:16:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, prswank@impop.bellatlantic.net writes:   << http:www.tunertech.com/msgboard.html. >> Morning everybody---I still cannot locate the Church Organ bulletin board site,,for me,,the above address returns to "keyword not found" and the former address returns to a High School in Florida just as Jan Vanderstad found. Anyone have any ideas???? Cheers, ---Roc  
(back) Subject: Re: Church Organ Trader message board From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 00:53:49 -0700   At 02:51 AM 8/27/1999 EDT, you wrote: > ><< http:www.tunertech.com/msgboard.html. >> >Morning everybody---I still cannot locate the Church Organ bulletin board =   >site,,for me,,the above address returns to "keyword not found" >and the former address returns to a High School in Florida just as Jan >Vanderstad found. >Anyone have any ideas????   It's obvious. Some doofus has "tunertech" redirected to "turnertech".   DeserTBoB