PipeChat Digest #1050 - Tuesday, August 31, 1999
 
Re: Small home pipe organ?
  by "antoni scott" <ascott@epix.net>
Holyoke MA church burned
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re: Holyoke MA church burned
  by "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com>
Re: What pieces are these?
  by "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com>
Re: Holyoke MA church burned
  by "Blaine Ricketts" <blaineri@home.com>
Re: Holyoke MA church burned
  by "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com>
Municipal Mollers: An extant example few know about.
  by "Will Scarboro" <whs1325@garnet.acns.fsu.edu>
Test
  by "Sandra" <bes298@worldnet.att.net>
Re: Suggestions needed for Organ Dedication
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Being an organist
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
National Shrine Kilgen Restoration Update
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: Municipal Mollers: An extant example few know about.
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
What music is this?
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Small home pipe organ? From: antoni scott <ascott@epix.net> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:48:14 -0400   Hi Michael:   I investigated the same posibilities myself. I ended up buying an old organ ( 15 rank Estey) and rebuilding it myself. It was a wonderful experience since I had to move a lot of stuff around. I made my own facade pipes from the bottom 17 pipes of the 8 foot Diapason. I replaced about four of the 15 ranks with some better stuff from yet another old organ. The end result was better than the original.   In regards to your question about reservoir placement. I would be careful about this one. If the reservoir is too far away the pitch will momentarily drop when you hit full organ or play a big pedal pipe. They have what they call "concussion bellows" that can be spliced into the feed line to the windchests. I have found that if you use a wind line as big as you can manage, the volume of air inside the wind line will make up for some of this.   I would suggest that you have TWO smaller reservoirs in the basement, one for the manual divisions and one for the pedal alone.My original reservoir was 8' x 4' and due to space limitations I replaced it with a 4' x 4'. But it was not as effective. Be careful. The concussion bellows will definitely help.     Antoni   Michael Robertson wrote: > > Hi. > > I'm building a new home and would like to place a small pipe organ in a > room that's 19' high, with floor dimensions of 18' x 32'. The bellows > could go down in a dry, heated basement. Is that realistic? > > Does anyone know of organ builders who sell pipe organs that small? The > Wicks Web pages had a small practice organ. Do you think the Organ > Clearinghouse > (http://www.organclearinghouse.com/instruments/index.html) is a > possibility? > > Thanks, > Michael Robertson, > Rochester, New York > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Holyoke MA church burned From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:01:24 -0400   A notice in the morning paper is that Our Lady of Perpetual Help RC on Elm Street in Holyoke MA was destroyed by fire yesterday. This large French-Canadian church was beautifully decorated and contained a Ted Gilbert organ 1982 2M. 43R. with an additional console in the front left = of the sanctuary. This organ contained a small amount of pipework from the original organ, Casavant tracker Opus 63, installed in 1895 in the old church and moved to this building. This was the first Casavant to be sold in the USA. The present organ also contained old pipework from a Hall rebuild, as well as Estey and other materials. Regardless of its various materials, it was a gem to listen to and spoke well in the spacious acoustics. The Worcester AGO Cahpter Fall Organ Crawl visited this church in 1994. A school building also burned to the ground, leaving only the rectory standing. It was the new pastor's first day at this parish. The fire started in a nearby vacant building and destroyed six buildings.   Judy Ollikkala  
(back) Subject: Re: Holyoke MA church burned From: "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:47:59 -0400   Hi Judy,   Many thanks for the notice. My husband and I visited the church on Saturday, August 21st, during an overnight stop in Holyoke on our way to Maine. It was a beautiful edifice with, as you stated, great acoustics. What a loss!!   Best regards,   Bonnie Beth Derby Producer & Host ``Orgelwerke'' & ``Choral Traditions'' WCNY-FM, 91.3; Syracuse; WUNY-FM, 89.5, Utica; WJNY-FM, 90.9, Watertown Organist, First Church of Christ, Scientist, Syracuse orge@dreamscape.com   ----- Original Message ----- From: Judy A. Ollikkala <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Subject: Holyoke MA church burned     > A notice in the morning paper is that Our Lady of Perpetual Help RC on = Elm > Street in Holyoke MA was destroyed by fire yesterday. This large > French-Canadian church was beautifully decorated and contained a Ted > Gilbert organ 1982 2M. 43R. with an additional console in the front left of > the sanctuary.....it was a gem to listen to and spoke well in the = spacious > acoustics. The Worcester AGO Cahpter Fall Organ Crawl visited this = church > in 1994. A school building also burned to the ground, leaving only the > rectory standing. It was the new pastor's first day at this parish. = The > fire started in a nearby vacant building and destroyed six buildings. >      
(back) Subject: Re: What pieces are these? From: "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:19:26 -0400   Hello Jefferson,   The name of ``Theme 2'' on your list is the Prelude No. 2 on `Rhosymedre', from ``Three Preludes founded on Welsh Hymn Tunes'' by the Welsh/British composer Ralph Vaughan Williams. It is published (at least my copy is) by Stainer & Bell, Ltd. of London, England and can probably be ordered by any sheet music store.   Best regards,   Bonnie Beth Derby Producer & Host ``Orgelwerke'' & ``Choral Traditions'' WCNY-FM, 91.3; Syracuse; WUNY-FM, 89.5, Utica; WJNY-FM, 90.9, Watertown Organist, First Church of Christ, Scientist, Syracuse orge@dreamscape.com   ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Stanway <jstanway@mail.island.net> Subject: Re: What pieces are these?     > Hello Group; > > Back a couple of years I listened to an organ performance on the radio, and > now would like to identify some of the music. Both pieces I have in = mind > are variations on a theme. The note sequences are as follows, with beat > count below the note: > > Theme 2: (cut time) > D G G F# G A B C1 D1 D1 C1 D B1 E1 D1 C1 C1 B C1 A D1 C1 B B A B > 2 2 1 1 4 2 2 2 2 1 1 4 2 2 2 2 1 1 4 2 2 2 2 1 1 2 > > Thanks to anybody who can regognize these. I wolud also like to find = the > sheet music. > > Jefferson SGS.      
(back) Subject: Re: Holyoke MA church burned From: Blaine Ricketts <blaineri@home.com> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:00:13 -0700       "Judy A. Ollikkala" wrote:   > A notice in the morning paper is that Our Lady of Perpetual Help RC on = Elm > Street in Holyoke MA was destroyed by fire yesterday. This large   In what paper did you see this? I looked in the Worcester papers on the = net but saw nothing.   Let us know if the paper has a web site.   Thanks,   Blaine Ricketts Castro Valley, CA        
(back) Subject: Re: Holyoke MA church burned From: "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:24:35 -0400   I looked the article up on WWLP news and they listed two pictures, one = with the church in flames. Their website is www.wwlp.com/news/localnews/index.html   Regards,   Bonnie Beth Derby orge@dreamscape.com   ----- Original Message ----- From: Blaine Ricketts <blaineri@home.com> Subject: Re: Holyoke MA church burned     > "Judy A. Ollikkala" wrote: > > > A notice in the morning paper is that Our Lady of Perpetual Help RC on Elm > > Street in Holyoke MA was destroyed by fire yesterday.   > In what paper did you see this? I looked in the Worcester papers on the net but saw nothing. > Let us know if the paper has a web site. > > Thanks, > > Blaine Ricketts      
(back) Subject: Municipal Mollers: An extant example few know about. From: Will Scarboro <whs1325@garnet.acns.fsu.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:55:23 -0400     Dear list members,   To follow my recent post on the two lost Mollers, I thought I would share =   with you the specification of another municipal Moller that few know = about. Of course most of you should be familiar with the Philadelphia Moller. Especially if you've attended the recent Philadelphia conventions of the ATOS or OHS. But this organ built in 1919 is probably unfamiliar. But first for a convention it now resides in the Municipal Auditorium in Evansville, Indiana. The organ is mostly intact and is in fair condition. Below I present the stoplist and specification for Moller opus 2626.   Sincerely,   Will Scarboro   Will Scarboro, Organ Historian American Municipal Pipe Organ Research Project 1996 OHS E. Power Biggs Fellow Student - Florida State University School of Music Home of the Mighty Holtkamp   Moller-2626 1919 Memorial Coliseum-Evansville, IN     MOLLER Opus 2626, 4 Manuals, 53 Ranks,1919 Memorial Coliseum Evansville, Indiana GREAT (Man.2) (10" w.p.) 1 Open Diapason 16' (leathered) 13-24 wood, 1-12 missing 2 Bourdon 16' wood 3 1st. Open Diapason 8' from # 1 4 2nd. Open Diapason 8' 1-12 wood 5 Geigen Principal 8' 1-12 wood 6 Gross Flute 8' wood 7 Gamba 8' 1-12 wood 8 Clarabella 8' wood 9 Flute Celeste 8' (tenor C) wood 10 Gedeckt 8' from #2 11 Gemshorn 8' changed 1932, was Doppel Flute 12 Octave 4' from #4 13 Harmonic Flute 4' 14 Flute d'Amour 4' from#6 15 Gemshorn 4' from#11 16 Harmonic Piccolo 2' from#13 17 Mixture 3rks. (1rk,2-2/3) from#7and#17 18 Trumpet 16' 1-12 missing 19 Trumpet 8' from #18 20 Tuba Profunda 16' from Solo #65 21 Harmonic Tuba 8' from Solo #66 22 Clarion 4' from Solo #67   ECHO (Man.2) (10" w.p.) 23 Open Diapason 8' 1-12 wood 24 Gross Flute 8' wood 25 Gamba 8' 1-12 wood 26 Gamba Celeste 8' (tenor c) 27 Melodia 8' wood 28 Gemshorn 8' 1-12 wood 29 Octave 4' from #23 30 Gambette 4' from #25 31 Flute 4' from #27 32 Tuba (harmonic from tenor c) 33 Tremulant 34 Chimes 21 notes AA-f   SWELL (Man.3) (10" w.p.)   35 Contra Viole 16' 1-12 wood 36 Gedeckt 16' wood 37 Diapason Phonon 8' (leathered) 1-12 wood 38 Open Diapason 8' 1-12 wood 39 Viole d'Gamba 8' 40 Flute Traverso 8' wood 41 Viola 8' from #35 42 Stopped Diapason 8' from #36 43 Viole d'Orchestre 8' 44 Viole Celeste 8' (tenor c) 45 Spitz Flute 8' 1-12 wood 46 Salicional 8' 47 Octave 4' from #38 48 Wald Flute 4' wood 49 Flute 4' from #40 50 Salicet 4' from #46 51 Flageolet 2' from #48 52 Dolce Cornet 3rks. (1rk.,2-2/3') from #43 and #52 53 Contra Fagotto 16' 54 Cornopean 8' 55 Fagotto 8' from #53 56 Vox Humana 8' 57 Clarion 4' from #54 58 Tremulant   SOLO (Man.4) (10"w.p.)   59 Stentorphone 8' (leathered) 1-12 =   wood 60 Philomela 8' (25-49 missing) wood 61 Cello 8' 62 Vibrant String 8' 63 Flute 4' from #60 64 Cor Anglais 8' 65 Tuba Profunda 16' (25"w.p.) 1-36 wood resonators, harmonic at #43, double harmonic at #54 66 Harmonic Tuba 8' from #65 67 Clarion 4' from #65 68 Tremulant             CHOIR (Man.1) (10" w.p.)   69 Quintaten 16' 1-24 wood 70 Open Diapason 8' 1-12 wood 71 Geigan Principal 8' (sic.) 1-12 wood 72 Concert Flute 8' (harmonic) wood 73 Gemshorn 8' 1-12 wood 74 Quintadena 8' from #69 75 Dulciana 8' 1-12 wood 76 Octave 4' from #71 77 Hohl Flute 4' wood 78 Flute 4' from #72 79 Fugara 4' from #79 80 Piccolo 2' from #77 81 French Horn 8' 82 Orchestral Oboe 8' 83 Clarinet 8' (belled) 84 Tremulant 85 Harp (stopped wood resonators, 61n.)   PEDAL (10"w.p.)   86 Double Open Diapason 32' (1-5 25") 1-7 resultant, from GGGG wood 87 Contra Bourdon 32' 1-7 resultant, from GGGG wood 88 Open Diapason 16' from #86 89 Violone 16' from Great #5 90 Bourdon 16' from #87 91 Contra Viole 16' from Swell #35 92 Octave Bass 8' from #86 93 Cello 8' from Solo #61 and 62 94 Flute 8' from #87 95 Contra Bombarde 32' from Solo #65 96 Tuba Profunda 16' from Solo #65 97 Contra Fagotto 16' from Swell #53 98 Harmonic Tuba 8' from Solo #65 99 Clarion 4' from Solo #65 100 Echo Bourdon 16' wood 101 Echo Flute 8' from #100   COUPLERS   Pedal Octaves Great to Pedal Great to Pedal 4' Swell to Pedal Swell to Pedal 4'Choir to Pedal Choir to Pedal 4' Couplers (Continued)   Solo to Pedal Solo to Pedal 4' Great 4' Swell to Great Swell to Great 4' Swell to Great 16' Choir to Great Choir to Great 4' Choir to Great 16' Solo to Great Swell 4' Swell 16' Choir to Swell Choir to Swell 4' Choir to Swell 16' Solo to Swell Choir 4' Choir 16' Swell to Choir Swell to Choir 4' Swell to Choir 16'   Solo 4' Solo 16' Swell to Solo Swell to Solo 4' Swell to Solo 16'   COMBINATION ACTION Great and Echo 1-8 Swell 1-8 Choir 1-8 Solo 1-8 Pedal 1-8 Full Organ 1-6 Setter   CHEEK BUTTONS Unison Off/On for Swell, Choir, Solo Stage Shades On/Both/Off Great On/Both/Echo On     BALLANCED PEDALS Great and Choir Swell Solo Echo Crescendo   TOE LEVERS Pedal pistons 1-8 (duplicate) Full organ pistons 1-6 (duplicate) Setter (duplicate) Great to Pedal Reversible Sforzondo Reversible Indicator lamps for; Voltage (w/push button to activate) Crescendo (5 lamps) Sforzondo Voltmeter   3 standard switches for blowers; left.....Solo and Swell 10 hp 2 stage Kinetic single phase right...Great and Choir 7-1/2hp Kinetic single phase echo..................................3hp Kinetic single phase    
(back) Subject: Test From: Sandra <bes298@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:59:55 -0400   New to the mailing this this is a test.  
(back) Subject: Re: Suggestions needed for Organ Dedication From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:26:43 +0100     >I don't know about the Langlais (I presume you're talking about the Messe >Solenelle and not the Missa In Simplicitate), but the Grand (2me) Orgue part for >the Vierne used to be available from Presser arranged for brass quartet >(quintet?). I've done it that way, and it's FUN. Put your brass at some distance >(gallery? transcept?) from the chorus and orgue d' choeur. If I'm not mistaken, >there's also an arrangement for one organ. I say with one organ, I mean one organist!!! We have a choir organ (2m) = and a Gallery one (3m - the great & pedal are playable from the choir) so one organist can play it antiphonally!!!   Richard    
(back) Subject: Re: Being an organist From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:14:07 +0100   >the organ was a three manual tracker can you tell us more about the organ??     Thanks for all the encouragement.   The organ: I didn't catch the builder, but here goes!: Great: 16' Contra Diap (Lush!) 8' Open Diap 1 8' Open Diap 2 8' Wald Flute 4' Principal 4' Flute 2' Fifteenth 4r Mixture - very prominent cornet in this (I forget the exact mutations = for this) 8' Trumpet - will knock your socks off!   Swell - Great Choir - Great (was very heavy to pull out - made nice loud clunks too!)   Swell (enclosed): 16' Bourdon 8' Open Diapason 8' Stopped Diapason 8' Kerolophone (early type of string, sounds a bit like a Vox Celeste only in tune!) 8' Vox Angelica (very nice I'm sure, but it didn't work!) 4' Principal 2' Principal 16' Contra Fagot 8' Cornopean 8' Something (Basically a trumpet but with a very weird name! Also the = fancy writing was hard to read!) 8' Vox Humana - [;pleasant   Tremulant (didn't work)   Choir: 8' Dulciana (quiet and very nice) 8' Gamba 8' Flute 4' Flute 2' Fifteenth 8' Cremona (very very nice!)   Swell - Choir (made the action very heavy, if Swell - Great out you can = see the great keys move aswell, although it didn't actually play the great)   Pedal: 16' Contra Diapason (nice beefy bass!) 16' Bourdon 8' Violonetta (Loud!) 16' Something (Horrible and weedy!)   Great - Pedal Swell - Pedal Choir - Pedal   Swell box is the old fashioned leaver at the right hand side, push down to open, and kick the support stick out of the way the let the leaver go back up to close!!!   Registration aids: 3 Non Settable Composition pedals to Swell 3 Non Settable Composition pedals to Great (useful for hymns etc)   The action was very heavy, and my legs were tired afterwards!   Hope this is enough info,   Richard   P.S If anyone is ever in Northampton, say and I will give you an organ tour!!!    
(back) Subject: National Shrine Kilgen Restoration Update From: ScottFop@aol.com Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:34:35 EDT   I was delighted to return from almost two weeks in Canada to find the wonderful progress and continuing work on the Kilgen which had been = completed in my absence.   I suppose that the biggest bit of news is that the entire organ is now = once again under expression! the expression shades for the Main Great (and corresponding Pedal) chamber were reinstalled and retrofitted with the = last of six brand new Peterson 16-stage expression engines. Boy are those = little babies powerful! Anyway- surprisingly the tone of that division was not = in any way diminished or blocked by the return of the long absent shades. And =   with this being my first totally expressive instrument- I can now see the endless symphonic possibilities!   Also, the Solo tremulant (long dead) was rebuilt and releathered. The = huge strings and Flauto Mirabilis really sing out now when they are used with trem, of course they sound great without trem too- it just depends on the application. But, the Gross Gedeckt (which is actually a Kilgen #2-scale = Solo Tibia Clausa according to the contract) is really a hoot to play now!   When it and the 4' Flute are added to my General 10 (full slush) it is = truly a theatre organ!!!! Latest historical musings that have gotten back to me = are that Fr. Coughlin loved theatre organs and that's why there are so many celestes, two voxes and four tonal percussions. But he also knew that he would need a large and complete "Liturgical" instrument as well. So- I'd = say that we have the best of BOTH worlds. Our Tibia, incidentally, can be = very closely compared to the Foundation Chamber Tibia Clausa at the Fox Theatre =   downtown- it has that breathy and almost "gasping" dramatic, rich tone = with much harmonic development. It really is pretty. Gee- working THAT into Liturgical use might be a challenge! In fact, this morning Roger Mumbrue = and I were at the downstairs console as "Stars Fell On Alabama" made its was = out of the chambers and we just looked at each other and larfed and larfed and =   larfed! <giggle>   By the way- the Foundation Chamber at the Fox is the upper left chamber = for those of you who know the big Wurlitzer.   The old Kilgen relays and big pneumatic expression engines have been = removed- giving MUCH needed access room in all chambers now.   The work progresses.............   Scott Foppiano  
(back) Subject: Re: Municipal Mollers: An extant example few know about. From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:58:41 -0700   At 04:55 PM 8/30/1999 -0400, Will Scarboro wrote: >B(uil)t first for a convention it now resides in the Municipal Auditorium = in >Evansville, Indiana. The organ is mostly intact and is in fair condition. =   >Below I present the stoplist and specification for Moller opus 2626.   Ah, yes. My dad, while in the USAAF in WW II, was stationed at the air = base north of Evansville for some time, and both my mother and dad remember = this instrument. I've also heard it, since I was in Evansville for a brief = stay in the '70s. Typically a "wooly" mammoth of the pre-reform period, with = no real principal chorus, I seem to remember it having some quite lovely solo voices. The unification of principals and the ubiquitous pedal extensions are de riguer for the times, and does show how much Hope-Jones' = unification ideas reached into instruments other than those in the theater. Still, I would consider any municipality that has this organ in its public = auditorium to be quite lucky, indeed.   Bob Scarborough    
(back) Subject: What music is this? From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 01:04:04 -0400   The second piece is "Rhosymedre" by Ralph Vaughan Williams. Haven't figured out the otyher two yet.   Judy Ollikkala