PipeChat Digest #1182 - Sunday, December 5, 1999
 
Re: Need Pipes
  by <FiveManual@aol.com>
Re: Need Pipes
  by <NFexec@aol.com>
For those into Theatre Organ Concerts
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@post.queensu.ca>
Re: Tracker action with electronic registration...
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
sticky sliders, etc.
  by "Bud" <Quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Top 10 Lists
  by "Rev. Ed" <edwardorgan@hotmail.com>
Re: Query -- Greenfield Village, Mich.
  by "Rev. Ed" <edwardorgan@hotmail.com>
Re: Top 10 Lists
  by "Jill Schultheis" <nachthorn@hotmail.com>
Re: Top 10 Lists
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: Top 10 Lists
  by "Jill Schultheis" <nachthorn@hotmail.com>
Re: Top 10 Lists
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
consoles old and new
  by "Bud" <Quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: consoles old and new
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Need Pipes From: <FiveManual@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 09:45:39 EST   I have a 3 1/2 Vox in nice shape made by Reuter and a E.M. Skinner 4' = Stopped Bourdon. I would be willing to sell both. Mark fivemanual@aol.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Need Pipes From: <NFexec@aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 09:50:51 EST   Dear List...   I personally have no objections to members posting classifieds, but = when one is responding to a request, please do it privately. We have enough unnecessary email out there as it is. Thank you very much!   Doug  
(back) Subject: For those into Theatre Organ Concerts From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 11:06:14 -0500   Last night we lucky people in Kingston, Ontario, were able to hear the = very talented blind organist Candi Curley-Roth from Pennsylvania perform on our Kimball. This organ is said to be the largest theatre pipe organ in = Canada with its three manual 26 ranks. It is a 70 year old organ, originally installed in 1928 in the State Theatre in Youngstown, Ohio, and brought to Kingston in a rather sorry state in 1981.   Since that time it has had many face-lifts, and at the present time it has probably never sounded better, fully maintained by the Organ Crew of the Kingston Theatre Organ Society, who installed it into the Church of the Redeemer soon after they had acquired it, and had a major rebuild in = 1991. The voicing was done in 1996 by Clark Wilson and Brant Duddy, after improvements to the electronic control components were carried out by Artisan Classic Organ Inc. of Markham, Ontario.   So much for the organ, now to Candi Curley-Roth's Christmas Special = Concert of last night. She is a very well rounded artiste, perhaps more at home with Boogie and Pop music, but she played some of the Christmas Carols = with a new twist on them by introducing the tune as we normally might hear it, and then, as she puts it, doing a few variations on it! Most were very effective, but what really brought the house down was her boogie beat = numbers!   I had no real qualms about her treatment of the carols, and it wasn't her fault that the arrangement of "Ave Maria" was inevitably over sugary! That's what the customers expect, and that's what they got. Her improvisations on "Little drummer boy" brought in all the traps and the kitchen sink too!   However, she also sang about three of her numbers, - I think that she should stick to organ playing! To my ears she sound like an over-enthusiastic, but untrained high school girl, - but that my only my opinion, for one of the people that I was with was delighted with her = singing!   if you ever get the chance to hear Candi Carley-Roth make sure that you go to see her, - I am not a complete theatre organ fan, but I enjoyed what = she had to offer lasr night! If only all organ recitals or concerts were as much fun!   Bob Conway ...  
(back) Subject: Re: Tracker action with electronic registration... From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 07:16:01 -0000   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0049_01BF3E27.6B1A5E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Is this possible, or, am I having a "pipe dream?" =3D20 This happens quite a lot. =3D20   At St John's college, Cambridge the organ is completely tracker, event =3D the stop knobs. For some reason they have to be pulled out very to work, = =3D and the pistons don't always work either.   Richard   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0049_01BF3E27.6B1A5E00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD>   <META content=3D3Dtext/html;charset=3D3Diso-8859-1 =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 =3D HTML//EN"><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <META content=3D3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE>   </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: = =3D 5px"> <DIV>Is this possible, or, am I having a &quot;pipe =3D dream?&quot;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>This happens quite a =3D lot.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>At St John's college, Cambridge = the =3D organ is=3D20 completely tracker, event the stop knobs. For some reason they have to =3D be pulled=3D20 out very to work, and the pistons don't always work either.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>Richard</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0049_01BF3E27.6B1A5E00--    
(back) Subject: sticky sliders, etc. From: "Bud" <Quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 09:27:25 -0800   Richard refers to the organ at Cambridge ... I don't recall the details of that instrument offhand, but if it has slider motors inserted so that the stops can be pulled manually as well as by a combination action, then it's possible that binding sliders in damp weather (etc.) would prevent the slider motors from pulling the stops ... that's one of the problems with a dual action ... NO slider motor can overcome an INFINITE amount of resistance ... if they're pneumatic, they just don't work; if they're totally electric, they just burn out (grin).   Which brings me back to my original premise that it is better to have all-mechanical "machine stops" and/or ventils in a small to medium-sized tracker church organ. Machine stops CAN be made adjustable ... the Fisk/Flentrop in Mt. Calvary, Baltimore has such a set-up ... a quarter-turn on the stop-knob locks it onto the combination pedal. And ventils are flexible as well ... they bring on whatever you have drawn on the Jeu de Combinasion side of the windchest ... that can be anything from the 4' Prestant to "Full to Mixtures" to a single chorus reed to the full reed chorus.   Once again, 90% of the music we play was composed for organs with VERY limited registrational aids.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Top 10 Lists From: "Rev. Ed" <edwardorgan@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 17:36:42 PST   How about adding: Richard Unfried-former organist for the Crystal Cathedral. I have never heard hymn modulations better than those before or since!   Rev. E.D. edwardorgan@hotmail.com     >Here is my top 10 list of organists. I haven't heard very many classiacl >organists so this contains alot of theatre people. > >1. Virgil Fox >2. Diane Bish >3. Carlo Curley >4. Jesse Crawford >5. George Wright >6. Dick Leibert >7. Reginold Dixon >8. Lyn Larsen >9. Fred Swann >10. Robert Hope-Jones   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Query -- Greenfield Village, Mich. From: "Rev. Ed" <edwardorgan@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 17:49:14 PST         >I visited Greenfield Village in Dearborn, Mich., with my family long = before >most of you listers were probably born. There is a strong possibility = that >a >young friend of mine may be married in the Mary-Martha Chapel there next >summer. He was there over Thanksgiving and brought back a guidebook -- = and >it >looks like there is perhaps a small electronic in the front of the room >near >the chancel. My friend heard that possibly a new pipe organ is going in >there >sometime soon. I would appreciate a private response from anyone who = might >know what is there currently and/or what might be in the works for this >chapel.   >Dudel, I will be singing in this chapel on Monday Dec.6. I will tell you = what kind of organ is there after that engagement.   I thought I heard that Wigton Pipe Organ Co. is building a tracker for = that chapel. Again, Details at 11:00!   Rev. E.D. Edwardorgan@hotmail.com   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Top 10 Lists From: "Jill Schultheis" <nachthorn@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 21:10:17 EST   my top ten list would *definately* start out with Fox. I grew up with his music(even though he died 2 years before I was born!). Then Biggs, Larsen and Crawford. Bish... eh, I think she's a pretty good organist, but I = credit her more with bringing the organ into the home. She does put on a pretty good program(not to mention imagining myself at the consoles of those = great European organs!). I don't know who else I would add.. I hate to pick favorites. :)   Jill     > > >How about adding: >Richard Unfried-former organist for the Crystal Cathedral. I have >never >heard hymn modulations better than those before or since! > >Rev. E.D. >edwardorgan@hotmail.com > > >Here is my top 10 list of organists. I haven't heard very many classiacl >organists so this contains alot of theatre people. > >1. Virgil Fox >2. Diane Bish >3. Carlo Curley >4. Jesse Crawford >5. George Wright >6. Dick Leibert >7. Reginold Dixon >8. Lyn Larsen >9. Fred Swann >10. Robert Hope-Jones         ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Top 10 Lists From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 18:45:58   At 05:36 PM 12/4/1999 PST, you wrote:   >>10. Robert Hope-Jones   What's HE doing on there? From all reports, he was a mediocre organist at best! And what he did to various organs here 'n there...ugh! = Fortunately, WurliTzer straightened some things out and the "unit orchestra" came into being as it did.   He was also pretty tough on secretaries...hehehe!   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: Re: Top 10 Lists From: "Jill Schultheis" <nachthorn@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 21:24:29 EST       >At 05:36 PM 12/4/1999 PST, you wrote:   >>10. Robert Hope-Jones   >What's HE doing on there? From all reports, he was a mediocre >organist = at >best! And what he did to various organs here 'n there...ugh! > >Fortunately, >WurliTzer straightened some things out and the "unit orchestra" came = >into >being as it did. > >He was also pretty tough on secretaries...hehehe! > >DeserTBoB   Well, he did come up with that slanted-manual thingie. I'll give him = credit for that.         ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Top 10 Lists From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 19:31:06   At 09:24 PM 12/4/1999 EST, you wrote:   >Well, he did come up with that slanted-manual thingie. I'll give him = credit >for that.<snip>   Actually, Hope-Jones' contributions to the organ were many. Spring-loaded regulators are common in all modern organs now, and were a first of his. Also, the "horseshoe" console is incredibly easy to play, and I still = favor it over the "more proper" looking drawknobs.   DeserTBoB  
(back) Subject: consoles old and new From: "Bud" <Quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 19:25:37 -0800       Bob Scarborough wrote:   > (snip)   > Also, the "horseshoe" console is incredibly easy to play, and I still = favor > it over the "more proper" looking drawknobs. > > DeserTBoB >   I find the coloured tabs to be somewhat of a help, but there's too much = writing on them (grin) ... and the curve takes some of the stops out of my vision = range with my computer/organ glasses on. But then I'm NOT a theatre organist = (grin) .... just played a few "transplants" in churches.   Speaking of consoles ... I wanna play that FABULOUS-LOOKING new = four-manual French-style Buzard console featured in this month's Diapason ... a = four-manual console you can actually SEE OVER to direct the choir! Wow!   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: consoles old and new From: "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 22:43:03   At 07:25 PM 12/4/1999 -0800, you wrote:   >I find the coloured tabs to be somewhat of a help, but there's too much writing >on them (grin)<snip>   Actually, the proper stopname, written in a stylized italic font, was never meant to be read "on the fly". WurliTzer devised the system of abbreviations in bold sans serif for that purpose...VOX, DIA, OBO, STR, and the like, along with the footage of the "stop"...a coupler actually, since these were unit organs. Red for reeds, in order of strength, white for general flues, mottled yellow for strings, black for couplers and generals...it's really quite a useful system! It sure beats sitting down to something like the Riverside Church or Columbia University =C6-S consoles and trying to find that nice little clarinet you've heard on a record once upon a time!!   > ... and the curve takes some of the stops out of my vision range >with my computer/organ glasses on.<snip>   Then, perhaps, you need the Howard seat! You can swivel to your heart's content..dangerously so, at times! LOLOL   DeserTBoB