PipeChat Digest #1207 - Wednesday, December 29, 1999
 
Re: Moller Artistes [was: Pipe Organ for sale on ebay] a  couple  of	exam
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: Moller Artistes [was: Pipe Organ for sale on ebay]
  by "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net>
Re: Moller Artistes [was: Pipe Organ for sale on ebay]
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Multilevel Memory Systems - X Posted
  by <ManderUSA@aol.com>
EveY2K
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Moller Artistes [was: Pipe Organ for sale on ebay]
  by "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com>
Re: Moller Artistes [was: Pipe Organ for sale on ebay]
  by "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com>
Widor composition
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: Widor composition
  by "Hans-Dieter Karras" <hans@hdkarras.de>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Moller Artistes [was: Pipe Organ for sale on ebay] a couple of examples From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 21:27:50 EST   In a message dated 99-12-28 15:40:45 EST, you write:   << I see that Moller Artiste and Double Artiste models are occasionally = offered for sale by various parties. Could anybody provide some general info = about just how these were configured (and/or what options were available) -- # manuals, stops, ranks, etc. for our collective edification? >> Magtthew, et al-   Moller artiste came in several "standard" configurations (In the 1970's = they called the 'Series 70' organs but a rose by any other name, etc, etc.   The most populous model was the three-rank unit which fit into a case as small as 7' high by 3' deep by 7.5 ' wide. The three ranks were : 1) a stoppered flute of 85 notes (16', 8', 4' 2 2/3 sometimes , and 2') 2 a viole set that played a 8', 4' sometimes 2 2/3, sometimes 2 3) a principal that played at 4' and sometimes 2.   often the viole also played a 1 1/3' (larigot) and the top octave was = wired 'back' to repeat the top 12 pitches.   The double artiste I service has:   Swell cabinet 8' Viole 73 notes (8' and 4') 8' Viol Celeste (tenor C, 49 notes) 16 Trumpet 85 notes (plays 16, 8, and 4 pitches in SW and 16 and 4 in = Ped)   Great Cabinet 4' Principal 16 Gedeckt (plays 16, 8, 4, 2 2/3, 2) 97 pipes 1 1/3 ;larigot independant 61 pipes     hope this helps   Rick Maryman Staunton VA  
(back) Subject: Re: Moller Artistes [was: Pipe Organ for sale on ebay] From: "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 21:57:11 -0500   >>4 stop- same as above with Trompette 8'-4'   The four-rank Artiste I played for two years ago had a Diapason, Flute, String and an Oboe. I would have loved to have a trompette. The church where I played (my first "paying" gig) was told by the organ service man that the organ would be just fine in the new sanctuary. The old chapel where the Artiste was sat 150, the new sanctuary sat 500. I ended up playing congregational hymns with full organ and up an octave! No one at that church ever told me I played too loudly.   I am, thanking you for the memory,   Yours,   Darryl by the Sea        
(back) Subject: Re: Moller Artistes [was: Pipe Organ for sale on ebay] From: "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 22:12:42 -0500 (EST)   I looked, but could not find my Artiste brochure, but as I recall, the Artiste was 3 ranks: 1. Open Diapason 8 61 pipes (13-73) (1-12 played Flute & String) 2. Stopped Flute 16 97 pipes 3. Salicional or Viola 8 85 pipes   Disposition: ---Great Open Diapason 8 Stopped Flute 8 Viola 8 Octave 4 #1 Flute 4 #2 Viola 4 #3 Twelfth 2-2/3 #3 Fifteenth 2 #3 Chimes (prep) Great to Great 4 Swell to Great 16 Swell to Great 8 Swell to Great 4   ---Swell Stopped Flute 8 Viola 8 Flute 4 Viola 4 Nazard 2-2/3 #2 Piccolo 2 #2 Oboe 8 (Viola 8, Flute 4, 2-2/3) Tremolo Swell to Swell 16 Unison Off Swell to Swell 4   ---Pedal Bourdon 16 Stopped Flute 8 Viola 8 Quint 5-1/3 (#3) Principal 4 Flute 4 Great to Pedal 8 Swell to Pedal 8 Swell to Pedal 4   I think a 4-rank Artiste was available with the addition of a Trompette or Oboe.   The double artiste separated 6-ranks into two cases for divided expression. I believe they were configured: Open Diapason 8 4 Stopped Flute 8 4 2-2/3 Dulciana 8 4 and Salicional 8 4 2 Celeste 8 (tc) Trompette 16 8 4   with the Pedal extended & duplexed. I don't think any artistes had pistons, until possibly the later ones, which had 5 generals only.   bruce cornely ~:~:~ rohrschok8@webtv.net gainesville, florida    
(back) Subject: Multilevel Memory Systems - X Posted From: <ManderUSA@aol.com> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 22:25:04 EST   In a message dated 12/28/99 5:32:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, desertbob@rglobal.net writes:   << Well, as one who learned on EP capture actions with NO memory, all this capability seems a little silly. I remember resetting all my generals = and divisionals between portions of a recital, and usually the old "5, 5, 5, = 5 and 5" grouping would be enough to get me through at least a few pieces before taking time in between for resetting. Usually, this would be an intermission point at a rather "grand" recital. >>   This is terribly reminiscent of a discussion on PipOrg-L some time ago = about Woolsey Hall at Yale, a huge instrument with the original Skinner = combination action, and certainly only one level of memory! The subject arose after someone had commented on the awkwardness of a recitalist there having to = come out (or send someone very trustworthy) to set pistons during intermission = for the second half of the program. Many felt that the kind of thought and planning that went into setting up registrations in that manner, and budgeting one's use of pistons intelligently, was a worthy discipline. The =   modernists thought rather that it was silly to deal with such = complications when modern conveniences are readily available. There was also a healthy enthusiasm for preserving intact the Skinner as it was in the beginning, = it being one of the few great instruments of its kind unaltered.   With new instruments, however, or with an instrument requiring extensive rebuilding with additions, it does seem a bit austere not to have some = levels of memory to ease one's way, but the system comes into its own where an instrument is played by more than one organist, or where there are = frequent recitalists. Our instrument at St. Ignatius Loyola, New York, played by = three regular organists, and by a host of recitalists, has 256 levels of memory. = A little chart near the console tells Music Director Kent Tritle, who has an =   enormous repertoire at his fingertips, that he can find the Franck A Minor =   Choral registered completely on level 40. The piston numbers in his score will correspond to those on that level perfectly. He reserves 100 memories =   for his own use. Nancianne Parrella, Associate Organist, also sets aside certain levels as her own, as does Michael Conley, Assistant Organist. Recitalists have approximately 40 levels for their own use, from the time = at which they first enter the building to plan for a recital.   At Princeton University, completed a couple of years before St. Ignatius, there are only 128 levels of memory, and with Joan Lippincott as Chapel Organist, and a long list of others who play regularly, this is barely enough. There is a directory at the console, and the levels are = individually lockable.   At St. Ignatius, we have discussed adding a sequencer system, and also introducing a keypad on which one could type in the level wanted, rather = than scrolling with the up or down button through the memories, even though the =   scrolling is actually very fast. It is also possible to have a card reader = at the console, so that registrations can be stored on a memory chip card, = and kept filed away from the console.   The Guilbault-Therien instrument in the chapel at the Brick Church (NY) = has an intriguing and impressive Windows-based touch screen system, which has some very clever and tremendously useful capabilities. Perhaps Keith Toth might be willing to describe this on the list.   Cheers from Chilly Connecticut   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com    
(back) Subject: EveY2K From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 23:38:20 -0500   My Bostonian friend explained why it may not be advisable to run your computers on New Years Eve: a power surge could possibly wipe everything out on the hard drive and ruin any other programs you may have.   I wanted to clarify my first advisory.   Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.............     Rick dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net http://www.svs.net/Dutch        
(back) Subject: Re: Moller Artistes [was: Pipe Organ for sale on ebay] From: "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 00:14:14 -0500   This is all very interesting because Moeller ruled in the mid-Atlantic until the churches wised up and got their second organ from somebody else.   I regularly practice on the mid-70's one at St. Thomas's, Dupont Circle, that replaced a larger instrument that was destroyed in the Great Fire of 1971 (give or take a year). By then Moeller had taken on some people from the collapse of Aeolian-Skinner, and this one is a great improvement on some of the others, like the one in Wesley Chapel at the seminary next to A.U. It is heavily duplexed but not unified except for the Trompette, which can be played at 8' pitch from either manual. Both sides are enclosed in a cabinet about 12' tall, shaped like a giant chiffarobe. There are no super or sub couplers or unison offs, only Sw to Gt and = either manual to pedal. There are some pistons, but that is of only academic interest to me, since I use the organ at the sufferance of Jim Kreger and don't want to mess with things.   Gt: diapason 8 & 4 bourdon 8, 4, and 2 (with chiff) Sesquialtera Mixture IV Trompette 8   Sw: rohrflute 8, 4, & 1 geigen diapason 8 celeste on geigen diapason octave 4 & 2 Trompette 16, 8 & 4   Ped.: 32' (resultant off bourdon) bourdon 16 & 8 octave 4 Trompette 16, 8, & 4   All of this is in a completely dead room -- both wall-to-wall and ceiling tile, so it rarely sounds that great, but the disposition of the stops works very well for practicing my trio sonatas so I can't complain. It is also better than the decrepit Allens and a lot of the organs I get to play services on. Life in Class A ball . . .     Evie   mailto:efrowe@mindspring.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Moller Artistes [was: Pipe Organ for sale on ebay] From: "Evelyn Rowe" <efrowe@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 00:19:24 -0500   Whoops, left out 8' diapason on the pedal. Also, all the pedal stops are extensions off the manuals.   Evie   mailto:efrowe@mindspring.com  
(back) Subject: Widor composition From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 01:36:24 EST   Greetings everyone,   does anyone know anything about a piece called "Marche Americaine" by Widor? Thanks.   Carlo ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Widor composition From: "Hans-Dieter Karras" <hans@hdkarras.de> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 09:46:39 +0100   Dear Carlo,   in my November concert-tour this year (Louisiana, Texas), i played the Marche Am=E9ricaine, op.31 by Charles-Marie Widor (1844-1937) as an = encore. That piece is original scored for organ and orchestra and transcribed by Marcel Dupr=E9 for organ solo. It's published by J.Hamelle, PAris, 1939 (J.788g H.). If you didn't found that piece by a music shop, than write my privately (hans@hdkarras.de). Good luck, Hans   ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlo Pietroniro <concert_organist@hotmail.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 7:36 AM Subject: Widor composition     > Greetings everyone, > > does anyone know anything about a piece called "Marche > Americaine" by Widor? Thanks. > > Carlo > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >