PipeChat Digest #691 - Saturday, February 6, 1999
 
Theatre Organ Home Page
  by "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@ameritech.net>
Re: I need support...
  by <ROBIN88866@aol.com>
Fwd: Candlemas in Lynn, MA (X-posted)
  by "Cheryl C Hart" <info@copemanhart.co.uk>
" at the knee of the master "
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
fly-by-nighters
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Re: Theatre Organ Home Page
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: The need for more technical information for builders. (long)
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: The need for more technical information for builders. (long)
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
ADMIN Internet Worm
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: Theatre Organ Home Page
  by <ORGANUT@aol.com>
Re: Theatre Organ Home Page
  by "J S VANDERSTAD" <dcob@nac.net>
Re: The need for more technical information for builders. (long)
  by "Frank Johnson" <usd465@horizon.hit.net>
Organ Blowers
  by <Prestant16@aol.com>
Re:playing to distraction
  by "jeffrey korns" <jakorns@worldnet.att.net>
Austin in Winfield
  by "Frank Johnson" <usd465@horizon.hit.net>
Worcester MA Kimball
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re: Organ Blowers
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@truelink.net>
Re: Austin in Winfield
  by "Blaine Ricketts" <blaineri@home.com>
Re: Austin in Winfield
  by "Frank Johnson" <usd465@horizon.hit.net>
Re: Organ Blowers-three phase motors on single phase?
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
cautions re. air conditioning
  by "Tom White" <tomwhite@hamptons.com>
Re: cautions re. air conditioning
  by "JeffWinSTL" <Reedstop@worldnet.att.net>
Re: Worcester MA Kimball
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Record Search
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Austin in Winfield
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@truelink.net>
 


(back) Subject: Theatre Organ Home Page From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@ameritech.net> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 07:24:20 -0600   Hi,   Have been unable to access Theatreorgans.com server for last two days. Anyone else experiencing a problem accessing theatreorgans?   jc  
(back) Subject: Re: I need support... From: ROBIN88866@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:47:40 EST   In a message dated 99-02-04 15:08:52 EST, you write:   << The church Officials and the district want the church closed. (Unfortunantly, I do too [so I can have the organ].) >>     This is a little extreme, Jason. Maybe you need to live a bit longer before you are justified in these attitudes. This is no flame----just an opinion.     Robin  
(back) Subject: Fwd: Candlemas in Lynn, MA (X-posted) From: Cheryl C Hart <info@copemanhart.co.uk> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:51:58 +0000   I am taking the liberty of forwarding this announcement, in case any one is interested and close enough to attend.   The organ is also very interesting. ;-)   Cheryl     >From: Mark Nelson <menelson@cove.com> >Subject: Candlemas in Lynn >X-Envelope-From: menelson@cove.com > >A "Presentation of our Lord" Festal Evensong is being celebrated by St. >Stephen's Memorial Episcopal Church, and First Lutheran Church ELCA in Lynn >MA > >on Sunday 7 February 1999 >at 4 p.m. >at First Lutheran, 280 Broadway, Wyoma Square. > >Choirs from both churches will combine to sing the liturgy >as well as the "Nunc Dimittis" in C by Charles Villiers Stanford. A >reception will follow. The church is handicapped accessible. All are welcome. >Mark Edward Nelson >72 Martin Street >Essex MA 01929 >978.768.7722 >menelson@cove.com > >   http://www.copemanhart.co.uk Copeman Hart & Company Ltd England    
(back) Subject: " at the knee of the master " From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:33:05 -0500   Hi, Group... I was fortunate, I guess. I cut my teeth on the Rialto (Joliet, Il ) 4m 24r Barton back in the late sixties. Since then, I have had the pleasure of working with willing +ACI-masters+ACI- who knew the trade/ art well, and decently. This, alone can instill a good reputation. I have a dear elderly friend who has retired from the business, and he is turning his accounts over to me. Without him, I couldn't walk in cold to any church and sell my services. I take the old fart ( friendly term, I assure you ) with me on service calls, just to keep him from wandering aimlessly around the neighborhood. Besides, he still has an interest in the instruments, is a wealth of knowledge, and a great deal of fun to be with, and he holds keys down real well, too.   R. Veague        
(back) Subject: fly-by-nighters From: KriderSM@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:46:05 EST   My humble apologies to the pipechat family. This neophyte has been sent to the corner with his dunce cap on.   Stan   David Scribner, Co-Owner / Technical Administrator wrote:     <But I do REQUEST that you DO NOT name names or even initials.>            
(back) Subject: Re: Theatre Organ Home Page From: "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 06:32:20 -0500   >Have been unable to access Theatreorgans.com server for last two days. >Anyone else experiencing a problem accessing theatreorgans?   Yes, I have.   jc   ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Re: The need for more technical information for builders. (long) From: "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 06:34:57 -0500   >WHERE ARE ALL THE TECHNICAL TEXTBOOKS ON HOW TO BUILD A PIPE ORGAN ? > >I just looked through my new copy of the Organ Historical Society's >catalogue.     I would thing that the Dom Bedos (?) $500-$600 book would be the answer. Anybody going to offer to buy it for me????????     Jason Comet Junior in High School bombarde8@juno.com Begining Driver - Get off the streets! |\ Organist/Choir Director | | 2/13 C. E. Morey/Knapton/Raville organ O 7 member choir   ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Re: The need for more technical information for builders. (long) From: "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 06:47:28 -0500     On Thu, 04 Feb 1999 01:08:51 -0500 Nelson and Tracy Denton <ndenton434@bigwave.ca> writes: >I've been following the threads on disappearing organ companies and >training organ apprentices, fly-by nighters etc. One thing that seems >to >have been missed is this > >WHERE ARE ALL THE TECHNICAL TEXTBOOKS ON HOW TO BUILD A PIPE ORGAN ? > >I just looked through my new copy of the Organ Historical Society's >catalogue. > >Only 11 books were listed on the technical end of organbuilding. and >of >these most are over 100 years old!! > >What other trade can boast of having such little technical information >about it's own trade? Other than the 19 AIO videos that are now >available, >what other sources of information can an apprentice or master builder >turn >to for advice or reference? > <snip>   I'm going to keep this message and when I'm on my own and own my own company and are doing well, then I'll write my own book on all the latest, and oldest techniques, diagrams, charts, measurments, pictures, etc... etc... etc...   Good going!   Jason Comet Junior in High School bombarde8@juno.com Begining Driver - Get off the streets! |\ Organist/Choir Director | | 2/13 C. E. Morey/Knapton/Raville organ O 7 member choir   ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: ADMIN Internet Worm From: Administrator <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 17:54:20 -0600   Folks   Although this is off-topic, after doing some research I feel that this is important enough that I should do this posting.   There is an Internet Worm called "HAPPY99.exe" that is making the rounds via e-mail and newsgroup postings. See the following web pages for specific information about it: http://www.msnbc.com/news/235662.asp or http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/happy99.worm.html   It is only AFTER checking this out that I decided to alert the members of this list. If will only affect those of you who are running PC - since it is an "exe" file it can't be run on a Mac so at this point in time Mac users have no worries. But for those of you that are running on a PC do not run this file if it happens to show up in either your email or in a newsgroup post.   As a note - as Technical Administrator I have the right to do a posting such as this but general members are not to post virus reports to the list since most of them are hoaxs. If you feel that there is something like a virus report that should be posted forward it to me FIRST so I can check it out. If there is merit I will then post it to the list.   Sorry about another Admin posting but I do feel that this is an important one.   DAvid **************************************** David Scribner Co-Owner / Technical Administrator PipeChat   850-478-9635 mailto:david@blackiris.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Theatre Organ Home Page From: ORGANUT@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 20:26:58 EST   Yes, I have too. Have also been having squirrely problems with AOL too.   Phil L.  
(back) Subject: Re: Theatre Organ Home Page From: J S VANDERSTAD <dcob@nac.net> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 20:32:41 -0500   Hello friends, I have also been having the same problems- I receive a "server is down or not responding" message. Mr. Vanderstad   ORGANUT@aol.com wrote: > > Yes, I have too. Have also been having squirrely problems with AOL too. > > Phil L. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: The need for more technical information for builders. (long) From: usd465@horizon.hit.net (Frank Johnson) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:21:40 -0600   >I'm going to keep this message and when I'm on my own and own my own >company and are doing well, then I'll write my own book on all the >latest, and oldest techniques, diagrams, charts, measurments, pictures, >etc... etc... etc... > >Good going! > >Jason Comet > Junior in High School >bombarde8@juno.com Begining Driver - Get off the streets! > |\ Organist/Choir Director > | | 2/13 C. E. Morey/Knapton/Raville organ >O 7 member choir >   Jason I'm almost 61 years old. Will the book be done in time for me (grin)?   Frank   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader http://www.hit.net/~usd465/ 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156      
(back) Subject: Organ Blowers From: Prestant16@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 23:33:10 EST   Does anybody on the list have experiance matching capacitors to blowers? Organ Supply Industries has a chart in their new catalog for capacitord for Laukhuff blowers, but I have found the are not really interchangable with other makes. I tried using a 50 MFD capacitor on a 1/2 hp spencer, but the organ blower does not work at full speed. I'd really hate to replace the motor, it is running great (on 3 ph.) for over 70 years old! Any ideas on matching capacitors for organ blower motors?   Thanks,   -William Catanesye  
(back) Subject: Re:playing to distraction From: jeffrey korns <jakorns@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 22:49:31 -0600   I was once substituting at a church that had been without an organist for some time. An overly enthusiastic elderly gentleman decided to greet me while I was playing by giving me a welcoming slap on the back. Not expecting anyone up where I was, and not hearing him come up I almost jumped off of the bench. The other common occurance is having to try to prevent curious little tykes from wandering up and making the postlude solo into a four handed duet! Parents watch your kids please!   Jeff "Organist is not a team position" Korns  
(back) Subject: Austin in Winfield From: usd465@horizon.hit.net (Frank Johnson) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 23:06:29 -0600   Those of you following the Austin Universal Chest organ in Winfield, Kansas.   The Spencer blower has a selinium (sp?) rectifier. We are told it may go out. What replaces it and what is it?   Frank   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader http://www.hit.net/~usd465/ 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156      
(back) Subject: Worcester MA Kimball From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 00:06:12 -0500   In answer to recent inquiries, the Worcester Massachusetts Auditorium Kimball concert organ remains intact and protected, but not playable. The console is wrapped, the blower remains accessible, and work has not yet begun in the main auditorium to convert it to office space, although operations started in the basement in September for the Juvenile Court. If and when this upstairs work begins, the organ will be enclosed and protected beforehand, but accessible for being moved out if that should take place. From Judy Ollikkala, Worcester MA  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Blowers From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@truelink.net> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 21:40:15 -0800   At 11:33 PM 2/5/1999 EST, Prestant16@aol.com wrote:   >I tried using a 50 MFD capacitor on a 1/2 hp spencer, but the >organ blower does not work at full speed. I'd really hate to replace the >motor, it is running great (on 3 ph.) for over 70 years old! > Any ideas on matching capacitors for organ blower motors?   You're trying to run a 3 ph motor on single phase?? STOP! Capacitors are NOT the answer here. The only way to do this CORRECTLY is change the motor to a capacitor start single phase motor. If you continue to try to run a 3 phase motor on single phase current, you WILL destroy the windings. There are single phase to 3 phase converters out there, but why spend the money, just to match an obsolete motor?? Get yourself a 1/2 hp cap start motor and be done with it.   Am I missing something here??   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Austin in Winfield From: Blaine Ricketts <blaineri@home.com> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 21:50:01 -0800   I suspect the blower and rectifier are two separate units.   If the Selenium diodes go out, usually the voltage drops to a level that degrades organ operation. You replace them with silicon diodes mounted on two insulated heat sinks or get another rectifier. Your organ man will know where to get the right unit.   By the way, with silicone diodes in the old unit, you will have a little higher voltage than before but you can also go to a lower voltage tap and no harm will be done.   Blaine Ricketts Castro Valley, CA    
(back) Subject: Re: Austin in Winfield From: usd465@horizon.hit.net (Frank Johnson) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 00:01:15 -0600   >I suspect the blower and rectifier are two separate units. > >If the Selenium diodes go out, usually the voltage drops to a level that >degrades organ operation. You replace them with silicon diodes mounted >on two insulated heat sinks or get another rectifier. Your organ man >will know where to get the right unit. > >By the way, with silicone diodes in the old unit, you will have a little >higher voltage than before but you can also go to a lower voltage tap >and no harm will be done. >   Thank you Blaine. What a great list this is.   Frank   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader http://www.hit.net/~usd465/ 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156      
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Blowers-three phase motors on single phase? From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 01:14:23 EST   I am assuming that this discussion seems to center about a half horse motor running on three phase,,now wanted to run on single phase. I agree with DesertBob that the easiest thing is to replace the motor. However---do we have all the facts---is there a strange rpm of motor involved? AND most significantly far as I am concerned,,is a motor with that length of shaft out the front usually requires slightly different bearings on account of the blower "fans" hanging on the motor bearings entirely. That has been Spencer's system from the start. The earlier blowers with single phase repulsion start induction run motors and sleeve bearings had a special Kingsbury thrust bearing on the back end of the motor to help with the fan "load" on the shaft. I think its quite unusual for a 1/2 horse motor to have been on 3 phase. Regards, --Roc  
(back) Subject: cautions re. air conditioning From: Tom White <tomwhite@hamptons.com> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 02:03:14 +0000   Dear List:   My church is currently considering installation of Air Conditioning.   Can you give any experience of what effects this may have on the operation of the pipe organ?   We have a '34 Austin organ, 2 man. both divisions enclosed in expression boxes. the blower is in the attic of the church. Blower intake is from the ceiling of the church.   Thank You     Tom White    
(back) Subject: Re: cautions re. air conditioning From: "JeffWinSTL" <Reedstop@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 01:08:32 -0600   >installation of Air Conditioning. >Can you give any experience of what effects >this may have on the operation of the pipe >organ?     Tom,   When my home congregation installed air, it didn't have any effect on the organ's operation. However, the way this organ is set up, the Swell is separate from the Great and Pedal, so keeping the tuning was a bit difficult.   Another problem some churches have is that they shut the air off during the week, and supercool the room on the weekend. This could cause variations in the tuning also.   I've heard of builders that will include a cold-air-intake in the organ chamber, thus pulling the hot air out of the chamber and pulling the church's air in. Despite the hour, I'm reasonably sure this was done at 1st Presbyterian in Alton. Write to me privately next week and I'll find out from the builder himself.   Regards, Jeff      
(back) Subject: Re: Worcester MA Kimball From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 02:31:23 EST   Thanks Judy for the update....Please keep us posted of any new developments. Its a nice instrument and deserves a second chance! Regards, --Roc  
(back) Subject: Record Search From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 02:38:10 -0500   Hi, List... I'm looking for a copy of Richard Ellesasser playing Widor's 5th Organ Symphony. The recording was made on the +ACo-Nonesuch+ACo- label, if I'm not mistaken, and the instrument used was the John Hammond-- Castle Austin. You know what happens when one loans something out........... Purty-please, out there, does sumbody got one? We can talk.   Rick V. dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net      
(back) Subject: Re: Austin in Winfield From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@truelink.net> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 01:54:22 -0800   At 11:06 PM 2/5/1999 -0600, Frank Johnson wrote: > Those of you following the Austin Universal Chest organ in >Winfield, Kansas. > >The Spencer blower has a selinium (sp?) rectifier. We are told it may go >out.<snip>   Yes, indeedy, selinium rectifier stacks do go out, and when they do, you DON'T want to be around...talk about a STINK!!   What replaces it and what is it?   Plain ol' silicon diodes replace them just fine, but you'll expect another 1.2 volts of voltage drop across the rectifier, so, if there's any regulation or adjustment in the power supply circuit, an adjustment can be made. Failing that, you can always use one of the power Schotky types, with a lower voltage drop. However, usually a silicon diode of the right forward current and PIV (peak inverse voltage) rating will suffice. This ISN'T a tough/expensive change-out; it just requires some electrical knowledge and some catalog reading.   DeserTBoB