PipeChat Digest #697 - Wednesday, February 10, 1999
 
RE: Thank you
  by "R A Campbell" <rcampbel@U.Arizona.EDU>
Re:cjsambach
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
blowers
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
blowers
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: blowers
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: blowers
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: blowers
  by "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Re: blowers
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: blowers
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: blowers
  by "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@ameritech.net>
blowers
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: blowers
  by "Daryl Robinson" <orgel1@fcmail.com>
(no subject)
  by "Daryl Robinson" <orgel1@fcmail.com>
Theatre Organ Activity in the Chicago Area (X-POSTED)
  by "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Theatre Organ Activity in the Chicago Area (X-POSTED)
  by "Bob & Sally Evans" <orgnloft@MA.ultranet.com>
MIDI interface info needed
  by "Nicholas A Hall, Jr." <tremulants@juno.com>
Ecce Sacerdos / Sacerdos et Pontifex
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: Ecce Sacerdos / Sacerdos et Pontifex
  by "William Lengyel" <theorganist@webtv.net>
Re: blowers
  by <RSiegel920@aol.com>
Re: blowers
  by <KurtvonS@aol.com>
Re: Ecce Sacerdos / Sacerdos et Pontifex
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
The Leslie For Sale (Re: hammond)
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: Theatre Organ Activity in the Chicago Area (X-POSTED)
  by <LeeMalo@aol.com>
Re: Ecce Sacerdos / Sacerdos et Pontifex
  by <CHERCAPA@aol.com>
Re: Ecce Sacerdos / Sacerdos et Pontifex
  by "William Lengyel" <theorganist@webtv.net>
Three Phase Question (Long response!)
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpncorn@davesworld.net>
Re: Ecce Sacerdos / Sacerdos et Pontifex
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
 


(back) Subject: RE: Thank you From: R A Campbell <rcampbel@U.Arizona.EDU> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 05:34:05 -0700 (MST)   Excellent. Will Sign up today!   ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ R. A. Campbell, KUAT Communications-Modern Languages Building P.O.Box 210067 University of Arizona, Tucson AZ 85721    
(back) Subject: Re:cjsambach From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 08:22:53 -0500   Does this fine person do "classical" instruments only ? IOW has he got a program for Theatre instruments?   Inquiring minds want to know,   John      
(back) Subject: blowers From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:20:31 -0500   I have it thru reliable sources, that the Atlantic City Convention Hall has to alert ComEdison Power and Light to throw on more switches when they ( the convention hall ) wants to use the organ. The instrument apparently has several blowers on it which puts a strain on the municipal power supply.   Rick      
(back) Subject: blowers From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:41:23 -0500   Back in the 20 's and 30 's the Chicago ( my home town ) Theatre derived some of it's electrical power for their WurliTzer from the elevated railway lines. They (the theatre) also had a water lift for the console. Back in ' 78, George Wright asked (jokingly) that no one use the rest rooms during his concert--and flush.   Rick      
(back) Subject: Re: blowers From: David Scribner <david@blackiris.com> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:03:25 -0600   >I have it thru reliable sources, that the Atlantic City Convention Hall has >to alert ComEdison Power and Light to throw on more switches when they ( the >convention hall ) wants to use the organ. The instrument apparently has >several blowers on it which puts a strain on the municipal power supply. > >Rick >   This is just another of the URBAN LEGENDS about the Atlantic City organ. There is no truth to this. Although the organ has 7 blowers plus the generator totaling currently totaling 600 HP, it is NOT necessary to contact the city to turn them on. And it never has been necessary to contact the city or the streetcar lines in the old days. In the days of the DC motors on the blowers the HP totaled 394 HP.   Another URBAN LEGEND is that if the organ was running the city streetcars could not run.   Some of these stories just will not die.   David ********************** David Scribner Director of Communications Atlantic City Convention Hall Organ Society http://www.acchos.org/ info@acchos.org  
(back) Subject: Re: blowers From: David Scribner <david@blackiris.com> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:10:35 -0600   >Back in the 20 's and 30 's the Chicago ( my home town ) Theatre derived >some of it's electrical power for their WurliTzer from the elevated railway >lines. They (the theatre) also had a water lift for the console. Back in ' >78, George Wright >asked (jokingly) that no one use the rest rooms during his concert--and >flush. > >Rick >   Rick   An answer to another one of your "legends" - the Chicago Theatre, like most buildings in downtown Chicago were originally on DC power. Directly across Lake Street from the side of the theatre is a Commonwealth substation that supplied power for downtown, or at least parts of it - there were several substaions in the downtown area. Following the conversion of the downtown area to AC outside of the Chicago under the Lake Street sidewalk there was a DC to AC converter to continue giving the theatre DC power. Since then, if I am not mistaken, all the motors in the theatre have been changed over to AC.   Most theatres in Chicago used water power to operate their fire curtains and lifts in the pit. Once the lift or curtain was up the valve on the piston would close holding the water in the piston, so unless there were leaks in the piston itself the lift or curtain would not move until that valve was opened to release the water.   David Chicago is also my hometown.  
(back) Subject: Re: blowers From: Stanley E Yoder <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:38:14 -0500 (EST)   Excerpts from mail: 9-Feb-99 Re: blowers by David Scribner@blackiris > Although the [ACCH] organ has 7 blowers plus the > generator totaling currently totaling 600 HP, it is NOT necessary to > contact the city to turn them on.   I had read/understood that the original wooden Kinetics (alluded to above?) had been replaced relatively recently by two monsters whose motors total c.900HP. This is a substantial HP increase, but the organ had been underwinded before. Also, the Kinetics had to be rebuilt by Roscoe Evans after the hurricane of 1944 flooded the basements, also destroying most of the combon action.   Stephen Smith of London would know for sure.   As to current draw, let's see: 900HP translates roughly to 3000 amps at 220v., or 1500 amps at 440v.   Stan Yoder Pittsburgh  
(back) Subject: Re: blowers From: David Scribner <david@blackiris.com> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:57:13 -0600   At 9:38 AM -0500 2/9/99, Stanley E Yoder wrote: >Excerpts from mail: 9-Feb-99 Re: blowers by David Scribner@blackiris >> Although the [ACCH] organ has 7 blowers plus the >> generator totaling currently totaling 600 HP, it is NOT necessary to >> contact the city to turn them on. > >I had read/understood that the original wooden Kinetics (alluded to >above?) had been replaced relatively recently by two monsters whose >motors total c.900HP. This is a substantial HP increase, but the organ >had been underwinded before. Also, the Kinetics had to be rebuilt by >Roscoe Evans after the hurricane of 1944 flooded the basements, also >destroying most of the combon action. > >Stephen Smith of London would know for sure. > >As to current draw, let's see: 900HP translates roughly to 3000 amps at >220v., or 1500 amps at 440v.   Stan   Having been in the Hall back in November when we recorded the new CD of the organ we did double check the blowers and their HP. There are a total of 7 blowers - below is the listing of them:   GENERATOR (5 horsepower) DC power LOW GREAT (75 horsepower) Right Stage Chamber HIGH GREAT (100 horsepower) Right Stage Chamber LOW SWELL (75 horsepower) Left Stage Chamber HIGH SWELL (125 horsepower) Left Stage Chamber ECHO (75 horsepower) Echo, Right Forward/Center Chamber FANFARE (100 horsepower) Fanfare, Left Forward/Center Chamber COMPRESSOR (50 horsepower) 100" for Grand Ophicleide, etc.     Low and High in reference to the Great and Swell mean the two pressures those divisions operate on. This list is actually part of an article for the next issue of the "GRAND OPHICLEIDE" which goes to the members of the ACCHOS. As far as Stephen knowing, he would have the same information since he was another of the Borad of Directors that were there for the recording session. And we were in the blower rooms during that visit along with Stephen visiting every pipe chamber except for the two roof chambers. There will also be photos of the control panels for the blowers appearing in this next issue of the GO.   The blowers are the original Kinetic blowers with the new AC motors installed on them. And the blower boxes have been rebuilt over the years.   David ********************** David Scribner Director of Communications Atlantic City Convention Hall Organ Society http://www.acchos.org/ info@acchos.org  
(back) Subject: Re: blowers From: David Scribner <david@blackiris.com> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:06:42 -0600   I should have mentioned in my last post about the AC blowers. There are several blower rooms - the main one under the Right Front Chamber contains the generator, compressor and the two Great blowers. At the beginning of the new CD that is in production there will be a track with the sounds of these three blowers in this blower room starting up. It is incredible to hear in person and is still incredible on the CD.   David ********************** David Scribner Director of Communications Atlantic City Convention Hall Organ Society http://www.acchos.org/ info@acchos.org  
(back) Subject: Re: blowers From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@ameritech.net> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 09:56:02 -0600   Actually at one time most of downtown Chicago used DC current. The Chicago Theatre was in that part of the loop and got the DC from the power company rather than the elevated railway (which uses 600vdc) The blowers on the Chicago Theatre still have DC motors, the theatre rectifying the power for the organ and for some of the ventilating fans which have DC motors. The water lift was in place until the '80s when it was replaced by a newer lift. When I started at WLS across the street the State- Lake building still had some DC distribution and we had to be careful not to plug any of our electronic equipment into a DC line. Edison no longer distributes DC and other than the elevated railway which has its own substation there is no longer DC available.   Jon   VEAGUE wrote: > > Back in the 20 's and 30 's the Chicago ( my home town ) Theatre derived > some of it's electrical power for their WurliTzer from the elevated railway > lines. They (the theatre) also had a water lift for the console. Back in ' > 78, George Wright > asked (jokingly) that no one use the rest rooms during his concert--and > flush. > > Rick > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: blowers From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:33:36 -0500   ...........goes to show ya how good reliable sources are, right??   Rick      
(back) Subject: Re: blowers From: "Daryl Robinson" <orgel1@fcmail.com> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 11:33:59 -0800   Its about time I get some one to talk to no one around here seems to understand where I am coming from when I talk about organs!   Daryl   Daryl   ______________________________________________________   Sent by FortuneCity Mail at http://www.fortunecity.com       Join now and receive 20Mb of free web space and E-mail  
(back) Subject: From: "Daryl Robinson" <orgel1@fcmail.com> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 11:39:41 -0800   OK I am a little confused on how this system works if some one could please fill me in if anyone is getting this! HELP!!!!!!!!!!1   Daryl   Daryl   ______________________________________________________   Sent by FortuneCity Mail at http://www.fortunecity.com       Join now and receive 20Mb of free web space and E-mail  
(back) Subject: Theatre Organ Activity in the Chicago Area (X-POSTED) From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@theatreorgans.com> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 18:54:58 -0600   Chicago is one of the areas in the country which offers regular offerings for the theatre organ fan. In addition to the San Filippo mega-WurliTzer organ, the Grande Barton at the Joliet Rialto and the Chicago Theatre WurliTzer which get quite a bit of attention on the lists we are fortunate to have many theatre pipe organs still playing in area theatres.   CLASSIC CINEMAS operate 3 theatres which have pipe organs and they are played on weekends prior to the feature films. These theatres are:   Tivoli Theatre in Downers Grove York Theatre in Elmhurst Arcada Theatre in St. Charles   The Pickwick Theatre in Park Ridge and the Gateway Theatre in Chicago feature special programs:   On Friday March 5th at 8PM the Gateway presents silent film "The Eagle" starring Rudolf Valentino accompanied by Dennis Scott at the organ   Sunday March 21st at 2:30 CATOE PUBLIC SHOW at the Pickwick Theatre featuring the Ron Smolling Orchestra with Bill Tandy at the WurliTzer pipe organ   Friday April 30th at 8PM the Gateway Theatre presents the silent film "Male & Female" starring Gloria Swanson with Jay Warren at the Gateway pipe organ.   Sunday May 23rd at 2:30 PM the Pickwick Theatre is showing the silent film "College" (1927) starring Buster Keaton with Dennis Scott at the WurliTzer organ.   In addition to the above there are playing organs in the Patio Theatre Chicago and the Hinsdale Theatre, Hinsdale which are featured regularly for special programs. In nearby Lansing, Il. Beggar's Pizza has a pipe organ which is played on several week nights. The historic Baker Hotel in St. Charles has a Geneva pipe organ in the restored dining rooms which is occasionally used for Sunday Brunches.   For specific information on the Chicago Area pipe organs and contact information visit the current theatre organ data base at: http://barton.theatreorgans.com/currentsearch.htm   regards,   Jon C. Habermaas  
(back) Subject: Re: Theatre Organ Activity in the Chicago Area (X-POSTED) From: orgnloft@MA.ultranet.com (Bob & Sally Evans) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 20:42:43 -0500   >Chicago is one of the areas in the country which offers regular >offerings for the theatre organ fan. In addition to the San Filippo >mega-WurliTzer organ, the Grande Barton at the Joliet Rialto and >the Chicago Theatre WurliTzer which get quite a bit of attention on the >lists we are fortunate to have many theatre pipe organs still playing in >area theatres.   We had a gret time at the Rialtofest Weekend. What a show! The weekend was well organized, the organs and organists great, and the people friendly and informative. Does anyone know when the CD of the Saturday performance will be released? We ordered one the night of the performance and wondered.   Bob Evans >   Bob's Wurlitzer Loft, Swansea, MA Home of "Rochelle" the Wurlitzer RJ-12 Pipe Organ      
(back) Subject: MIDI interface info needed From: "Nicholas A Hall, Jr." <tremulants@juno.com> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:51:21 -0700   I am looking for the least expensive MIDI interface I can get. I'd be interested in either (E)ISA, or PCI, although right now it will go into an ISA 386 DX-40.   Any suggestions?   ....Nick   Theatre, Baroque or Cathedral... The pipe organ is God's gift to His children ----- Tremulants@juno.com -----   ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]  
(back) Subject: Ecce Sacerdos / Sacerdos et Pontifex From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 18:35:05 -0800   Scott F. (and other RC musicians on list): do any of y'all have settings of either "Ecce Sacerdos Magnus" (Behold a Great Priest) or "Sacerdos et Pontifex" (O Priest and Bishop) in English OR Latin? The Archbishop is coming to ordain one of our readers to the diaconate, and this is the first time since 1963 (!) I've had to deal with singing the old-rite Reception of a Bishop ceremony. I seem to recall vaguely a metrical version of one or the other in the old People's Mass Book, but I can't find my copy.   This is going to be interesting ... the reader being ordained is our Master of Ceremonies; I can't be Master because I'll be playing the organ; we have no other. Well, I guess they'll just have to wander around the Sanctuary on their own (grin). I told the Altar Guild to get out the vimpas and iron them, and they just sort of looked at me like "vimpas? VIMPAS? What's a VIMPA??" We have no canopy for the throne, but the wife of one of my tenors can whip THAT up out of a gold brocade bedspread in a heartbeat. How do you balance the 7th candle on a hump-backed tabernacle???   Something to look forward to RIGHT after Holy Week (@#$%&*?!!)   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Ecce Sacerdos / Sacerdos et Pontifex From: theorganist@webtv.net (William Lengyel) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:09:18 -0500 (EST)   Dear Bud,   I have the latin (Mode I) Sacerdos et Pontifex in a copy of the 1953 Pius X Hymnal. I also have a Peoples Mass Book organ accompaniment at church. I can check that edition for you tomorrow. Email a fax # to me or a snail mail address.   Glad to Help, Bill in hot, humid Miami Fl.    
(back) Subject: Re: blowers From: RSiegel920@aol.com Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:50:36 EST   In a message dated 2/9/99 9:54:42 AM Central Standard Time, opus1100@ameritech.net writes:   << When I started at WLS across the street the State- Lake building >> Curious as to what ever hapened to the State-Lake Theater organ after they "renovated "the theater out of existence? R. Siegel  
(back) Subject: Re: blowers From: KurtvonS@aol.com Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:27:34 EST   The original State Lake organ, a duplexed Moller is still in a Chicago church. The second organ, a style 240 3/13 WurliTzer, spent many years in the Avenue Theatre in San Francisco. I think it had to be removed, and I'm not sure of the latest chapters!  
(back) Subject: Re: Ecce Sacerdos / Sacerdos et Pontifex From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 20:01:42 -0800   Hi, Bill!   I have the chants to both; I was looking for composed settings and/or that congregational hymn in the PMB. If you have that, the church's snail mail address is:   Bud Clark, Organist/Choirmaster St. Matthew's Anglican Catholic Church Newport Beach CA 92660-5529   THANKS!   Bud   P.S. - Does that marvelous old E.M. Skinner still exist in Christ Episcopal Cathedral (?) in Miami? I heard it as a teenager ...   William Lengyel wrote:   > Dear Bud, > > I have the latin (Mode I) Sacerdos et Pontifex in a copy of the 1953 > Pius X Hymnal. I also have a Peoples Mass Book organ accompaniment at > church. I can check that edition for you tomorrow. Email a fax # to me > or a snail mail address. > > Glad to Help, > Bill in hot, humid Miami Fl. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: The Leslie For Sale (Re: hammond) From: ScottFop@aol.com Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:17:55 EST   Folks-   the Leslie model on the plate mounted to the rear of the tone cabinet says:   Model 145   Hope this answers some questions.   Scott Foppiano  
(back) Subject: Re: Theatre Organ Activity in the Chicago Area (X-POSTED) From: LeeMalo@aol.com Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:50:46 EST   The CD from the RialtoFest 3 weekend in Chicago (Joliet) featuring the Rialto Theatre's "Pipe Organ Extravaganza 3" is currently in production. We have just received the final approvals from the artists as to which selections can be used on the CD and the master discs are currently in editing. I would expect the CD to be released in the next few weeks.   This year's CD will be a 2 - CD set. For more information, E-mail Lee Maloney at Leemalo@aol.com   Lee  
(back) Subject: Re: Ecce Sacerdos / Sacerdos et Pontifex From: CHERCAPA@aol.com Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:17:06 EST   Dear Bud, I have a copy of that in my old St. Gregory Hymnal. If you can't get one anywhere, let me know and I'll xerox you a copy. Paul  
(back) Subject: Re: Ecce Sacerdos / Sacerdos et Pontifex From: theorganist@webtv.net (William Lengyel) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:22:01 -0500 (EST)   Hi Bud,   I'll check the PMB tomorrow. If it's not there, I'll stop by the Cathedral of Saint Mary (RC) tomorrow, Dr. Bryant surely will have it. (Them)   Yes, the E.M. Skinner is still in Trinity Episcopal Cathedral. I have not heard it in about 5 years and sad to say, understand it is in rather poor condition.   Bill    
(back) Subject: Three Phase Question (Long response!) From: Richard Schneider <arpncorn@davesworld.net> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 23:57:12 -0800   On Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:44:39 EST <Tnbirke@aol.com> asks:   > Dear List > I have enjoyed the recent conversation on . . . 3 phase motors   > A more basic question is how did we get in the three phase business in the > first place?   Well, it goes back to Edison contemplating the distribution of electricity when he was working out everything that had to do with the electric light business.   Many folks don't realize that Edison really invented an entire SYSTEM of electrical distribution and control, as well as the light bulb! Early systems were DC, so long as the generators were near enough to the point of usage. Original generators (called Long-waisted Mary Annes!) produced DC current by the use of brushes on Communtators.   But since DC current is in a steady state of flow, it is not possible to make such things as transformers work properly without overheating. One of the chief things learned early on is that if the same amount of current is sent over wires at a higher voltage, the percentage of voltage drop due to resistance of the wires may remain the same, but if the voltage is higher, it translates into a lesser amount of losses.   Three phase came about because someone figured out that it would be possible, by "shifting" the "high points" of the three AC sinusoidal waves 120 degrees apart, the current flowing through the common neutral would, in effect, cancel each other out, provided the loads on all three of the phases are balanced. When one phase is high, the other is low, in three "tidal waves", as it were.   It also meant that this rotating pull could be put to great usefulness in the starting and operation of very large industrial motors.   Most electricity is distributed in all but the most remote rural areas as three phase. Basically, when one gets to a residence along a three-phase line, a transformer is dropped across only one of the three phases and neutral, to bring the current down to the normally distributed 120/240 VAC that runs to most homes.   Many commercial buildings (including ours) are wired with what is termed "open delta" Three phase. It's not true three-phase, in that the "third phase" is called a "wild-leg, because it's voltage to ground is on the order of 170 volts (and so identified by the wire for that phase being colored orange!) But electrical loads like three-phase motors sees this phase, along with the two "legs" of a 120/240 volt (so-called) single phase (in reality: it's actually two-phase!) as being close enough to three phase to operate reasonably properly. In this case, the two phases of the single-phase portion of the circuit are 180 degrees out-of-phase with each other, and the third phase fits in between there somewhere (at around 90 degrees)   True three phase is referred to as a WYE or STAR configuration, where they actually bring three true phases into the building. This is done in larger commercial/industrial establishments. The connection across two of the phases in this case, is 208 volts, rather than the normal 240 volts we're accustomed to seeing in residential work.   I hope this explanation is somewhat more helpful than confusing. It's pretty late for me to be tacking something of this magnitude of technicality.   Faithfully,   Richard Schneider, President SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Organbuilders 41-43 Johnston Street Post Office Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX mailto:arpncorn@davesworld.net EMAIL (Note change in ISP's Domain-Name!)    
(back) Subject: Re: Ecce Sacerdos / Sacerdos et Pontifex From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 23:52:29 -0800   Thanks, Paul! The church's fax number is 949-650-9541   CHERCAPA@aol.com wrote:   > Dear Bud, I have a copy of that in my old St. Gregory Hymnal. If you can't get > one anywhere, let me know and I'll xerox you a copy. Paul > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org