PipeChat Digest #715 - Saturday, February 20, 1999
 
Mason & Hamlin Pump organ
  by <DaveW10140@aol.com>
RE: FMC, Houston
  by "Barry and Claire Bodie" <bbodie@InfoAve.Net>
Houston Organs
  by "LAMAR BOULET" <lmar@hotmail.com>
A Very Real Health Concern For Elderly Congregations
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re: DISASTERS!!!
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: Kiddie Organs
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: Houston Skinner
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Kiddie Organs
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Re: A Very Real Health Concern For Elderly Congregations
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Church of the Gesu Kimball/Kilgen
  by "Dominic Joseph Radanovich" <rpob@aero.net>
Re: A Very Real Health Concern For Elderly Congregations
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
 


(back) Subject: Mason & Hamlin Pump organ From: DaveW10140@aol.com Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 07:44:00 EST   A church in Northeast Wisconsin would like to find a new home for their former organ(2 organs ago) which was a Mason & Hamlin pump organ. If anyone is interested they can call the church at 920-845-2565.   Dave W  
(back) Subject: RE: FMC, Houston From: Barry and Claire Bodie <bbodie@InfoAve.Net> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 08:22:52 -0500   I believe you may be confusing First UMC with St. Paul's. St. Paul's had a large Kilgen/Pilcher which is now a Schantz in its second incarnation. A very nice instrument, I might add.   > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of > LAMAR BOULET > Sent: Friday, February 19, 1999 10:00 PM > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: FMC, Houston > > > I serviced the organ in the FMC, downtown Houston, in the late 50's. At > the time I was a service man for Kilgen. I recall replacing the belts > on the motor and generator with V-belts. Was the old organ I serviced a > Skinner at the time or was the older organ replaced with a Skinner? > Also, the organ was gone over after the fire in about the 80's. I > recall visiting while this work was being done. I think Jimmy > Williams, of New Orleans, was in charge of the job. At least I recall > that he was on the scene. There was a voicing chest set up to do some > voicing. I think Williams still maintains the Skinner at the Episcopal > church in Shreveport, [St. Marks] I understand that he was the rep for > Skinner in the past. > Also involved with the project was a tonal director for Wicks Organs. > His name will not come to me now. He was at one time the organist for > the church. > > Just thought I would offer the above info. > > Lamar Boulet > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Houston Organs From: "LAMAR BOULET" <lmar@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 05:51:02 PST   I re-leathered and helped finish St. Pauls in the 50's for Kilgen. Demming was the organist at the time. Some one mentioned that the organ at ST, Pauls was a Kilgen/Pilcher. Could they explain the term Kilgen/Pilcher. It had been installed about 1930. Does that mean that Pilcher installed it? Two old Pilcher trackers are in this area and still playing.   I serviced the FMC and did not recall it being a Skinner and have now learned that the Skinner was installed later. Did Roy Perry have much to do with it? Roy was a distant cousin of mine. He was born and raised in south Louisiana. What was the old organ at FMC? Was it a Kilgen? I recall working on the Echo organ in the dome of the building.   Several organs in Houston were Kilgens,on which Kilgen had service contracts. I also removed a 'player' Kilgen from a funeral home in downtown Houston for the Houston Casket Company. The casket co. built crates to store the pipes in and the whole instrument was placed in a warehouse at the Casket Co. factory. Does anyone know what happened to this one.?   Those days were the last few years of Kilgen. I worked with them up until about a year before they went under.   Lamar       ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: A Very Real Health Concern For Elderly Congregations From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 09:34:11 -0500   I would not advise anyone using the defibrillator who does not hold current certification in CPR/Basic Life Support, these machines are for paramedics or trained personnel. Are you planning to hold these courses for ushers? Judy Ollikkala, certified ARC Instructor for Adult CPR and Standard First Aid.  
(back) Subject: Re: DISASTERS!!! From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 09:25:25 -0600   Richard Pinel wrote: > the church in the morning with my teacher, and then at the full rehearsal in > the afternoon, the organ broke! A dreadful cipher on the swell - > AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! > > For about an hour I was frantically calling people I know who may have been > able to fix it. Luckily a friend who is an organ builder/tuner, he is   Yet another example of why the organist should know what's "behind the console..." and how to fix it. I've been trained to fix everything from tuning and ciphering magnets down to the swell shades, key contacts, the 16' Posuane, and, oh no, the balanced valves in the SubBass and Erzahler (both 16'). Of course, I will be starting a building apprenticeship soon, so I might be "more motivated" that others...   KRC    
(back) Subject: Re: Kiddie Organs From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 09:31:21 -0600   greg mcausland wrote:   > by the bug. So at least when they come to pull out the stop marked > 'Double Farty Shaker 32ft' they might do it in the right place.   I'll have to add that one to the custom console I plan to have built in 8 years... I think I'll sample a toilet flush, loop it, and derive it down to the appropriate tone...   krc    
(back) Subject: Re: Houston Skinner From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 11:10:30 EST   In a message dated 2/19/99 9:34:53 PM Central Standard Time, cremona84000@webtv.net writes:   << Many of the Skinner organs that I've heard "improved" by taking them out of the chambers actually suffered from this. Apparently EM knew how to use chambers to the organ's advantage. I, however, haven't heard chambers exchanged for a case, and would be interested to know it if really is an improvement. >>   At Incarnation, Dallas, Noack moved some of the organ out into the case - but most of the organ still remains in the chamber. Furthermore, he rebuilt the organ (from chests up - a new console, increased the wind pressure, trashed some ranks, and added others) so much so that it does not even resemble an Aeolian Skinner anymore.   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Kiddie Organs From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 10:14:56 -0600 (CST)   At 09:31 AM 2/20/99 -0600, Kevin Cartwright wrote: >greg mcausland wrote: > >> by the bug. So at least when they come to pull out the stop marked >> 'Double Farty Shaker 32ft' they might do it in the right place. > >I'll have to add that one to the custom console I plan to have built in >8 years... I think I'll sample a toilet flush, loop it, and derive it >down to the appropriate tone...   As an Organ Historical Society member I sincerely hope that you will make this a Haskell toilet flush. On January 16, 1900, William E. Haskell, Philadelphia organbuilder and inventor of the Haskell pipe, obtained U.S. Patent No. 641,509 for a toilet which automatically flushed when you got up off the seat. When I lived in Reading, Pa., there were still a few of them around. The seat is lowered an inch or two under the weight of the occupant, but when nature has taken its course and the occupant leaves it rises and opens the valve. The springing of this mechanism made it feel a little uncomfortably like sitting on jelly. The invention is illustrated in *The Tracker* 29:4:26, where David Fox and Bill Van Pelt describe it as "a kind of seat-activated 'general cancel' for a plumbing fixture."   John.    
(back) Subject: Re: A Very Real Health Concern For Elderly Congregations From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 08:35:11 -0800   Judy -- It's my understanding that this is a new generation of defibrillators, and that the major point is they DON'T have to be used by trained personnel, the major advantage BEING the rapid reponse time of police, etc.. As I mentioned in the original post, California had to change the law to allow for their use, but the association of cardiac specialists (MDs) were among those who lobbied the most for the change. I'm sure some kind of basic training course comes with, but I'll ask Karen to be sure ... as to St. Matthew's, we're blessed with several RNs and MDs who NEVER miss Mass.   Your concerns are valid, Judy ... I just think that this is a new way of dealing ...   Cheers,   Bud   Judy A. Ollikkala wrote:   > I would not advise anyone using the defibrillator who does not hold current > certification in CPR/Basic Life Support, these machines are for paramedics > or trained personnel. Are you planning to hold these courses for ushers? > Judy Ollikkala, certified ARC Instructor for Adult CPR and Standard First > Aid. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Church of the Gesu Kimball/Kilgen From: "Dominic Joseph Radanovich" <rpob@aero.net> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 12:11:38 -0600     -----Original Message----- From: LAMAR BOULET <lmar@hotmail.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat >Those days were the last few years of Kilgen. I worked with them up >until about a year before they went under. > > Lamar > > >======================================================   Lamar,   Were you in on the rebuild/installation of the big Kilgen IV/89 at Gesu in Milwaukee in the late '50's?   It had originally been a 3 manual Kimball and Kilgen rebuilt it adding a beautiful front of church Echo division and a powerful Solo, plus much other stuff.   Gesu is the huge Gothic Church on the Marquette University campus at 12th and Wisconsin Avenue.   I "cut my teeth" on the Kimball under the guidance of John Leicht. After the Kilgen was in, the pastor didn't want anyone practising on it because it cost to much per hour to run (according to him), so he had a Hammond "church model" placed next to the big Kilgen console.   The big Kilgen has been under a sort-of rebuild for the last 20 years! If it ever gets done it will be in the low hundreds 110-125 ranks. The organist is John Weissrock, who is in my estimation one of the best in the country, who plays in a wonderful French style. He is the rebuilder of this organ, but I hope we hear its' completion before we hear angelic trumpets!!!   Again, Lamar, were you in on this job?   D J Radanovich, Milwaukee >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: A Very Real Health Concern For Elderly Congregations From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 13:19:45 -0500   Appreciate your comments Bud, please be aware that an initial assessment regarding complete lack of Pulse along with No Breathing must be attained by someone competent to do so before any cardiac measures were to be taken, otherwise, serious medical complications would result, including malpractice suits. This device goes beyond the Good Samaritan Law, IMNSHO.