PipeChat Digest #725 - Saturday, February 27, 1999
 
Re: STOPS!!
  by "Matt Baker" <poinsettia@netxn.com>
Speaking of WANAMAKER...
  by "Matt Baker" <poinsettia@netxn.com>
Re: STOPS!!
  by <RSiegel920@aol.com>
Re: Stops!!!!
  by "Matt Baker" <poinsettia@netxn.com>
Fw: Speaking of WANAMAKER...
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Speaking of WANAMAKER...
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: Atlantic City
  by "Matt Baker" <poinsettia@netxn.com>
Re: Fw: New Job
  by <PipeLuvr@aol.com>
Re: New Job
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: Fw: New Job
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: WANAMAKER ORGAN
  by "Joe Vitacco" <jvitacco@interactive.net>
Re: Speaking of WANAMAKER...
  by "Joe Vitacco" <jvitacco@interactive.net>
RE: WANAMAKER ORGAN
  by "Charles Brown" <clmoney@cybernex.net>
Re: Stops!!!!
  by "Antoni Scott" <ascott@epix.net>
Re: STOPS!!
  by "Antoni Scott" <ascott@epix.net>
Re: WANAMAKER ORGAN
  by "V. David Barton" <vdbarton@erols.com>
Re: WANAMAKER ORGAN
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: Tape Recorder Help
  by "lynndee@vzinet.com" <lynndee@vzinet.com>
Re: STOPS!!
  by "Mark Hopper" <mahopper@bellsouth.net>
Re: New Job
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Speaking of WANAMAKER...
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Stops!!!!
  by "Matt Baker" <poinsettia@netxn.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: STOPS!! From: Matt Baker <poinsettia@netxn.com> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 02:39:41 -0800   Paul F. Stapel wrote:   > This post also refers a bit to the Dynamische Organs thread > > Walker Techonologies of Zion PA has been doing what you are dreaming of, > only even more sophisticatedly...If you haven't heard a Walker setup, you > will be amazed ..they are often literally recording EACH note of a real > rank   I've heard of organs like this before, just didn't know which companies. Truly the next-best thing to actual pipes. So basically what you got is a big fat sound card with lots of wavetable samples and a whole lot more polyphony than your average Sound Blaster! The big organ I'm looking at building for myself will be similar, only the mega-quality won't be there. My small organ will be straight analog. ....   > when the budget isn't there for all > pipe, a combination of pipe and digital works very well.   Pipe/electronic combo...probably using electronic for lower bass stops (where timbre is less important, also no big pipes) and maybe mixtures (again timbre less important, no need for hundreds of pipes, also they wouldn't go out of tune)...IMHO, at least   > Of course, automatic tuning plus thousands of other possibilities because > of the digital controling system make it possible to do almost anything > one wants to pay for!! > > Paul Stapel > Paul F. Stapel, 607 773 1495, FAX 607 772 6501, > Binghamton, NY > Organist, Piano Instructor, > Sales Director for WICKS Organ Company.   Does Wicks organ co. have a website?   -- < Transmit src: poinsettia@netxn.com ID1 LCARS Channel 1 Lineout > YuSeEkMeAtNo31101993 http://www.netxn.com/~poinsettia/index.html Pizza-Delivery Illustrated: http://members.xoom.com/hlrmatt/index.html      
(back) Subject: Speaking of WANAMAKER... From: Matt Baker <poinsettia@netxn.com> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 02:45:25 -0800   Is there a specification of the Wanamaker organ online anywhere that any of you know of? I've seen a site or two featuring the organ but no spec.   -- < Transmit src: poinsettia@netxn.com ID1 LCARS Channel 1 Lineout > YuSeEkMeAtNo31101993 http://www.netxn.com/~poinsettia/index.html Pizza-Delivery Illustrated: http://members.xoom.com/hlrmatt/index.html      
(back) Subject: Re: STOPS!! From: RSiegel920@aol.com Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 05:45:51 EST   http://www.wicks.com/organ  
(back) Subject: Re: Stops!!!! From: Matt Baker <poinsettia@netxn.com> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 03:08:49 -0800   CHERCAPA@aol.com wrote:   > Dear newbie, I wish to congratulate you for your enthusiasm and determi= nation. > I wish you the best of luck . Please keep us informed as your project b= ecomes > reality. Paul   Thanks! Whenever I get started I'll put info and updates on one of my we= bpages. The main reason I'm doing this is because I need something at home to pra= ctice on, and I want an organ I won't get bored with.   But I'll need info on a lot of stop sounds, preferably recorded clips I c= an reference here at home. I'm mainly wondering if any of you can help with= that part, most of you being organists and such. By way of example, the follo= wing stops. These are cut-&-pasted from a *preliminary* stoplist of the big o= rgan I'll want to build sometime in the future, I haven't made a stoplist for the a= nalog organ yet. I have descriptions of the sounds of almost all of these in m= y stop dictionary, but a description isn't the same as an audible example. A lo= t of these I can probably get from the organ at church, the others I'll need h= elp on. (The weird-named ones are custom, nevermind those. Also remember all this= is preliminary, it'll need tweaking for sure)   SWELL ORGAN: Enclosed on manual 3 69 stops   Contra Viole 16 Diapason 16 Fl=FBte D'Orchestre 16 Salicional 16 Rohrfl=F6te 16 Gamba 16 Gedeckt 16 Diapason 8 Salicional 8 Hohlfl=F6te 8 Rohrfl=F6te 8 Holzfl=F6te 8 Gamba 8 Gedeckt 8 Viola 8 Viola Celeste 8 Viola Aetheria 8 Viole D'Orchestre 8 Fl=FBte D'Orchestre 8 Fl=FBte Harmonique 8 Voix Celeste 8 Vox Angelica 8 Rohrquint 5 1/3 Quint 5 1/3 Octave 4 Hohlfl=F6te 4 Rohrfl=F6te 4 Holzfl=F6te 4 Violetta 4 Viole D'Orchestre 4 Viole Celeste 4 Nason Flute 4 Fl=FBte Harmonique 4 Bakerfl=F6te 4 (Why can't I? There's a "Cor de Schuller" in the Cryst= al Cathedral organ!!) Vox Angelica 4 Salicet 4 Rohrnasat 2 2/3 Nazard 2 2/3 Blockfl=F6te 2 Rohrfl=F6te 2 Super Octave 2 Salicetina 2 Tierce 1 3/5 Larigot 1 1/3 Plein Jeu IV Sesquialtera III Guardian III String Mixture III Synthstring Chorus VI Fagotto 16 Vox Baryton 16 Holzregal 16 Rohr Schalmei 8 Vox Humana 8 Vox Baryton 8 Fagotto 8 Cornopean 8 Hautbois 8 Hautbois d'Amore 8 Asitrade 8 Asitrade Celeste 8 Holzregal 8 Singend Regal 8 Fagotto 4 Rohr Schalmei 4 Vox Humana 4 Vox Enfant 4 Hautbois 4 Kornett 2   -- < Transmit src: poinsettia@netxn.com ID1 LCARS Channel 1 Lineout > YuSeEkMeAtNo31101993 http://www.netxn.com/~poinsettia/index.html Pizza-Delivery Illustrated: http://members.xoom.com/hlrmatt/index.html      
(back) Subject: Fw: Speaking of WANAMAKER... From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 06:41:36 -0500   Theatre Organ home page should have one.     -----Original Message----- From: Matt Baker <poinsettia@netxn.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 5:45 AM Subject: Speaking of WANAMAKER...     >Is there a specification of the Wanamaker organ online anywhere that any >of you know of? I've seen a site or two featuring the organ but no >spec. > >-- >< Transmit src: poinsettia@netxn.com ID1 LCARS Channel 1 Lineout > >YuSeEkMeAtNo31101993 http://www.netxn.com/~poinsettia/index.html >Pizza-Delivery Illustrated: http://members.xoom.com/hlrmatt/index.html > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Speaking of WANAMAKER... From: David Scribner <david@blackiris.com> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 06:22:03 -0600   At 2:45 AM -0800 2/27/99, Matt Baker wrote: >Is there a specification of the Wanamaker organ online anywhere that any >of you know of? I've seen a site or two featuring the organ but no >spec. >   The Wanamaker Stoplist is at: http://www.tneorg.com/wanamaker/stoplist.html   You should also check out the World's Largest Organ at: http://www.acchos.org - The 7 Manual Midmer-Losh Organ in the Atlantic City Convention Hall.   David ********************** David Scribner Director of Communications Atlantic City Convention Hall Organ Society http://www.acchos.org/ info@acchos.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Atlantic City From: Matt Baker <poinsettia@netxn.com> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 04:36:58 -0800       David Scribner wrote:   > You should also check out the World's Largest Organ at: > http://www.acchos.org - The 7 Manual Midmer-Losh Organ in the Atlantic City > Convention Hall.   I've known about this site for quite some time now. I tried loading up the site a bunch of times these past few weeks but couldn't. I'm glad you reminded me, I almost gave up on it. For a while I thought it was dead, and ACCHOS along with it. Thank goodness that's not the case (!), because this is an organ I would really, really like to see made fully functional.   -- < Transmit src: poinsettia@netxn.com ID1 LCARS Channel 1 Lineout > YuSeEkMeAtNo31101993 http://www.netxn.com/~poinsettia/index.html Pizza-Delivery Illustrated: http://members.xoom.com/hlrmatt/index.html      
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: New Job From: PipeLuvr@aol.com Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:18:46 EST   In a message dated 2/27/99 3:21:39 AM Central Standard Time, dutchorgan@svs.net writes:   > Would these so-called " Redneckville " gospel churches REALLY appreciate > good music ?   Wow, so now we are going to define "good music" for our brethren . . . that should really endear organists and organ music to them! Me fears another MIDI keyboard epidemic is on the way . . .   Best wishes, Bob Acker Redneckville  
(back) Subject: Re: New Job From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:23:37 -0600   Paul F. Stapel wrote:   > AND NOW YOU KNOW WHY SO MANY ORGANISTS IN BIG TIME CITIES ARE NOT FROM > THEM!! ( I can't reaiily prove this point but it is reasonable!!)   You can place my case in the record...I'm leaving Greenville at first chance.   krc        
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: New Job From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 07:28:23 -0600   PipeLuvr@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 2/27/99 3:21:39 AM Central Standard Time, > dutchorgan@svs.net writes: > > > Would these so-called " Redneckville " gospel churches REALLY appreciate > > good music ? > > Wow, so now we are going to define "good music" for our brethren . . . that > should really endear organists and organ music to them! Me fears another MIDI > keyboard epidemic is on the way . . .   One already plagues our sanctuary. Sitting there, degrading the 8' Steinway. "BEAUTIFUL piano! Oh, but what's that ugly black thing beside it?"   krc Myvilleismoreredneckthanyourville      
(back) Subject: Re: WANAMAKER ORGAN From: jvitacco@interactive.net (Joe Vitacco) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:49:26 +0000   Keith Chapman is the organist and the playing is excellent.   Joe  
(back) Subject: Re: Speaking of WANAMAKER... From: jvitacco@interactive.net (Joe Vitacco) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:52:24 +0000   Not on line that I know of but Ray has put together a great book on the history of the organ that has lots of photo and the stop list.   It is available by clicking on Wanamaker CDs at www.greatorgancds.com   Joe  
(back) Subject: RE: WANAMAKER ORGAN From: "Charles Brown" <clmoney@cybernex.net> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:56:35 -0500   Who is the organist at Wanamakers now?   Charles E. Brown http://www.classicalcorner.com      
(back) Subject: Re: Stops!!!! From: Antoni Scott <ascott@epix.net> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 09:52:21 -0500   Hi Matt:   Your project to build a 400+ stop digital organ sounds enthusiastic !!! If you need to hear what stops sound like I suggest that you listen to the samples on the CD ROMS for people like me that download "stops" into their digital oragns. I recommend Universal Sound Bank "Church Organs" CD ROM. I have heard many samples and their's is probably the best commercially available.   I have two "keyboards" plus I made my own pedal division by hooking up a 32 note radiating pedalboard through a digital MIDI box into the back of one of my keyboards. I can practice at home with the same AGO standards as a real pipe organ. One of the nice things about my setup is that I can add "cathedral" reverberation that makes it close to the real thing.     Antoni   Matt Baker wrote: > > (Newbie alert!!!) > > I'm looking at building a couple of electronic organs, and I need stop > info. I'm already familiar with just about every stop name there is. (A > few years ago I researched a number of books with stop dictionaries and > compiled a big list of over 800 stops along with descriptions). The > problen: I don't know exactly what most of them *sound* like, although I > do have descriptions of a lot of them, they don't really help that > much. Obviously this is going to be a problem if I'm going to be > building an organ. I suppose I could *invent* a sound for each > stop...uh...no. :) What I need is recorded samples of as many diferent > pipes/stops (playing individual notes) I can find, so I can analyze the > waveforms/harmonic makeup of each and build the circuit that produces a > similar waveform accordingly. The first organ will be a smallish analog > w/3 manuals/60-80 stops or so. I'm not going for mega-quality, just > something with decent sound/size I can play at home. (The electronics > aren't a problem: I've fiddled with audio electronics since grade > school.) I'm also looking at building a big 4-manual 400+ stop digital > one later on! (Want to see a preliminary stoplist? :) > > So my real question is..... > Do any of you know of anything like a database of sampled pipes (on the > Internet or elsewhere), recordings demonstrating stops, any sort of > collection of sampled stops/pipes, etc? > We do have two 100+ rank organs in town, one at my church, the other at > a church I visit fairly often. Wha I'll try and do is just take a good > tape recorder and mike, hit record, and go to work one stop at a time, > 10-15 notes each stop. Problem is, I don't have a good recorder (well, > I guess I could just use my tape deck), or that much time really. Have > any of you done something like this? > > So why am I doing this? Cuz I want to. :) I've been fascinated by and > sort-of around organs since I was 3 so I think it's time I learned to > play. > > If you can help, thanks... > > -- > < Transmit src: poinsettia@netxn.com ID1 LCARS Channel 1 Lineout > > YuSeEkMeAtNo31101993 http://www.netxn.com/~poinsettia/index.html > Pizza-Delivery Illustrated: http://members.xoom.com/hlrmatt/index.html > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: STOPS!! From: Antoni Scott <ascott@epix.net> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 09:56:16 -0500   Hi Paul:   I would really like to hear these sampled sounds from Walker. How do I get in touch with them?   Antoni Scott   Paul F. Stapel wrote: > > This post also refers a bit to the Dynamische Organs thread > > Walker Techonologies of Zion PA has been doing what you are dreaming of, > only even more sophisticatedly...If you haven't heard a Walker setup, you > will be amazed ..they are often literally recording EACH note of a real > rank ( a LOT of Skinner, etc) recording its starts, holding and stop sounds > on digital chips (could not have been done until the recent huge expansion > in memory capability), making these sound available through high end > computers, amplifiers and speakers ( lots of them) and resulting in > instruments which can't really be called electronic anymore, even if that > is what oeprates them. I have delighted in fooling some of our most > prominent fine-eared organists through a WICKS we have in our area of > up-state New York... Care to listen yourself -- call!! Walker makes the > BEST of the digital re-productions around -- it's not cheap but definately > a LOT cheaper than pipe equivelents ---when the budget isn't there for all > pipe, a combination of pipe and digital works very well. > > Of course, automatic tuning plus thousands of other possibilities because > of the digital controling system make it possible to do almost anything > one wants to pay for!! > > Paul Stapel > Paul F. Stapel, 607 773 1495, FAX 607 772 6501, > Binghamton, NY > Organist, Piano Instructor, > Sales Director for WICKS Organ Company. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: WANAMAKER ORGAN From: "V. David Barton" <vdbarton@erols.com> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:21:07 -0500   I'm afraid not. Keith Chapman has been dead for a number of years. The present organist is Peter Richard Conti (or is it Conte?).   -----Original Message----- From: Joe Vitacco <jvitacco@interactive.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 8:44 AM Subject: Re: WANAMAKER ORGAN     >Keith Chapman is the organist and the playing is excellent. > >Joe > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: WANAMAKER ORGAN From: David Scribner <david@blackiris.com> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 09:31:35 -0600   Keith Chapman is the organist on these recording which are the so-called "Lost Recordings" of the organ. They are from radio broadcasts that he made during his lifetime.   The present organist is Peter Conte.   David   >I'm afraid not. Keith Chapman has been dead for a number of years. The >present organist is Peter Richard Conti (or is it Conte?). > >-----Original Message----- >From: Joe Vitacco <jvitacco@interactive.net> >To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 8:44 AM >Subject: Re: WANAMAKER ORGAN > > >>Keith Chapman is the organist and the playing is excellent. >> >>Joe >> >>"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >>PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >>HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >>List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >>Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> >> > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Tape Recorder Help From: lynndee@vzinet.com (lynndee@vzinet.com) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:47:45 -0600   Ralph try this url from Teac. Please keep in mind that the older the unit the harder it is to find manuals. But I believe the 4300 was a popular unit so you maybe in luck..     http://www.teac.com/ca/ca_ps.html   Ken Schofield MKRSProductions@mailexcite.com Aol IM: audiorus    
(back) Subject: Re: STOPS!! From: "Mark Hopper" <mahopper@bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:56:18 -0600   Paul F. Stapel said...     <Walker Techonologies of Zion PA has been doing what you are dreaming of, only even more sophisticatedly...>   I played an organ for several months that had 10 'ranks' of Walker electronics. Some of the stops (pedal 16' principal, swell III-IV Mixture) were astoundingly impressive. Others (all the reeds, pedal 16' violone, pedal 32' bourdon) were so bad that they were almost unusable. There were other problems as well. Three of the stops played incorrect pitches, so after seven months we had to have the president of Walker to come & sort things out. The people from the company were great to deal with, though. The organ builder handled most of this communication.   Perhaps the electronic ranks' most obvious weakness (as with any electronic additions) was in chorus. They used temp-tracking for tuning, so that wasn't the major concern--the timbres just didn't blend in chorus. The more organ used, the worse the blend was.   By the way, this organ was originally a two-manual Wicks, & it had 32 ranks of pipes to the 10 electronic ranks. After the rebuild, this was spread over three manuals.   PS - Our builder was RA Colby out of Tennessee--GREAT people to work with. I recommend the Colbys highly!   Thanks! Mark mahopper@bigfoot.com      
(back) Subject: Re: New Job From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 12:41:53 -0500 (EST)       Jason D. Comet wrote: >I'm getting a new job. It's at the > Congregational Church here in town. > Emmanuel Congregational Church.   Kevin C wrote: >Now, reach WAYYYYY down and help those > of us who live in small towns of 12,500, and > who can't get an organist job bacause 85 > year-old "Mrs. Mildred," who can belt out > those gospel tunes with occasional pedal, has > a job at every church, no matter what kind of > organ there is. (snip out more whining and bellyaching!)   Kevin (and other young people entering the job market) Almost every person in most occupations must "pay their dues" before their career takes off and they can get a job. Actually, (and I say this from experience) you should be using your early years to get a good education and experience in church music. Experience is best obtained by experiencing it! Sing in choirs of accomplished musicians: you will learn choral literature, organ literature, hymns, service playing, etc. Most importantly, you will learn from exmple how to deal with people in and out of rehearsal. Hopefully, you are still living at home or school dormitory and under parental support, so that money is not crucial. You will have plenty of time to worry about making a living without jumping in so early.   In addition, all organists must learn to play music that the people who are paying their salary want to hear. Music is music, and all music has it's own attraction and enjoyability. Church musicians, especially, must be flexible and well-rounded. There is no longer room for snobs. The churches will not tolerate it, no matter how wonderful the music is or how well you play.   If the pipe organ is to survive as a recital instrument or a church instrument, organists must be well rounded musicians and considerate of their listeners. But, possibly unfortunately, even more important, you must be a nice person. The people who scream "do your own thing and be who you are" are not including others in their mandate. There is a great lesson to be learned from the chamellion!   Being mean, inconsiderate, negatively demonstrative, and arrogant may be "funny at the time" but when the laughter is over the hook is around your neck and you're off the stage. Almost every organist has pulled these little fits somewhere along the line, but our more permissive and tolerant society no longer permits or tolerates this. Dang... go figure! Makes no sense, but that's the way it is.   Just some munchies for thought!   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net    
(back) Subject: Re: Speaking of WANAMAKER... From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:06:17 -0500 (EST)     And there is still time to visit, hear, see and crawl the Wanamaker, along with two of the largest TO's on the NE Coast on our Spring get-away! (See my earlier posting)   Reservations can still be had by private e-mail.   Deadline Monday PM (EST)   John V      
(back) Subject: Re: Stops!!!! From: Matt Baker <poinsettia@netxn.com> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 10:40:28 -0800   Antoni Scott wrote:   > Hi Matt: > > Your project to build a 400+ stop digital organ sounds enthusiastic !!! > If you need to hear what stops sound like I suggest that you listen to > the samples on the CD ROMS for people like me that download "stops" into > their digital oragns. I recommend Universal Sound Bank "Church Organs" > CD ROM. I have heard many samples and their's is probably the best > commercially available.   Where are these generally available at? Music stores? At about what cost (US $)? Also, you'll probably want to know that I don't have any professional equipment (keyboards, etc). Are these CD-Roms something you can use on a PC, like a SoundFont bank? This CD does sound like it would take care of most of what I need. How many stops are sampled on them, or the "Church organs" one?   > I have two "keyboards" plus I made my own pedal division by hooking up a > 32 note radiating pedalboard through a digital MIDI box into the back of > one of my keyboards. I can practice at home with the same AGO standards > as a real pipe organ. One of the nice things about my setup is that I > can add "cathedral" reverberation that makes it close to the real thing.   I was thinking about doing something similar to this with the smaller analog organ I'll build first.   I might make my big organ portable, with a "console" that looks like a regular drawknob console when assembled but can be taken apart into a lot of smaller pieces and packed (the framework, panels, stop jambs, manuals, bench, pedalboard, the platform-thing-on-wheels, etc. all would be separate, then reassembled whereever the organ would be used) As far as the insides, what I'll most likely do is just use an ordinary PC and build interface cards (PCI and ISA) for the key switches, stops, combinations, and all the "tracker action", and a dumbed-down set of wavetable synths all of which I could probably easily build out of discrete ICs. For each "rank", I'd just store samples for different notes in ROM (probably not mega-quality samples, but something that's at least like the speaking characteristics of pipes to an extent), that way there's not the extra hardware/CPU time for custom playback frequencies. Octaves are easy to come by: just play it half or twice the speed, etc. Theen each note from each stop will be assignable to one or more channels, that way you can have two adjacent notes on different channels to help elinimate undulation, and also you could send everything to just 1 or 2 speakers or spread it out among 80, depending on how many you have room for. Doing it with PCs should make a lot of it just a matter of programming.   -- < Transmit src: poinsettia@netxn.com ID1 LCARS Channel 1 Lineout > YuSeEkMeAtNo31101993 http://www.netxn.com/~poinsettia/index.html Pizza-Delivery Illustrated: http://members.xoom.com/hlrmatt/index.html