PipeChat Digest #672 - Monday, January 25, 1999
 
Re: CAD Software/AutoCad for pipe organ design.
  by <DEMPAR1@aol.com>
New appointment
  by "greg mcausland" <greg@gaybrighton.freeserve.co.uk>
to Gary Black:   Wangerin Organ
  by "Dominic Joseph Radanovich" <rpob@aero.net>
Re: New appointment
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: CAD Software/AutoCad for pipe organ design.
  by "Rick \"OrganPlayer\" Locher" <rick.locher@gte.net>
Music Directors
  by "Chris Mullen" <nascarfreak1039@hotmail.com>
Re: Music Directors
  by "Nelson and Tracy Denton" <ndenton@cgocable.net>
RE: Music Directors
  by "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net>
Music Directors
  by "Chris Mullen" <nascarfreak1039@hotmail.com>
Church musicians
  by "Chris Mullen" <nascarfreak1039@hotmail.com>
Re: Music Directors
  by "Travis Evans" <tle6399@seward.cune.edu>
music directors
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Church Musicians
  by "Chris Mullen" <nascarfreak1039@hotmail.com>
Re: music directors
  by "Chris Mullen" <nascarfreak1039@hotmail.com>
Re: Music Directors
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: Music Directors
  by "Chris Mullen" <nascarfreak1039@hotmail.com>
RE: Music Directors
  by "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net>
Music Directors
  by "Chris Mullen" <nascarfreak1039@hotmail.com>
Re: Music Directors
  by "Chris Mullen" <nascarfreak1039@hotmail.com>
Re: Church Musicians
  by "Nelson and Tracy Denton" <ndenton@cgocable.net>
RE: Music Directors
  by "Chris Mullen" <nascarfreak1039@hotmail.com>
Re: Music Directors
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: CAD Software/AutoCad for pipe organ design. From: DEMPAR1@aol.com Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 07:25:40 EST   For those who do not want to purchase a full copy of Autocad V14, which runs around $4000, AutoCad makes an abbreviated program called AutoCad Lite. This sells for $300-$350 at most computer reseller outlets and has much of the functionality of the full version. We have used AutoCad Lite for producing commercial building plans and it works great.  
(back) Subject: New appointment From: "greg mcausland" <greg@gaybrighton.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:15:16 -0000   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BE486D.2194FD40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Greg McAusland has the pleasure of informing Pipechat of his recent = appointment as organist and director of music at the Parish Church of = St. Barnabas, Hove, UK taking effect from the 1st February 1999. Greg = is also currently resident organist of the Downs Crematorium, Brighton.   Brief details of the church and the three manual Noble & Son of = Shepherds Bush, London (rebuild Morgan & Smith of Brighton) can be = obtained from his website at: http://www.zyworld.com/gregmusic.   The organ contains a stop labelled Keraulophon 8ft on the Great. I = understand that the stop is prevelent on American organs particuarly = theatre instruments. I would interested for any additional information = conccerning this stop.   ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BE486D.2194FD40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD>   <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Greg McAusland has the pleasure of = informing=20 Pipechat of his recent appointment as organist and director of music at = the=20 Parish Church of St. Barnabas, Hove, UK taking effect from the 1st = February=20 1999.&nbsp; Greg is also currently resident organist of the Downs = Crematorium,=20 Brighton.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Brief details of the church and the = three manual=20 Noble &amp; Son of Shepherds Bush, London (rebuild Morgan &amp; Smith of =   Brighton) can be obtained from his website at:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20 href=3D"http://www.zyworld.com/gregmusic">http://www.zyworld.com/gregmusi= c</A>.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>The organ contains a stop labelled Keraulophon 8ft = on the=20 Great.&nbsp; I understand that the stop is prevelent on American organs=20 particuarly theatre instruments.&nbsp; I would interested for any = additional=20 information conccerning this stop.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BE486D.2194FD40--    
(back) Subject: to Gary Black: Wangerin Organ From: "Dominic Joseph Radanovich" <rpob@aero.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:50:39 -0600   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE4858.EDCE6140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Gary, You are putting a Wangerin into your home. I would be glad to talk to = you about it, but you left no Email address, and your inquiry was sent = directly to my Email address. So I'm not sure if you will even see this = message. If you do see it please send your Email address so we can = communicate directly. =20 I have a great amount of Wangerin inventory: pipes, chests, etc. They were excellent organs and terribly underrated. Unfortunately there = are fewer of them all the time. Thank you. D J Radanovich (rpob@aero.net OR: josephradanovich@hotmail.net)=20 Radanovich Pipe Organs, Milwaukee=20   ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE4858.EDCE6140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD>   <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Gary,</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>&nbsp; You are putting a = Wangerin into=20 your home.&nbsp; I would be glad to talk to you about it, but you left = no Email=20 address, and your inquiry was sent directly to my Email address.&nbsp; = So I'm=20 not sure if you will even see this message.&nbsp; If you do see it = please send=20 your Email address so we can communicate directly.&nbsp; = </FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 = size=3D2></FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT=20 color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I have a great amount of Wangerin = inventory:&nbsp; pipes,=20 chests, etc.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 = size=3D2></FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT=20 size=3D2>They were excellent organs and terribly underrated.&nbsp; = Unfortunately=20 there are fewer of them all the time.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thank = you.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>D J Radanovich&nbsp; (<A=20 href=3D"mailto:rpob@aero.net">rpob@aero.net</A>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20 OR:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20 href=3D"mailto:josephradanovich@hotmail.net">josephradanovich@hotmail.net= </A>)=20 </FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Radanovich Pipe Organs, = Milwaukee=20 </FONT></STRONG></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE4858.EDCE6140--    
(back) Subject: Re: New appointment From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:58:27 -0500 (EST)   Congrats on your new post. The organ looks like a real treasure. My experience with Kerauphons is that they are quite similar to Salicionals. Keep us posted with what your doing in your new spot.   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net    
(back) Subject: Re: CAD Software/AutoCad for pipe organ design. From: "Rick \"OrganPlayer\" Locher" <rick.locher@gte.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:54:54 -0600   Yes, I would like to view this 3-D image! Thanks, Rick -----Original Message----- From: MWORGLBAU@aol.com <MWORGLBAU@aol.com> To: PIPORG-L@CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU <PIPORG-L@CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU>; pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org>; gfhenderson@earthlink.net <gfhenderson@earthlink.net> Date: Monday, January 25, 1999 3:48 AM Subject: Re: CAD Software/AutoCad for pipe organ design.     >Dear Lists, > > Since similar postings appeared on 2 lists, and to insure that everyone >that was interested gets this I'm posting the following message to both of the >lists. > > "You can use a CAD program to do sample layouts; produce circles that >match >the pipe diameters and then move them around to see what seems to work. >Then, print or plot a full-sized version and stand some pipes on it to see >what it *really* looks like! Or, you can use the time-honored scheme of >making cardboard circles (again, matching the pipe diameters) and placing >them into various configurations to see what you can make fit." > > In actuality, there is even a simpler way. There is a computer programme >called "Ktesibios" which is put out by the owner's son of Gladder-Gotz organ >(the company that recently built the new organ for the UCC church in Claremont >California). The programme can layout a 5 stop windchest in about 10 minutes >(mind you this is a slider chest but the information can be useful for other >types of chest layouts; and they plan to make some changes where you will be >able to layout different types of chests in the future). Once the layout is >done the layout file can be save as a .dxf file, and be imported into a CAD >programme (such as AutoCAD), and be manipulated as needed. It is an expensive >programme, but if you are a professional organbuilder that does build their >own chests, it's worth the price. I know that it's being used by Organ Supply, >Casavant, and Glatter-Gotz (as well as ourselves) If you are interested in the >programme they have a web site: www.techsoftdesign.com. > > "In some notes here many years ago, organ builder Allan Onkto suggested >much >thicker toeboards, on the order of 1-3/4" or so" > > I would agree with this, no matter what style of chest is being built. > > "Speaking of CAD programs, does anyone know of any available specifically >for >pipe organ layout and design?" > > Other than what I mentioned above, I don't think so. > > "So, I've simply produced my own symbols as needed." > > That's wonderful. It would be nice if someone would host a site that >everyone could share each others symbol library's. In AutoCAD, a symbol is >saved as a 'block' which can be inserted into any drawing, and can be sized >before insertion. It can be as simple as a magnet to an entire windchest or >case section. Also Heuss offers .dxf files of all of their tracker parts. > > "It might be fun to produce 3D drawings of a proposed instrument and then >"fly" through it, but that is much more complex." > > I have a 3-D drawing of a recent instrument that we worked on that I >would be willing to share, but I think that most people would find a 3D >drawing of one of our pitman chests more interesting. Those of you who want a >copy, just ask. Don't worry if you don't have AutoCAD to view it. I will >include the directions for where you can download a free utility from AutoCAD >that will allow you to view, pan, zoom, and rotate to different views the >chest. > > "Can anyone suggest a good CAD program for WINDOWS 95-98?" > > I use AutoCAD 14.01, and am quite happy. It's a very complex programme >(the most complex programme that I own), and the learning curve is quite >steep, but it's well worth it. It really does a lot, but has a hefty price >tag. Would recommend it to any organbuilder. > > Hope that this helps. > > >Michael R. Williamson >Williamson-Warne & Associates >Hollywood Ca. > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Music Directors From: "Chris Mullen" <nascarfreak1039@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:10:06 PST   Dear List:   Are there any of you out there that are full-time church music directors?? Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod especially?? I am a student at Concordia University-Seward, Nebraska and I'm studying to be a full time church musician, and I'd kinda like to know what I'm getting myself into. If anyone can help me out by telling me exactly what I'm supposed to as a music director, I'd appreciate it greatly!   Chris Mullen   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Music Directors From: Nelson and Tracy Denton <ndenton@cgocable.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:43:45 -0500   Chris Mullen wrote: > > Dear List: I'm studying to be a full > time church musician, and I'd kinda like to know what I'm getting myself > into. If anyone can help me out by telling me exactly what I'm supposed > to do as a music director, I'd appreciate it greatly!   Aww folks! Don't go and spoil the kids naive dreams of becoming a famous well paid and well loved servant of God.   Let him get so deep in debt with his studies that any job will seem like a blessing, and he'll never notice that he's been had as a "Church Music Director"   Blessed is the lowly Church Musician. As poor as they are in awareness of their lot in life, their only reward will be to inherit the second worst job* in town.   *Organ servicemen have the worst as we get to serve the lowly church musician.         Nelson E. Denton -The Pipe Organ Tracker Project, The worlds largest collection of organ related links - http://members.xoom.com/radentonson & Canadian Musical Instrument Heritage. http://www.freeyellow.com/members4/cmih -  
(back) Subject: RE: Music Directors From: "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:51:07 -0700   Nelson Denton wrote:   > Aww folks! Don't go and spoil the kids naive dreams of becoming a famous > well paid and well loved servant of God. > > Let him get so deep in debt with his studies that any job will seem like > a blessing, and he'll never notice that he's been had as a "Church Music > Director" > > Blessed is the lowly Church Musician. As poor as they are in awareness > of their lot in life, their only reward will be to inherit the second > worst job* in town. > > *Organ servicemen have the worst as we get to serve the lowly church > musician.   First, I apologize for the extensive quote. But it was necessary to establish my comments.   Nelson, if you're so down on the church music and organ service/building professions, why are you involved in them? Surely someone with the wisdom to make these astute observations has talent and ability in more rewarding fields?   I'm fortunate in that I'm not good enough to hold down a full time job as a church musician, so I have to work a regular job to allow me the pleasure of serving as a church music director. Between the two jobs, I put in close to 60 hours a week. But a lot of the church music time is spent practicing, and I'd do that anyway, or going to church, someplace I'd be anyway, so I don't look at it as wasted. Second worst job in town? Nope. It's all in the eye of the beholder. Sounds like you need to behold something else.   Dennis Goward Minister of Music St Paul Lutheran Church LCMS Phoenix, AZ    
(back) Subject: Music Directors From: "Chris Mullen" <nascarfreak1039@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:07:46 PST   Nelson and/or Tracy Denton wrote:   Aww folks! Don't go and spoil the kids naive dreams of becoming a famous well paid and well loved servant of God. Let him get so deep in debt with his studies that any job will seem like a blessing, and he'll never notice that he's been had as a "Church Music Director "Blessed is the lowly Church Musician. As poor as they are in awareness of their lot in life, their only reward will be to inherit the second worst job* in town. *Organ servicemen have the worst as we get to serve the lowly church musician.     GEE THANKS!!! That sure makes me feel good about what I'm going to be doing for the rest of my life! All this time I thought I was gonna be paid royally!! Not really! I have never in my life expected to be "rich and famous" in my profession. The only reason I'm going into the work I am is because God gave me the gift to play the organ, and this is the only way I see fit to repay him for that gift. Now I can understand why church musicians are so "lowly" and often not liked in their churches. An attitude like that! If they are so unhappy with their "lot in life", why don't they just get another job?   All I was doing was asking for some information about my career. I didn't expect to get shot down in the process. Thanks a lot.   Chris Mullen   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Church musicians From: "Chris Mullen" <nascarfreak1039@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:09:07 PST   Thanks Dennis!!!   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Music Directors From: Travis Evans <tle6399@seward.cune.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:15:32 -0500 (CDT)       I am also studying Church music with Chris, we are going into this profession, not for the money, we realize that these positions are not the best paying jobs. We are doing this because of out love of being a musician, and using our God given talents. We hope to be able to be a part of worship services, and enrich the services with music. If you ask anyone after a service the biggest part of the service they remember is the music. I know of several congregations after an improvement in the music, or instrument, they were able to show an increase in attendance.   Now, I don't see how being a church musician is the 'worst' job in town. I am currently an organist, and choir director at a small church gaining much needed experience while going to school, and I look forward to every rehearsal, and service I am able to participate in. I have many members of the congregation that come up to me after the service and thank me for playing. To me that is worth more than the money I receive.   Travis Evans   tle6399@seward.cune.edu   "When I hear music, I fear no evil"   On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Nelson and Tracy Denton wrote:   > > Aww folks! Don't go and spoil the kids naive dreams of becoming a famous > well paid and well loved servant of God. > > Let him get so deep in debt with his studies that any job will seem like > a blessing, and he'll never notice that he's been had as a "Church Music > Director" > > Blessed is the lowly Church Musician. As poor as they are in awareness > of their lot in life, their only reward will be to inherit the second > worst job* in town. > > *Organ servicemen have the worst as we get to serve the lowly church > musician. >      
(back) Subject: music directors From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:16:43 -0500   Chris... Don't let anybody get you down. Some people are insensative to others' feelings, and that is not fair. Pursue your God-given talents, and may HE be with you.   Rick Veague dutchorgan@svs.net    
(back) Subject: Church Musicians From: "Chris Mullen" <nascarfreak1039@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:20:26 PST   Gee, I didn't know I was gonna cause this much of a stir up!! Oh, by the way, thanks Travis!   Chris Mullen   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: music directors From: "Chris Mullen" <nascarfreak1039@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:23:52 PST     Rick Veague wrote: >Chris... Don't let anybody get you down. Some people are insensative to >others' feelings, and that is not fair. >Pursue your God-given talents, and may HE be with you.   Thank you Rick! I intend to pursue what I am doing not because of any fortune or fame. As I well know, there is none. But the gift of music is from God, and he has bestowed that gift upon me. I am very thankful for the abilities God gave me. I just wanted to thank you for your positive remarks.   Chris Mullen     "You know you're a music student when the members of your graduating class were freshman when you were a senior"   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Music Directors From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:23:27 EST       OMG!!!! Couldnt any one else besides me see that Nelson's answer was very "tongue in cheek" Have we become so "politically correct" that we cannot tolerate any wry humour?????   --Roc  
(back) Subject: Re: Music Directors From: "Chris Mullen" <nascarfreak1039@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:28:01 PST         Ben Baldus wrote: > >I suggest you inquire of Charles Ore. He's been everywhere done >everything. Another source, albeit, a bit impersonal is John Bertalot's video, "Five Wheels of Sight Singing." The latter offers a lot in between the lines about that which distinguishes a a church musician from one who happens to be serving a church. If you want my personal opinions, please give me a call at the following >telephone numbers: > >(517) 886-9963 Home >(517) 321-7663 Work >(517) 321-8247 Fax > >All the best, > >Ben Baldus > Thank you Ben! If I have the time and/or money, I intend to give you a call! I am currently studying under Dr. Ore at Concordia-Seward. He happens to be my favorite professor out of all the Concordia staff. I haven't had a chance to really talk to him about the aspects of being a full time church musician, but I intend to. And I also intend to take your advice! Thanks much!!!     Chris Mullen     "You know you're a music major when the members of your graduating class were freshman when you were a senior"   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: RE: Music Directors From: "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:30:19 -0700   > The only reason I'm going into the work I am is because God gave me the gift to play the > organ, and this is the only way I see fit to repay him for that gift. Now I can understand > why church musicians are so "lowly" and often not liked in their > churches. An attitude like that! If they are so unhappy with their > "lot in life", why don't they just get another job?   Let me make something clear -- this is not a student of mine, nor my own child, but I wish that were the case! I like the was this one thinks. This rings with ideas like "gifts", "God", "ministry".   I predict a wonderful ministry for this CHURCH MUSICIAN. I also recommend flame-retardant underwear if you're going to spend time on most boards. With ideas like these, you'll need it!   Dennis Goward    
(back) Subject: Music Directors From: "Chris Mullen" <nascarfreak1039@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:30:18 PST   Dear List and Alan:   Thank you for the tip! I intend on subscribing to that this evening!   Chris Mullen   "You know you're a music major when the members of your graduating class were freshmen when you were a senior"   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Music Directors From: "Chris Mullen" <nascarfreak1039@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:33:46 PST   It was written:   >OMG!!!! Couldnt any one else besides me see that Nelson's answer was very >"tongue in cheek" Have we become so "politically correct" that we cannot >tolerate any wry humour????? > >--Roc     I saw very little humor in what was written there. All I did was ask for some information, and it was almost if he were trying to dissuade me from the job just because there is no "fortune and fame" in it. That is NOT what matters as far as church music is concerned. As a parish musician, I will NOT be working for the congregation, or the board of elders, or the pastor himself. I will be working for GOD, the most important employer of all. He gives me life and breath, and all that I need. THAT my friend is what matters.   Chris Mullen   "You know you're a music major when the members of your graduating class were freshmen when you were a senior"       ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Church Musicians From: Nelson and Tracy Denton <ndenton@cgocable.net> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:40:19 -0500   Chris Mullen wrote: > > Gee, I didn't know I was gonna cause this much of a stir up!   Well at least I got you all thinking and stirred up a bit of your pride.   Things have been a bit dull around here lately. :-)))       -- Nelson E. Denton -The Pipe Organ Tracker Project, The worlds largest collection of organ related links - http://members.xoom.com/radentonson & Canadian Musical Instrument Heritage. http://www.freeyellow.com/members4/cmih -  
(back) Subject: RE: Music Directors From: "Chris Mullen" <nascarfreak1039@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:38:42 PST   Dennis Goward wrote: >Let me make something clear -- this is not a student of mine, nor my own child, but I wish that were the case! I like the was this one thinks. This rings with ideas like "gifts", "God", "ministry". I predict a wonderful ministry for this CHURCH MUSICIAN. I also recommend flame-retardant underwear if you're going to spend time on most boards. >With ideas like these, you'll need it! > >Dennis Goward     Thanks Dennis!! I appreciate the compliment, but it is truly the way I feel. And also, thanks for the humor!! ;-)   Chris Mullen   "You know you're a music major when the members of your graduating class were freshmen when you were a senior"   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Music Directors From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:40:55 -0600 (CST)   At 09:07 PM 1/25/99 PST, Chris Mullen wrote:   >GEE THANKS!!! That sure makes me feel good about what I'm going to be >doing for the rest of my life! All this time I thought I was gonna be >paid royally!! Not really! I have never in my life expected to be >"rich and famous" in my profession.   A while ago I read a book about dogs (Bruce Cornely will appreciate this!) though I must confess to having forgotten the author and the name of the book. Anyway the author had done a great deal of research and had determined that what most dogs crave for is not power, or sex, or anything else, but rather the respect of other dogs. I suspect that most humans are the same as dogs, and that what most of us crave is not power or money, but to be appreciated and respected by our fellow human beings. I think that even if great riches are not possible for organists or organ builders, what we most desire is something that is well within the realm of the possible.   John.