PipeChat Digest #681 - Friday, January 29, 1999
 
Re: Final word on liturgy/music
  by <Afreed0904@aol.com>
Re: Pipe organs and related subjects
  by <WRansomeJr@aol.com>
Re: !!!!!!
  by <Afreed0904@aol.com>
Re: Cheryl Hart's comments
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
RE: Final word on liturgy/music
  by "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net>
RE: Cheryl Hart's comments
  by "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net>
RE: Cheryl Hart's comments
  by "Charles Brown" <clmoney@cybernex.net>
emotion vs knowledge
  by "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net>
Washington DC Recital Jan. 31
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
Re: Music Directors
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinel@theatreorgans.com>
Re:Cheryl's Articulate Comments...
  by "Mark Hopper" <mahopper@bellsouth.net>
To the person that quoted the rules...
  by "Mark Hopper" <mahopper@bellsouth.net>
Re: RE: Final word on liturgy/music
  by <Afreed0904@aol.com>
Re: Final word on liturgy/music
  by "Jim H" <BALD1@prodigy.net>
Re: I need help
  by "Jim H" <BALD1@prodigy.net>
10 Commandments for organbuilders
  by "J S VANDERSTAD" <dcob@nac.net>
Re: I need help
  by "Travis Evans" <tle6399@seward.cune.edu>
MP Moller Opus 4920, inst. 1927
  by "J S VANDERSTAD" <dcob@nac.net>
Re: MP Moller Opus 4920, inst. 1927
  by "Antoni Scott" <ascott@epix.net>
Reference Book
  by "Rick \"OrganPlayer\" Locher" <rick.locher@gte.net>
Re: MP Moller Opus 4920, inst. 1927
  by "Jim Filsinger" <kimballl@yahoo.com>
Fw: Reference Book
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Schopp's in Ohio
  by "Kevin Cartwright" <kevin1@alaweb.com>
Re: Reference Book
  by <RMc7832619@aol.com>
Re: I need help
  by <Afreed0904@aol.com>
The TRULY new LCMS Hymnal
  by <Pepehomer@aol.com>
Re: The TRULY new LCMS Hymnal
  by "Travis Evans" <tle6399@seward.cune.edu>
Re: The TRULY new LCMS Hymnal
  by <Pepehomer@aol.com>
Re: The TRULY new LCMS Hymnal
  by <WRansomeJr@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Final word on liturgy/music From: Afreed0904@aol.com Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 10:33:33 EST     In a message dated 1/26/99 2:35:56 AM, BALD1@prodigy.net writes:   >While LCMS pastors carry a lot of weight in how the service is >delivered, they are not the ultimate and final word.   Dear Jim H:   I'm not LCMS, but ELCA, but suspect that you are right--until that last line. Then I'm not sure. So who, then, "ARE" the ultimate and final word?   Alan Freed  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe organs and related subjects From: WRansomeJr@aol.com Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:23:40 EST   In a message dated 1/27/99 8:29:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, dgoward@uswest.net writes:   > > I must have missed something -- I don't quite know what prompted this, > but I have to say I agree with what he's saying, even if I don't know why > he's saying it.   Somewhere along the way during this long and diverse thread somebody on pipechat thought it had gone too far and gotten off topic because a lot of the comments had gotten away from the "organ proper."   The point was that judging from the high number of responses that it was indeed appropriate fodder, and in fact much of this is what is going to continue to determine our future as organists, organbuilders, etc.... Scary though it may seem, what is it going to be like a hundred years down the road?  
(back) Subject: Re: !!!!!! From: Afreed0904@aol.com Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:26:00 EST     In a message dated 1/26/99 11:27:07 AM, clmoney@cybernex.net writes:   >I can't wait for the flames I am going to get on this one!!!!!!! > >Expected....and usual!!!!! > >Dr. Charles E. Brown   Relax, for Pete's sake. You and I are a peculiar combination. I agree with you so much on some things, and disagree so utterly with you on others. But if I HAD to flame you it would be for your gratuitous !!!!!!!!!!!!! rather than for your opinions, which are always fun to toss around a bit! Relax!   Alan  
(back) Subject: Re: Cheryl Hart's comments From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:16:02 -0800         > 'Emotion is not a good foundation for faith' > > Without presuming to speak for Cheryl (and I seem to have missed the > beginning of this thread), I would assume she means that while > emotional responses to altar calls, great preaching, great music, etc. > are transitory, reason and intellect are the permanent foundations of > lasting faith. And I would agree with that. > > Bud Clark > > > >    
(back) Subject: RE: Final word on liturgy/music From: "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:12:13 -0700     > I'm not LCMS, but ELCA, but suspect that you are right--until > that last line. > Then I'm not sure. So who, then, "ARE" the ultimate and final word? > > Alan Freed >   I'm newly in the LCMS, and from what I've seen (at least in my congregation) the People themselves seem to be a final word.   I get the impression that if the congregation decided as a body to do the liturgy in Pig Latin to the tune of Spice Girl songs (God Forbid!) then that's just what they would do. They're a fiesty, independent bunch.   Dennis    
(back) Subject: RE: Cheryl Hart's comments From: "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:16:47 -0700   > > 'Emotion is not a good foundation for faith' > > I think this is something that's echoed in scripture, Jesus making the point that sometimes you have to stand on what you know, not what you feel.   In the Pentecostal Church that I go to, they do a lot on emotion. I think the entire worship service is planned around rousing the emotions to a certain level. But they have an expression that "you know that you know what you know" or something like that.   Emotion is not a good _foundation_, to be sure, but it's a great first step.   Dennis    
(back) Subject: RE: Cheryl Hart's comments From: "Charles Brown" <clmoney@cybernex.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:25:55 -0500   Dennis:   What scriptual passages is that quote from Christ from? I would like to read the whole passage.   Charles ------------------------------------   > > > 'Emotion is not a good foundation for faith' > > > > I think this is something that's echoed in scripture, Jesus making the > point that sometimes you have to stand on what you know, not what > you feel. > > In the Pentecostal Church that I go to, they do a lot on emotion. I think > the entire worship service is planned around rousing the emotions to a > certain level. But they have an expression that "you know that you know > what you know" or something like that. > > Emotion is not a good _foundation_, to be sure, but it's a great > first step. > > Dennis > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: emotion vs knowledge From: "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:29:45 -0700   > > What scriptual passages is that quote from Christ from? I would > like to read > the whole passage.   You would ask. I've been wondering myself ever since my codine-fogged brain (cough syrup) leaked that phrase. Perhaps it was a preacher's take on something Jesus said, or maybe it wasn't Jesus but one of the apostles.   Jesus talked about faith, though, and if you look at the various references to faith, you see that it generally means something based on knowing rather than feeling.   Forgive me on the exact quotes. Perhaps Alan can bail me out here.   Dennis    
(back) Subject: Washington DC Recital Jan. 31 From: DudelK@aol.com Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:36:44 EST   This Sunday, Jan. 31 at 4 pm the DC AGO chapter is presenting Todd & Anne Wilson at the Church of the Epiphany, 1317 G St. NW (Metro Center). The program includes organ duets, a piano duet, and an organ-piano duet. The finale is the duo-organ arrangement of the Carmen Suite -- which many heard them perform at St. Patrick's Cathedral at the AGO convention. Admission is $10 general; 7.50 seniors and students. It should be a fun program -- the organ is a 4m Skinner and the piano a Steinway concert grand in a good room for acoustics.   If you need additional information please e-mail privately. David Krohne DudelK@aol.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Music Directors From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinel@theatreorgans.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:21:30 -0000     >Dear Chris: > >Despite what many people may tell you, this is a great profession. You are >entering at a time that is ripe for creativity and new opportunities. Sadly, >many of the practitioners of this profession are complaining and >narrow-minded people for whom the concept of creativity is the work of the >devil. > >As a music director please remember that you must be an artist first, a >musician second, and a music director third. As an artist, you must make a >statement of the vision that God has given you. > >I use the analogy of a painter that stands before a blank canvas. Before >that painter can paint the first color or make the first brush stroke, they >must see the finished work on that canvas as if the finished painting was >already there. All the artist is doing is bringing to realization what they >already see. > >A church music position is the same way. Don't just go through the mechanics >of Sunday morning. It will be a struggle at times and people may not always >be as cooperative as you may want. But, stay true to your vision and always >maintain a positive enthusiasm at all times. If you do, people will come >around. I have seen some pretty remarkable things done if you follow this >simple philosophy. > >And most of all, stay clear of the negativism many of the professions >practitioners spews forth. Most of them were not very good to begin with and >their negativity is just a cover for their lack of abilities and creativity. > >Good Luck!!!!! > >Dr. Charles Brown     That sounds like sound advice as I would like to be a full time church musician (I am still at school at the moment), I am also in a church choir and so see all of the uncooperation and so forth at first hand, and if our director lost his vision we certainly would be in deep trouble!!   Richard Pinel.    
(back) Subject: Re:Cheryl's Articulate Comments... From: "Mark Hopper" <mahopper@bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:07:18 -0600   Cheryl -   As my professor of sacred music (Paul Richardson) says...   "A question of typical CCM versus quality, theologically sound music is like comparing Twinkies to Spinach."   Somehow, food analogies always work!   -Mark -----Original Message----- From: Cheryl C Hart <info@copemanhart.co.uk> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 4:41 AM Subject: Re: I need support...     >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >27th January 1999 > > >When I think of 'contemporary' worship I think of 'happy clappy': this is a >classic example of 'dumbing down' (songs being constant repetitions of a >simplistic, trite single line, and the Liturgy reduced to the lowest common >denominator of language). > >Happy clappy/evangelical tends to focus on the emotions. Emotion is not a >good foundation for faith - it can be unreliable and shallow. A deep, >abiding faith has to be established on something more than feelings - surely >faith is believing, not 'feeling'. True faith enobles, and refines, and >one thirsts for knowledge. It seems to me that 'contemporary' is almost >the complete antithesis. > >Yes, emotion is important: a spine-tingling choir and/or organ/organist, a >sermon which is food for thought, the peace of the place, worshipping with >like-minded people . . . but it is an enriching and enobling experience, not >a fleeting 'high'. I am not decrying the evangelical/happy clappy, etc, >because it obviously meets a need, but it appears to me to have no 'meat' - >and did not Christ say, "Feed my sheep"? By all means START those who are >new to faith on a simple and easy limited diet, if that is what they want, >but those who want or need more should not be forced to endure the same >meagre diet. It would be soul-destroying for me, as an organist and a >Christian, if I had to endure such a diet, with no opportunity to 'grow' the >music or a separate service - and I would leave. No one in a situation >where there is no alternative service should feel guilty for leaving - think >of your own soul, and leave the clergy and the congregation to their anorexia. > > >Cheryl - flameproofed in England ;-) > > >http://www.copemanhart.co.uk > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: To the person that quoted the rules... From: "Mark Hopper" <mahopper@bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:32:19 -0600   I had forgotten! The admin. wanted..."Lots of humor please!"   Maybe this will break up this chain of seriousness I began:   How many organists does it take to change a light bulb?       It depends---does it have pistons?     Smile, everyone! We all serve the same benevolent and loving God!   Mark mahopper@bigfoot.com      
(back) Subject: Re: RE: Final word on liturgy/music From: Afreed0904@aol.com Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:45:02 EST     In a message dated 1/28/99 1:13:37 PM, dgoward@uswest.net writes:   >the People themselves seem to be a final word. > > > >I get the impression that if the congregation decided as a body to do the liturgy in Pig Latin to the tune of Spice Girl songs (God Forbid!) then that's just what they would do.   Dennis, you may be right. I've never known it to come down to that (even with milder examples), but I can't call you wrong!   Alan          
(back) Subject: Re: Final word on liturgy/music From: Jim H <BALD1@prodigy.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:59:36 -0600   Afreed0904@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 1/28/99 1:13:37 PM, dgoward@uswest.net writes: > > >the People themselves seem to be a final word. > > > > > > > >I get the impression that if the congregation decided as a body to do the > liturgy in Pig Latin to the tune of Spice Girl songs (Go > Alan > > let's see, e-tey eum-dey audumus-dey, has kind of a ring don't it.   Jim H    
(back) Subject: Re: I need help From: Jim H <BALD1@prodigy.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:04:16 -0600   Travis Evans wrote: > > I have to agree with the attendance between traditional servcies and > 'Contemporary' servcie.   it seems to me Travis that LCMS congregations are going to the far contemporary side, or reverting back to the traditional. My congregation still uses "The Lutheran Hyman" which is referred to as the "blue" hymnal, its original color, and with an ocasional look into "Luheran Worship" which is still referred to as the new hymnal, and it is what 25 years old.   Oh well, we ain't even considering the newest revision which should be out soon.   Jim H    
(back) Subject: 10 Commandments for organbuilders From: J S VANDERSTAD <dcob@nac.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 20:15:20 -0500   Dear List-- Some time ago, I think I saw something somewhere called the 10 commandments for organ builders. Would anyone of you know if there really is such a thing? Perhaps you would be willing to share it with the list.  
(back) Subject: Re: I need help From: Travis Evans <tle6399@seward.cune.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:19:19 -0500 (CDT)   Lutheran Worship is only 17 years old, and Lutheran Book of Worship is 21, but they are still called the New hymnals. The Hymnal Supplement 98, is really nice, it is a lot simpler to follow that LW, we use it here at school, and St. John across the street from campus just purchased it. The goal with the new hymnal is to be more user friendly. The format will be like LW, but with some features of TLH. I went to one of the workshops for the hymnal supplement, I don't think people should be so closed minded to it, there are many hymns that were taken out of LW, that were in TLH, that are going to be put back in.   Travis Evans   tle6399@seward.cune.edu tlevans@shawneelink.com   "When I hear music, I fear no evil"   On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Jim H wrote:   > Travis Evans wrote: > > > > I have to agree with the attendance between traditional servcies and > > 'Contemporary' servcie. > > it seems to me Travis that LCMS congregations are going to the far > contemporary side, or reverting back to the traditional. My > congregation still uses "The Lutheran Hyman" which is referred to as the > "blue" hymnal, its original color, and with an ocasional look into > "Luheran Worship" which is still referred to as the new hymnal, and it > is what 25 years old. > > Oh well, we ain't even considering the newest revision which should be > out soon. > > Jim H > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: MP Moller Opus 4920, inst. 1927 From: J S VANDERSTAD <dcob@nac.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 20:20:58 -0500   I have recently received word of an M. P. Moller organ installed 1927. Its opus number is 4920. It was installed in a home in NJ, and is still playing today. I was wondering if any of you could provide more details, I hope to take a look at it saturday, so I'll let you know what I find out. Someone told me it was installed in the attic of the house. More details if available would be appreciated.  
(back) Subject: Re: MP Moller Opus 4920, inst. 1927 From: Antoni Scott <ascott@epix.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:56:16 -0500   To the List:   I think you are referring to a Moller in Dr. Lee's attic. He lives in Belvidere, New Jersey. I saw the organ some years ago. It is a nice drawknob console and did not have many ranks, but was a nice residence organ.   I live about two miles from this house if it is the one we are talking about.       Antoni Scott   J S VANDERSTAD wrote: > > I have recently received word of an M. P. Moller organ installed 1927. > Its opus number is 4920. It was installed in a home in NJ, and is still > playing today. I was wondering if any of you could provide more details, > I hope to take a look at it saturday, so I'll let you know what I find > out. Someone told me it was installed in the attic of the house. More > details if available would be appreciated. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Reference Book From: "Rick \"OrganPlayer\" Locher" <rick.locher@gte.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:04:00 -0600   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=_NextPart_000_00F7_01BE4B01.BA4531E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Can anyone recommend a Dictionary of Pipe Organ Stops that would include = a PRONUNCIATION Guide as well as definitions? Thanks in advance, Rick rick.locher@gte.net   ------=_NextPart_000_00F7_01BE4B01.BA4531E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD>   <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3612.1700"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Can anyone recommend a Dictionary of = Pipe Organ=20 Stops that would include a PRONUNCIATION Guide as well as=20 definitions?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thanks in advance,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Rick</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 = size=3D2>rick.locher@gte.net</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=_NextPart_000_00F7_01BE4B01.BA4531E0--    
(back) Subject: Re: MP Moller Opus 4920, inst. 1927 From: Jim Filsinger <kimballl@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:51:04 -0800 (PST)   If this is a player organ, would you please let me know. I have been doing research on Moller. Thanks Jim Filsinger         ---J S VANDERSTAD <dcob@nac.net> wrote: > > I have recently received word of an M. P. Moller organ installed 1927. > Its opus number is 4920. It was installed in a home in NJ, and is still > playing today. I was wondering if any of you could provide more details, > I hope to take a look at it saturday, so I'll let you know what I find > out. Someone told me it was installed in the attic of the house. More > details if available would be appreciated. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >   _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com    
(back) Subject: Fw: Reference Book From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:15:17 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BE4B0B.AFB8CD40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Rick... The only dictionary I'm familiar with is by Stevens Irwin. = =20 Write me, Rick, as we have mutual friends. Rick Veague dutchorgan@svs.net=20     -----Original Message----- From: Rick "OrganPlayer" Locher <rick.locher@gte.net> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 10:00 PM Subject: Reference Book     Can anyone recommend a Dictionary of Pipe Organ Stops that would include = a PRONUNCIATION Guide as well as definitions? Thanks in advance, Rick rick.locher@gte.net   ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BE4B0B.AFB8CD40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD>   <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 = HTML//EN"> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.71.1712.3"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3DCourier size=3D2>Rick...&nbsp;&nbsp; = The only=20 dictionary I'm familiar with is by Stevens=20 Irwin.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3DCourier size=3D2>Write me, Rick, as we = have mutual=20 friends. Rick Veague</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3DCourier size=3D2><A=20 href=3D"mailto:dutchorgan@svs.net">dutchorgan@svs.net</A> </FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original = Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20 </B>Rick &quot;OrganPlayer&quot; Locher &lt;<A=20 href=3D"mailto:rick.locher@gte.net">rick.locher@gte.net</A>&gt;<BR><B>To:= </B><A=20 href=3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> &lt;<A=20 href=3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A>&gt;<BR><B= >Date:=20 </B>Thursday, January 28, 1999 10:00 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Reference=20 Book<BR><BR></DIV></FONT> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Can anyone recommend a Dictionary of = Pipe Organ=20 Stops that would include a PRONUNCIATION Guide as well as=20 definitions?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thanks in advance,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Rick</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 = size=3D2>rick.locher@gte.net</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BE4B0B.AFB8CD40--      
(back) Subject: Schopp's in Ohio From: Kevin Cartwright <kevin1@alaweb.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:51:14 -0600   I REALLY need to contact someone at Schopp's (sp?) in Ohio. I have a question about a device that is currently for sale. Can anyone help me?   Thanks.   Kevin C. kevin1@alaweb.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Reference Book From: RMc7832619@aol.com Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:31:44 EST   << Can anyone recommend a Dictionary of Pipe Organ Stops that would include a PRONUNCIATION Guide as well as definitions >> Stevens Irwin's Dictionary of Pipe Organ Stops does an excellant job. For theatre organ stops, Walt Stroney also published an excellent description of the various stops. Neither of these contain a pronunciation guide.   However, Webster's Third New International Dictionary of the English Language Unabridged (1961) does contain pronunciation guides for most of the organ stops; however, it does not mention those with German or French names.  
(back) Subject: Re: I need help From: Afreed0904@aol.com Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 23:08:47 EST     In a message dated 1.28.99 8:13:56 PM, BALD1@prodigy.net writes:   <<the newest revision which should be out soon.>>   HEY! When? Scoop me the word, man!   Alan  
(back) Subject: The TRULY new LCMS Hymnal From: Pepehomer@aol.com Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 00:00:21 EST   I think the synod has been working on the new version of the Lutheran hymnal for about 2 years now, and if all is still going well, I think the release was supposed to be the spring of this year - but there could always be snags, etc. I, for one, can't wait, since my church is using the "green" hymnal - the middle child of hymnals, mainly because you're hard pressed to find too many organists and music directors that actually like this hymnal. When the new one comes out, I will be the forst one to head up a drive to bring them in!   Justin Karch Organist, Holy Trinity LCMS Rome, GA  
(back) Subject: Re: The TRULY new LCMS Hymnal From: Travis Evans <tle6399@seward.cune.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 23:09:02 -0500 (CDT)   My academic advisor has been on the Commission On Worship, and is now working with introduction of the supplement. He said that it was at least 6 more years until it will be ready for release.   Travis Evans   tle6399@seward.cune.edu   "When I hear music, I fear no evil"   On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 Pepehomer@aol.com wrote:   > I think the synod has been working on the new version of the Lutheran hymnal > for about 2 years now, and if all is still going well, I think the release was > supposed to be the spring of this year - but there could always be snags, etc. > > Justin Karch > Organist, Holy Trinity LCMS > Rome, GA >    
(back) Subject: Re: The TRULY new LCMS Hymnal From: Pepehomer@aol.com Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 00:11:51 EST   << My academic advisor has been on the Commission On Worship, and is now working with introduction of the supplement. He said that it was at least 6 more years until it will be ready for release.>>   Well, I guess I was WAY off! I must have been thinking of something else!   Justin Karch Organist, Holy Trinity LCMS Rome, GA  
(back) Subject: Re: The TRULY new LCMS Hymnal From: WRansomeJr@aol.com Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 03:38:52 EST   In a message dated 1/28/99 9:02:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, Pepehomer@aol.com writes:   > I think the synod has been working on the new version of the Lutheran hymnal > for about 2 years now, and if all is still going well, I think the release > was > supposed to be the spring of this year - but there could always be snags, > etc. >   I served a small LCMS church for about 4 years. There was the "old" hymnal in the pews, with many rather bland tunes and harmonization's, and there was a "Lutheran Worship" as well, and my opinion about that was that someone tries a little too hard to "spice" things up - many of the normal tunes sounded like alternate accompaniments! I always assumed that this WAS the new hymnal. I am Episcopal and maybe I am just too "green!"