PipeChat Digest #1003 - Monday, July 26, 1999
 
Re: National Shrine Full Time Music Position Announcement
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: Standards for Professional performers
  by "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net>
Re: wedding from hell
  by <Icorgan@aol.com>
Re: wedding from hell
  by <Icorgan@aol.com>
Re: Wedding rehearsal from HELL
  by <CHERCAPA@aol.com>
Re: Wedding rehearsal from HELL
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Philosophy PLUS subbing?
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: wedding from hell
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Re: Windchest types
  by <Prestant16@aol.com>
Re: Pipe washing / cleaning - X post
  by <JDeCaria@aol.com>
Re: Standards for Professional performers (A response)
  by "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net>
Re: Wedding from HELL
  by "Brent Johnson" <bmjohns@fgi.net>
Re: wedding from hell
  by "Ruth" <theraven@sympatico.ca>
Re: Wedding from HELL
  by "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net>
Re: wedding from hell
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
My post continued
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
To pick your brain
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Standards for Professional performers (A response)
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Wedding from HELL
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: To pick your brain
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: My post continued
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
Re: My post continued
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Wedding from HELL
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: wedding from hell
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Wedding from HELL
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Wedding from HELL
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Wedding from HELL
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: National Shrine Full Time Music Position Announcement From: ScottFop@aol.com Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 05:16:11 EDT   In a message dated 7/24/99 11:20:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Innkawgneeto@webtv.net writes:   << Cool Scott. Best wishes on your search.   Thanks! We'll need those well wishes to find just the right person.       Would the person be able to enter into a Dueling Organists competition with you for a concert?   SURE! =3Do)     It sounds like a delightful position.   It certainly can be- but is a very demanding and intense position as well just by the mere fact of the size of the church and all that's involved.  
(back) Subject: Re: Standards for Professional performers From: "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 07:08:17 -0400   At 11:00 PM 7/24/99 EDT, Dudel's daddy wrote: I >suggested that he relay this information to the artiste's concert management,<   I agree!   Many times concert management will phone me and ask (casually) how the concert went, or about such and such, how big the crowd was, etc., etc., etc., and I always tell the truth (sometimes the brutal truth, if the performance was not what we expected or if the artists spoke toooooo long, etc.). But sometimes management will not call and I always send a quick note or make a quick phone call to give a report. Management likes (and needs) to hear about specifics concerning a concert.   As part of my administrative responsibilities with the Concert Series, I book all the "acts" for the Series. I negotiate all the contracts, work with the booking agents (or management if different from the bookers), and sometimes work with the artists in advance of the actual concert.   I ask for right of approval of repertoire for the concert. Many times (actually most) repertoire is not a problem, but occasionally, an artist will want to do a program which would kill off the audience in the first = 20 minutes and we will have a mass exodus at intermission. But since the artists leaves and I have to field the phone calls the next day, it is safer to insist on repertoire approval. Since we are a series and sell subscriptions to the entire series as well as individual tickets, it is critical that we have "audience friendly" concerts. "Audience friendly" doesn't mean that the artist only plays fluff from the stage, but that there are enough pieces on the program to make sure that the audience will return to hear them again.   This is what I recently suggested to an artist (through his/her management): The artist insisted in closing with three movements from a Messiaen suite. I seriously questioned the wisdom of that type of programming in a South Florida concert (during high season). Management = and artist insisted and said the Messiaen would be played. Period. End of paragraph. So . . . we moved the Messiaen to the opening of the second = half of the program. I also insisted on verbal program notes to help "explain" the Messiaen. I then suggested the artist end the program with a "sugar stick" like the Finale from Vierne I or the Toccata from Widor V, etc., etc., etc. The artist did just that and it worked beautifully and the = crowd gave him/her a standing ovation. An encore was called for and it was another short "sugar stick." The audience left the concert happy. I got "happy" notes and phone calls, and the artist found a new audience in = South Florida.   It's a matter of communication. Your job as a presenter communicating with the artist (or management) in advance of the concert and then the responsibility of the artist to communicate great music to the audience. And that means after the concert is over you will have only great communication with those who purchase tickets for $15 or $20 or $25 = tickets!   Have a great Sunday.   Yours,   Darryl by the Sea Fort Lauderdale, FL      
(back) Subject: Re: wedding from hell From: Icorgan@aol.com Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 09:16:45 EDT   In a message dated 7/24/99 11:39:51 PM Central Daylight Time, DRAWKNOB@aol.com writes:   << I find it hard to believe that people are so rude and discourteous, but then again look at = our society... >> I guess we've all had similar experiences. Strange how inconsiderate = people can be. I remember one minister who would get up and start talking if he thought the offertory was too long. People at my present church used to = come up and hold full voice conversations right next to the console, and = sometimes even talk to me, until I threw a fit a few times. Of course then the = minister told me that I had no right to do that and that if I was unhappy perhaps I =   should consider employment elsewhere. I'm still there...he's not. Maynard  
(back) Subject: Re: wedding from hell From: Icorgan@aol.com Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 09:16:52 EDT   In a message dated 7/24/99 11:23:19 PM Central Daylight Time, jakorns@worldnet.att.net writes:   << Unfortunately it took two run throughs with the violins to discover that the orchestra score they handed me was 2 measures longer than the music they were playing from. >> Do you suppose anyone in the congregation would have noticed? At least = they weren't singers...they wouldn't have noticed either. Sorry vocal people :) Maynard  
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding rehearsal from HELL From: CHERCAPA@aol.com Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 12:25:07 EDT   Dear John, I suppose you found it difficult not breaking into some bump = and grind music. LOL. Paul  
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding rehearsal from HELL From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:29:29 EDT   In a message dated 7/25/99 12:22:06 PM Central Daylight Time, CHERCAPA@aol.com writes:   << Dear John, I suppose you found it difficult not breaking into some bump =   and grind music. LOL. Paul >>   I didn't think of that either... I was soooo mad I wasn't thinking = straight. Also, I could have and should have played the little home run fanfare that =   you hear at the ballparks... :-)   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Philosophy PLUS subbing? From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:46:26 EDT   Dear Richard,   Are you familiar with Mano Hardies and Central UMC in Lansing, MI... your tale sounds exactly like what happened to him, after 22 years on staff as Org/ChM there.   Regarding your questions, contact the chapter of the American Guild of Organists in your area and request a compensation guide. If you're not a member of the Guild you should join and ask to be placed on the substitute =   list.   Good luck!   John A. Gambill, Jr. Organist/Choirmaster Oak Cliff Lutheran Church Dallas, TX  
(back) Subject: Re: wedding from hell From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 18:24:16 -0400 (EDT)   >Reverend came over to the organ and asked > me to "hold up for a moment" to make his > announcement... >This is a rather disturbing trend that I've seen > developing. ....And it becoming more and more common. Often when I play funerals, the funeral director will begin yelling directions to the luncheon over the organ music as the family is walking out. When the casket is being brought in, I can often hear the funeral director saying, "no, farther over this way; you move over here; ok everybody gather 'round the casket, come on.. come on.." Many times I have been with a couple of measures of the conclusion of a prelude, and still before starting time, and the priest or the lector will yell from the West Door, "PLEASE STAND." And they start down the aisle, as I dive for the stand to announce the entrance hymn. I've even had a priest begin the Preface BEFORE the presentation hymn is over, during a stanza even!   >I feel that the best way to counteract > behaviour like this is to start playing the organ > when sermons go too long... I think they'd get > the point then. Mr. Drawknob has inadvertently stumbled upon a tradition in some churches. I substituted in an AME church while working on their organ, and it was their custom for the organist to begin playing quietly at about 10 minutes before the end of the service "under" the sermon. The organist then improvises as the preacher concludes his sermon. It was quite fun, actually.   Bruce & the Baskerbeagles ~~+~~+~~ rohrschok8@webtv.net ~~+~~+~~   Cowardly dogs bark loudest. -- John Webster    
(back) Subject: Re: Windchest types From: Prestant16@aol.com Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 19:28:00 EDT     > That sound is NOTHING!, except > the sound only YOU hear from only from the Console of the drawknobs > moving into position. Or is there something I'm missing in the new > latest high-tech, space technology that is available from only one > source? > > Of course, I prefer e-p for the Higher pressure, and large wind-supply > pipes (pedals and en-chamade's). E-P for manual stops and notes clunk > and chunk, pop, hiss, and are need of releathering avery 30 or so = years.     Alot of the newer drawknobs today are fairly quiet. Of course, you can go =   with the somewhat tacky (and electronic) look of lighted drawknobs. The solenoids used on the console at Immac. Boston are pretty quiet, the do require 24 volts though. Another problem with slider chests can be noisy sliders, but usually, when adjusted correctly, you can't really pick them out. I agree with the e-p chest for higher pressures and pedal divisions. With the problems that you can encounter with a high pressure division, = e-p is preferable over slider chests, unless you are using an e-p pulldown for =   the pallets.   It's funny you should mention the high tech in organs. After so many years of developing electro-magnets for pulling pallets, they are still = not easy to work with. The ONLY pulldown magnet I have heard of that can do = any good in large divisions are Syncordia, and they will not sell them without =   their new system which replicated the movement of the key to the magnet. = And their prices (when they sold the magnets without the system) were about $70.00 each note! So how about this happy medium....   Slider chests with electro-pnumatic pulldowns?   -William C.  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe washing / cleaning - X post From: JDeCaria@aol.com Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 19:36:01 EDT   Many thanks to all who responed both publicly and privately with some = really great tips. I think the most original would have to be using a "pruned" = mop to clean out the insides of larger metal pipes.   One question still remains though... everyone assumed I'd be cleaning = metal pipes... what about wooden pipes?   Up to my eyeballs in pipe grime, Joseph DeCaria, Toronto  
(back) Subject: Re: Standards for Professional performers (A response) From: "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:31:31 -0400   Hi, Y'all!   Arthur Lamirande just wrote me privately and gave me a tongue-lashing extraordinare concerning my right of approval of the programming for concerts. Please know I'm very flexible and work with the = artist/management concerning programs to great lengths, but the bottom line is I know my audiences and I know what will "sell" and not sell.   And trust me, dear friends, as much as I personally love French Baroque music (aka French Classic) and love the chorale variations of J. S. Bach, they just don't work on concert programs to a general audience in South Florida.   I have written privately to Mr. Lamirande, but I think two items in his nasty note to me do need a public explanation for fear some of you may think the same thing.   He said: <<no pianist or violinist would subject himself to your approval.. why should an organist>>. . . .<<you be better advised to investigate = where the organist has played previously, and what sort of reviews he has received.>>   I say: Not so . . . I do it all the time to many artists of national reputation. Artists who are household names, not narrow minded egomaniacs. Most of the "big names" know that their "bread and butter" and their continued success is due to the audiences who continue to buy tickets. I also book a lot of non-classical artists, and I very carefully review lyrics of their songs, as well. Even though I may not know their songs, per se, I can read and decide if the lyric is acceptable for a concert held in a local church.   Why should I trust a reviewer? I trust other presenters who present concerts in similar settings and trust other organists and musicians who understand our audiences. I trust my instincts.   My total operating budget approaches several hundred thousand dollars this year. The margin of success and failure is only a few dollars.   This may not explain anything at all, but I didn't want y'all to know I'm not a dogmatic nut who ignores the artist and the artist's instincts in programming. I'm just nuts . . . after all, I'm an organist!   Have a fun week.   Yours,   Darryl by the Sea            
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding from HELL From: "Brent Johnson" <bmjohns@fgi.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:08:54 -0500   All of this talk of hellish weddings is interesting, but a bit scary as I = am preparing a trip to Texas (near Dallas, in fact) to play for a friend's wedding. The original plan was my plane ticket would be paid for, and I would play for free, since this is a childhood friend, but my mother has paid for the ticket as a gift to the bride, so that end has me not = worried. The music is a carbon copy of most weddings (Clarke, Mendelssohn, = Malotte), so that's not a concern. As long as I can avoid the hugging processional = or recessional, I should be okay.   Two questions have come up, I'm curious to see what others think. While planning the music on the phone, the bride to be asked if there = should be different music for the entrance of the grandparents than for the parents. I said no. (Due to divorce and remarriage, there is a larger number of parents and grandparents than usual in this marriage.) Of = course, her mother, sitting nearby unbeknownst to me, said there should be. There will be only one number, but I'm sure there will be more discussion. Do = any of you ever play the 2 minutes of one song and the 1 minute of another for both parents and grandparents?   Secondly, I used to do just the service music through the recessional, and = I was out of there. I think the brides never think about what happens when they leave the room. I have never been at a wedding where the pastor = didn't want to address and dismiss the congregation after the couple was gone. = So, as a result, I never plan a postlude. I might this weekend cause I like = the girl. Is a postlude part of the deal for many of you, or is it a request only thing? Brent Johnson The Organ Web Ring http://www.organwebring.com brent@organwebring.com   ----- Original Message ----- From: N Brown <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 1999 10:37 PM Subject: Re: Wedding from HELL     > The old hugging processional. John you're a trooper. > > Almost as bad as the bride that wanted me to play an endless postlude so > SHE could signal each row to leave. Ugh. Then her sister wanted to do > the same thing the next year. > I said NO. you know what, I was supported. > > I take it Decorum was not the rule in this wedding. Oh well, I suppose > they are no less married. > > --Neil > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >      
(back) Subject: Re: wedding from hell From: Ruth <theraven@sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 22:36:23 -0400   I find it hard to >believe that people are so rude and discourteous, but then again look at = our >society... > Well, considering that I am only a reader of the posts, and not at all responsible for what happened to you, I think it pretty rude of you to use the words you do. Seems to me that you are a big part of "this rude society". I am sure you could have gotten your point across with better English instead of swearing. Young people read this list, and it is a shame that your words are on it. Ruth,    
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding from HELL From: "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 23:54:16 -0400   At 09:08 PM 7/25/99 -0500, Brent wrote: >As long as I can avoid the hugging processional or >recessional, I should be okay.   I don't have a clue what a hugging processional is . . . but it does sound like it could be fun . . . or is it like "passing the peace" where one = gets hugged to death and cheek-pinched by the ol' blue-haired ladies?   > >Do any >of you ever play the 2 minutes of one song and the 1 minute of another = for >both parents and grandparents?   I'm not sure what you mean, but we often use "Jesu, Joy, etc." for the "parents" music. This is sometimes sung, but usually just me. I sometimes am requested to play the Pachelbel Canon for parents music, too.   >I have never been at a wedding where the pastor didn't >want to address and dismiss the congregation after the couple was gone.   We don't make announcements after the recessional music. Before the benediction, there is a very brief announcement about exiting the room, going to the reception, tipping the organist, etc.   >Is a postlude part of the deal for many of you, or is it a request >only thing?   I always play a postlude after the recessional. Often it is one of the processional trumpet tunes the bridal couple does NOT choose from our consultation (like the Mouret, Campra, etc.). Sometimes if my Sunday postlude is new, then I play it for the wedding postlude. This week I learned the David German trumpet tune for the Sunday evening postlude, so played it at both weddings yesterday for the postlude.   I enjoy playing weddings. I also go to wedding rehearsals. I also charge for those weddings AND those rehearsals! :)   Have a great week.   Yours,   Darryl by the Sea Fort Lauderdale, FL    
(back) Subject: Re: wedding from hell From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 00:14:30 -0400 (EDT)   Speaking of relative weddings, I had the privilege of playing for my baby sister's wedding 2 years ago (she's 22 now, so hardly a babe, but that's how she'll always be to me). Of course at their church there is no organ, but a very nice grand piano, which I played. No problem. Actually the wedding was very beautiful and moving. For her processional, I played Bach's "Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring." The wedding coordinator/hostess later asked me the title, because she had absolutely NO idea what it was. I didn't know whether to be flabbergasted or not. Of course, being the church music professional that I am, I politely answered her question. This is an entire congregation that is beginning to have NO idea what good music is. But, there is more ... for another post. --Neil    
(back) Subject: My post continued From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 00:27:41 -0400 (EDT)   I was talking with my father the other day and he asked me a wonderful question. This post is for 2 reasons: to share our conversation and to ask your help. First, my father belongs to a large SB church in Florida that has up til this point been almost exclusively CCM in style (wasn't always, but since new building). Anyway, they have begun to talk about a new sanctuary, a 3500 seater. My dad has decided that it makes no sense to build such a building and not include a pipe organ (do you know how this thrills my soul?). He's got a major task ahead of him but he just may pull it off. He asked me how much I thought a sufficient pipe organ for that space would cost. I told him that our 24 rank organ cost $250,000 and that I thought they would need at least 75 ranks or so, so about $1,000,000 for a modest specification. Am I anywhere near the ballpark? The sanctuary would more than likely be the typical pie-shape (if this matters). I told him to approach his pastor and to get a committee going, as it's better to incorporate the organ in the original architectural plans. I even offered to be the consultant. We'll see where that goes. Any input from you all will be appreciated. --Neil, Barnegat, USA    
(back) Subject: To pick your brain From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 00:36:17 -0400 (EDT)   Dear Dr. Miller, sir 8-): Your post about our concert series was timely. I would like to pick your brain sometime about your concert bookings/negotiations. We have a concert series, now starting its 5th season, and I always feel like I'm paying too much. How do you negotiate the fees? I've also applied for a position in a large UM church with a concert series there, too, so any info you can pass along will be very helpful. HOw do you like working with Mssr. Wilson? --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Standards for Professional performers (A response) From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 01:09:02 -0400 (EDT)   Darryl, you have a right and responsibility to review the repertory. And, since your concert series is so well known and respected, I'm sure the artists are more than happy to oblige. Several of my parishioners attend your concerts while they are down there sunning themselves and their reports are always complimentary. One artist we had did not really do what I had requested, and subsequently did not receive a very warm welcome. I asked for lighter fare (considering our audience). We got a Bach passacaglia complete with French heavy weights. Oh, and atonal hymn arrangements. Whilst it was gratifying to hear the folks say, "Neil, we like your playing better," I was not overly happy with his choice of music. And his registrations left a lot to be desired. So, I tend to side with Darryl on this one. There's simply too much at stake. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding from HELL From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 01:12:39 -0400 (EDT)   Wedding postludes: I tell brides I don't do them, because it's difficult for the congregants to talk over my playing (and they've come many miles and need to catch up, yada yada yada). But, if I really, really like the couple, they've been on time, weren't problems, and I feel like it, I sometimes play my improv on Old Hundredth. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: To pick your brain From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 01:20:48 -0400 (EDT)   Folks, I intended this to be a private post, but alas, it's spread to the far reaches of the universe. Please disregard this and I shall be forever grateful. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: My post continued From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 22:41:24 -0700     > Anyway, they have begun to talk about a new sanctuary, a 3500 seater. > My dad has decided that it makes no sense to build such a building and > not include a pipe organ (do you know how this thrills my soul?). > He's got a major task ahead of him but he just may pull it off. > He asked me how much I thought a sufficient pipe organ for that space > would cost. I told him that our 24 rank organ cost $250,000 and that I > thought they would need at least 75 ranks or so, so about $1,000,000 for > a modest specification. Am I anywhere near the ballpark?   My concern would be that to fill an auditorium that size a pipe organ = would need to either be of very large scale or be amplified (as is being done = with the new Mormon Tabernacle in Utah). The really large scale stops an organ like this would require are more expensive than the average and I would think it would need somewhere around 100+ ranks and cost closer to $1,500,000 to $2,000,000. Best bet would be to contact Jack Bethards at Shoenstein in San Francisco, as he is building the new organ for the = Mormon church in Utah, and he can fill you in on the requirements of an organ for that size space. > Jason  
(back) Subject: Re: My post continued From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 01:50:46 -0400 (EDT)   Thanks, Jason. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding from HELL From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 02:57:23 EDT   In a message dated 7/25/99 9:30:04 PM Central Daylight Time, = bmjohns@fgi.net writes:   << Is a postlude part of the deal for many of you, or is it a request only thing? >>   A postlude is a must... until every last one (of the rotten lot) is out of =   the church.   John  
(back) Subject: Re: wedding from hell From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 02:59:16 EDT   In a message dated 7/25/99 10:30:32 PM Central Daylight Time, theraven@sympatico.ca writes:   << Well, considering that I am only a reader of the posts, and not at all responsible for what happened to you, I think it pretty rude of you to = use the words you do. Seems to me that you are a big part of "this rude society". I am sure you could have gotten your point across with better English instead of swearing. Young people read this list, and it is a shame that your words are on it. Ruth, >>   Well to each their own! I have no problems with it and I'm sure God could =   care less..   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding from HELL From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 03:03:18 EDT   In a message dated 7/26/99 12:52:58 AM Central Daylight Time, Innkawgneeto@webtv.net writes:   << Wedding postludes: I tell brides I don't do them, because it's difficult for the congregants to talk over my playing (and they've come many miles and need to catch up, yada yada yada). >>   Ahh, but that's where we excercise our power and the quality of our = organs... let them chat at the blasted reception -- which I refuse to go to.   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding from HELL From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 03:09:13 -0400 (EDT)   Me either, John, But I refuse to play postludes until every last guest is out of the church. And, I don't do preludes until the bride is on premises. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding from HELL From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 03:11:05 EDT   In a message dated 7/25/99 9:30:04 PM Central Daylight Time, = bmjohns@fgi.net writes:   << All of this talk of hellish weddings is interesting, but a bit scary as = I am preparing a trip to Texas (near Dallas, in fact) to play for a friend's = >>   Don't do it... run as if your life depended on it... I made it VERY clear today, that if they wished to keep me as Organist/Choirmaster that I would = no longer do weddings at all for them... However, I retain the right of = first refusal -- which means that I get paid none-the-less, whether or not I = play for the blasted things.   I can be a real stinker (for lack of a better word which might offend old women and children) when I wish to be... and do you know what? I'm proud = of it !!!   John