PipeChat Digest #1008 - Thursday, July 29, 1999
 
An organist fired because of MIDI
  by <Posthorn8@aol.com>
Re: Pipe washing / cleaning - X post
  by "Rick \"OrganPlayer\" Locher" <rick.locher@gte.net>
X-post: Nigel Ogden Recital in Wales
  by "Ian J Rees" <info@copemanhart.co.uk>
Re: Pipe washing / cleaning - X post
  by <ORGANUT@aol.com>
Whew! Was "Standards" and more ...???
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Re: Pipe washing / cleaning - X post
  by "Ray Sheppard" <witsend@ovis.net>
Re: Whew! Was "Standards" and more
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: An organist fired because of MIDI
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
ORWELL VT organ in danger
  by "Karl E. Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersv.edu>
Re: ORWELL VT organ in danger
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Conn Serenade with pipes for sale. (cross-posted)
  by "Ken Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com>
Conn Serenade Correction (cross-posted)
  by "Ken Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com>
Re: An organist fired because of MIDI
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Whew! Was "Standards" and more ...???
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Unwanted private e-mails
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: An organist fired because of MIDI
  by "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com>
input please
  by "ray ahrens" <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com>
Re: input please
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
 


(back) Subject: An organist fired because of MIDI From: Posthorn8@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:06:26 EDT   Hi list,   I sold a Rodgers organ a few years back to a church that wouldn't even = look at an Allen. When I asked why the organist said that she was the organist =   for a local nursing home. The home had an old Baldwin 11 and replaced it = with a small Allen with a Smart Recorder. The powers that be had her record = about 50 hymns and then promptly let her go saying they didn't need her services =   anymore now that they had the recordings. She was so afraid that the = church would do the same thing to her.   Well, they did replace their old Wurlitzer reed organ with a Rodgers 690 = and PR300 sequencer. She is still organist there.   Tim  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe washing / cleaning - X post From: "Rick \"OrganPlayer\" Locher" <rick.locher@gte.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:05:07 -0500   Dear list, Peterson Electronics sells a product called "Chemiclean". It works = wonders on metal pipes with ease. For wooden pipes, I suggest mild soap and water with a clear water rinse and immediate drying by placing the pipes in = front of a fan (the rotating kind!). Hope this helps, Rick   It's just like what the guy said who kissed the cow: "It's all a matter of taste!" ----- Original Message ----- From: <JDeCaria@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org>; <piporg-l@listserv.albany.edu> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 1999 6:36 PM Subject: Re: Pipe washing / cleaning - X post     > Many thanks to all who responed both publicly and privately with some really > great tips. I think the most original would have to be using a "pruned" mop > to clean out the insides of larger metal pipes. > > One question still remains though... everyone assumed I'd be cleaning metal > pipes... what about wooden pipes? > > Up to my eyeballs in pipe grime, > Joseph DeCaria, > Toronto > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: X-post: Nigel Ogden Recital in Wales From: Ian J Rees <info@copemanhart.co.uk> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:07:50 +0100   Greetings fellow subscribers. Those in the UK might wish to know that Nigel Ogden will be giving a Celebrity Recital as part of the Abergavenny Festival tomorrow (Thursday, 29th) at 7.30 pm in the Catholic Church of Our Lady and St Michael, Pen-y-Pound, Abergavenny. The programme is not known. The organ is a large and distinguished three-manual Copeman Hart, with alternative French and English voicing. The specification will be on our web site in the near future, but in the meantime is available from Cheryl or me at <info@copemanhart.co.uk>.   Ian   http://www.copemanhart.co.uk      
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe washing / cleaning - X post From: ORGANUT@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:54:36 EDT   In a message dated 7/28/99 7:06:30 AM Central Daylight Time, rick.locher@gte.net writes:   << For wooden pipes, I suggest mild soap and water with a clear water rinse and immediate drying by placing the pipes in = front of a fan (the rotating kind!). Hope this helps, Rick >>   This can be done "with caution and care". However,be sure to remove the stopper and the wood block from the mouth. Wash very quickly, and use a shop vac or compressed air to dry the pipe as quickly as possible. One can =   ruin wooden pipes very quickly when using water to clean them, if not extremely careful. This is not a recommended way to clean wood pipes.   Using compressed air to blow out dust from the interior and a damp cloth with something like 409 for removing exterior surface grime is a much = safer way to go.   Later, Phil L.  
(back) Subject: Whew! Was "Standards" and more ...??? From: KriderSM@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:28:19 EDT   In light of the post about the wedding from hell and that blonde in the sacristy, wouldn't you want to rephrase your comment?? ;-) Stan Krider   From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) >After all, we have ALL extremities working at the same time!!  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe washing / cleaning - X post From: Ray Sheppard <witsend@ovis.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:52:09 -0400       ORGANUT@aol.com wrote:   > In a message dated 7/28/99 7:06:30 AM Central Daylight Time, > rick.locher@gte.net writes: > > << For wooden pipes, I suggest mild soap and water > with a clear water rinse and immediate drying by placing the pipes in = front > of a fan (the rotating > kind!). Hope this helps, > Rick >> > > This can be done "with caution and care". However,be sure to remove = the > stopper and the wood block from the mouth. Wash very quickly, and use = a > shop vac or compressed air to dry the pipe as quickly as possible. One = can > ruin wooden pipes very quickly when using water to clean them, if not > extremely careful. This is not a recommended way to clean wood pipes. > > Using compressed air to blow out dust from the interior and a damp = cloth > with something like 409 for removing exterior surface grime is a much = safer > way to go. > > Later, > Phil L. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   Rather than subjecting wooden pipes to possible harmful effects of water, = there is a substance on the market called "Cotton Cleanser" for wood. This is non-toxic, can be applied with bare hands, (although I don't recommend = that), and then wiped off in a few minutes with rags. Be sure to use rags that = can be thrown away, because you will be amazed at the amount of gunk that will = come off the wooden surface. I have used this for years on good wooden furniture = with astonishing results. It doesn't change the wood, raise the grain, or = anything else. Just cleans things to like new shape, and really can make things = gleam. There is also one for metal, although I don't know how spotted metal would = do with it because I have only used it on brass and copper. At any rate, I = think I would try the Cotton Cleanser before I washed any wooden pipes. It can be = found at almost any good antique dealer or some paint stores as well. Good = luck.    
(back) Subject: Re: Whew! Was "Standards" and more From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:02:35 EDT   In a message dated 7/28/99 3:12:49 AM Central Daylight Time, mjolnir@ticnet.com writes:   << e followed by ":-|", ":-(", or even ":-["? ":-)" seems to spoil the effect. <grin> >> Touche ;-[  
(back) Subject: Re: An organist fired because of MIDI From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:26:25 -0700   At 07:06 AM 7/28/1999 EDT, you wrote: >The powers that be had her record about >50 hymns and then promptly let her go saying they didn't need her = services >anymore now that they had the recordings.<snip>   That's her fault for not claming copyright and performance rights to those recordings. She could have really stuck it in 'em 'n broke it off, if she wanted to. It would have been cheaper for the nursing home (notorious = white collar criminals that they are) to pay her for her services than to fight = a good entertainment lawyer.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: ORWELL VT organ in danger From: "Karl E. Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersv.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:07:34 -0400 (EDT)     The mint-condition 1865 E & G G Hook in the Congregational Church at Orwell VT is in danger of damage or destruction via a severe roof problem. The church has been advised to make major and expensive repairs, this fall on an emergency basis and next year on a more permanent basis, to their 1834 building, lest the roof fail under a heavy build-up of snow or the like.   The Hook is an absolute gem!! I recorded on it some years ago (Raven OAR-290), and the sound of that Hook on this recording is just thrilling. (I'll pass on any equivalent evaluation of the playing!!) The organ has become the focal point of an annual summertime recital, often to a packed church. (The place may seat ca. 250 people.) Past recitalists have included Charles Callahan, Peter Stoltzfus and Peter Sykes, to name just three. I understand that some thought has been given for the future Northern Vermont OHS convention to go that far south, in part because of the excellence of this instrument.   Permit me to suggest that those open to doing so might send whatever contribution you see fit and can afford to help this small congregation with its massive bill, likely to reach $100,000. The mailing from the church very cordially states that they'll be thankful for contributions of ANY size and will acknowledge same. Donations of $500 will yield an inscribed slate from the old roof, once it is taken down, and donatiosn over $1,000 yield one's name inscribed on a list to be hung in the church.   Mail to First Congregational Chruch P. O. Box 15 ORWELL VT 05760   They'll be glad you did. You will, too. Cordially,   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA    
(back) Subject: Re: ORWELL VT organ in danger From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:34:54 -0500   Wow, thanks for the warning!   This organ is indeed a gem. We vacation in Orwell regularly and my wife was up there a couple of weeks ago as substitute organist. She is due to go up to play again in August. Hope the roof holds!   The little church itself is a nice structure too, its tower holds the official village clock (belongs to village, not the church) which dates back to around 1890 - weight driven.   Keep us posted!   John V      
(back) Subject: Conn Serenade with pipes for sale. (cross-posted) From: "Ken Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:32:16 -0400   Friends have asked that I post this for them:   FOR SALE - Conn Model 631 Serenade (walnut console) with external Conn Rhythmaker and Model 145 Type 1 Symmetrical Electronic Pipes with walnut base. The Serenade is a console model with 2 61-note manuals and 25-note pedalboard. Instrument is located in Victor, NY, a Rochester suburb.   Asking $1500 or best offer. Please directly contact owner at CBJJG@Prodigy.Net or telephone at (716) 924-5217.   Reason for selling, moving from large house to small condo.    
(back) Subject: Conn Serenade Correction (cross-posted) From: "Ken Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:37:56 -0400   The e-mail address for those interested in buying the Conn Model 631 Serenade with Conn Model 145 Type 1 Electronic Pipes and Conn Rhythm unit should have been CBJJG1@Prodigy.Net. My fault for leaving out the "1" in the previous posting- 20 lashes to me! The phone no. was ok. 1 out of 2 isn't all bad.   Ken Evans    
(back) Subject: Re: An organist fired because of MIDI From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:33:22 -0400 (EDT)   There are those in the organ business that are sounding the alarm about this very issue!! It's not StarTrek--it's right upon us. Once churches figure out they can do this, watch out folks! --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Whew! Was "Standards" and more ...??? From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:46:01 -0400 (EDT)   >>In light of the post about the wedding from hell and that blonde in the sacristy, wouldn't you want to rephrase your comment?? ;-)<< Stan, you definitely have a point!! LOL . --Neil    
(back) Subject: Unwanted private e-mails From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:03:46 -0400 (EDT)   Sebastian and friends, At one of my previous churches (I dearly loved that place, was married there), I had 2 crotchety gentlemen that wrote letters to the Worship committee about me constantly. too loud, too this, too that, it's not our tradition, yada yada. But then a miraculous thing happened, they started on another issue and I was spared. At that church, the buzzword was: "Consider the source." Which was an immense source of support and comfort for me. All of this to say, Al can send it, but we don't have to read it. If we read it, we don't have to accept it. Consider the source. That's what the discard button is for. Al, you already have your reward, sir. --Neil Please pardon the double post.    
(back) Subject: Re: An organist fired because of MIDI From: Tom Hoehn <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 02:09:49 -0400   Been there, done that, and bought the t-shirt. It happened to me almost 3 yearas ago....   tom     N Brown wrote: > > There are those in the organ business that are sounding the alarm about > this very issue!!    
(back) Subject: input please From: "ray ahrens" <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:30:08 PDT   Hey Gang,   Today I found an envelope marked "Organist" in my box at church. The = letter reads in full:   "Sir:   I am sorry to tell you but your organ music is too loud and too long. We can't even hear ourselves sing. When the ushers are done passing = collection plates you can stop as we are ready for our praise. Cut your songs a = little shorter and the service will be shorter!"     Of course, no signature was affixed.   Your comments, please.     _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com  
(back) Subject: Re: input please From: Noel Stoutenburg <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 02:59:20 -0500   ray ahrens wrote:   > Hey Gang, > > Today I found an envelope marked "Organist" in my box at church. The = letter > reads in full:   1). Write   "Thank you for your comments. I will give them serious consideration.   c: file"   on a piece of paper.   2) Place the original and your answer in your response in a file. Doesn't matter which one; the one I usually use for such purposes is circular, = about 20" high, and 14" in dia.   3) If anyone ever mentions the letter to you, say "I wrote a response to = the person who sent it, told them I would consider their message, and filed a = copy."   4) That's the end of it.