PipeChat Digest #972 - Sunday, July 4, 1999
 
Re: out-of-tune organs
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: PipeChat Digest #970 - 07/03/99
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: The wedge w/o registration changes
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: What kind of organ do you have?(not a joke)
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Winfield Austin saved
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Winfield, (long) KS Austin saved
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Wish me luck
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: arguments about authenticity that go nowhere
  by <Icorgan@aol.com>
holiday
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Baptism Music
  by "Steven Margison" <steve@organman.com>
Re: Winfield Austin saved
  by "Frank Johnson" <usd465@hit.net>
MY APOLOGIES!
  by "Frank Johnson" <usd465@hit.net>
Re: Winfield, (long) KS Austin saved
  by "Frank Johnson" <usd465@hit.net>
re: performance, etc.
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net>
Organ Woes now GONE! =3D)
  by "Jason Klein" <OrganBoy@nwu.edu>
Re: Baptism Music
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Organ Woes now GONE! =3D)
  by "Rod Murrow" <murrows@pldi.net>
Correction!
  by "Walter W. Davis" <wdavis@electrotex.com>
Re: Winfield Austin saved
  by <ORGANUT@aol.com>
Re: Organ Woes now GONE! =3D)
  by <ORGANUT@aol.com>
Looking for Rodger Tech
  by "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@worldnet.att.net>
Re: out-of-tune organs
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: MY APOLOGIES!
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: MY APOLOGIES!
  by "Ron Yost" <musik@tcsn.net>
Re: Winfield, (long) KS Austin saved
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Sousa and the like
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: Sousa and the like
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
Re: performance, etc.
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: out-of-tune organs From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 12:49:58 +0100     >I've heard it said that in France tuning the mixtures is reserved for the >rebuild, every 30-50 years (grin).   Isn't the rest of the organ only tuned about every 5 years? I was told = that in such big organs as Notre-Dame or St Sulpice, regular tuning is just not practical because pipes are buried everywhere inside the case.   Our organs are tuned probably 3 times a year. The tuning holds quite well now we have the heating sorted out.   Richard    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #970 - 07/03/99 From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 12:52:36 +0100   >>Also obliterating the music by playing at breakneck speeds because one = can >>isn't necessarily musical either.<snip> > >Two names epitomized this concept: Bruce Prince-Joseph and Richard Ellsasser.     Wayne Marshall is an English concert organist/pianist who does this, although I love the recording of Ad Nos by him - in places breakneck can = be fun (but used sparingly!)   Richard    
(back) Subject: Re: The wedge w/o registration changes From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 13:06:53 +0100   On my recording of Cochereau playing Vierne 1, he solo's out more than is written. I don't know whether this is just his whim or whether there is an edition for a 5 manual instrument?   Richard    
(back) Subject: Re: What kind of organ do you have?(not a joke) From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 13:09:39 +0100   >Suggested reply ----Yes, the kind with black and white keys--------see = how     The organ I play has brown and dark brown keys! The other one at our = church has even darker brown and even more darker brown keys!!!   Richard.      
(back) Subject: Re: Winfield Austin saved From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 13:11:16 +0100   Congratulations Frank.   Now good luck on finding somewhere to put it back together!!!   Richard    
(back) Subject: Re: Winfield, (long) KS Austin saved From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 13:14:17 +0100   Frank,   Could I see those pictures too?   Thanks a lot.   Richard. rpinel@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk    
(back) Subject: Re: Wish me luck From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 13:14:38 +0100   Good luck!    
(back) Subject: Re: arguments about authenticity that go nowhere From: Icorgan@aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 08:38:19 EDT   In a message dated 7/3/99 4:48:11 PM Central Daylight Time, budchris@earthlink.net writes:   << I think nobody's gonna change anybody's mind on this ... but, to quote Landowska, "You play it your way, and I'll play it HIS (Bach's) way" ... (grin). >> I wonder how many harpsichordists of today would agree that Landowska was playing it HIS way. We could start by questioning her unauthentic instruments. I think I read somewhere they had metal plates like a modern piano. She played it HIS way as she understood it. Since none of were = there and Bach didn't have the foresight to leave us any recordings, I guess so = do the rest of us. We can only make an educated guess. Without an historic instrument or at least a good copy at our disposal, we do the best we can = and play it as we feel it. Bach can take an amazing amount of abuse, and differences of opinion about music were an everyday occurence to him. How else has he managed to survive those gawd-awful orchestral transcriptions = by Stowkowski, Ormandy, Ozawa et al? Maynard  
(back) Subject: holiday From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 08:01:00 -0500   HAPPY 4th OF JULY ONE AND ALL. HAVE FUN, BE SAFE, DRIVE CAREFULLY, DON'T DRINK TOO MUCH. WE WANT YOU BACK.   Rick dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net http://www.svs.net/Dutch        
(back) Subject: Re: Baptism Music From: "Steven Margison" <steve@organman.com> Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 09:19:30 -0500   Congratulations! I can assure you that people born on July 2 are beautiful, successful, talented, highly intelligent, witty, charming, = sexy, highly sought after as friends and companions, and damn near perfect.   I should know.....   Steve Margison born July 2, 1947   *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********   On 7/3/99, at 10:41 PM, Barry and Claire Bodie wrote:   >My wife and I had a daughter on 2 July! Her name is Diana Claire and she >weighed 6 pounds 5 ounces. We now have one child for each of our six = cats!     >>>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Steve Margison >>>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D www.organman.com >>>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D A "Family Friendly" Website    
(back) Subject: Re: Winfield Austin saved From: Frank Johnson <usd465@hit.net> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 09:45:03 -0500 (CDT)   >Congratulations Frank. > >Now good luck on finding somewhere to put it back together!!! > Now comes the REALLY interesting part. Thank you for you interest.   Frank   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader http://www.hit.net/~usd465/ 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156      
(back) Subject: MY APOLOGIES! From: Frank Johnson <usd465@hit.net> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 13:01:11 -0500 (CDT)   A number of persons had asked for the pictures of the removal of the Austin in Winfield, Kansas. I inadvertently sent the first batch to the list as I used the 'reply' thinking it had been a personal post. = Won't happen again.   Again, I'm sorry   Frank   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader http://www.hit.net/~usd465/ 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156      
(back) Subject: Re: Winfield, (long) KS Austin saved From: Frank Johnson <usd465@hit.net> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 13:02:24 -0500 (CDT)   I inadvertantly sent your requested pics to the entire. (I'm probably in trouble.) Please me know if you get them or not and I send them to you personally.   Frank   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader http://www.hit.net/~usd465/ 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156      
(back) Subject: re: performance, etc. From: Tim Bovard <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 13:41:35 -0500   Good afternoon, friends, and a happy Independence Day to my fellow US colleauges.   I've enjoyed all the responses to my posting of yesterday morning. (the Wedge w/o changes...) Last night, I had started to compose a (probably too) lengthy note of ellaboration/clarification, but got tired and went to bed before completing it. Lo and behold, with the morning's mail today, I find Dennis Goward's post, which says most everything I would have said, = in a more concise manner. Thank you, Dennis!   I direct your attention specifically to these words of his:   <snip> >"Who will determine if that performance is artistic? The audience. They >are the final judge. Now, if that implies commercial success, so be it. >What good is a historically accurate and technically perfect performance >if not enough people care to hear it? The starving "artist" concept doesn't >appeal to me." <snip>   I couldn't agree more. The "audience" has to be the priority, as far as I'm concerned, if only for the fact that they're the ones buying our instruments and paying our salaries. Despite a few examples to the contrary, I also still have faith that they can recognize the difference between "good" and "bad" (even if they haven't a clue about "why"). A true "ARTIST" should be able to use his own inherent senses to make this determination for them -- and, I think, should not have to feel limited by the constraints of 'authenticity by rote'.   As I mentioned yesterday, I feel most of us have a slightly more important issue to quibble about -- that of ensuring that the instrument (and ALL its music) that we love so much is preserved for all future generations. Once THIS issue is laid to rest (if ever) I'll be happy to debate matters of taste relating to performance practice. In the meantime, let's try to do the very best we can with whatever situation we have at hand (no matter what that might entail...), thereby sharing the 'magic' of the organ with as large an audience as possible. Thusly, we can all help to ensure that the instrument we hold so dear will, in fact, survive for all eternity.   Thanks, everyone, for hearing me out.   TMB    
(back) Subject: Organ Woes now GONE! =) From: "Jason Klein" <OrganBoy@nwu.edu> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 13:58:44 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0018_01BEC625.54750F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hi Everyone!   About a month and a half back I wrote a message about First Presbyerian = =3D Church of Arlington Heights, IL's organ woes. (I'm the Associate =3D Organist) Well, I just wanted to write again and let everyone know that = =3D the repairs and cleaning and repainting of the sanctuary are almost =3D done. It's amazing how much a Tin Celing in the Chambers, pipe cleaning, = =3D and vacumming screens can make to an organ. It sounds MAGNIFICENT! The =3D mighty Schantz probably hasn't sounded this nice since it was installed = =3D in 1972.   A note about the room now. When I was at the church on Thursday, they =3D had all of the pew cushions out as they were finishing some work still. = =3D I was amazed to hear about 3+ seconds of reverb with just the pew =3D cushions being gone. Not to mention that the paint had sealed minute =3D holes in the plaster and made a harder surface throught the church. =3D Well, fast forward to this morning. Pew cushions were back, and the room = =3D character was different. The reverb was cut a little less than 2 =3D seconds. =3D3D( I'm gonna try and have a campaign to remove them. =3D3D) = =3D Anyone want to be my campaign advisor?!   Just wanted to write an update. Thanx to everyone for your nice emails =3D and such!   Jason     Jason Klein Associate Organist - First Presbyterian Church, Arlington Heights, IL Organ Performance Major - Northwestern University, Evanston, IL   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0018_01BEC625.54750F80 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD>   <META content=3D3Dtext/html;charset=3D3Diso-8859-1 =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3D3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>Hi Everyone!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>About a month and a half back I = =3D wrote a message=3D20 about First Presbyerian Church of Arlington Heights, IL's organ woes. =3D (I'm the=3D20 Associate Organist) Well, I just wanted to write again and let everyone = =3D know=3D20 that the repairs and cleaning and repainting of the sanctuary are almost = =3D done.=3D20 It's amazing how much a Tin Celing in the Chambers, pipe cleaning, and =3D vacumming=3D20 screens can make to an organ. It sounds MAGNIFICENT! The mighty Schantz = =3D probably=3D20 hasn't sounded this nice since it was installed in 1972.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>A note about the room now. When I = =3D was at the=3D20 church on Thursday, they had all of the pew cushions out as they were =3D finishing=3D20 some work still. I was amazed to hear about 3+ seconds of reverb with =3D just the=3D20 pew cushions being gone. Not to mention that the paint had sealed minute = =3D holes=3D20 in the plaster and made a harder surface throught the church. Well, fast = =3D forward=3D20 to this morning. Pew cushions were back, and the room character was =3D different.=3D20 The reverb was cut a little less than 2 seconds. =3D3D( I'm gonna try and = =3D have a=3D20 campaign to remove them. =3D3D) Anyone want to be my campaign =3D advisor?!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>Just wanted to write an update. = =3D Thanx to=3D20 everyone for your nice emails and such!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>Jason</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>Jason Klein</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>Associate Organist - First =3D Presbyterian Church,=3D20 Arlington Heights, IL</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>Organ Performance Major - =3D Northwestern=3D20 University, Evanston, IL</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0018_01BEC625.54750F80--    
(back) Subject: Re: Baptism Music From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 15:02:26 EDT   Dr. Bodie,   Congrats on the new addition to your family!   Here are a few suggestions for organ preludes for your child's baptism:   Liebster Jesu, wir sind hier BWV 373 Christ unser Herr zum Jordan kam BWV 684 Herr Jesu Christ, dich zu uns wind BWV 655 Fantasia on "Komm, heilgier Geist" BWV 651 Von Gott will Ich nicht lassen BWV 658 (though in a dark minor key it hints at the joy that God will never leave us -- thus very appropriate for Baptism)   The other chorale preludes are very fitting for they reference the Holy Spirit coming to mankind -- and of course in "Christ unser Herr zum Jordan =   kam" refers to Christ's own baptism by John. In "Liebster Jesu, wir sind hier" the text refers to baptism as well.   I do hope this helps. (I will now duck because I know that Bruce C. hates =   chorale preludes. However, I LOVE them and play them very frequently!)   Again, congrats!   John A. Gambill, Jr. Organist/Choirmaster Oak Cliff Lutheran Church (ELCA) Dallas, Texas  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Woes now GONE! =) From: Rod Murrow <murrows@pldi.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 14:06:12 -0500     --------------D06EE7C50CBF0398811B8D0E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   2 seconds would be marvelous - try ZERO for awhile! FPCAlva takes care of their rears, but not their ears!   Rodney Murrow First Presbyterian Church Alva, OK   Jason Klein wrote:   > Hi Everyone! About a month and a half back I wrote a message about > First Presbyerian Church of Arlington Heights, IL's organ woes. (I'm > the Associate Organist) Well, I just wanted to write again and let > everyone know that the repairs and cleaning and repainting of the > sanctuary are almost done. It's amazing how much a Tin Celing in the > Chambers, pipe cleaning, and vacumming screens can make to an organ. > It sounds MAGNIFICENT! The mighty Schantz probably hasn't sounded this > nice since it was installed in 1972. A note about the room now. When I > was at the church on Thursday, they had all of the pew cushions out as > they were finishing some work still. I was amazed to hear about 3+ > seconds of reverb with just the pew cushions being gone. Not to > mention that the paint had sealed minute holes in the plaster and made > a harder surface throught the church. Well, fast forward to this > morning. Pew cushions were back, and the room character was different. > The reverb was cut a little less than 2 seconds. =3D( I'm gonna try and > have a campaign to remove them. =3D) Anyone want to be my campaign > advisor?! Just wanted to write an update. Thanx to everyone for your > nice emails and such! Jason Jason KleinAssociate Organist - First > Presbyterian Church, Arlington Heights, ILOrgan Performance Major - > Northwestern University, Evanston, IL   --------------D06EE7C50CBF0398811B8D0E Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"> 2 seconds would be marvelous - try ZERO for awhile!&nbsp; FPCAlva takes care of their rears, but not their ears! <p>Rodney Murrow <br>First Presbyterian Church <br>Alva, OK <p>Jason Klein wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE>&nbsp;<font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Hi = Everyone!</font></font>&nbsp;<font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>About a month and a half back I wrote a message about First Presbyerian Church of Arlington Heights, IL's organ woes. (I'm the Associate Organist) Well, I just wanted to write again and let everyone know that the repairs and cleaning and repainting of the sanctuary are almost done. It's amazing how much a Tin Celing in the Chambers, pipe cleaning, and vacumming = screens can make to an organ. It sounds MAGNIFICENT! The mighty Schantz probably hasn't sounded this nice since it was installed in = 1972.</font></font>&nbsp;<font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>A note about the room now. When I was at the church on Thursday, they had all of the pew cushions out as they were finishing some work still. I was amazed to hear about 3+ seconds of reverb with just the pew cushions being gone. Not to mention that the paint had sealed minute holes in the plaster and made a harder surface throught the church. Well, fast forward to this morning. Pew cushions were back, and the room character was different. The reverb was cut a little less than 2 seconds. =3D( I'm gonna try and = have a campaign to remove them. =3D) Anyone want to be my campaign = advisor?!</font></font>&nbsp;<font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Just wanted to write an update. Thanx to everyone for your nice emails and = such!</font></font>&nbsp;<font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D-1>Jason</font></font>&nbsp;&nbsp;<font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D-1>Jason Klein</font></font><font color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Associate = Organist - First Presbyterian Church, Arlington Heights, IL</font></font><font = color=3D"#000000"><font size=3D-1>Organ Performance Major - Northwestern University, Evanston, = IL</font></font></blockquote>   </body> </html>   --------------D06EE7C50CBF0398811B8D0E--    
(back) Subject: Correction! From: "Walter W. Davis" <wdavis@electrotex.com> Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 14:22:37 -0500   I meant to say that tha A-S console in Riverside Church was in place in 1951, not 1961! And it did indeed control the old H&H for around 4 years.    
(back) Subject: Re: Winfield Austin saved From: ORGANUT@aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 15:37:44 EDT   In a message dated 7/4/99 9:47:16 AM Central Daylight Time, usd465@hit.net =   writes:   << >Congratulations Frank. > >Now good luck on finding somewhere to put it back together!!! > Now comes the REALLY interesting part. Thank you for you interest. Frank >> Kudos on a job well done. You and your helpers are to be commended for your hard work and dedication to saving this instrument.   Later, Phil L.  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Woes now GONE! =) From: ORGANUT@aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 15:44:03 EDT   In a message dated 7/4/99 1:58:12 PM Central Daylight Time, = OrganBoy@nwu.edu writes:   << A note about the room now. When I was at the church on Thursday, they had =   all of the pew cushions out as they were finishing some work still. I was amazed to hear about 3+ seconds of reverb with just the pew cushions being =   gone. Not to mention that the paint had sealed minute holes in the plaster =   and made a harder surface throught the church. Well, fast forward to this morning. Pew cushions were back, and the room character was different. The =   reverb was cut a little less than 2 seconds. =3D( I'm gonna try and have a =   campaign to remove them. =3D) Anyone want to be my campaign advisor?! Just wanted to write an update. Thanx to everyone for your nice emails = and such! >> GOOD LUCK Jason. I hope you are successful. However, we Presbyterians = and Baptist usually want to be carpeted and cushioned up to our armpits. (apparantly it innoculates the sanctuary against Reverberation/echo)   Later, Phil L  
(back) Subject: Looking for Rodger Tech From: "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 13:29:08 -0700   Can anyone recommend a qualified, competant and reasonable Rodgers Organ tech in the Denver, CO area? We need to recommend someone up there to a friend who needs work on a Rodgers Trio 321B   Dennis Goward   Personal: http://members.xoom.com/dgoward/ Business: http://www.desertsounds.com http://www.desertsoft.net    
(back) Subject: Re: out-of-tune organs From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 13:24:58 -0700   The story is told that during the years preceding the last rebuild, there = WERE many pipes at Notre Dame that were inaccessible because so much was jammed = into the case. However, it's my impression that UNbastardized Cavaille-Colls = are known for their spacious layout ... didn't CC say something like the ideal layout was to be able to WALK around EACH pipe? I also remember reading = about spacious MAHOGANY walk-boards in C-C's organs. EVERYTHING in a C-C organ = was ABSOLUTELY first-rate.   Cheers,   Bud   Richard Pinel wrote:   > >I've heard it said that in France tuning the mixtures is reserved for = the > >rebuild, every 30-50 years (grin). > > Isn't the rest of the organ only tuned about every 5 years? I was told = that > in such big organs as Notre-Dame or St Sulpice, regular tuning is just = not > practical because pipes are buried everywhere inside the case. > > Our organs are tuned probably 3 times a year. The tuning holds quite = well > now we have the heating sorted out. > > Richard > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: MY APOLOGIES! From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 13:47:03 -0700   At 01:01 PM 7/4/1999 -0500, you wrote: > A number of persons had asked for the pictures of the removal of >the Austin in Winfield, Kansas.<snip>   Hi, Frank!   First, add my congratulations to the list of those wishing you well with = the little Austin! Second, could I request some pix of the removal event? = I'm quite an Austin fan, large or small. Thanks!   Cordially,   Bob Scarborough    
(back) Subject: Re: MY APOLOGIES! From: Ron Yost <musik@tcsn.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 14:59:20 -0700   I'd love to see them also, Frank .. when and if you get caught up! :-) Please send to: musik@tcsn.net   Ron Yost  
(back) Subject: Re: Winfield, (long) KS Austin saved From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 17:59:14 EDT   Hi Frank---- I did not get any pics,,,and no notification as well that there were = any sent by Email, but then, hasn't Dennis invoked a "filter" to keep = attachments out of the bandwidth? Please send them privately to me if at all possible, and in any = format but ..mim---as AOL has trouble dealing with that format. Thanks loads Frank,,,and Happy 4th of July to you and yours!   Regards, ---Roc  
(back) Subject: Sousa and the like From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 18:55:31 -0500   I know the E.P. Biggs' arrangement of "Stars and Stripes Forever", but are there any other great organ transcriptions of like material, like "The National Emblem" or "Sempre Fi" or marches/anthems/Sousa-like material?   Please provide publisher/ordering information if possible.   Thanks,   Glenda Sutton (having had my fireworks last night, my Stars and Stripes this morning, and waiting for the Boston Pops to begin)      
(back) Subject: Re: Sousa and the like From: DudelK@aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 21:00:12 EDT   Carlo and others have recorded the Liberty Bell March. It must be = published somehwere but I haven't seen it.  
(back) Subject: Re: performance, etc. From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 20:30:17 -0500   Hi All... As regards to playing pieces by the old masters with flying fingers, fancy pedal work, registration changes every-other measure, think what Herr Bach and his peers had to work with. Mechanical instruments, probably the best in their time, some enclosed in one cabinet structure up in the loft, some scattered thru-out the +ACI-mile-long+ACI- cathredral - consider the recording Biggs did in quad = sound in the 70s. It was at Leipzig, if I'm not mistaken. Four complete organs (one in each corner of the cathredral) played from one central console. Each organ came thru a separate channel on your quad stereo. Surely these instruments were not capable of +ACI-Flight of the = Bumblebee+ACI- in double-time, whereas todays 20th century instruments most likely are (with rare exceptions, I'm sure). If Bach played a piece at a certain cadence to fit the (response) of the instrument of HIS time, should organists' today play that same piece at lightning speed JUST BECAUSE the instrument- and they- of capable of doing so? On the same token, maybe the composer MEANT a piece to be played a = certain way, then it should be kept-so. Keep the music as the composer origionally had in mind. Maybe the audiance will bite, maybe not. I know none of us were turning pages for the masters back then, and may = not really know for sure what the composer was thinking when he wrote the = piece, outside of measure notations- PP, MF, Adagio, etc. One can only take an educated guess at the over-all feeling of the music. Have I talked myself around in circles and into a corner again? I hope I made my thoughts clear. I'll shut up now. Thanks,   Rick dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net