PipeChat Digest #987 - Wednesday, July 14, 1999 Re: decrepit Moller by "John L. Speller" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: Messiaen by "Bob Scarborough" <email@example.com> Re: decrepit Moller by "Bob Scarborough" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
(back) Subject: Re: decrepit Moller From: "John L. Speller" <email@example.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 20:37:49 -0500 Jason D. Comet wrote: >=20 > >> Is there any interest in a severly vandalized 6-rank > >tubular > >>pneumatic pipe organ for parts? The console (rocking tablet) is in > >good > >>condition, but the pipework has been trashed by school kids. The > >stopped > >>diapason and 30-note pedal bourdon are OK, facade is staying in the > >>church. The pedal offset and 6-rank chests might be useful for direct > >>electric conversion. There is a 3 1/2" wind Kinetic blower. This is > >all > >>second-hand info...I suspect the stuff would come cheap but the > >church > >>has to be contacted ASAP, 'cause they're eager with the chain saws. > >>Located in central PA, but I would be in that area to visit my reed > >organ > >>buddy... Robert >=20 > My friend organ techie says he would like to look or purchase a > tubular-pneumatic action Moller Organ. We are trying to find a > fixer-upper to discover some new info about Moller organs. >=20 > If you would like to send the info to me, I'd let him know about it. I= t > is only about 8 hours away from us to pick it up. >=20 M=F6ller tubular organs are of two kinds. The later kind, made only from c. 1918-1920, was a tubular pitman instrument -- similar to a normal electro-pneumatic M=F6ller, but with tubular primaries. These are very fine instruments and can be restored the same way as any other M=F6ller. Unfortunately the majority of tubular M=F6llers, built in 1876-c.1915, ar= e of the bar-and-membrane tubular type. To cut a long story short there is a leather membrane which has to seal and in which the tension in the leather is critical. The weather inevitably causes the leather to expand and contract, and bang goes the adjustment. Most people who have tried to restore one of these instruments have ended up with a nightmare of ciphers and dead notes. It might theoretically be possible to restore one satisfactorily if one used totally stretch-proof leather.=20 Kangaroo might work if one were able to obtain a satisfactory and consistent supply of it, which no leather supplier I know who has attempted it has ever managed to do so, at least in the long term. The late Jim Akright of Baltimore claimed to have satisfactorily restored a M=F6ller bar-and-membrane tubular using graded thicknesses of rubbercloth. Even when working properly, however, the bar-and-membrane chests are extremely unkind to pipe speech -- resulting in a sound rather like the valve bounce of an early Wicks direct electric. My advice, therefore, to anyone who has a M=F6ller tubular with bar-and-membrane action is under no circumstances to attempt to restore the chests. If you have such an instrument with good pipework, get some secondhand chests from the Clearing House or elsewhere and use those instead. John Speller, St. Louis, Mo.
(back) Subject: Re: Messiaen From: Bob Scarborough <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:13:02 -0700 At 09:06 PM 7/13/1999 -0400, you wrote: >Ooooh Iccch!=20 > >Were they the kind that had wiry black haird growing out of them??? Broose needs sum =D2^=D2=AC He dun sed MODES...NOT moles! hehehehe!
(back) Subject: Re: decrepit Moller From: Bob Scarborough <email@example.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:13:35 -0700 At 08:37 PM 7/13/1999 -0500, you wrote: >Unfortunately the majority of tubular M=F6llers, built in 1876-c.1915, are >of the bar-and-membrane tubular type. To cut a long story short there >is a leather membrane which has to seal and in which the tension in the >leather is critical. The weather inevitably causes the leather to >expand and contract, and bang goes the adjustment.<snip> Been there, done that with a tube-pneu M=F5ller of 1904. One bit of= humidity change, and it's time to head over to the Hammond! There is a "pre-stretched" grade of pneu leather that you're suppoed to use in the membrane-and-bar chests, but I can't remember what it's called. Surely there must be a better synthetic substitute with all of today's technology!! DeserTBoB