PipeChat Digest #996 - Thursday, July 22, 1999
 
Re: (No subject)
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
A FEW CDZ FOR SALE
  by "Robert  Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net>
Recital Announcement (X-Posted)
  by "Stephen F. P. Karr" <karr_sf@ACADMN.MERCER.EDU>
date request
  by "Robert  Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net>
Re: date request
  by "Petri Vahatalo" <petri.vahatalo@dlc.fi>
Re: date request
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Residence pipe organ progress- some questions
  by "Jan Vanderstad" <dcob@nac.net>
Re: (No subject)
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
stations
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: (No subject)
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
the painful fall
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
AGO Region II Convention
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: the painful fall
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: the painful fall
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: the painful fall
  by "Richard Scott-Copeland" <organist@gemshorn.freeserve.co.uk>
Fw: Inaugural Recital Christchurch Priory, England
  by "Richard Scott-Copeland" <organist@gemshorn.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: (No subject)
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: (No subject) From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:14:12 -0400 (EDT)     >Robert, I don't believe CCM has hurt our field. > It has simply expanded it. --Neil Beg to differ!!! I believe CCM has not only hurt our field, but significantly contributed to the loss of order and dignity in worship (to wit applause after anthems). It has been a significant factor in turning worship into a minor carnival, or poorly presented road show. People's musical taste has been significantly plunged below the level of mediocrity. Oooooooooooh.... don't get m started!!! ;-(   Bruce & the Baskerbeagles ~~+~~+~~ rohrschok8@webtv.net ~~+~~+~~   Cowardly dogs bark loudest. -- John Webster    
(back) Subject: A FEW CDZ FOR SALE From: "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:29:49 -0500   Hi: Before I auction these on EBAY, I thought I would give my pipechat friends first crack. Please email me direct with specific questions or for a picture of the item. These are imports picked up on tour and I will part with them for 12.00 each which includes library rate shipping. Will only ship within the USA.     1) ROYAL REVIEW: Music for the Changing of the Guard at Buckingham Palace featuring the Band of the Grenadier Guards performing 20 selections. Disc is in mint cond. ISIS RECORDS DDDRCCD01 75 min playing time - perfect cond.   2) CLOSE OF THE DAY The Chapel Choir and Organ of Hampton Court Palace = with Brass Ensemble. 21 various selections.Disc is in mint cond. 66 min playing time DDD CSACD3051.     3) ORGAN IMPERIAL: The 1891 Willis Organ at Blenheim Palace performed by Martin Souter 10 selections, excellent program notes, in mint cond. ISIS RECORDS DDD.   Robert Eversman highnote@mhtc.net  
(back) Subject: Recital Announcement (X-Posted) From: "Stephen F. P. Karr" <karr_sf@ACADMN.MERCER.EDU> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:36:39 -0400   Hello, lists-   I will be playing a recital at Shandon United Methodist Church in = Columbia, SC, USA on 1 August 1999 at 4:30 PM. The program will be (tentatively):   J.S. Bach: Prelude and Fugue in a minor (BWV 543) J. Brahms: from Elf Choralevorspiele (op. 122) O wie selig seid ihr doch Schmuecke dich, o liebe Seele Es ist ein Ros' entsprungen Timothy Tikker: Variations sur un Vieux Noel C. S. Lang: Tuba Tune J. S. Bach: Fantasia and Fugue in c minor (BWV 537) Louis Vierne: from Vingt-Quatre Pieces en Style Libre Berceuse Pastorale Leo Sowerby: from Symphony in G Passacaglia   The organ is a 1994 vintage Moller (which apparently was picked up by a = church member when the company went bankrupt, and was installed after they = officially went out of business). It is, from my judgement, a very fine instrument, = and suits this music very well. I enjoy playing it, even though it is very = loud from the console. Anyone who is in this area, I invite you to come, and = to make yourselves known afterwards.   -Stephen Karr      
(back) Subject: date request From: "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:26:26 -0500   I can't seem to locate my web address which linked me with endless names and dates of musicians. If anyone knows of it please let me know.   For right now, I need the death year of Jan Bender. HELP thanks !   Robert Eversman highnote@mhtc.net  
(back) Subject: Re: date request From: Petri Vahatalo <petri.vahatalo@dlc.fi> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:36:51 +0300   >For right now, I need the death year of Jan Bender. HELP thanks !   Jan Oskar Bender 1909-1994   source: J. Henderson: A directory of composers for the organ.   Hope this helps,   -Petri   ----------------------------------------------------------------- Petri Vahatalo, Pharmacist Krankantie 6 A 8, FIN-00400 Helsinki, Finland tel. +358 9 587 7427, fax +358 9 587 7428 mobile +358 50 64336, e-mail petri.vahatalo@dlc.fi -----------------------------------------------------------------  
(back) Subject: Re: date request From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:31:07 -0500   Jan Oskar Bender: born 3 February 1909, died 29 December 1994. See the Wash U musicians necrology at <http://library.wustl.edu/Units/Music/necro>   Hope this helps,   John Speller   Robert Eversman wrote: > > I can't seem to locate my web address which linked me with endless names > and dates of musicians. If anyone knows of it please let me know. > > For right now, I need the death year of Jan Bender. HELP thanks ! > > Robert Eversman > highnote@mhtc.net > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Residence pipe organ progress- some questions From: Jan Vanderstad <dcob@nac.net> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:08:26 -0400   Good Evening listers For those of you who may not have seen my last posting, I have acquired the pipe organ from the home of a Mr. Brinkman in NJ. Last weekend, my brother and I went there to accomplish the "simple" tasks involved in removing the organ. We were able to take apart the swell shades and move all the main pipework and chimes. Today, with the help of three other men we were able to move the "big stuff." a 1 HP Spencer blower, reservoir, console, and all the offset pipes and chests. Now, the whole works is in my garage and basement room awaiting assembly. So far, I was able to stack the wooden 16' Gedeckt bass horizontally on the back wall of the organ. Basically, many of the components fit in the same position as they did in their "old home." The console was a close call, moving out and moving in. Doors were 30" deep; console 29" deep. Fortunately no standing on end was required. As for questions, here they are: I sometimes read on-list of those who use telephone connectors to simplify the wiring. How successful is this? Are there other types of connectors which would work just as well? For one rank, which was a later addition, it looks like 37 pin data cable connectors were used, but each wire was soldered to the pin. Are there by any chance 25 or 37 pin soderless connectors out there on the market? I looked in the OSI and a few other catalogs, but searches were fruitless. Perhaps somebody on the list could direct me to a decent source. I hope to, someday, post pictures of my work in progress when I have the time. For now, I took a couple of pictures of the components taking up a good chunk of space in my garage. I will try to fill the list in as time goes on. Jan Vanderstad  
(back) Subject: Re: (No subject) From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 23:59:13 -0400 (EDT)   Ok Bruce, I won't get you started. 8-) In MY church, it is an addition to our repertoire, I will not allow it to replace our repertoire (with the exception of the informal service). I think that is what I hope I meant. --Neil    
(back) Subject: stations From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:20:18 -0400 (EDT)   I wish to say that we have one of the finest classical stations ANYWHERE, bar none. WWFM/WWNJ here in New Jersey (and in several locales in Colo) has good announcers and their programming is varied and enjoyable. These folks KNOW their stuff. The only complaint I have is they don't air Pipedreams, but Michael, sir, I request it everytime I call in my pledge. This station does not churn out the Classical Top 20 day after day after day. Please don't lump ALL announcers together. Thank you, very much. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: (No subject) From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:28:06 -0400 (EDT)   On Piporg-L there is currently a discussion of Christ Church -Charlotte NC (I believe). The exceptional music program is being dismantled because it is not "modern enough". CCM is replacing everything. I hate to pop your bubble, but when the powers that be (above your head) decide to eliminate traditional music and go totally CCM, you're going to either do it their way or your out on your butt. There is no way around it. I've seen it happen over and over again. Every time I have tried to do a mix, the CCM people want more and more and more and ARE NOT SATISFIED until all traditional music is gone. You have no control over it, and if you fool yourself into believing that you are in for a very long and painful fall.   Bruce & the Baskerbeagles ~~+~~+~~ rohrschok8@webtv.net ~~+~~+~~   Cowardly dogs bark loudest. -- John Webster    
(back) Subject: the painful fall From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:43:54 -0400 (EDT)   Bruce, in some ways you are quite right. I just talked to someone today (Wed) that is fighting that battle in their position, so I know that what you say is happening. But, for the moment, I work for a pastor that is more traditionally ingrained than I am. So until the Bishop moves him, we're alright. Now, the other piece-- in order to get the asst. organist position I've wanted for 5 years, I had to assume music leadership in the informal service. So, I'm the only staff person doing 3 Sun. A.M. services. I'm not saying it's easy here either. I do say, our church has offered an alternative. And so far, it is working. And, if they don't pay me more with this next budget year, I'll, I'll, I'll shake the dust off my feet, etc. --Neil    
(back) Subject: AGO Region II Convention From: Myosotis51@aol.com Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:50:05 EDT   Dear Pipechatters: I'm baa-aack!!!! The AGO Region II convention was terrific. Here's a = brief rundown on what I did. "Home base" was the Sheraton in Smithtown, Long Island, NY - near everything, but thoroughly tied up in traffic. = Blessedly there was bus service, so there was a little collapse time in the = schedule. Unfortunately, I had opted to commute, and then discovered that ALL the routes from my home to the hotel were under destruction. The drive took = at least 1 1/2 hours each way, so I was doing all this fun stuff on less than = 5 hours sleep each night........exhausting, but SO worthwhile!!! Sunday, 7/11 I had to skip the opening day due to family obligations. *sob* Monday, 7/12 9:00 Matins Service at St. Peter's Lutheran Church, Huntington Station. Organist: Matthew Van Brink Instrument: Casavant II/41, 1968 9:30 Workshop: "Organ Repetoire Ideas," Carol Weitner 10:45 Recital by Winner of Regional Competition for Young Organists Gloria Dei Lutheran Church, Huntington Station Organist: Svetlana Fiakhretdinova Instrument: Peragallo Organ III/36 Opus 527, 1988/1994 12:00 Lunch at Hotel 3:30 Recital: Rossina Vrionides deGomez St. Joseph's R.C. Church, Garden City Instrument: Fratelli Ruffatti Organ III/46 1979/1995 4:40 Study in Psalmody: Singing the Hard Psalms Calvin Seerveld 8:00 Recital: Lynn Davis Cathedral of the Incarnation, Garden City Instrument: Casavant Organ IV/103, 1986 10:45 - 1:15 Reception etc. Tuesday 7/13 9:30 Recital: Mark Bani St. Thomas Episcopal Church, Farmingdale Instrument: Schantz Organ II/15, 1998 11:30 Lunch, Abiding Presence Lutheran Church, Ft. Salonga 12:45 Regional meeting, Ft. Salonga 1:15 Recital: William Entriken Abiding Presence Lutheran Church Instrument: Schlicker Organ II//41, 1954 3:30 Recital: Fred Backhaus Christ Church, Oyster Bay Instrument: Hellmuth Wolff & Associes, II/43, 1986 5:00 Concert: Camerata Singers St. Patrick's R.C. Church, Huntington Instrument: Moller Organ III/24, Opus 9751, 1963 8:00 Recital: Carol Weitner Immaculate Conception Seminary, Huntington Instrument: Skinner Organ III/28, 1930 10 - 12 Reception etc. at the hotel Wednesday 8:30 Masterclass: "Probing the Organ Works of Bach," Frank Morana 11:00 Recital: Will Headlee St. Joseph's R.C. Church, Kings Park Instrument: 2:15 Recital: Robert Edward Smmith, Harpsichord Infant Jeses R.C. Church, Port Jefferson 4:00 Recital: Walter Hilse St. James R.C. Church, Setauket Instrument: 4:30 Closing Service, St. James R.C. Church 8:00 Queen Esther Marrow Gospel Concert (I didn't go to this. I was too wiped out! Smithtown Gospel Tabernacle Thursday, 7/15 Organ Crawl in the Hamptons St. John's Episcopal Church, Southampton 1969 Moller II/15 St. Andrew's Dune Church, Southampton 1969 Moller, enlarged by Wicks 1996 - II/17 Residence organ, home of Charlotte Rogers Smith, Bridgehampton Lynn Dobson, Opus 39 II/8, 1988 360 pipes, mechanical action Bridgehampton Methodist Church 1989 Casavant II/27, 1989 Sag Harbor United Methodist Church 1902 Moller tracker, unmodified!!!! Old Whaler's Church, Sag Harbor Henry Erben, NY, 1845 Modified: Earle & Bradley, Riverhead, NY 1872 Modified: Mann & Trupiano, NY 1978 This organ still has a hand-pump bellows, as well as the electric one. St. Luke's Episcopal Church, East Hampton Wicks III/28 It was a terrific experience. It was so much fun to meet other = organists - a very rare occurence, since we're all playing for different churches at = the same time! I've been convinced to take a more active role in my chapter = of the AGO, and I'll be doing the newsletter, and most likely the web page, = for the Sunrise Chapter of the AGO. Yours, Vicki Ceruti Organist, Center Moriches Methodist Church Home of the Mighty Hammond >>  
(back) Subject: Re: the painful fall From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:55:06 EDT   Neil...   Best of ruck and I'll keep you in my prayers... I went through this crap = many moons ago and I finally bailed and was much happier in the long run. I = say if they want the CCM -- let 'em have it, with my resignation to boot :-)   John  
(back) Subject: Re: the painful fall From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:12:54 -0400 (EDT)   >>I say if they want the CCM -- let 'em have it, with my resignation to boot :-) John<<   John, 2/3s of me agrees with you. I left the Baptist Convention because I was so sick of the trend. But, alas, it has come back to "haunt?" me. However, because I can do it, I do CCM for the people that attend. It is my cross to bear. They are thrilled, and I know it's being done right -- which means a lot to me. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: the painful fall From: "Richard Scott-Copeland" <organist@gemshorn.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:25:41 +0100     I fear that things are much the same here in England, too.   I know two organists in this city who have prematurely "retired" (or been forced to retire) in the last month because they just cannot play this CCM music. The gentlemen concerned are in their sixties, but have many year's service behind them and, indeed, are capable and willing to give many = more.   These people are ORGANISTS, not PIANISTS and are just not able to adapt these modern tunes, with syncopation etc. to the organ. In the end, they just give up, hang their organ shoes up, and leave their respective churches. I should point out that one organist is from a United Reformed Church, with a good three manual Willis organ, in the City, and the other = is from the Church of England, with a half-decent 2 manual Makin organ (electronic), the church being, quite literally, in the middle of the country. All the hard work they have put in over the years (nearly 90 years service between them) seems to count for absolutely naught and it is very sad to = see this.   Richard Scott-Copeland        
(back) Subject: Fw: Inaugural Recital Christchurch Priory, England From: "Richard Scott-Copeland" <organist@gemshorn.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:29:14 +0100     -----Original Message----- From: Richard Scott-Copeland <organist@x-stream.co.uk> PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: 19 July 1999 09:30 Subject: Inaugural Recital Christchurch Priory, England     >It isn't often that one gets the chance to hear an inaugural recital on a >new pipe organ of any size these days, but on Saturday last, I visited >Christchurch Priory in Dorset to hear the long awaited new organ put through >its paces by the venerable Nicholas Kynaston. > >For those who are unaware of the organ situation of this very large = parish >church, the first organ was built by Alexander Cummings in 1788. >Subsequently restored in 1848 and then rebuilt by Father Willis in 1865, and >by Ginn Bros.. in 1890. >A major rebuild was undertaken in 1951 by the John Compton Organ Company, >with electrification. Major revoicing of the pipework was not possible >because of the lack of funds, and many of the stops were prepared for, >although in subsequent years, some were added as and when funds became >available. The nave section of the instrument was added in 1964 by Degens >and Rippin. By 1973, the instrument was almost unplayable and the = decision >was taken to obtain an electronic instrument and the money set aside for the >eventual restoration of the pipe organ was instead used to provide for a new >gas-fired central heating system. The pipes of the once heroic instrument >were left to gather dust in the South Transept and Triforium. >This brings us to the present day when, once again, in all its glory, a pipe >organ was heard in the Priory. A successful appeal to both the National >Lottery and the public at large raised a magnificent sum of 500,000 = pounds, >the amount required to completely restore the organ. > >A packed Priory church assembled to hear the new organ. Unfortunately, I was >late, due to the fact that I had to play for mass at Portsmouth = Cathedral >but I drove it from Portsmouth to Christchurch in 35 minutes - I won't = tell >you exactly how fast I went - ahem! >Suffice it to say that I only missed the first item on the programme. > >The Programme. > >1st half (played on the mostly tracker action "Gallery Console") >Concerto Grosso in C minor, op6 no. 3 - Correlli >Choral Prelude, Herr Jesu Christ, dich zu wend (BWV 709) Bach >Prelude and Fugue in E minor, "The Wedge" (BWV 548) Bach >Fantasia 'Aedis Christi' - specially commissioned for the recital - = Francis >Pott (b.1957) > >Interval > >2nd Half (played on the electric "Nave Console") > >Choral no 3 in A minor - Franck >Colloquio con le Rondini Op. 40 no. 2 - Bossi >Sonata Eroica - Jongen. > >Although the priory was absolutely packed, the organ held up well, in = spite >of the fact that it is installed out of sight to the main body of the church >on the existing gallery in the South Transept. Initially, it sounded a >little quiet but, after the frantic rush to get there, my metabolism settled >down and I was able to relax and listen to the instrument properly. >The organ certainly sounded very fine and the nave section didn't stick = out >like a sore thumb in comparison to the main gallery organ. Unlike so many >Nave sections, which are virtually unusable with the main organ! >The organ sounded confident, focussed and, above all, with integrity = which >it never really had in living memory, due in no small part to the >magnificent new case which houses it. The new case extends to the back, >sides and top of the instrument which really projects the sound out into the >building. The organ was built by Nicholson & Co of Worcester and the >consultant was Nicholas Kynaston. The organ now consists of 56 speaking >stops, played from two 4 manual consoles. I have the specification if >anyone is interested. > >Another electronic toaster bites the dust! - HURRAH! > >Richard Scott-Copeland >Southampton >England >    
(back) Subject: Re: (No subject) From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:15:01 -0700   At 12:28 AM 7/22/1999 -0400, you wrote: >the CCM people want more and more and more and >ARE NOT SATISFIED until all traditional music is gone.<snip>   ....and, after awhile, the attendence goes down and down and down...   DeserTBoB