PipeChat Digest #903 - Tuesday, June 8, 1999
 
Peterson shade motors
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net>
Fw: Peterson shade motors
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Peterson shade motors
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Looking for music...
  by "Rod Murrow" <murrows@pldi.net>
Organ Concert.......done!
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: the incredible shrinking prelude
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Yanni music
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Yanni & Improvisation
  by <ProOrgo48@aol.com>
Re: Yanni & Improvisation
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Fw: another mystery machine
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Concert Announcement
  by <MWORGLBAU@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Peterson shade motors From: Tim Bovard <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 18:22:52 -0500   Greetings, All!   Our firm has used several of the new Peterson shade motors, and I have experienced the "whine" that the controllers can produce. (a high-pitched "NYEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" when the motor is actually in operation moving the shades)   There is a large inductor within the control module that is the source of the noise. It has been our experience that the problem is only present in SOME of the machines. (we once received two at one time -- one whined loudly, the other was perfectly silent) In any case, and to their credit, the Peterson company promptly shipped another control module to replace the noisy one. We ended up making a simple wooden muffler box for both of the control modules, anyway. (just in case...)   On a more personal note, my pet peeve with the devices is demonstrated with this question: "Do we REALLY need a computer to control a simple servo-motor?? (or vacuum cleaner, or dishwasher, or light bulb, or whatever)"   I do not mean to imply that computers are not useful devices, (I've actually grown rather fond of my PC...) I only question the practice of rearranging the most simple of tasks in order to make them "computer-controlled". (or "digital", or "hi-tech" -- pick your own adjective...) I do not know of ANY variation of pneumatic OR mechanical Swell mechanism that would be deranged by a nearby lightning strike, for instance...   Just MY two cents worth -- from one who would have to FIX the damn thing...   Tim Bovard, Technician Nichols & Simpson, Organbuilders Little Rock, AR            
(back) Subject: Fw: Peterson shade motors From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:16:21 -0500   I, for one, believe in origional technology. Many instruments play very nicely, thank you, with 1920's relays, swell shades, and windchests without the "aid" (?) of computerization. An origional installation need not be compromised by "new" gadgets -no matter how much one may think it helps or is necessary. Besides, keeping it origional maintains its' value.   Rick V.   -----Original Message----- From: Tim Bovard <tmbovard@arkansas.net> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Monday, June 07, 1999 6:36 PM Subject: Peterson shade motors     >Greetings, All! > >Our firm has used several of the new Peterson shade motors, and I have >experienced the "whine" that the controllers can produce. (a high-pitched >"NYEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" when the motor is actually in operation moving the shades) > >There is a large inductor within the control module that is the source of >the noise. It has been our experience that the problem is only present in >SOME of the machines. (we once received two at one time -- one whined >loudly, the other was perfectly silent) In any case, and to their credit, >the Peterson company promptly shipped another control module to replace the >noisy one. We ended up making a simple wooden muffler box for both of the >control modules, anyway. (just in case...) > >On a more personal note, my pet peeve with the devices is demonstrated with >this question: "Do we REALLY need a computer to control a simple >servo-motor?? (or vacuum cleaner, or dishwasher, or light bulb, or >whatever)" > >I do not mean to imply that computers are not useful devices, (I've >actually grown rather fond of my PC...) I only question the practice of >rearranging the most simple of tasks in order to make them >"computer-controlled". (or "digital", or "hi-tech" -- pick your own >adjective...) I do not know of ANY variation of pneumatic OR mechanical >Swell mechanism that would be deranged by a nearby lightning strike, for >instance... > >Just MY two cents worth -- from one who would have to FIX the damn thing... > >Tim Bovard, Technician >Nichols & Simpson, Organbuilders >Little Rock, AR > > > > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Peterson shade motors From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:38:56 -0400 (EDT)   Not a problem Richard....   Get inside the organ with some beeswax candle butts and lubricate the connections on the traces, and follow the path to the crashing things. It can be done easily and may prevent someone helpfully suggesting that you get an electrical digital motor, and/or organ.... ;-)   Bruce & the Baskerbeagles ~~+~~+~~ rohrschok8@webtv.net ~~+~~+~~   Barking dogs don't bite, but they themselves don't know it. -- Shalom Aleichem    
(back) Subject: Looking for music... From: Rod Murrow <murrows@pldi.net> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 20:59:51 -0500   I run a risk by sending this to three lists, but this will be the last triple listing for awhile.   I have received permission from Augsburg Fortress to make one personal copy of their organ publication "Preludes and Postludes, Volume 4" (publisher # 11-9323) - but, of course, I can only do this if I can find someone who will share their original copy with me.   I'll be happy to reimburse postage and packaging costs for anyone who can provide an original copy of the music for me - and will return it promptly.   If you're the person who can help, please reply privately.   Thanks, Rodney Murrow    
(back) Subject: Organ Concert.......done! From: Carlo Pietroniro <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 22:44:25 EDT   22h41 and I'm off to bed. The concert was great. The audience loved the Concerto Gregoriano and the 2nd Concert Study of Yon. Pedal glissandi are fun and audiences love watching stuff like that. My friend Rachel, who played the concert with me also had fun. I haven't seen her THIS enthusiastic about a concert in a very long time. Anyway, just to let you all know it went very well. Goodnight all.   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: the incredible shrinking prelude From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 23:45:20 -0400 (EDT)   Glad to hear it, Glenda. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Yanni music From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 23:57:02 -0400 (EDT)   Now there's a thread topic worth 2 weeks, don't you think? 8-) NOT I would have thought his music was entirely improvised, but perhaps it is published. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Yanni & Improvisation From: ProOrgo48@aol.com Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 00:29:35 EDT   I've watched a couple Yanni specials and own a video tape rendition of a concert.   How can one IMPROVISE with an entire orchestra playing from scores that have been worked out weeks (if not months) in advance? Well, of course, the composer (knowing his own music thoroughly) could improvise within a given framework for such a concert/or concert work.   But, his scores are published in thick volumes and sold commercially. It seems to take several years before each of these appear in print, but . . . they're worth waiting for, me thinks.   Has anyone of the LISTS seen Yanni in person?  
(back) Subject: Re: Yanni & Improvisation From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 00:34:13 -0400 (EDT)   I sit corrected, and you are right, I've seen the scores on those PBS specials, when they are trying to raise money (the only time they play musical shows-mind you, but that's another thread). --Neil    
(back) Subject: Fw: another mystery machine From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 23:58:46 -0500     -----Original Message----- From: VEAGUE +ADw-dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net+AD4- To: e-mail organ chat +ADw-pipechat+AEA-pipechat.org+AD4- Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 6:08 PM Subject: Fw: another mystery machine     +AD4-Hi List... I posted this a week or so ago, and found no responses. Any +AD4-feed-back on this? +AD4- +AD4------Original Message----- +AD4-From: VEAGUE +ADw-dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net+AD4- +AD4-To: e-mail organ chat +ADw-pipechat+AEA-pipechat.org+AD4- +AD4-Date: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 10:12 PM +AD4-Subject: another mystery machine +AD4- +AD4- +AD4APg-A fellow organ/ piano man was in my shop today helping me work on a DuoArt +AD4APg-upright- ca 1927. Anyhow, he mentioned an +ACI-organ+ACI- he saw years ago that was +AD4APg-the fore-runner of the Hammond. It was named the Chelso Celeste, made in +AD4APg-??Boston?? +AD4APg-It had Hammond-type tone wheels, but about eighteen to twenty inches in +AD4APg-diameter. The instrument (tone wheels) took up as much space in pipe +AD4-chambers, and had a +AD4APg-pneumatic harp, chimes, and swell shades. +AD4-The instrument was in a room downstairs and spoke thru a tone chute up to +AD4-the salon. +AD4APg-He cannot recall what type of amplification and speakers the thing had, but +AD4APg-it was installed in swell boxes, and used a Skinner console. +AD4APg- +AD4APg-Any input?? +AD4APg- +AD4APg-Rick V. +AD4APg- +AD4APg- +AD4APg- +AD4-      
(back) Subject: Concert Announcement From: MWORGLBAU@aol.com Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 02:32:37 EDT   Dear List members,   Mount Olive Lutheran Church of Santa Monica California is having their organ rededication concert this coming Sunday, June 13, 1999 at 3:00 PM. Organist Kristi Lobitz, Trumpeter David Seafoss, and Soprano Kathryn Skatula will perform. The Mount Olive organ originally was a Moller from 1968, and was severely damaged in the 1994 earthquake. Williamson-Warne & Associates was contracted to rebuild this instrument, which has included a new facade, new Great chests, addition of several new ranks, complete console overhaul, new expression boxes, and complete solid-state system for the organ. The church and us are quite proud of this instrument, and hope that members of these lists will be able to attend, and hear and see this instrument.   Mount Olive Lutheran Church is located at 1343 Ocean Park Blvd. in the city of Santa Monica. Hope to see some of you there!     Michael R. Williamson Williamson-Warne & Associates Hollywood Ca.