PipeChat Digest #905 - Wednesday, June 9, 1999
 
Re: Why does it sound different?
  by "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net>
Re: Organ Music of Rene Vierne
  by <DrCorgcomp@aol.com>
Re: Why does it sound different?
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: The Incredible Shrinking Prelude
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Re: Why does it sound different?
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Re: Why does it sound different?
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Re: response after Scripture / before sermon
  by <wmcree@InfoAve.Net>
9 JUNE Almanac (fwd)
  by "R A Campbell" <rcampbel@U.Arizona.EDU>
Fw: The Incredible Shrinking Prelude
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
miniature masterpieces (was:  incred. shr. pre.)
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: miniature masterpieces (was:  incred. shr. pre.)
  by "STRAIGHT" <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net>
Re: miniature masterpieces (was:  incred. shr. pre.)
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
Re: Why does it sound different?
  by "STRAIGHT" <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net>
Satan at the altar
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Why does it sound different?
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: Why does it sound different?
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: miniature masterpieces (was:  incred. shr. pre.)
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Need Kimball/Welte picture
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: miniature masterpieces (was:  incred. shr. pre.)
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
this 'n that...
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: Satan at the altar
  by "STRAIGHT" <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net>
Re: Why does it sound different?
  by "STRAIGHT" <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net>
Dogma vs. no Dogma
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Why does it sound different? From: Margo Dillard <dillardm@airmail.net> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 07:46:27 -0500   The change in sound affects digital organs, as well as pipe. In addition to the expected change between an empty room and a full Sunday morning service, the organ sometimes sounds different in an empty room. I have noticed that the pedal is louder or softer in relation to the rest of the instrument, but I have also noticed the overall volume of the instrument varies - and the balance between divisions changes. I'm not sure what causes this balance change between equal pitch levels in various divisions, unless it is speaker placement. All our speakers are in a 2 story chamber behind a screen at the front of the room. The great and pedal are in the lower chamber, placing them about 20 feet above floor level. The choir speakers are on shelves at the top of that chamber section. But the swell speakers and the speakers for the state trumpet are in the top floor of the chamber very close to the point of the ceiling of the room and probably 10-12 feet higher than the great and pedal. I guess this would confirm the idea that air temperature and humidity influence the sound, but it is interesting that just the difference in the layers of air temperature in a high peaked ceiling room would be enough notice. Have any of you experienced this with pipe organs where the divisions are stacked vertically? There would be much greater height variation between the top and bottom, but the sound is also not so directionally focused from one spot in the room like a set of speakers.   This is an interesting thread. I have frankly thought I was either nuts or my ears were stopped up on those days that the pedal just doesn't sound as loud, or where the great just seems softer in relation to the swell. At least, if we're crazy, it is a mass halucination...   Margo  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Music of Rene Vierne From: DrCorgcomp@aol.com Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:44:52 EDT   Scott - see my "Preludes and Postludes for Manuals" in 5 vols., pub. by CPH (Concordia) - there is one piece of Rene V. plus a host of = other little-known but attractive service music. Best,, CC  
(back) Subject: Re: Why does it sound different? From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 08:49:10 -0500   It also makes a difference how filled the pews are. The number of people will have a dramatic effect on the accoustics of a space.   John V      
(back) Subject: Re: The Incredible Shrinking Prelude From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:53:17 -0400 (EDT)   =A0 > The general lackadaisical (pardon spelling), > nonchalant, devil-may-care attitude toward > worship is totally anathema to scriptural > teaching, at least in my opinion it is. =A0 And it's not only to worship, but to all material aspects of the church. "It's material, it doesn't matter" they say as they randomly pile music stands, microphone stands, microphones, and the "mixer bus" into the sacristy willy nilly. "Nothing matters" is the anthem: psalm of the day???? why? this song is just as good! Sing the "Glory to God" in the summmer? Nah! we're tired of it! Not to mention tuning during the prayers, and beginning to take down equipment during the blessing!   Trying to cater to youth is rediculous. We don't know what they want... THEY don't even know what they want. Which is why it is better to teach them the traditional ways of the church, along with quality contemporary music and then WHEN(ever) they grow up, then they can make appropriate choices. But if we destroy most of the options simply to entertain them, we are eliminating the good choices from their path!   > Not to mention, baby boomers like things to > start on time, end on time, be relevant, > quality, and meaningful. =A0 Ugh! Makes me embarrassed to be (by no fault of my own) included amonst such a group!   Bruce & the Baskerbeagles ~~+~~+~~ rohrschok8@webtv.net ~~+~~+~~   Barking dogs don't bite, but they themselves don't know it. -- Shalom Aleichem    
(back) Subject: Re: Why does it sound different? From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:57:08 -0400 (EDT)     >Why does the same registration on the same > organ in the same sanctuary sound different > at different times of day, in fact different > days? Uh oh! Someone has a Moller!!! ;-)   Teehee! I know.... I know.... 'tis a Tschantz!=A0   >=A0 What I mean is this--certain voices speak > louder at different times than others. It is, indeed, the atmospheric conditions? The density of the air has a significant effect on the sound production and perception. I can recall practicing at night and hearing a distinct difference in the sound/acoustics at about 9 pm. For this reason I generally did not practice much before 9 pm. It is indeed fascinating!   Bruce & the Baskerbeagles ~~+~~+~~ rohrschok8@webtv.net ~~+~~+~~   Barking dogs don't bite, but they themselves don't know it. -- Shalom Aleichem    
(back) Subject: Re: Why does it sound different? From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:01:37 -0400 (EDT)   The ensemble sound changes somewhat because the density of the air causes a small change in the scaling perception of the pipe. When the air is less dense, the scale would broaden a bit due to more "freedom" of movement in the pipe (as it were 'splaint to me).   Bruce & the Baskerbeagles ~~+~~+~~ rohrschok8@webtv.net ~~+~~+~~   Barking dogs don't bite, but they themselves don't know it. -- Shalom Aleichem    
(back) Subject: Re: response after Scripture / before sermon From: wmcree@InfoAve.Net Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 09:29:34 -0400 (EDT)       Our organist-choirmaster does this at my church, Christ Episcopal Church, Greenville, SC.   Bill McRee    
(back) Subject: 9 JUNE Almanac (fwd) From: R A Campbell <rcampbel@U.Arizona.EDU> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 06:49:42 -0700 (MST)     AcoustiCDigest News - http://acousticd.com   9th...JUN Today the San Francisco Opera begins Wagner's "The Ring of the Nibelung" continuing through July 3rd.   1791 Birth of composer John PAYNE, lyricist of "The Maid of Milan" and "Home Sweet Home".   1810 Birth of German composer and conductor Carl Otto Ehrenfried NICOLAI in Konigsberg. d- 11 MAY 1849   1829 Birth of Italian composer Gaetano BRAGA   1865 Birth of French composer Lucien-Denis-Gabriel-Alberic MAGNARD, killed in WWI 3 SEP 1914   1865 Birth of American pianist and organist Clarence G. HAMILTON. Professor of music at Wellesley College.   1865 Birth of French composer Lucien-Denis-Gabriel-Alberic MAGNARD in Paris. Killed by German soldiers at his home in Baron, Oise 3 SEP 1914.   1865 Birth of Danish composer Carl NIELSEN in Norre-Lyndelse. Conductor of The Royal Danish Opera from 1908 to 1914, Director of Royal Conservatory, Copenhagen, 1915. d- 3 OCT 1931   1877 Birth of Italian baritone Titta RUFFO. d- 1953   1890 FP of operetta "Robin Hood" at grand opening of the Grand Opera House in Chicago. "Oh Promise Me" sung by Jessie Bartlett Davis.   1891 (1893?) Birth of American popular music composer Cole PORTER in Peru, IN. d- 1964   1900 Birth of American choral director and conductor Fred WARING in Tyrone PA. (The Pennsylvanians, Waring blender inventor).   1904 First concert performance by The London Symphony Orchestra, Hans Richter conducting.   1912 Birth of German composer Ingolf DAHL in Hamburg   1912 Birth of English tenor Edgar EVANS.   1927 Birth of Italian composer Franco DONATONI   1938 Birth of American composer, pianist and teacher Charles WUORINEN in NYC   1939 Birth of Roumanian soprano Ileana COTRUBAS   1948 Birth of American cellist Nathaniel ROSEN in Altadena CA   1949 Death of Rumanian-Austrian soprano Maria Cebotara in Vienna, age 39. b- 23 FEB 1910.     ______________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, write to AcoustiCDigest-unsubscribe@listbot.com Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/      
(back) Subject: Fw: The Incredible Shrinking Prelude From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:53:37 -0500   Unfortunately, todays' youth are a mixed-up lot. " WHY, WHEN *I* WAS A KID......". This post looks like a rock concert -in a "churchy" atmosphere.   Rick V.   -----Original Message----- From: bruce cornely <rohrschok8@webtv.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 7:55 AM Subject: Re: The Incredible Shrinking Prelude       > The general lackadaisical (pardon spelling), > nonchalant, devil-may-care attitude toward > worship is totally anathema to scriptural > teaching, at least in my opinion it is. And it's not only to worship, but to all material aspects of the church. "It's material, it doesn't matter" they say as they randomly pile music stands, microphone stands, microphones, and the "mixer bus" into the sacristy willy nilly. "Nothing matters" is the anthem: psalm of the day???? why? this song is just as good! Sing the "Glory to God" in the summmer? Nah! we're tired of it! Not to mention tuning during the prayers, and beginning to take down equipment during the blessing!   Trying to cater to youth is rediculous. We don't know what they want... THEY don't even know what they want. Which is why it is better to teach them the traditional ways of the church, along with quality contemporary music and then WHEN(ever) they grow up, then they can make appropriate choices. But if we destroy most of the options simply to entertain them, we are eliminating the good choices from their path!   > Not to mention, baby boomers like things to > start on time, end on time, be relevant, > quality, and meaningful. Ugh! Makes me embarrassed to be (by no fault of my own) included amonst such a group!   Bruce & the Baskerbeagles ~~+~~+~~ rohrschok8@webtv.net ~~+~~+~~   Barking dogs don't bite, but they themselves don't know it. -- Shalom Aleichem     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: miniature masterpieces (was: incred. shr. pre.) From: runyonr@muohio.edu (Randolph Runyon) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:25:07 -0500   Thanks to all who responded to my query concerning whether shortissimo preludes are becoming the norm anywhere else. I was pleased to see the thread develop into other areas I find of equally engaging interest, = namely interminable announcements and the (hoffentlich) decline of contemporary Christian garbage (sorry, I mean muse...ick). I've recently accepted a position at another church, where I'll get to play a wonderful 3-manual Schantz, where they'll pay me (slightly) more to do less (i.e., I won't be conducting the choir, though the choir that is there does wonderful music which I'm sure I'll enjoy accompanying), where they assure me they want me to do organ recitals, and where the only fly in the ointment is their practice of having no pre-service prelude at all and limiting the post-announcements prelude to 2 minutes. Since the pastor is not likely = to have a stopwatch on his person during the service, I suppose that means I can go up to 2 minutes and thirty seconds.   My new query is: besides the Orgelbuchlein, the 8 Little Preludes and Fugues (separately: P sans F, F sans P, given the time constraint), the Rheinberger Trios, and some of the briefer Pachelbel toccatas, preludes = and fugues, what else can you suggest in the way of ca. 2-minute miniatures that'll be worth playing?   R. Runyon      
(back) Subject: Re: miniature masterpieces (was: incred. shr. pre.) From: "STRAIGHT " <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:42:44 -0400   Most of the Lorenz pieces are timed, and about 1 to 3 minutes. They are also usually quite flexible. Diane    
(back) Subject: Re: miniature masterpieces (was: incred. shr. pre.) From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 08:46:39 -0700     > My new query is: besides the Orgelbuchlein, the 8 Little Preludes and > Fugues (separately: P sans F, F sans P, given the time constraint), the > Rheinberger Trios, and some of the briefer Pachelbel toccatas, preludes a= nd > fugues, what else can you suggest in the way of ca. 2-minute miniatures > that'll be worth playing? > Randy,   If you can stretch it to 2-1/2, sometimes 3 minutes, there are many nice things. Some of the hymn preludes of C. Hubert H. Parry, for example, many of the hymn preludes of Flor Peeters and Healey Willan, Psalm Improvisation= s by Douglas Wagner, a couple of the Dupr=E9 Antiphons, Max Reger's seven chorale preludes (organ miniatures), Louis Vierne's Communion from the Mess= e Basse and the Communion published in French Masterworks collection. I'm sur= e there are more, if you want I'll look a little later. Of course, by alterin= g the tempo very slightly (faster or slower) you can get them to fit this tim= e constraint.   Jason  
(back) Subject: Re: Why does it sound different? From: "STRAIGHT " <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:13:08 -0400   There sure is a difference. The one I play has 2 large pipe chambers, one over the other, and a high open ceiling. There's a big temperature difference from bottom to top, and it's much worse in the winter. Thermostat is at shoulder height. Somebody finally convinced them to install 6 big ceiling fans. Cut the heat bill by about a third. Tends to sound awful at first, but 2 hours later I'm playing what = sounds like an entirely different organ, after the shutters have been open and enough air has circulated to even out the temperature and humidity in the pipeworks. Less of a problem in summer. Diane (straight@infoblvd.net)    
(back) Subject: Satan at the altar From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:20:06 EDT   One bright, beautiful Sunday morning, everyone in tiny Jonestown wakes up early and goes to church. Before the service starts, the townspeople sit in their pews and talk about their lives, their families, etc.   Suddenly, at the altar, Satan appears! Everyone starts screaming and running for the front entrance, trampling each other in their determined efforts to get away from Evil Incarnate.   Soon, everyone has left the church except for one man, the organist, = who sits calmly at the console, seemingly oblivious to the fact that God's ultimate enemy is in his presence.   This confuses Satan a bit.   Satan says, "Hey, don't you know who I am?"   The man says, "Yes, I sure do."   Satan says, "Well, aren't you afraid of me?"   The organist says, "No, I am not!"   Satan, perturbed, says, "And why aren't you afraid of me?"   The organist says, "I've been married to your sister for 25 years."    
(back) Subject: Re: Why does it sound different? From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 09:39:36 -0700   Diane - if your shutters don't open automatically when the power's off, be = sure and leave the shoes open. You might also consider installing a quiet vent = fan (with the thermostat in the UPPER chamber) that circulates air from the = lower chamber into the upper chamber.   Cheers,   Bud   STRAIGHT wrote:   > There sure is a difference. The one I play has 2 large pipe chambers, = one > over the other, and a high open ceiling. There's a big temperature > difference from bottom to top, and it's much worse in the winter. > Thermostat is at shoulder height. Somebody finally convinced them to > install 6 big ceiling fans. Cut the heat bill by about a third. > Tends to sound awful at first, but 2 hours later I'm playing what = sounds > like an entirely different organ, after the shutters have been open and > enough air has circulated to even out the temperature and humidity in = the > pipeworks. Less of a problem in summer. > Diane > (straight@infoblvd.net) > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: Why does it sound different? From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 09:40:34 -0700   P.S. - Also check to see where the blower is getting its air ... should be ducted to draw air from the church and/or the chamber itself.   STRAIGHT wrote:   > There sure is a difference. The one I play has 2 large pipe chambers, = one > over the other, and a high open ceiling. There's a big temperature > difference from bottom to top, and it's much worse in the winter. > Thermostat is at shoulder height. Somebody finally convinced them to > install 6 big ceiling fans. Cut the heat bill by about a third. > Tends to sound awful at first, but 2 hours later I'm playing what = sounds > like an entirely different organ, after the shutters have been open and > enough air has circulated to even out the temperature and humidity in = the > pipeworks. Less of a problem in summer. > Diane > (straight@infoblvd.net) > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: miniature masterpieces (was: incred. shr. pre.) From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:57:15 EDT   In a message dated 6/9/99 10:23:53 AM Central Daylight Time, runyonr@muohio.edu writes:   << My new query is: besides the Orgelbuchlein, the 8 Little Preludes and Fugues (separately: P sans F, F sans P, given the time constraint), the Rheinberger Trios, and some of the briefer Pachelbel toccatas, preludes = and fugues, what else can you suggest in the way of ca. 2-minute miniatures that'll be worth playing? >>   Try some of these: Flor Peeters Hymn Preludes (Peters); Six Short Preludes =   and Postludes for Organ - by C.V. Stanford (Stainer & Bell); 80 Chorale Preludes - German Masters of the 17th and 18th Centuries (Peters #4448); = 36 Short Preludes and Postludes on Well-Known Hymn Tunes - by Healey Willan (Peters). Also you may wish to buy some volumes of "The Parish Organist" (Concordia) - The Parish Organist, a 12 volume set, is really some pretty easy / "no brainer" organ music but it does come in handy at times and = most of the works are two minutes or less in duration.   I hope this helps!   John  
(back) Subject: Need Kimball/Welte picture From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 13:25:10 -0500   Dear listers,   I need to give a presentation to our school board on progress on our theatre organ project. I would like to show them what the console will look like. Unfortunately = it is still in "kit" form. Allthough the organ is mostly Wurlitzer, that console is a 3 manual double bolster Kimball/Welte type. It has the "typewriter" buttons above the manuals.   I need a picture of one in its completed state, natural (mahogany) finish.   Does anyone have access to such a picture? If so, you can attach it to E-mail or let me know how I can obtain it.   Thanks in advance!   John V      
(back) Subject: Re: miniature masterpieces (was: incred. shr. pre.) From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 10:10:55 -0700   The Reger Chorale Preludes (Opus 67?) ... many one-page gems.   The two volumes of Rossini's Liturgical Organist marked "longer = compositions" (actually, they're not, by our standards) ... some interesting = transcriptions and pieces from Merkel and other forgotten 19th century German and Italian composers.   At the Console, The Organ in Church (I've worn out two or three copies of = each) .... some junk, some gems)   Franck's L'Organiste - get the two-volume "corrupt" version edited by Tournemire, published by Enoch (?)   The Langlais Harmonium books   Tournemire's Postludes Libres for harmonium - one-page things on the = Vesper Antiphons at the Magnificat   ANY of the 19th century French harmonium books ... Boellmann, Dubois, etc.   That Distler book for hausorgel that I can never remember the name of.   Many of the misc. Bach chorale-preludes in Vol. VI of the Widor-Schweitzer   Some of the manualiter versions in the Clavieruebung.   Movements of the chorale-partitas in The Church Organist's Golden = Treasury, Vols. I, II, III   The Climax (no kidding) Harmonium Albums from England ... published by = Paxton .... some interesting (and curious) things.   I'll look at church ... there's more.   Cheers,   Bud   Randolph Runyon wrote:   > Thanks to all who responded to my query concerning whether shortissimo > preludes are becoming the norm anywhere else. I was pleased to see the > thread develop into other areas I find of equally engaging interest, = namely > interminable announcements and the (hoffentlich) decline of contemporary > Christian garbage (sorry, I mean muse...ick). I've recently accepted a > position at another church, where I'll get to play a wonderful 3-manual > Schantz, where they'll pay me (slightly) more to do less (i.e., I won't = be > conducting the choir, though the choir that is there does wonderful = music > which I'm sure I'll enjoy accompanying), where they assure me they want = me > to do organ recitals, and where the only fly in the ointment is their > practice of having no pre-service prelude at all and limiting the > post-announcements prelude to 2 minutes. Since the pastor is not likely = to > have a stopwatch on his person during the service, I suppose that means = I > can go up to 2 minutes and thirty seconds. > > My new query is: besides the Orgelbuchlein, the 8 Little Preludes and > Fugues (separately: P sans F, F sans P, given the time constraint), the > Rheinberger Trios, and some of the briefer Pachelbel toccatas, preludes = and > fugues, what else can you suggest in the way of ca. 2-minute miniatures > that'll be worth playing? > > R. Runyon > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: this 'n that... From: Carlo Pietroniro <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 13:31:14 EDT   greetings fellow Johann Sebastians,   I haven't been posting much because I've been busy doing odd =   things around the house, playing weddings, giving lessons, and getting the =   kids ready for their graduation at the school I teach at. I've also been practicing a lot more since I've received a deluge of amazing organ music (from some of you kind people). As I've said, for those who are expecting music from me, please be patient.   Remember a while ago (May 12th) when I played the 1910 Casavant? The one that had no pedalboard? Well actually, it was at the = shop being repaired. Well, I was there this past Saturday, and the pedals have returned, not just repaired, but a brand new pedalboard! It looks the same =   and feels the same as the original one, but it's new. The cost: 12 = thousand dollars. YIKES! Casavant does very good work. So, I'll be taking more pictures and offering them to the list, as well as the pictures I took on May 12th (they're on the same roll).   I've been reading the threads over the past little while. = Lots about receiving communion, Roman Catholic funerals and new members. Concerning the latter: WELCOME! About the other two, if I don't find posts =   interesting, I don't contribute.   Anyway, I hope everyone's doing well. Up here in Montreal, = it's been 100000 degrees for the past week and it's driving me crazy. Today = it's pretty nice. It's about 28 degrees (celcius), with a humidex of about 50%, =   so it's endurable. Take care everyone and I'm looking forward to some = great postings.   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Satan at the altar From: "STRAIGHT " <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:36:44 -0400   I have this one oboe stop - guaranteed to drive him out of the place. Permanently out of tune with the entire rest of the instrument. My dog sounds better when you step on his foot. And they already "tuned" it! Diane S.    
(back) Subject: Re: Why does it sound different? From: "STRAIGHT " <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:49:41 -0400   Bud, This particular installation has the blower in the cellar. When the tech company did the survey, they said the only reason the organ is still functioning with 75 yr. old leathers is that the cellar air was apparently just slightly damp, but not enough to create mold bad enough to destroy them. The shutters have leather bellows, and close automatically when you = shut the power off. Would be a big job to change that setup, and it does keep out dust, mice, etc. Pretty clean in there. The other factor is that the cellar air is pretty consistent in temperature and moisture. There are no splits in the wood pipes, even the big ones. Just takes an hour for everything to even out and begin to = sound really nice. I go over hymns and such first, and go over my voluntaries, and then work out registration for them a little later. Diane - who didn't really want to wash dishes anyway    
(back) Subject: Dogma vs. no Dogma From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:58:01 EDT   Greeting fellow pipechatters,   This is way off topic -- but here it goes: I have been offered a high = paying job as office manager at a Unitarian Universalist church and I am the organist/choirmaster at a Lutheran church, my own faith is Anglican, my question is should I consider this position -- is it ethical? I'm having a =   hard time with their (UU) lack of a creed, dismissal of Jesus as just a Prophet, and their other nonconformist ideologies. Make no mistake I will =   not give up my job at the Lutheran church and I will NOT change my = religious affiliation, but I just wonder if this would 1) be a sin, or 2) look bad = on my resume.   Thanks for any thoughts/ideas/suggestions!   John