PipeChat Digest #908 - Thursday, June 10, 1999
 
Re: Why does it sound different?
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Why does it sound different?
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Satan at the altar
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Lorenz
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Re: Dogma vs. no Dogma
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Easy but sound good
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
I just realized today
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Why does it sound different?
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Why does it sound different?
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: Speaking of Lorenz Now AGO CONVENTIONS
  by <JKVDP@aol.com>
Re: Need Kimball/Welte picture
  by <DAJAMES@aol.com>
Re: Repertoire suggestions?
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
Re: Dogma vs. no Dogma
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: miniature masterpieces (was:  incred. shr. pre.)
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
Re: Dogma vs. no Dogma
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Why does it sound different?
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
Re: Dogma vs. no Dogma
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@MediaOne.net>
Re: Dogma vs. no Dogma
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
The Heavens Are Telling.............
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: I just realized today
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Why does it sound different?
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Why does it sound different? From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:56:04 -0400 (EDT)   See, Bruce, I'm not insane after all. I'm not troubled by this phenomenon, just puzzled and curious. I find the changes fascinating. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Why does it sound different? From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:57:19 -0400 (EDT)   I notice it most with the mixtures and mutations and higher pitched stops. But somedays, I can actually hear my pedal pipes, not just feel them. Truly remarkable. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Satan at the altar From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 01:02:01 -0400 (EDT)   Diane, throw on the leslie (tee hee); no one will ever notice. Or at least the tremulant. that will certainly fix it. 8-) --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Lorenz From: Noel Stoutenburg <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 23:58:04 -0500   Rod Murrow wrote, in part:   > Another of my peeves is that most of our music stores tend to stock > shelf after shelf of the Lorenz crap - and precious little else (where's > the stuff from Concordia, Augsburg,   Some music stores prefer not to carry titles from these because of the = mail order stores Augsburg and Concordia operate.   > Warner Bros., MorningStar, and the others?) - so of course, that's what > many people will buy. PLEASE encourage your music stores to carry good > music publishers!   The fact is, demand for these materials tends to be low these days.    
(back) Subject: Re: Dogma vs. no Dogma From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 01:07:19 -0400 (EDT)   John, I'm not sure it would look bad on your resume, but I wonder if you'll be comfortable in the position -- pay notwithstanding? The flip side of it is this: Could God be placing you there to make a difference in that Church? I don't want to lay that on you unnecessarily, but it's worth pondering. I could wax on and on, but I'm anxious to see what the other folks say. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Easy but sound good From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 01:08:40 EDT   Frank,   I would suggest the following to her (if she's not real big on pedal technique):   80 Chorale Preludes - German Masters of the 17th and 18th Centuries = (Peters #4448)   Ten Voluntaries - by William Boyce (E.C. Schirmer Co.)   24 Pieces en style libre - by Louis Vierne (Durand)   I hope this helps!   John        
(back) Subject: I just realized today From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 01:12:12 -0400 (EDT)   Completely off topic, but please indulge me this once. Here it is the 200th anniversary year of George Washington's death and the thought occurred to me today: Our 1st president could never tell a lie. Our present president can never tell the truth. Look how far we've come. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Why does it sound different? From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 01:19:29 -0400 (EDT)   That is truly fascinating about Gillou. Question: can he edit it, or does he play it perfectly the first time? ---Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Why does it sound different? From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 01:26:25 EDT   I wondered the same about Gillou myself.... -roc  
(back) Subject: Re: Speaking of Lorenz Now AGO CONVENTIONS From: JKVDP@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 01:26:07 EDT   I'm just wondering how many regional AGO conventions have reading sessions =   for church organists to show what good but modest repertoire has recently been issued?   I suspect that most conventions do a good job with the sophisticated great =   stuff, but little is done for the average organist.   Jerry in Seattle  
(back) Subject: Re: Need Kimball/Welte picture From: DAJAMES@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 01:28:48 EDT   I have a picture of the Kimball 3 manual console at Cleveland High School here in Portland, OR that I could send you, IF you can use it with white finish. The photo is part of the program we used for the 1995 ATOS = regional convention. Let me know if you want it. Don James  
(back) Subject: Re: Repertoire suggestions? From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 22:28:58 -0700     > Psalm 19 by I forget who.   by Benedetto Marcello  
(back) Subject: Re: Dogma vs. no Dogma From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 01:31:43 EDT   In a message dated 6/9/99 1:45:04 PM Central Daylight Time, rohrschok8@webtv.net writes:   << You omitted the most important part!! What kind of organ do they = have and do you have practice privileges?? >>   No Bruce, they have a circa 1860 tracker (of unkown origin) in storage (4 ranks, in bits and pieces) and they currently only have a concert grand = piano in the church (they did have an old Gulbransen theatrete (sp?) but the minister sold it in a church-wide garage sale). However, they did offer me =   the right of second refusal for weddings... I guess funerals are out since =   they don't advocate them :-( ...... geeez, I guess it's a good thing that = I didn't tell them that just a few years ago I was a licensed funeral director/embalmer!   <<Good grief man! Take the job. If you worked for the US government you'd be working for a "company" that believes in nothing, has no morals, and the boss fools around with anything that can't run faster than he.>>   You have a point there... but I'm not one to cast stones (at least = regarding Slick Willie) :-)   John    
(back) Subject: Re: miniature masterpieces (was: incred. shr. pre.) From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 22:30:55 -0700   I must have missed something ... I thought the request was for preludes of about 2 minutes ... many of these are MUCH longer than that. > >>But Bruce, give him some concrete examples >> of what those preludes are! Your homily by >>itself is no help! > Examples from literature were included in the first response.... > > Short preludes, other than excerpts from literature include: > Elegy.... George Thalben-Ball > Folk Song.... Charles Callahan > Aria... Charles Callahan > Aria... Flor Peeters > 29 Interludes... Carl Nielsen > Reflection... Frank Asper > Solemn Melody... Henry Walford Davies > Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring... JS Bach > Sheep May Safely Graze... JS Bach > preludes & fugues... Vincent Lubeck > sonatas (slow mvmnts)... Josef Rheinberger > sonatas (excerpts, slow mvmnts).. Hindemith > Three pieces... Nicholas Choveaux > Six pieces.... Hermann Schroeder > Pieces for Paschal Time (chant) Chas Callahan > Three Pieces... Alec Rowley > Liturgical Improvisations... George Oldroyd > Fugal Trilogy... Healey Willan > Six Pieces... Ernst Bloc > Old English Voluntaries ... various (Oxford) > Tallis to Wesley... (Oxford) > Priere a Notre Dame... Boellmann > Mass for the Parishes/Convents.. Couperin > Little Organ Book... Dandrieu/Clerambault > ... just off the top of my head! ;-) > > Bruce & the Baskerbeagles > ~~+~~+~~ rohrschok8@webtv.net ~~+~~+~~ > > Barking dogs don't bite, but they themselves don't know it. -- Shalom > Aleichem > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >  
(back) Subject: Re: Dogma vs. no Dogma From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 01:35:58 EDT   In a message dated 6/9/99 1:55:10 PM Central Daylight Time, rohrschok8@webtv.net writes:   << actually, if you look carefully, you'll probably find that the = Unitarian beliefs are not as radical as you presently think. From what I've seen they are more perceptual differences. >>   Hmmm, I'm not so sure about that..... but regardless of my theological standing I think I'll take the job just for the bucks... I guess I'm just = a whore and don't even know it!   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Why does it sound different? From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 22:34:57 -0700   I just bought a CD of his at St. Eustache to hear the organ ... boy, I can't stand his interpretations. I'll finish listening to it tomorrow, but don't suspect my opinion will change.   Jason   > That is truly fascinating about Gillou. Question: can he edit it, or > does he play it perfectly the first time? ---Neil > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >  
(back) Subject: Re: Dogma vs. no Dogma From: Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@MediaOne.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 01:56:20 -0400       DRAWKNOB@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 6/9/99 1:55:10 PM Central Daylight Time, > rohrschok8@webtv.net writes: > > << actually, if you look carefully, you'll probably find that the = Unitarian > beliefs are not as radical as you presently think. From what I've = seen > they are more perceptual differences. >> > > Hmmm, I'm not so sure about that..... but regardless of my theological > standing I think I'll take the job just for the bucks... I guess I'm = just a > whore and don't even know it! >   Ah! ...But with a heart of gold!   Stan  
(back) Subject: Re: Dogma vs. no Dogma From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 01:58:10 EDT   In a message dated 6/10/99 12:16:20 AM Central Daylight Time, Innkawgneeto@webtv.net writes:   << John, I'm not sure it would look bad on your resume, but I wonder if you'll be comfortable in the position -- pay notwithstanding? The flip side of it is this: Could God be placing you there to make a difference in that Church? I don't want to lay that on you unnecessarily, but it's worth pondering. I could wax on and on, but I'm anxious to see what the other folks say. >>   Neil,   I guess one could take the viewpoint that this would be an opportune = position to evangelize... I'm not so sure if I'm comfortable with that thought; however, it does raise some interesting ideas. I guess constant prayer = may be the only answer in this situation. Mind you -- I'm NOT a Saint, nor = have I ever claimed to be, but this situation really sorta rocks my world. At this point I'm leaning towards going for it and if the job proves to be = too much for me to handle/accept/deal with I can always bow out and move = onward.   John            
(back) Subject: The Heavens Are Telling............. From: Carlo Pietroniro <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 02:00:47 EDT     "The Heavens Are Telling", better known as "Psalm XIX", by the italian composer Benedetto Marcello. It's out there, in several different books, = one of them being "The Diane Bish Wedding Book".   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: I just realized today From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 02:02:38 EDT   In a message dated 6/10/99 12:21:48 AM Central Daylight Time, Innkawgneeto@webtv.net writes:   << Completely off topic, but please indulge me this once. Here it is the 200th anniversary year of George Washington's death and the thought occurred to me today: Our 1st president could never tell a lie. Our present president can never tell the truth. Look how far we've come. --Neil >>   Neil,   It's called PROGRESS!!! (or at least that's what the Liberals would have = us thiink!) Just kidding :-)   John   P.S. On that note I'll go play "Tie the Yellow Ribbon 'round the old = CHERRY tree"... LOL  
(back) Subject: Re: Why does it sound different? From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 02:04:24 EDT   In a message dated 6/10/99 12:23:56 AM Central Daylight Time, Innkawgneeto@webtv.net writes:   << That is truly fascinating about Gillou. Question: can he edit it, or does he play it perfectly the first time? >>   GREAT question!   John