PipeChat Digest #915 - Saturday, June 12, 1999
 
Re: AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  by "Mark Checkley" <xcs53@dial.pipex.com>
Fw: AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Quoting
  by "ADMINISTRATION" <admin@pipechat.org>
AGO Region I convention
  by "W. Scarboro" <scarboro@digital.net>
Re: AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
AGO Region I convention
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
1940 Hymnal
  by "Barry Norris" <the1220chambers@yahoo.com>
Re: Library of Congress files
  by "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com>
Re: miniature masterpieces (was:  incred. shr. pre.)
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Re: 1940 Hymnal
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Re: 1940 Hymnal
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com>
Re: 1940 Hymnal
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
Re: home town preaching
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Bigoted nonconformists
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Fw: Bigoted nonconformists
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: [Fwd: UU Church]
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Fw: Fw: Bigoted nonconformists
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: AGO Region I convention
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: 1940 Hymnal
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: [Fwd: UU Church]
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: Fw: Fw: Bigoted nonconformists
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Scripture in and out of context
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: [Fwd: UU Church]
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: [Fwd: UU Church]
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From: "Mark Checkley" <xcs53@dial.pipex.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 18:07:44 +0100   Very sensible specification for a two manual chamber Organ.   Perfectly possible to play a small-scale "village church" Evensong on that, and some "serious" voluntaries as well (although you would probably want to stick to the baroque, but it would take a "big" Bach Prelude and Fugue very nicely)   HOWEVER, big organ, small organ, it's no good if the thing is in such a state of disrepair that you've got missing notes and cyphers all over the place.   Regards, Mark Checkley.   -----Original Message----- From: Richard Pinel <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Saturday, June 12, 1999 04:23 Subject: Re: AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!     >The stoplist is as follows (the stop knobs are above the swell): >From left to right: >Great to Pedals (it does say "Pedals" on this one, but not on the Swell >coupler) >Swell to Pedal (not needed if you draw Great to Pedal and Swell to Great >together!) >Swell to Great > Great Stops: >Open Diapason 8' >Mixture 2rnks >Gemshorn 4' (they are in that order) > Swell Stops: >Stopped Diapason 8' >Fifteenth 2' >Gedack 4' (again, they are in that order) > >Tremulant (which affects the entire organ, and shakes the whole thing nearly >to pieces!) > Pedal Stop: >16' Bourdon > > >The reason I say that it is a mess, is because there is usually something >ciphering (last sevice there, the organist had to take out 8 pipes during >the service), the sound is quite nice, but it is second hand and was = never >voiced for this church. It is in totally the wrong place to accompany the >choir, and my organ teacher hates doing services at the church! > >The music is: >Voluntary: Voluntary 1 - Stanley/James >Introit: If ye love me - Tallis >Canticles: Purcell in Gm >Anthem: O Sing Joyfully - I can't remember >Voluntary: Fanfare - Leighton (which is what I put down before I realised >that it was at St P's - my organ teacher says that he wants to improvise >something now). > >Richard. > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Fw: AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 13:08:43 -0500   Wouldn't it be nice to dismantle the instrument, bring it to my shop, and restore it?   Rick V. www.svs.net/Dutch     -----Original Message----- From: Mark Checkley <xcs53@dial.pipex.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Saturday, June 12, 1999 12:40 PM Subject: Re: AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!     >Very sensible specification for a two >manual chamber Organ. > >Perfectly possible to play a small-scale >"village church" Evensong on that, and >some "serious" voluntaries as well (although >you would probably want to stick to >the baroque, but it would take a "big" >Bach Prelude and Fugue very nicely) > >HOWEVER, big organ, small organ, >it's no good if the thing is in such a >state of disrepair that you've got >missing notes and cyphers all over >the place. > >Regards, >Mark Checkley. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Richard Pinel <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> >To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Date: Saturday, June 12, 1999 04:23 >Subject: Re: AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > >>The stoplist is as follows (the stop knobs are above the swell): >>From left to right: >>Great to Pedals (it does say "Pedals" on this one, but not on the Swell >>coupler) >>Swell to Pedal (not needed if you draw Great to Pedal and Swell to Great >>together!) >>Swell to Great >> Great Stops: >>Open Diapason 8' >>Mixture 2rnks >>Gemshorn 4' (they are in that order) >> Swell Stops: >>Stopped Diapason 8' >>Fifteenth 2' >>Gedack 4' (again, they are in that order) >> >>Tremulant (which affects the entire organ, and shakes the whole thing >nearly >>to pieces!) >> Pedal Stop: >>16' Bourdon >> >> >>The reason I say that it is a mess, is because there is usually = something >>ciphering (last sevice there, the organist had to take out 8 pipes = during >>the service), the sound is quite nice, but it is second hand and was = never >>voiced for this church. It is in totally the wrong place to accompany = the >>choir, and my organ teacher hates doing services at the church! >> >>The music is: >>Voluntary: Voluntary 1 - Stanley/James >>Introit: If ye love me - Tallis >>Canticles: Purcell in Gm >>Anthem: O Sing Joyfully - I can't remember >>Voluntary: Fanfare - Leighton (which is what I put down before I = realised >>that it was at St P's - my organ teacher says that he wants to improvise >>something now). >> >>Richard. >> >> >> >>"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >>PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >>HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >>List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >>Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 14:18:05 -0400 (EDT)   Great: Open Diapason 8 Dulciana 8 Principal 4   Swell: Stopped Diapason 8 Salicional 8 Flute 4   Pedal: Bourdon 16 My imagination tells me that the above is close to the original spec. Too bad that the great neobaroque revisionist, Heeza Hacque, has done his nastiness on this former gem of an organ. I would much rather play the above spec than the "improved". I understand your consternation, especially when it is plagued with cyphers. Too bad money was not spent refurbishing the action rather than replacing stops. If Heeza want to retire among friends, tell him to buy a condo in Florida; he would be in great company.   Bruce & the Baskerbeagles ~~+~~+~~ rohrschok8@webtv.net ~~+~~+~~   Barking dogs don't bite, but they themselves don't know it. -- Shalom Aleichem    
(back) Subject: Quoting From: ADMINISTRATION <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 13:17:53 -0500   Folks   There have been several comments about log quoting in tosay's mail and = both sides have good points. I am not about to lay down strick rules about it but you might look when you are doing a reply and maybe delete some of the original posting if it doesn't have anything to do with your response. = But just don't do a complete delete - there are times when that happens that I have a hard time figuring out what the response is in regard to.   You might, however, try to delete the headers and the footers from the original post - there really isn't any reason for 3 or 4 PipeChat footers with more being added on all the time. And for those that receive the = list as a digest it really does clutter up the digest.   Hope you al are having good summers   David   ******************************** David Scribner Co-Owner - Technical Administratior PipeChat   850-478-9635 mailto:david@blackiris.com      
(back) Subject: AGO Region I convention From: "W. Scarboro" <scarboro@digital.net> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 15:40:07 -0400     I was just wondering how many of my fellow list members are going to be = at the AGO Convention in Worcester? I'll be there and I'm looking forward to =   the events with great anticipation. It is rather ironic though: In the winter a lot of "snowbird's" come down here from New Jersey, New York, and =   New England, and now a "sunbird" like myself is flying north for a week!   Anyway let me know if any of you are planning to attend the convention = and maybe we can get together sometime. Thanks and I'll see y'all in a few weeks!   Sincerely,   Will "Sunny" Scarboro *********************************** Will "Sunny" Scarboro, Organ Historian American Municipal Pipe Organ Research Project Organist, Pineda Presbyterian-Melbourne, FL USA (for one more week) :-( 1996 OHS E. Power Biggs Fellow ***********************************    
(back) Subject: Re: AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 13:05:17 -0700   That is the EXACT spec of the tubular pneumatic Estey (Model L?) that I = grew up on (grin).   Cheers,   Bud   bruce cornely wrote:   > Great: > Open Diapason 8 > Dulciana 8 > Principal 4 > > Swell: > Stopped Diapason 8 > Salicional 8 > Flute 4 > > Pedal: > Bourdon 16 > > My imagination tells me that the above is close to the original spec. > Too bad that the great neobaroque revisionist, Heeza Hacque, has done > his nastiness on this former gem of an organ. I would much rather > play the above spec than the "improved". I understand your > consternation, especially when it is plagued with cyphers. Too bad > money was not spent refurbishing the action rather than replacing stops. > If Heeza want to retire among friends, tell him to buy a condo in > Florida; he would be in great company. > > Bruce & the Baskerbeagles > ~~+~~+~~ rohrschok8@webtv.net ~~+~~+~~ > > Barking dogs don't bite, but they themselves don't know it. -- Shalom > Aleichem > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: AGO Region I convention From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 18:19:28 -0400   Hi Will and others, you will be right at home here in Worcester, it is pretty warm and humid, and we have had no rain for 5 weeks!  
(back) Subject: 1940 Hymnal From: Barry Norris <the1220chambers@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 16:40:22 -0700 (PDT)   Does anyone know where I might find a copy of the Organist's Edition of the 1940 Episcopal Hymnal? I occasionally find myself subbing in a "traditional" Anglican parish and would appreciate having my own copy of that hymnal.   Thank you for any leads.   Barry Norris   _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Library of Congress files From: Adrianne Schutt <maybe@pipcom.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 20:31:52 -0700   At 07:43 AM 6/12/99 -0500, John L. Speller wrote: >I have had the reverse problem -- when I try and print out sheets from >this webpage it comes out so big I only get about 1/4 of the page onto >the sheet. I do not seem to have this trouble with other websites and >wonder if there is something about the LC site I don't understand. Check the resolution settings for the image you're working with and your printer. I'm betting you're used to printing out website graphics formatted at 72-100 dots per inch ("standard" rates vary). How exactly to check or change these settings will vary from program to program, sorry I can't be more specific (no clue what software you're using). If your printer thinks you want it to do 72dpi and the LC "real scans" = are formatted for 300dpi (standard for "normal" printing in most = applications), those extra 228dpi have to go somewhere. What happens is you wind up with a printout ~4x the size of what you were expecting. Hope this helps!   Have fun! Ad ;->    
(back) Subject: Re: miniature masterpieces (was: incred. shr. pre.) From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:21:12 -0400 (EDT)   I erroneously posted Flor Peeters as composer for Chant de Mai and Chorale, both of which are the handiwork of Joseph Jongen. The Chorale is "edited" to about 2 min by cutting at m. 34, holding the chord on the manuals through beat 4, and the pedal note (A) or move down to F# for beats 3 & 4, then continuing to m. 54. When I do this I play the concluding 5 measures and octave lower in the treble clef. Chant de Mai condenses by omitting from m. 35 to m. 138 through to the end. There are other possibilities of section soldering to come up with a shorter piece, although Chant de Mail is so beautiful I don't like to cut it. Number I of Frederick Delius' Two Aquarelles is also within the 2 minute range if played just a little faster than Delius might want.   I played two weddings today, both giving opportunity for long preludes. The first was at Holy Faith (2/21 Moller '82): Canon -- Pachelbel Choral -- Jongen Folktune -- Callahan Aquarelle I -- Delius Reflection -- Asper Chant San Paroles -- Callahan   Procession in: Trumpet Tune -- Purcell Procession out: Trumpet Voluntary -- Purcell   Postlude: Tuba Tune -- Lang   The second was at First Methodist (3/38 Moller '79) Prelude & Fugue in G -- Mendelssohn Chant de Mai -- Jongen Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring -- Bach Serenade (from Hassan) -- Delius Fountain Reverie -- Fletcher Sheep May Safely Graze -- Bach Aquarelle I -- Delius Folktune -- Callahan   Procession in/out: Wagner/Mendelssohn (them!)   Postlude: Trumpet Voluntary in D -- Stanley   Bruce & the Baskerbeagles ~~+~~+~~ rohrschok8@webtv.net ~~+~~+~~   Barking dogs don't bite, but they themselves don't know it. -- Shalom Aleichem    
(back) Subject: Re: 1940 Hymnal From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:28:23 -0400 (EDT)     >Does anyone know where I might find a copy > of the Organist's Edition of the 1940 > Episcopal Hymnal? The beauty (one of several actually!) is that any full harmony edition of the H1940 is an organist's edition. They were kind enough not to require us to lug around two volumes. There are also a couple of supplements to the H1940, but I don't recall ever being in a church that used them. You should not have much difficulty finding a H-1940. There was a spiral bound edition, but I found it awkward and clumbsy to use.   Bruce & the Baskerbeagles ~~+~~+~~ rohrschok8@webtv.net ~~+~~+~~   Barking dogs don't bite, but they themselves don't know it. -- Shalom Aleichem    
(back) Subject: Re: 1940 Hymnal From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@access.aic-fl.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 20:36:44 -0500   I was just thinking of posing that same question - my 1940 accompaniment edition is sorely ragged, and if there is a possibility of obtaining another in good condition I too am interested.   Thanks,   Glenda Sutton   ---------- > From: Barry Norris <the1220chambers@yahoo.com>   > Does anyone know where I might find a copy of the Organist's Edition of > the 1940 Episcopal Hymnal? I occasionally find myself subbing in a > "traditional" Anglican parish and would appreciate having my own copy > of that hymnal.    
(back) Subject: Re: 1940 Hymnal From: DudelK@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:48:55 EDT   In a message dated 99-06-12 19:39:42 EDT, you write:   << Does anyone know where I might find a copy of the Organist's Edition of the 1940 Episcopal Hymnal? I occasionally find myself subbing in a "traditional" Anglican parish and would appreciate having my own copy of that hymnal. >> There should be tons of copies of the venerable 1940 around.   I have one of those wonderful HP all-in-one copier/scanner/printer = machines, so I either copy the hymns on single sheets at larger size or scan them = and print them out as large as possible on an 8-1/2 x 11 sheet. It's great for =   aging eyes, even with progressive lenses, and also a lot less hassle than dealing with multiple books on the music rack.   Lots of parishes where I sub have folders with all the service music = copied on single sheets or else a notebook with everything in place. Sometimes I just copy everything for the day -- hymns, voluntaries, etc. and put it in = a small 3-ring binder. It makes it all a lot easier than schlepping books = and hymnals and such.    
(back) Subject: Re: home town preaching From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:36:42 -0400 (EDT)   Don't worry, Stan, I didn't. LOL --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:40:22 -0400 (EDT)   If it cyphers when you turn it on tomorrow, put everything on and play a couple huge, loud chords to see if you can blow any dust out of it. IF that doesn't work, transpose everything into the key of the cypher 8-). --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Bigoted nonconformists From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:49:35 -0400 (EDT)   Excuse me, I thought the "frozen chosen" were the Presbyterials? Anyway, I don't think it's appropriate to denomination bash. I've worked in a few and they all have their good points and points that need LOTS of prayer. Happy Sunday every1. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Bigoted nonconformists From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:54:07 -0400 (EDT)   Many of the answerers have never read the entire Bible they portend to uphold (I hope that clause made sense). I also am conservative theologically, but that is because I have wrestled with the questions and chose those answers for myself, not because they were spoon fed to me. I went to a seminary that taught us to ask the right questions -- not necessarily spew forth the right answers. God is good--I wish folks everywhere could understand the profound truth in such a little 3-word statement. I wish God's goodness on you all. I shall now descend from my soapbox. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: [Fwd: UU Church] From: Roy Redman <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:53:11 -0500   In addition to the UU Church website: If you search for Albert Schweitzer = + unitarian, you will get, among others; www.uga edu/~uuyan/famous html = and uuch.hiwaay.net/newsite/uu_history.html. It is my understanding that the documentation for this is that Schweitzer joined our Church of the Larger Fellowship, which is a membership category for those who do not have a = local UU Church. Roy Redman   Alan Freed wrote:   > Roy: > > Thanks immensely. I will indeed check out your website in a day or two, = and > appreciate the bibliography. Lest I be misunderstood, I was in no way > doubting the antiquity of unitarianism. It was only the Schweitzer = angle > that gave me pause. But in any case, I'll check out these clues, and > probably get back to you! > > Thanks again. > > Alan > > ---------- > >From: Roy Redman <rredman@imagin.net> > >To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > >Subject: Re: [Fwd: UU Church] > >Date: Sat, Jun 12, 1999, 12:07 AM > > > > > Since this REALLY off topic, may I refer you to A History of > > Christianity of Latourette; The UU Pocket Guide by Scholefield = (Beacon > Press) > > or your encycolpedia. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Fw: Fw: Bigoted nonconformists From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:03:52 -0500   When the "answerers" DO give you answers, they usually twist or take = verses out of context to make their point. Onanism is a good example.   Rick V.   -----Original Message----- From: N Brown <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Saturday, June 12, 1999 9:56 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Bigoted nonconformists     Many of the answerers have never read the entire Bible they portend to uphold (I hope that clause made sense). I also am conservative theologically, but that is because I have wrestled with the questions and chose those answers for myself, not because they were spoon fed to me. I went to a seminary that taught us to ask the right questions -- not necessarily spew forth the right answers. God is good--I wish folks everywhere could understand the profound truth in such a little 3-word statement. I wish God's goodness on you all. I shall now descend from my soapbox. --Neil     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: AGO Region I convention From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 23:04:43 -0400 (EDT)   Mr. Sunny Scarboro, I'll be there (albeit nostalgically-- I grew up in the Worc area, haven't been back, really, for almost 20 years). See ya there. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: 1940 Hymnal From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 20:01:04 -0700   There was a great dust-up awhile ago ... supposedly Church Pension Fund = was going to take the 1940 out of circulation and lock up all the copyrights = so us traditional Anglicans couldn't use it. That turned out to be a false rumor. Besides, there are still EPISCOPAL churches who use it because the either don't like the new book and/or can't afford it.   The 1940 is being reprinted by a traditionalist press, but I don't know = about the organist's edition ... you might have to make your own with a comb binder. Eventually I'm going to blow up the whole business (or at least = the parts we use) to 8 1/2 x 11 and bind it into volumes ... I'm getting to = the point where I have a hard time reading it, even with my computer/organ glasses.   I'll ask at church tomorrow and see what I can find out.   Cheers,   Bud   Glenda wrote:   > I was just thinking of posing that same question - my 1940 accompaniment > edition is sorely ragged, and if there is a possibility of obtaining > another in good condition I too am interested. > > Thanks, > > Glenda Sutton > > ---------- > > From: Barry Norris <the1220chambers@yahoo.com> > > > Does anyone know where I might find a copy of the Organist's Edition = of > > the 1940 Episcopal Hymnal? I occasionally find myself subbing in a > > "traditional" Anglican parish and would appreciate having my own copy > > of that hymnal. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: [Fwd: UU Church] From: Roy Redman <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:09:36 -0500   I suppose you are acquainted with Schweitzer's book Quest of the = Historical Jesus. Jane Marshall set the closing paragraph as an anthem. This was to fulfill a commission for a Baptist festival piece, and it was rejected = because of the theology. Upon which Jane appended the morning star chorale, and = the piece was accepted. This is even more curious since the Baptists also had = roots in the anti-trinitarian movement. Very few of them seem willing to even = discuss it today. Jane's anthem is a fine piece, and we make great use of it = (without the morning star chorale appended). Look it up if you do not know it = already. Roy Red man   Alan Freed wrote:   > Roy: > > Thanks immensely. I will indeed check out your website in a day or two, = and > appreciate the bibliography. Lest I be misunderstood, I was in no way > doubting the antiquity of unitarianism. It was only the Schweitzer = angle > that gave me pause. But in any case, I'll check out these clues, and > probably get back to you! > > Thanks again. > > Alan > > ---------- > >From: Roy Redman <rredman@imagin.net> > >To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > >Subject: Re: [Fwd: UU Church] > >Date: Sat, Jun 12, 1999, 12:07 AM > > > > > Since this REALLY off topic, may I refer you to A History of > > Christianity of Latourette; The UU Pocket Guide by Scholefield = (Beacon > Press) > > or your encycolpedia. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: Bigoted nonconformists From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 23:11:55 -0400 (EDT)   Rick, could you email me privately and tell me what Onanism is. I haven't heard that term before. Thanks, Neil    
(back) Subject: Scripture in and out of context From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 20:08:51 -0700   One of the most cogent comments I've heard recently came from a very astute RC Scripture scholar: "You can't prove 'sola Scriptura' from Holy Scripture. You just can't get there from there."   If you could, there wouldn't be that passage about "there are many other things not written in this book" ... too tired to look up the exact citation.   And if you can't, then it ain't.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: [Fwd: UU Church] From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 23:15:12 -0400 (EDT)   Roy, you refer to "He Comes to Us," by Jane Marshall, no? Yes, it is a nice piece. --Neil My Baptist history recollections do not support your comment that Baptists came out of anti-trinitarian roots.    
(back) Subject: Re: [Fwd: UU Church] From: Roy Redman <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:49:58 -0500   I suppose we all read history the way we want to hear it, but do see Latourette and other sources. I do remember that when we were attending the Baptist Church during my childhood, some regarded the doctrine of the trinity as "Popeish". It was rejected along with the RC creeds which contained the doctrine. Roy Redman   N Brown wrote:   > Roy, you refer to "He Comes to Us," by Jane Marshall, no? Yes, it is > a nice piece. --Neil > My Baptist history recollections do not support your comment that > Baptists came out of anti-trinitarian roots. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org