PipeChat Digest #925 - Thursday, June 17, 1999
 
Re: Drinking and driving the organ
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Pipes & Pizazz
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Frozen Chosen" vs. "Happy Clappy
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Re: Salve Mater misericordia in English
  by "Mark Checkley" <xcs53@dial.pipex.com>
Re: Drinking and driving the organ
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
Off Topic - Houston
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Fw: Drinking and driving the organ
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Drinking and driving the organ
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
Fw: Drinking and driving the organ
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Drinking and driving the organ
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
Re: Fw: Drinking and driving the organ
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Fw: Fw: Drinking and driving the organ
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Fw: Drinking and driving the organ
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Drinking and driving the organ
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Drinking and driving the organ
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
Re: Few!
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Few!
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Drinking and driving the organ
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: Drinking and driving the organ
  by "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net>
1998 Ten Top Hymns
  by <ProOrgo48@aol.com>
Re: 1998 Ten Top Hymns
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: 1998 Ten Top Hymns
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: 1998 Ten Top Hymns
  by "Rod Murrow" <murrows@pldi.net>
Re: 1998 Ten Top Hymns
  by <ProOrgo48@aol.com>
RE: request for hymn tabulation
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Hyfrydol
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: 1998 Ten Top Hymns
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: 1998 Ten Top Hymns
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Hyfrydol
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: 1998 Ten Top Hymns
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Hyfrydol
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: 1998 Ten Top Hymns
  by "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Re: request for hymn tabulation
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: 1998 Ten Top Hymns
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Drinking and driving the organ From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:32:33 -0500 (CDT)   At 12:08 AM 6/16/99 -0400, you wrote: > >Perhaps others saw the article about the rebuilt Hill/George Sisxmith >organ in St. Paul's at Newcastle-under-Lyme that, among several other >curious things, has a stop called Tibia Liquida. To quote the article: >"Draw the [stop] and a miniature cocktail cabinet is revealed, complete >with essentials!" A picture shows two glasses and 6 small bottles. = Hmmm. > > The article was in the March '96 _Choir and Organ_. Yeah, O.K.; >it takes a warped mind like mine to save such an article!! :-)   The Austrian organbuilder Rieger also included a number of these in their instruments, controlled by a knob marked "Rausch" -- which as well as = being part of stop names like Rauschquint, Rauschpfeife, etc., also means = "alcohol"!   John Speller    
(back) Subject: Pipes & Pizazz From: KriderSM@aol.com Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:21:56 EDT   John Vanderlee reports that his Pipes & Pizazz program is on channel 91.3 FM... Darn, that is the same frequency as WOUB FM here in Athens, Ohio, = site of the nightly best jazz programming in the Midwest!!!   Could this program be replayed at other public radio venues?? If so, = how???   Stan Krider      
(back) Subject: Frozen Chosen" vs. "Happy Clappy From: KriderSM@aol.com Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:29:32 EDT   ....then remind the "Happy Clappy' church members that the "Frozen Chosen" =   church is real church to the frozen chozen crown, a fact that often = escapes the evangelistic zeal of the "Happy Clappy" crowd.   'Nuff said about that!!!   What is for the goose is also good for the gander! (er...Sorry Bruce, = what's good for Mama Beagle is also good for Papa Beagle also. Hehehe )   Stan Krider   N Brown reminded us that:   <"Happy Clappy" is real church to the happy clappy crowd.>    
(back) Subject: Re: Salve Mater misericordia in English From: "Mark Checkley" <xcs53@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:22:19 +0100   It is, indeed, a requirement that a stipendiary Anglican Priest shall say the Morning and Evening offices DAILY - or, if reasonably unavailable, cause them to be said by a responsible layperson.   This regulation is not always observed.   Mark Checkley.   -----Original Message----- From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 01:00 Subject: Re: Salve Mater misericordia in English     > >Think I might have to edit the text just a WEE bit, even for HIGH-CHURCH >Anglicans (grin) ... I'd forgotten it was quite THAT flowery. Oh well, = it's a >pretty melody ... I'll find SOMETHING to sing to it (grin). > >Just finished writing the music for Sung Mattins ... the seminarians are going to >sing it every Friday at 6 a.m. (!). I'm SURE it'll be interesting (grin) .... >these guys sing like Teddy Roosevelt and the Rough Riders ... very authentic, I'm >SURE. > >Interestingly enough, the obligation to say Divine Office (shortened Anglican >version: Mattins and Evensong) is still canon law in the Anglican = Catholic >Church, at least for clergy in major Orders. The Rector has extended that to the >seminarians studying for the diaconate and/or the priesthood. They work full-time >during the day and meet for classes at night, so they only sing Evensong = on >Wednesdays before class and Mattins on Fridays before their weekly breakfast >get-together; the rest of the time they say it privately. At least SO far .... God >help us! He'll probably want it DAILY before too long (grin). > >I don't mind ... I'm up that early, and it's free breakfast. > >Cheers, > >Bud > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Drinking and driving the organ From: DudelK@aol.com Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:47:49 EDT   In a message dated 99-06-16 08:35:33 EDT, you write:   << The Austrian organbuilder Rieger also included a number of these in their instruments, controlled by a knob marked "Rausch" -- which as well as = being part of stop names like Rauschquint, Rauschpfeife, etc., also means "alcohol"! >> Now if they could only figure a way to work in an ice maker for those of = us what likes our martinis well chilled!  
(back) Subject: Off Topic - Houston From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:48:29 EDT   Dear List Members:   Is anyone on this list in Houston? If so please contact me privately -- = with a new job offer pending I will be required to temporarily relocate to = Houston for career training for a period of five to eight months. I know nothing about Houston, so any help regarding safe areas, rental properties, = roommate situations, etc... would be greatly appreciated. Private replies are encouraged (since this request isn't really organ related).   Thanks,   John P.S. This career opportunity is organ related.  
(back) Subject: Fw: Drinking and driving the organ From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:25:12 -0500   I have in my back issues of Theatre Organ, a man who built a one -manual, one -rank "organ" with beer can pipes. The "stops" were old-fashioned = draft beer taps.   Rick   -----Original Message----- From: DudelK@aol.com <DudelK@aol.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 9:51 AM Subject: Re: Drinking and driving the organ     >In a message dated 99-06-16 08:35:33 EDT, you write: > ><< > The Austrian organbuilder Rieger also included a number of these in = their > instruments, controlled by a knob marked "Rausch" -- which as well as being > part of stop names like Rauschquint, Rauschpfeife, etc., also means >"alcohol"! > >> >Now if they could only figure a way to work in an ice maker for those of = us >what likes our martinis well chilled! > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Drinking and driving the organ From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:36:39 -0700   I can't resist, did one get air and sound out of the pipes or beer of various types?   Jason   > I have in my back issues of Theatre Organ, a man who built a one = -manual, > one -rank "organ" with beer can pipes. The "stops" were old-fashioned = draft > beer taps. >  
(back) Subject: Fw: Drinking and driving the organ From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:50:31 -0500   I have no idea. What sound comes from Papst, Bud, Becks, Rolling Rock, = etc, besides the usual backfire?   Rick   -----Original Message----- From: Jason McGuire <jason@johannus-norcal.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 1:43 PM Subject: Re: Drinking and driving the organ     >I can't resist, did one get air and sound out of the pipes or beer of >various types? > >Jason > >> I have in my back issues of Theatre Organ, a man who built a one = -manual, >> one -rank "organ" with beer can pipes. The "stops" were old-fashioned draft >> beer taps. >> > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Drinking and driving the organ From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:03:57 -0700   It would be a fun party item if there were a few stops that had the beer names on them and spouts from a few of the pipes (additional ones added = for the purpose) ... someone could play a few notes and serve beer to guests! I'm a one, two a most, beer guy who almost never drinks it anyway ... a glass of wine with dinner once in a while, but I always stop if I feel anything at all ... no backfire here!   Jason   > I have no idea. What sound comes from Papst, Bud, Becks, Rolling Rock, = etc, > besides the usual backfire? > > Rick  
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Drinking and driving the organ From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:16:03 EDT   Hi Rick---- Uhhhh,,,perhaps the occasional *burrrrrp* to go along with the backfire. Those pipes might have been specially voiced to get a small *burrrrp* = before coming on speech, in some respects, it might have been easier on the ears than the near one second *chiff* that one still hears round about. Cheers, ---Roc  
(back) Subject: Fw: Fw: Drinking and driving the organ From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:40:37 -0500   I have an album from the Cap'ns Galley Pizza Parlor in Redwood City, Ca. with "Theres' a Tavern In The Town". At the end of the song is a toilet flush.   -----Original Message----- From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 2:18 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Drinking and driving the organ     >Hi Rick---- >Uhhhh,,,perhaps the occasional *burrrrrp* to go along with the backfire. >Those pipes might have been specially voiced to get a small *burrrrp* before >coming on speech, in some respects, it might have been easier on the ears >than the near one second *chiff* that one still hears round about. >Cheers, >---Roc > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Fw: Drinking and driving the organ From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:42:43 -0500   Good idea Jason, but how 'bout a large-scale model steam train delivering drinks around the bar to customers?   Rick   -----Original Message----- From: Jason McGuire <jason@johannus-norcal.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 2:11 PM Subject: Re: Drinking and driving the organ     >It would be a fun party item if there were a few stops that had the beer >names on them and spouts from a few of the pipes (additional ones added = for >the purpose) ... someone could play a few notes and serve beer to guests! >I'm a one, two a most, beer guy who almost never drinks it anyway ... a >glass of wine with dinner once in a while, but I always stop if I feel >anything at all ... no backfire here! > >Jason > >> I have no idea. What sound comes from Papst, Bud, Becks, Rolling Rock, etc, >> besides the usual backfire? >> >> Rick > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Drinking and driving the organ From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:55:31 EDT   In a message dated 6/15/99 12:21:11 PM Central Daylight Time, GRSCoLVR@AOL.COM writes:   << In my opinion,,a glass of water on, or in the console in church is not a bad thing. >>   When I was a high school student (many moons ago) my organ teacher NEVER allowed food or drink near the organ console. Because I'm a fumbelina it = was very good advice... it would have been all over the console. However, I = do on occasion keep a glass of water (on a coaster) on the console -- the organ/console is in the rear gallery of the church and the sun blazes in through the stained glass windows right behind me and it does get mighty = hot during the summer! Fortunately, I haven't spilt it ...yet!   John    
(back) Subject: Re: Drinking and driving the organ From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:58:06 -0700   Cool!   Jason   > Good idea Jason, but how 'bout a large-scale model steam train = delivering > drinks around the bar to customers? > > Rick >  
(back) Subject: Re: Few! From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:14:07 EDT   In a message dated 6/14/99 10:42:46 PM Central Daylight Time, Innkawgneeto@webtv.net writes:   << Mr. Doney, I was going to say, Relieve oneself immediately before entering the organ loft, but I didn't think it would be proper. But it is an important rule nonetheless. Ooops, I said it, didn't I? >>   At the base of the stairs to the organ/choir loft there is a small bathroom... I've never used it during a service; however, I have used it before and after services a time or two!   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Few! From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:19:14 EDT   In a message dated 6/14/99 10:04:57 PM Central Daylight Time, Innkawgneeto@webtv.net writes:   << Always eat normal food before a performance (you may have). >>   On Sunday mornings I never eat anything before the service, I was taught = that you are supposed to fast before the Eucharist on Sunday mornings.... = However, I break that rule on Wednesday evenings when we have a full evening = complete with dinner, bible study, Vespers & Eucharist, followed by choir rehearsals...   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Drinking and driving the organ From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:21:54 EDT   In a message dated 6/16/99 4:04:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jason@johannus-norcal.com writes:   << >> Cool-----   Hmmmm,,,,ran a steam locomotive 1' to 1' scale for a good many years on = our local privately owned tourist railroad. I hasten to add that its "kewl" hehehe<G> indeed,, but "cool" no way, = hehehe, very hot in the summer and quite warm even in the dead of winter. ~~~~~~mopping brow just at the thawt~~~~~~ Cheers, ---Roc  
(back) Subject: Re: Drinking and driving the organ From: "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:23:51 -0400   Yes. But, objectively, how has the age demographic changed in those same years? Makes a difference.   Alan   >From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) >To: pipechat@pipechat.org (PipeChat) >Subject: Re: Drinking and driving the organ >Date: Tue, Jun 15, 1999, 10:58 PM   > I remember when people could sit all the way through > church without a drink of water or trip to the loo.    
(back) Subject: 1998 Ten Top Hymns From: ProOrgo48@aol.com Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:16:17 EDT   Music-Makers of North America, Greetings:   The Hymn Society of America and Canada is to publish a list of the ten top =   hymns sung in churches throughout our countries last year, in 1998. Accompaniment by Organ (pipe or electronic) or Piano is not really = germaine to the study, however it would be of interest to me, personally, if you = don't mind adding that to a listing you might care to forward. example:   Praise the Lord, Ye Heavens Adore Him/HYFRYDOL Sung 4 times O God, Our Help in Ages Past/ST. ANNE 3 times etc.   Please respond via Email, if you possibly can, by July 15. Many thanks, and have a great summer! Dale G. Rider, MSM, CAGO Life Member/Hymn Society of America/Canada ProOrgo48@aol.com  
(back) Subject: Re: 1998 Ten Top Hymns From: runyonr@muohio.edu (Randolph Runyon) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:13:31 -0500   >Music-Makers of North America, Greetings: > >The Hymn Society of America and Canada is to publish a list of the ten = top >hymns sung in churches throughout our countries last year, in 1998. >Accompaniment by Organ (pipe or electronic) or Piano is not really = germaine >to the study, however it would be of interest to me, personally, if you = don't >mind adding that to a listing you might care to forward. >example: > >Praise the Lord, Ye Heavens Adore Him/HYFRYDOL Sung 4 times >O God, Our Help in Ages Past/ST. ANNE 3 times >etc. > >Please respond via Email, if you possibly can, by July 15. >Many thanks, and have a great summer! >Dale G. Rider, MSM, CAGO >Life Member/Hymn Society of America/Canada >ProOrgo48@aol.com   I guess you mean the "top ten" in the sense of the most frequently sung = (as opposed to our personal favorites). I would never have picked Hyfrydol as a popular favorite among the churches I've played organ for (not that I don't like it myself). I'm sure some of them have never even heard of it, and would object to it as a new hymn if it were put before them. St. Anne I can understand; everyone knows that. My candidate for the hands-down popular favorite is Nicea (Holy, Holy, Holy). I once played for a church that sang it every three months.   Randy Runyon runyonr@muohio.edu   Professor of French, Miami University (Oxford, OH)      
(back) Subject: Re: 1998 Ten Top Hymns From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:59:52 EDT   At my church these are the 10 most frequently sung hymns in 1998:   Let Us Break Bread Together/ BREAK BREAD TOGETHER - 12+ X Draw Near and Take.../ COENA DOMINI - 10 X Now We Join in Celebration/ SCHMUCKE DICH - 8 X O Living Bread From Heaven/ AURELIA - 8 X Soul Adorn Yourself.../ SCHMUCKE DICH - 7 X Joyful, Joyful... / HYMN TO JOY - 6 X Lord of Glory, You Have Brought Us / HYFRYDOL - 6 X Lord Dismiss Us With Your Blessing / SICILIAN MARINERS - 5 X Dearest Jesus At Your Word / LIEBSTER JESU - 5 X A Mighty Fortress / EIN FESTE BURG - 5 X   I hope this helps!   John A. Gambill, Jr. Organist/Choirmaster Oak Cliff Lutheran Church (ELCA) Dallas, TX   10 ranks/ 2 manual / EP -- McManis Organ    
(back) Subject: Re: 1998 Ten Top Hymns From: Rod Murrow <murrows@pldi.net> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 23:48:18 -0500   1.) As I understand the original post, we were asked to look through = actual church service bulletins and list the most-sung hymn for 1998 - not to cast a = vote for our favorite top-ten list of hymns. I'm still working on it...will take = awhile to go back through the bulletins.   2.) your church members have never heard of Hyfrydol? What denomination = is this church?   Rod Murrow   Randolph Runyon wrote:   > I would never have picked Hyfrydol as a popular favorite among the = churches > I've played organ for (not that I don't like it myself). I'm sure some = of them > have never even heard of it, and would object to it as a new hymn if it = were put > before them. St. Anne > I can understand; everyone knows that. My candidate for the hands-down > popular favorite is Nicea (Holy, Holy, Holy). I once played for a = church > that sang it every three months.    
(back) Subject: Re: 1998 Ten Top Hymns From: ProOrgo48@aol.com Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:49:44 EDT   John,   Thank you, sincerely, for your posted email.   Dale Rider  
(back) Subject: RE: request for hymn tabulation From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:52:06 -0700   Our Mass requires five hymns:   Processional (Sermon - currently omitted for the summer; possibly permanently) Communion Recessional Orison (Kneeling Hymn) - practically always "Day By Day"   Not counting "Day By Day", that's something on the order of 200 hymns per year plus feast days. The ONLY hymns we sing more than 1x a year are the following:   Jesus Christ Is Risen Today - Easter Hymn - 3x Come Ye Faithful, Raise the Strain - St. Kevin - 3x The Strife Is O'er - Victory - 3x At The Lamb's High Feast We Sing - Salzburg - 6x - our most popular festal Communion Hymn, in and out of Eastertide The Day of Resurrection - Ellacombe - 3x   (obviously the 1940 Hymnal needs more Easter hymns!)   Now, My Tongue, the Mystery Telling - Pange lingua/Palestrina - 2x (Maundy Thursday and Corpus Christi) The Royal Banners Forward Go - Vexilla regis w/fauxbourdon or Spires - 3x (Passion Sunday, Good Friday, Exaltation of the Holy Cross) Sing, My Tongue, the Glorious Battle - Pange lingua/Palestrina - 2x (Good Friday, Exaltation of the Holy Cross)   TUNES that we repeat: (mostly for desirable texts with undesirable and/or unknown tunes)   Ode to Joy - Hark! The Sound of Holy Voices/ Joyful, Joyful, We Adore Thee Kingsfold - O Mother Dear, Jerusalem/ When Jesus Left His Father's Throne/ O Jesus, Crowned With All Renown Aurelia - Jerusalem the Golden/ The Church's One Foundation Beecher - Love Divine/ There's A Wideness in God's Mercy Picardy - Judge Eternal, Throned In Splendor/ Let All Mortal Flesh Keep Silence/ Therefore We, Before Him Bending (Tantum ergo) Hermas - Welcome, Happy Morning/ On Our Way Rejoicing Pleading Saviour - Sing of Mary/ Jesus, Thou Divine Companion Sine nomine - For All The Saints/ All Praise To Thee, For Thou, O King Divine Jerusalem (Parry) - just about any Office Hymn for a Feast Day (grin)/ O Saving Victim (O Salutaris)   I'm sure there are others ... those are the pairings that come to mind. Other than that, we TRY not to repeat hymns, since there are 600 (plus the supplement) in the 1940, and we know less than half of them.   Cheers,   Bud St. Matthew's-in-the-Mall Newport Beach CA USA           P    
(back) Subject: Hyfrydol From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:55:20 -0700   I have consigned Hyfrydol to that stack of stuff that needs to go into a time capsule and be forgotten for a generation, along with Bach's Toccata and Fugue in d minor and the Widor Toccata.   We sing it ONCE a year, on the Sunday After Ascension. Episcopalians would sing it every Sunday if they could get away with it. At St. Matthew's, they can't (grin).   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: 1998 Ten Top Hymns From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:02:14 -0400 (EDT)   I will dig out my Hymn Usage Files on the puter at church and then post our top 10. I started doing this in 1995 after we had sung "here I am Lord" for the 8th month in a row. Keeping these records gets tedious at times, but I now can tell you exactly what hymns were sung on what Sundays from 1995 til the present (actually not true, I'm a couple Sundays behind). Thank goodness for table/spreadsheet capabilities on 'puters. --Neil Brown, Barnegat, USA    
(back) Subject: Re: 1998 Ten Top Hymns From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:08:51 EDT   In a message dated 6/16/99 11:52:15 PM Central Daylight Time, ProOrgo48@AOL.com writes:   << Thank you, sincerely, for your posted email. Dale Rider >>   You are most welcome... I realize that our hymns are, but of course, from = a Lutheran perspective... Good Luck on your research!   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Hyfrydol From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:20:19 EDT   DEAREST BUD,   What the !@#$ is wrong with HYFRYDOL? It's a beautiful work... as a = matter of fact, I want it played/sung at my funeral -- 50 some years from now (I hope)!   John  
(back) Subject: Re: 1998 Ten Top Hymns From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:22:35 EDT   In a message dated 6/17/99 12:04:56 AM Central Daylight Time, Innkawgneeto@webtv.net writes:   << Thank goodness for table/spreadsheet capabilities on 'puters. --Neil Brown, Barnegat, USA >>   Amen to that!!!   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Hyfrydol From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:21:31 EDT   Oh,   And on top of that -- IT"S FUN TO PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   John  
(back) Subject: Re: 1998 Ten Top Hymns From: Stanley E Yoder <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:25:25 -0400 (EDT)   I'm a little bemused by the frequencies-of-singing being reported. In our (ELCA) parish we seldom use a hymn more than twice a year, and most only once. The exception would be a hymn (tune, actually) new to the congregation, which we would sing several times over several months. The exception to THAT is when our pastor chooses a new hymn for the Hymn-of-the-Day. While he certainly knows his church music (has a degree in it), he is either brave or reckless (depending on your viewpoint) in his choice of HotD: if it fits his sermon or the theme of the day, it matters not whether the cong. has ever sung it before (if he can sing it, they can sing it). Because of that, I tend to be conservative in my selection of the other service hymns (again, not more than twice yearly).   Regarding Hyfrydol as unknown, I too am puzzled. LBW uses that tune for four hymns (exceeded only by Old Hundredth and Wie schon leuchtet (5 each), and Lutherans are historically not Welsh in origin (surprising, eh?) Stan Yoder Pittsburgh  
(back) Subject: Re: request for hymn tabulation From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:29:08 EDT   Bud,   ....And I thought I was an Anglican at heart!!! You've got me BEAT!!!   God Save the Queen and all that rot!   John (an Anglican serving in a Lutheran parish, and loving every minute of = it... thus far!)  
(back) Subject: Re: 1998 Ten Top Hymns From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:40:08 EDT   In a message dated 6/17/99 12:31:44 AM Central Daylight Time, syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu writes:   << Regarding Hyfrydol as unknown, I too am puzzled. LBW uses that tune for four hymns (exceeded only by Old Hundredth and Wie schon leuchtet (5 each), and Lutherans are historically not Welsh in origin (surprising, eh?) >>   Hmmm, the Lutheran parishes which I have served, here in Tejas, have all loved HYFRYDOL, amongst the other more obvious hymn tunes.... Perhaps = Texans are not as red-necked as most would believe.... at least not in Dallas!   John