PipeChat Digest #943 - Saturday, June 19, 1999
 
Re: Royal Wedding Music
  by "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Durn grammer!
  by "Robert Horton" <GEMSHORN@UKANS.EDU>
Re: Durn grammer!
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: PipeChat Digest #939 - 06/19/99
  by "Bruce Behnke" <behnke@lvcm.com>
Re: Durn grammer!
  by "Robert Horton" <GEMSHORN@UKANS.EDU>
Re: Half-trained organists who juts get by in Church.
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Half-trained organists who juts get by in Church.
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: hymn-playing, etc.
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Royal Wedding Music
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: sung vs said
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: treatment of choirs
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Hurray!
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: hymn-playing, etc.
  by <JKVDP@aol.com>
Re: Music, Church, Sport, Amateurism, Professionalism.
  by <JKVDP@aol.com>
Re: Royal Wedding Music
  by <JKVDP@aol.com>
Fw: Hurray!
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Royal Wedding Music
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
writing and pointing
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: Royal Wedding Music
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Crystal Cathedral on Astra
  by "John Winn" <john@jwinn.demon.co.uk>
RE: Half-trained organists vs. no organist
  by "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@worldnet.att.net>
Re: Hurray!
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: Durn grammer!
  by "Stanley E Yoder" <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Somewhat Empty Truck looking for move (X-Posted)
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpncorn@davesworld.net>
Mail Filters for Netscape
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpncorn@davesworld.net>
Re: Royal Wedding Music
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
requests
  by <ComposerTX@aol.com>
Re: Royal Wedding Music
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
vocal descants needed/wanted
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: volunteer vs paid organists
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: virtuosic hymn-playing, etc.
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Royal Wedding Music
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Hurray!
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Royal Wedding Music From: Stanley E Yoder <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 13:47:46 -0400 (EDT)   The wedding was shown on The Learning Channel (TLC), and will be repeated at 9PM and Midnight tonight, Eastern time. Great camera work.   One of the anthems was Elgar's 'The Spirit of the Lord', which caused that exhilarating feeling of "We've done that!" (in our parish). Stan Yoder Pittsburgh  
(back) Subject: Durn grammer! From: Robert Horton <GEMSHORN@UKANS.EDU> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 13:13:07 -0600   > That being said, the $68 dollar question is, what are/can we going >to do about it? Wow, me sure good speaking English today!   Let's try that again. >...That being said, what are we going to do about it, or is there even >anything we can do >about it.   Rob      
(back) Subject: Re: Durn grammer! From: runyonr@muohio.edu (Randolph Runyon) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 14:16:10 -0500   >> That being said, the $68 dollar question is, what are/can we = going >>to do about it? >Wow, me sure good speaking English today! > >Let's try that again. >>...That being said, what are we going to do about it, or is there even >>anything we can do >about it. > >Rob > As long as you're correcting your grammar, you might want to correct your math. I believe the question was worth only 64$. ;-)   R. Runyon      
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #939 - 06/19/99 From: Bruce Behnke <behnke@lvcm.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 99 11:33:54 -0700   Would you folks PLEEEEEEEASE learn how to reply to a post without repeating the entire blankety-blank thing right down to the:   >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > P etc.   It is getting absolutely ridiculous.   Bruce      
(back) Subject: Re: Durn grammer! From: Robert Horton <GEMSHORN@UKANS.EDU> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 13:47:02 -0600   R. Runyon wrote: >As long as you're correcting your grammar, you might want to correct your >math. I believe the question was worth only 64$. ;-)   Inflation...;-)      
(back) Subject: Re: Half-trained organists who juts get by in Church. From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 18:29:55 +0100   >Speaking as a half-trained organist who just "gets by" in Church >I would like to express the opinion that half-trained organists who >just get by in Church do a very great deal to make sure that >many Churches who could not obtain the services of a professional >organist due either to lack of funds or availability can at least >have the services of a half-trained organist who just gets by in church.     I can't agree more. I recently went on an RSCM (Royal School of Church Music) coarse entitled "Accompanying a Service". It was taken by Andrew Parnell, the assistant at St Albans Abbey, and a great organist. On this coarse there was me, and a friend, and the rest were "Half Trained Organists" (I know that I and my friend are too, but I mean 1/2 trained as in just get by at a church). These people, although not amazing musicians obviously hold their church services together, and do good jobs. Anyway, = it isn't just how trained you are in places like that, but your experience = that count.   Richard    
(back) Subject: Re: Half-trained organists who juts get by in Church. From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 18:36:53 +0100   >I can't image a concert-level organist wanting to be in a church = situation. >I don't recall that Arturo Toscanini conducting community choruses or >Vladimir Horowitz accompanying them.     I am not being rude, but what rubbish. What you meant to say was "most concert level organists have church jobs". In England, the concert only organists can be counted on the fingers of one hand. One or two made it to the top of the church jobs and turned concert only - but only 'cause they can afford to. You just have to look who is in charge of many of the Cathedrals to find many excellent organists.   Richard    
(back) Subject: Re: hymn-playing, etc. From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 18:49:32 +0100   >Worcestershire. > >Right in the middle. > >Evensong usually commands a Congregation of >between 40 - 60, plus about 30 - 35 in the Choir. > >It's by far the best attended service - alas; they're >not very Eucharistic. Only a TINY village. > >Mark Checkley.     Congratulations on that! We are the Civic church for Northampton, and we = are lucky to get 30 at a service 0 most of the time the choir outnumber the congregation - shame.   Richard    
(back) Subject: Re: Royal Wedding Music From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 19:07:48 +0100   >I believe that a week from this Saturday there will be a royal wedding at St. >George's Chapel, Windsor. Will it be broadcast, televised? Does = anyone >know the music planned or any websites giving info? >Jerry in Seattle     I watched it live - nice service. The only "bloop" (although it doesn't really matter) was that as Sophie arrived the brass played a fanfare - all fine and good. Then the organ voluntary started (March Eroique - Brewer), but it was a semi-tone higher. You would have thought that as the fanfare was written for the occasion that the composer could have written it up a semi-tone!!!   Richard.    
(back) Subject: Re: sung vs said From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 19:13:41 +0100   >If I'm not mistaken, the 1662 ENGLISH Prayer Book calls it Mattins and >Evensong, whether it's said OR sung. > >Cheers, > >Bud >     It gets confusing when it is sung and called Evening Prayer (which does happen!!)   Richard    
(back) Subject: Re: treatment of choirs From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 19:19:23 +0100   It is not the treatment of choirs we should be talking about, it is the = way they treat us! Lay-clerks at Cathedrals are particularly notorious. My organ teacher told me a story about a recording sessions last year when he was the organ scholar at St Paul's. The session was scheduled from (I think) 7-9pm. At = 9pm they were half way through the last take of the evening - the lay-clerks just walked out. Why couldn't the have waited 30 seconds to finish the = take. Barmy!   Richard    
(back) Subject: Hurray! From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 19:43:41 +0100     Dear List,   I thought that I would post a happy posting for you all!   I have just been told that I am to be the Organ Scholar at All Saints starting September (I will probably sing a bit there still too). This is because the current organ scholar isn't terribly good (I don't mean half trained - he just isn't right for such a big church). Anyway I am really happy so none of your insulting posts can annoy me!!! :-)   Richard    
(back) Subject: Re: hymn-playing, etc. From: JKVDP@aol.com Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 14:48:49 EDT   In a message dated 99-06-19 12:01:06 EDT, xcs53@dial.pipex.com writes:   << Where I do NOT agree with you is in your seemingly single-minded view that the way to improve standards is to PAY MONEY and HIRE PROFESSIONALS. >>   I believe all of us should at least do some volunteer work. I am paid = quite well for a little work on Thursday evenings and Sunday mornings in a = suburban Presbyterian Church. Then I volunteer on alternate Sunday evenings in the small town church in which my wife and I hold membership. Jerry in Seattle  
(back) Subject: Re: Music, Church, Sport, Amateurism, Professionalism. From: JKVDP@aol.com Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 14:48:50 EDT   In a message dated 99-06-19 12:36:32 EDT, xcs53@dial.pipex.com writes:   << This is very different from England, where every village has its cricket team, and all but the smallest have Rugby and Soccer teams as well - all playing in local leagues, for fun, on Staurday afternoons. (These are grown men, not children / teenagers). >> Sadly in North America Soccer for teens now takes place on Sunday Mornings = so for a few months each year certain families are missing from church and = choir because of soccer committments. Jerry in Seattle  
(back) Subject: Re: Royal Wedding Music From: JKVDP@aol.com Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 14:48:51 EDT   In a message dated 99-06-19 12:51:51 EDT, douglas@blackiris.com writes:   << Anthem - The Spirit Of The Lord - Elgar I loved hearing the "Prologue" to t"he Apostles", but what makes this appropriate for weddings? Jerry  
(back) Subject: Fw: Hurray! From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 14:18:46 -0500   Congrats, Richard.   Rick V.   -----Original Message----- From: Richard Pinel <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Saturday, June 19, 1999 1:58 PM Subject: Hurray!     > >Dear List, > >I thought that I would post a happy posting for you all! > >I have just been told that I am to be the Organ Scholar at All Saints >starting September (I will probably sing a bit there still too). This is >because the current organ scholar isn't terribly good (I don't mean half >trained - he just isn't right for such a big church). Anyway I am really >happy so none of your insulting posts can annoy me!!! :-) > >Richard > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Royal Wedding Music From: runyonr@muohio.edu (Randolph Runyon) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 15:29:30 -0500   >In a message dated 99-06-19 12:51:51 EDT, douglas@blackiris.com writes: > ><< Anthem - The Spirit Of The Lord - Elgar > >I loved hearing the "Prologue" to t"he Apostles", but what makes this >appropriate for weddings? >Jerry > Pardon my ignorance, but if Elgar's "The Spirit of the Lord" is the same thing as the "Prologue" to "The Apostles", then I understand your question to be what makes "The Spirit of the Lord" appropriate for weddings. I think it is appropriate for this particular wedding. I read it politically. Sophie is a sosie (i.e., "look-alike") for the late Diana. Most people can't look at her and not say, Why she looks just like Diana. The text of the anthem, I think, is Luke 4. 18: "The Spirit of the Lord = is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the good news to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the capitives, and the recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty = them that are bruised," etc. I don't have a copy of Elgar's anthem in front of me, and his text may be somewhat different, but I believe that is the = basic sense. Diana was eulogized for her ability to connect with the common folk, particularly with the poor. They called her the People's Princess. I think that is the hidden agenda behind the choice of anthem. The royal family want to give the appearance of acknowledging Diana's common touch. Or if not the royal family, then whoever in the church picked the anthem. There's almost always a message in the choices we make, often = unconsciously so. This wedding, as a public spectacle, is meant to heal the brokenhearted who miss the late Princess, and to acknowledge the enormous gap between the wealthy royals and the poor masses, a gap evidently once bridged by the princess to whom Sophie bears so striking a physical resemblance. Hence the remarkable appropriateness of the anthem. I take this in a positive sense, by the way, cynic though I normally am.   R. Runyon      
(back) Subject: writing and pointing From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 12:30:52 -0700       Mark Checkley wrote:   > Bud, > > I can't see why you have to spend all that time WRITING Music ? > Is your liturgy unique, so there are no "standard settings" of the = things > you need ? I would have thought, in your sort of Church, that there > would at least be Plainsong tones for just about everything you > need. However, if you say it is necessary, then it obviously is; you're > the one on the spot.   For two reasons: first, the Propers of the Mass were never sung by the = majority of Anglican churches. There are but two settings: the English Gradual, = Part II, by the late Francis Burgess, which sets them (badly) to the same five psalm-tones for the entire year ... the plates are so worn that the last = set we bought were unreadable in places. The other setting is the monumental = Plainchant Gradual by the late Rev'd Dr. G.H. Palmer, late chaplain to the Convent of = St. Mary, Wantage, Oxfordshire ... the full Gregorian melodies of the Graduale Romanum set to English texts. BUT ... Palmer is in GREGORIAN notation.   There's nothing in between, unlike the pre-Vatican II RC church, which had settings of the Propers running the gamut from Isaac (Choralis = Constantinus) to Byrd (Gradualia) to Palestrina (the Offertories, at least) to Griesbacher = (what R. Wagner would have written if somebody had given him a BAD hit of LSD = [grin] .... they're so awful they're FUN) to Father Rossini (psalm-tones, but a = better variety) and A. Edmonds Tozer (simple fauxbourdons).   So ... we sing a l bit of Chant (the Communions and the Alleluia = melodies), a bit of fauxbourdons (the Introits and the Alleluia Verse), a bit of = Anglican chant (the Gradual -- we sing a full Psalm, and also a full Psalm with the Communion) and a bit of the solemn and simple psalmody (whenever I don't = feel like writing out something else, or whenever I don't have a full choir).   In addition, we DON'T stick strictly to the texts of the Anglican Missal = all the time, so there are many texts that don't have settings, either in the = Burgess OR the Palmer.   The choir only uses the Burgess when I'm on holiday ... the cantor can = lead them in those without the organ, since nobody seems to be able to improvise accompaniments to the tones (sigh).   In a burst of heaven-knows-what, I DID teach them to read Gregorian notes, = and they have great fun with it, but, except for the Communions and the = Alleluias, the chants are simply too LONG in our present situation ... we seldom have incense because of the low ceiling in the chapel ... so there's not a need = for a five or ten-minute introit, except when the Archbishop comes to call = (grin). Nor is there a great long Gospel procession. We DO sing for 15-20 minutes = straight at Communion-time ... that's why we add a complete Psalm.   But the MAIN reason I do so much writing will probably scandalize you: the reading of pointing is virtually a lost art in this country. When the = American Episcopal Church dropped Mattins as the principal service on Sundays = twenty or thirty years ago, everybody forgot how to read it. With limited rehearsal = time, I find it easier to write everything out, verse by verse, rather than = teaching them to read pointing. As a result, our Anglican chanting is VERY accurate = and rather more flexible than what one finds in the various Psalters ... and = I've yet to find one that I liked well enough to adopt in any case.   I DO include the pointing with the words of each verse, along with the = music, so they ARE picking it up little by little; on the rare occasion when they DO = have to sing from just pointed words, they CAN do it, at least to a few = familiar chants.   That's another difference between the U.S. and Britain ... the orderly = chanting of the Psalter never got established, except in a VERY few cathedral = churches and the seminaries, so there's no tradition of it. I've taught my = CONGREGATION to read pointed psalms in the service leaflet (led by the choir, who has = the written-out version in front of them), and the people are proud as punch = that they can sing psalms (grin).The congregation at early Mass can even do it without the choir, as long as I stick to the old chants that were formerly = used for the canticles at Mattins ... there was one set that seemed to be sung virtually everywhere.   So I produce a LOT of material, particularly when you add in the psalms = and canticles for Mattins and Evensong for the seminarians, which have to be = written in Gregorian notation, since they have to learn it in order to sing Mass = from the Missal.   > Whilst I agree that less kiddies learn Piano these days than did "when I > was a boy", I am shocked to learn that that is the situation in an = affluent > neighbourhood. Are you sure you've got it right ? Have you met and = talked > this over with the principles of your local schools ?   I wrote to and/or spoke with every single junior and senior high school in = the area, looking for both singers and keyboard players. Nothing ...   It's all soccer and Little League baseball and Pop Warner football and = heaven knows what else ... my cantor has five kids, and he's forever being late = because of some sports game or other. Sports mania RULES in the U.S. to a degree = that I imagine is unknown in Britain. Some churches even reschedule their = SERVICES on Super Bowl Sunday (!).   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Royal Wedding Music From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 16:41:02 EDT   In a message dated 6/19/99 7:06:29 AM Central Daylight Time, organist@x-stream.co.uk writes:   << I really DON'T think you meant to say that, did you? >>   "If it was not so I would not have told you so." :-)   John  
(back) Subject: Crystal Cathedral on Astra From: "John Winn" <john@jwinn.demon.co.uk> Date: 19 Jun 99 20:43:26 +0200   For those in the UK and Europe who want to see what the Crystal Cathedral is like it is on transponder 50 - CNBC - of the Astra Satellite from 8am to 9am (BST) 9am to 10am CET on Sunday mornings. At present they are running recordings made in January.   It is certainly an impressive building and a wonderful organ though I would think it suffers from some horrendous temperature changes.   If anyone can receive Astra and wants tuning details contact me privately.   Regards,   John   -- John Winn   Upminster, England  
(back) Subject: RE: Half-trained organists vs. no organist From: "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 14:20:36 -0700   > Oh, how I'd love to hear Amy Grant AND Sandi Patti sing "Messiah". It > would be as much fun as watching the carollers merrily running through > the "accidently activated" lawn sprinklers. I'm sure the duets would > be absolutely, er, memorable!!   Like the sound of the book at the end of Good Friday, we hear the sound of = a mind shutting!   For the record, Sandi Patti has a range to rival any operatic soprano. = I'm sure she would do an excellent job with Messiah.   Dennis    
(back) Subject: Re: Hurray! From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 18:38:48 EDT   Richard--- CONGRATS on your upcoming "promotion". I was very very glad to read of = that in your post. Best of luck to you, in all the endeavors. Cheers, ---Roc  
(back) Subject: Re: Durn grammer! From: Stanley E Yoder <syoder+@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 18:53:58 -0400 (EDT)   Excerpts from mail: 19-Jun-99 Durn grammer! by Robert Horton@UKANS.EDU > Let's try that again. > >...That being said, what are we going to do about it, or is there even > >anything we can do >about it. >   Not to put too fine a point on it, but how about a "?" at the end of duh zentence? Stan Yoder Pittsburgh  
(back) Subject: Somewhat Empty Truck looking for move (X-Posted) From: Richard Schneider <arpncorn@davesworld.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 16:40:24 -0700   Rev. Robert Linnstaedt <Linnstaedt@aol.com> forwarded the following message to the ROS list from Dave Smith M<outback@mkl.com>   > I have a couple different trucks passing through my area, the first or > second week of July that will be returning empty.   I thought I might add that I will be in somewhat the same position, as I have to go to Aberdeen, SD in a week or so to remove a pipe organ to bring back here. While we will have to fill our 24' truck with some supplies and Pipe Trays to effect the move, it may be possible to put a Reed Organ or a Piano into the back, for a possible stop-over anywhere (reasonable, of course) between Kenney (Central) IL, and Aberdeen, prolly via Iowa and southern Minnesota (I-90).   Anyone having anything needing moved in that direction, please let me know privately.   THANKS!   Faithfully,   Richard Schneider, President SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Organbuilders 41-43 Johnston Street Post Office Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX mailto:arpncorn@davesworld.net EMAIL (Note change in ISP's Domain-Name!)      
(back) Subject: Mail Filters for Netscape From: Richard Schneider <arpncorn@davesworld.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 17:50:15 -0700   Bud Clark wrote:   > How do I set my e-mail so as not to receive further postings from Bruce > Cornely?   Dr. Pete Replied:   > It al depends on what email software you are using. If you are using > Netscape, I am not sure if it handles filters, proabably not.   Yes it does. At least my version does. I think the latest Communicator version I have at home does also, but I'd have to check. (I can't imagine them taking away a feature if it exists in earlier versions!)   If you go into the EDIT window, there is a heading for MAIL FILTERS towards the bottom of the list. Click on NEW to create a new filter, then give the filter a name (in this case, Cornley), then select "if the sender" of the message (next multiple choice window) "is" (then type in) "Bruce Cornley" <and his email address" then "move to folder" "trash" and that's all there is to it. In this way, you can easily set-up the filter to delete EMAILS from individual posters of whatever name you choose. You can also use it to automatically sort incoming mail to specific mailboxes you set up.   Hope this helps!   Faithfully,   "Arp"   Rich Schneider SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Organbuilders 41-43 Johnston Street Post Office Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX mailto:arpncorn@davesworld.net EMAIL (Note change in ISP's Domain-Name!)      
(back) Subject: Re: Royal Wedding Music From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 19:56:04 EDT   If anyone has satellite television BBC America has been running = rebroadcasts of the Royal wedding today. Furthermore, for information regarding this Royal wedding and previous ones visit this website: BBCAmerica.com   John  
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(back) Subject: Re: Royal Wedding Music From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 22:33:04 -0400 (EDT)   >>Especially since HRH Prince Edward is not "quite" the marrying type!<<   Her highness, the Ms. Rhys-Jones (pardon if spelled wrongly) thinks he is. Just one question: Is she related to the chap that was the sole survivor of a famous Paris traffic accident? --Neil    
(back) Subject: vocal descants needed/wanted From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 19:33:04 -0700   I let my collection of descant books get away from me when I broke up housekeeping in San Diego. I'm afraid most of them were out of print. Would anybody be willing to share? I finally have a soprano who can SING them, and the time to teach them to her over the summer.   THANKS!   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: volunteer vs paid organists From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 22:40:17 -0400 (EDT)   >>The wailing and knashing of teeth will come as the Parish Council anguishes over how to inform the congregation that the church must now close its doors forever.<<   To prove your point, Mr. Krider, just up the road in Elizabeth, NJ, a beautiful old catholic church (the name escapes me now) is in danger of being closed and used only for weddings and funerals. The congregation is now attempting a fundraising campaign to save the building. Anyone who has ever flown into Newark Intl. Airport from the south has probably seen this beautiful building. The diocese says there are not enough people left to justify keeping it open, and that the remaining ones should move to another parish. I look forward to watching this in the coming months. To keep this on topic, I don't have any idea what kind of organ they have (there on topic). --Neil Brown    
(back) Subject: Re: virtuosic hymn-playing, etc. From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 22:48:21 -0400 (EDT)     Two words, ugh ugh.   My friend Bruce said: >> Doing "it" just to do "it", often leads to disaster for failure, at best. It is the intent which allows the Spirit in!<<   Isn't that what I said in so many words? --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Royal Wedding Music From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 22:55:02 -0400 (EDT)   Richard, maybe it was!! Perhaps with all the people, all the camera lights, the organ modulated on its own. I haven't seen the service, I hope it is rebroadcast here in US sometime by someone. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Hurray! From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 22:56:02 -0400 (EDT)   No insults here, Richard. CONGRATULATIONS and GOD BLESS YOU, my boy. --Neil