PipeChat Digest #946 - Sunday, June 20, 1999
 
Re: virtuosic hymn-playing, etc.
  by "ray ahrens" <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com>
requests
  by <ProOrgo48@aol.com>
Re: Hyfrydol
  by "Michael Davis" <MichaelDavis@wykecottage.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Pig-ignorance; two can play.
  by "Michael Davis" <MichaelDavis@wykecottage.freeserve.co.uk>
 


(back) Subject: Re: virtuosic hymn-playing, etc. From: ray ahrens <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 22:19:20 PDT       >Mark Checkley wrote: > > > Why do I need to HIRE one (you are OBSESSED with getting > > PAID) when I have three very competent Organists (all better > > than me) in the Parish, who are very happy to do it for nothing ? > > > >I don't know about other listmembers, but I'm not independently wealthy, >and >being an organist/choirmaster is how I make my LIVING ... I'm full-time = at >St. >Matthew's, and they pay me a full-time (albeit modest) salary. As a = result, >I'm available to the Rector whenever he needs to consult with me; I'm >available to the Parish whenever music is required. I have adequate time = to >practice, compose and do research. > >Churches who don't pay their musicians are lulled into a false sense of >security/economy. Someday, Mark, there WON'T be three organists who are >happy >to do it for nothing; and THEN there will be wailing and gnashing of = teeth >in >the Parish Council when they discover how much a competent organist COSTS =   >in >the real world. It's a fact of life that folks tend not to value things >that >cost them nothing. > >Cheers, > >Bud   Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.     _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com  
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(back) Subject: Re: Hyfrydol From: "Michael Davis" <MichaelDavis@wykecottage.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 06:43:49 +0100   Mark, most Catholics go to church because they WANT to be there and there is rarely a shortage of people who participate in some form of ministry = such as welcoming, being a eucharistic minister, singing in the choir, or just going there to participate as a member of the congregation. Your "strong feeling" may not have any grounds at all.       regards Michael     ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Checkley <xcs53@dial.pipex.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: 18 June 1999 23:05 Subject: Re: Hyfrydol     > There is, and always has been in my lifetime, a strong feeling > amongst many practising Roman Catholics that:- > > A. One MUST, without fail, GO TO MASS. > > B. One need NOT do anything else, other than "be there". > > This leads to a significant percentage of Roman Catholics > who do precisely these things. Both of them. > > Mark Checkley. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Noel Stoutenburg <mjolnir@ticnet.com> > To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Date: Friday, June 18, 1999 10:44 > Subject: Re: Hyfrydol > > > > > > > >Randolph Runyon wrote, in part : > > > >> <snip>... I think the real reason they have come is not to worship, = or to > >> praise God, > >> but to partake of the eucharist. > > > >I suspect that there may be a significant number of Christians for whom > worship > >and partaking of the Eucharist are so closely intertwined that it is > >undesireable to have one without the other. > > > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Pig-ignorance; two can play. From: "Michael Davis" <MichaelDavis@wykecottage.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 07:00:31 +0100   Forgive me for being sanctimonious but this is humiliating stuff. I cannot believe that this type of language has been used amongst the type of = people I expect to find on a list like this - whether sent privately or not.   the shame of it........   ----- Original Message ----- From: ray ahrens <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: 20 June 1999 06:01 Subject: Re: Pig-ignorance; two can play.     > > > > >From: "Mark Checkley" <xcs53@dial.pipex.com> > >Reply-To: "Mark Checkley" <xcs53@dial.pipex.com> > >To: <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com> > >Subject: Pig-ignorance; two can play. > >Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 11:05:32 +0100 > > > >Has anyone told you what a total fucking wanker you are ? > > > >Well, they have now. > > > >Mark Checkley. > > > Mark, > > Is this what you mean by preaching the Gospel? > > Ray Ahrens > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >