PipeChat Digest #952 - Tuesday, June 22, 1999
 
Re: Melgaard/National Anthem
  by "Matthew J. Baker" <poinsettia@netxn.com>
Organs in gymnasiums
  by <WAYNE_BURCHAM@RSAUSA.COM>
Re: Organ playing in the Swiss
  by "Copeman Hart & Company Ltd" <info@copemanhart.co.uk>
Raleigh, NC
  by <WAYNE_BURCHAM@RSAUSA.COM>
organs in gyms
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Melgaard/National Anthem
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
organs in gyms
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: organs in gyms
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
64' full-length
  by <WAYNE_BURCHAM@RSAUSA.COM>
lyrics search....
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
64 -foot earthquakes
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Fw: George Wright
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Melgaard/National Anthem
  by "jchabermaas" <opus1100@theatreorgans.com>
Re: lyrics search....
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: organs in gyms
  by "Rick \"OrganPlayer\" Locher" <rick.locher@gte.net>
Re: organs in gyms
  by <ROBIN88866@aol.com>
SAVE THE AUSTIN?
  by "Frank Johnson" <usd465@hit.net>
Re: SAVE THE AUSTIN?
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
query--Hilgreen-Lane Opus List
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: SAVE THE AUSTIN?
  by "Ron Yost" <musik@tcsn.net>
Re: SAVE THE AUSTIN?
  by "Ron Yost" <musik@tcsn.net>
Re: SAVE THE AUSTIN?
  by "Frank Johnson" <usd465@hit.net>
Re: SAVE THE AUSTIN?
  by "Frank Johnson" <usd465@hit.net>
Re: SAVE THE AUSTIN?
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net>
Re: TO LIST OWNER
  by "Rev.Ed" <edwardorgan@hotmail.com>
Re: SAVE THE AUSTIN?- console unwiring.
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: SAVE THE AUSTIN?- console unwiring.
  by "Frank Johnson" <usd465@hit.net>
Save the Austin
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Melgaard/National Anthem From: "Matthew J. Baker" <poinsettia@netxn.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 02:46:31 -0700   Does anyone have/know of a specification or stoplist of the [late] Chicago Stadium Barton?   >Long time ago at the Chicago Stadium Barton, Al Melgaard was playing a >boxing match. The spectators (oops..almost said congregation) broke out into >their OWN fight. Quick-thinking, Al +ACI-pulled out all the stops+ACI- and >played >The National Anthem -which immediately broke the windows and light bulbs in >the building. The melee stopped. Al had a life-time job there after that. >Ah, sweet memories.... > >Rick dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net   -- < Transmit src: poinsettia@netxn.com ID1 LCARS Channel 1 Lineout >   <YuSeEkMeAtNo31101993 http://www.netxn.com/~poinsettia/index.html>        
(back) Subject: Organs in gymnasiums From: WAYNE_BURCHAM@RSAUSA.COM Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:30:36 -0400       How the organ is winded and what type of action it has will affect the performance. The swell factor is also something to be considered. But = this is true for any size organ whether one finds it in a gymnasium, temple or = church.         DRAWKNOB@aol.com on 06/21/99 08:14:08 PM   Please respond to "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org>   To: pipechat@pipechat.org cc: (bcc: WAYNE BURCHAM/NYOM/ROYAL-SSD) Subject: Re: organs in gyms         Hmmm, I've always loved large organs in gymns... :-)   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org                
(back) Subject: Re: Organ playing in the Swiss From: Copeman Hart & Company Ltd <info@copemanhart.co.uk> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:06:25 +0100   Han,   If you are going to be in or near Lugano, and want to try a Copeman Hart organ (with an Italian flavour, as this is on the border with Italy), = there is one in the new Catholic Church in Pregassona - La Chiesa dei Santi Giovanni Battista e Massimiliano Kolbe. Please contact me (at <info@copemanhart.co.uk>) if you would like to be put in touch with = someone who can arrange access. This organ (with specification) is featured on our web site:   http://www.copemanhart.co.uk   Click on 'Copeman Hart Installations' and you will find it listed there.   With best wishes,   Cheryl       http://www.copemanhart.co.uk Email: info@copemanhart.co.uk   COPEMAN HART & COMPANY LTD Finedon Road IRTHLINGBOROUGH Northamptonshire, England, NN9 5TZ   Registered in England No 696548   Tel: 01933 652600 Fax: 01933 652288 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ COPEMAN HART AMERICA Email Cpmnhartus@aol.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ COPEMAN HART AUSTRALIA Email hamilton.stives@bigpond.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~    
(back) Subject: Raleigh, NC From: WAYNE_BURCHAM@RSAUSA.COM Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:19:51 -0400       Hi List,   I will be flying from NYC to Raleigh, NC next week as a volunteer for the Special Olympics from Tues. eve. 6/29 through Fri. morn. 7/02. While I = will not have much free time, are there any "must see/hear" instruments in the = area? Thursday afternoon and evening 7/01 will probably be my only free time. = If you have information of general interest to The List, please respond to = pipechat. You may also use my office: wayne_burcham@rsausa.com or home: = waynejoe50@aol.com   Thanks.        
(back) Subject: organs in gyms From: KriderSM@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:33:39 EDT     I recently stated wrongly:   >> The 32 footers reverb forever, I am told!   ScottFop@aol.comrecently corrected me thusly:   >Oh now THAT'S fun! The LIU Wurly doesn't HAVE any 32's.   I stand corrected! Thanks Scott, but I can dream... ;-)   Stan Krider  
(back) Subject: Melgaard/National Anthem From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:40:20 -0500   I don't have the actual stoplist for the (old stadium ) Barton, but it is the equivilent of ten 7-rank instruments --which means duplication that won't stop. Here is a rough compilation on the instrument -- 1) Six or seven Tibias 2) Two diapasons 3) Two 25+ACI- post horns 4) Six or seven strings 5) Two xylophones 6) Two Glockenspiels 7) 12 Snare drums 8) 6 bass drums 9) 2 Stentorphones 10) 2 Diaphones 11) Tower chimes/ 9 lb. mallets   Many more stuff I can't recall. A newspaper article likened it to 25 marching brass bands playing simultaniously. On the Replica label, Al plays +ACI-Stormy Weather+ACI-. The thunder sheet = and diaphones at the end of the piece will make one wet ones' pants.   Rick dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net        
(back) Subject: organs in gyms From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:45:51 -0500   No 32s at LIU, but the Sydney (Aus.) Town Hall monster has a 64 Trombone -full length I understand.   Rick dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net        
(back) Subject: Re: organs in gyms From: David Scribner <david@blackiris.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:10:26 -0500   At 7:45 AM -0500 6/22/99, VEAGUE wrote: >No 32s at LIU, but the Sydney (Aus.) Town Hall monster has a 64 >Trombone -full length I understand.   But that isn't a gym although it does have the only full length 64' reed = in the world. The other 64', which is a Diaphone, is in the Atlantic City Convention Hall, a multi-purpose room which has hosted football, basketball, boxing, etc. Not a dedicated gym but has been used as such along with numerous other uses.   David  
(back) Subject: 64' full-length From: WAYNE_BURCHAM@RSAUSA.COM Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:43:22 -0400       At 7:45 AM -0500 6/22/99, VEAGUE wrote: >No 32s at LIU, but the Sydney (Aus.) Town Hall monster has a 64 >Trombone -full length I understand.   But that isn't a gym although it does have the only full length 64' reed = in the world. The other 64', which is a Diaphone, is in the Atlantic City Convention Hall, a multi-purpose room which has hosted football, basketball, boxing, etc. Not a dedicated gym but has been used as such along with numerous other uses.   David     When I played for some convention in the late 70's at the Minneapolis Auditorium, I recall that the organ had a full-length 32' flue and 64' Resultant, but, alas, no full-length 64'. For those of you that have ever = heard a full-length 64' reed or flue, can you describe the sound? Is it correct = that a 64' would be 8 cycles/second? As an addendum, has a full-length 128' = ever existed? Would the undulations resemble an earthquake and cause the = building to collapse? Just wondering.   Wayne      
(back) Subject: lyrics search.... From: Carlo Pietroniro <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:08:30 EDT   greetings,   does anyone have the words to "O Sacred Heart, O Love Devine" =   and the wedding verses to "Mother at Thy Feet is Kneeling"? These are 2 REALLY old catholic songs and finding the words is getting harder with = each passing year. Thanks in advance.   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: 64 -foot earthquakes From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:21:41 -0500   When the movie +ACI-Earthquake+ACI- debuted in California in the 60s, it = played at a theatre where the organs' Diaphones were used for tremors.   Rick dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net        
(back) Subject: Fw: George Wright From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:24:14 -0500   Does anyone know anything about Mr. Wrights adopted son? I was surprised = to read where he had one. Private me if you wish.   Rick V. dutchorgan@svs.net   -----Original Message----- From: Wm. G. Chapman <wchapmn@ibm.net> To: VEAGUE <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 9:04 AM Subject: Re: George Wright     >On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:18:07 -0500, VEAGUE wrote: > >>Mr. >>Wright leaves behind, one adopted son. > >Now dead. > >Grant >      
(back) Subject: Re: Melgaard/National Anthem From: "jchabermaas" <opus1100@theatreorgans.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:20:11 -0500     -----Original Message----- From: Matthew J. Baker <poinsettia@netxn.com>Subject: Re: = Melgaard/National Anthem     >Does anyone have/know of a specification or stoplist of the [late] >Chicago Stadium Barton?   A complete stop list of this organ along with chamber analysis can be = found in Dave Junchen's Encyclopedia of the American Theatre Organ VOL I     The organ had six manuals and hundreds of stop tablets. The stops were grouped in Ensemble stops which brought = on groups of ranks and individual stop for individual ranks. The list is pages long and will take' some effort to reproduce it all. The organ as others have pointed out had four individual chamber (under the roof) which spoke down into the stadium. Each chamber had basically the same makeup of ranks so that it the sound = was distributed equally throughout the hall. The promoter who built the stadium, Paddy Harmon, chose Barton because = they had solved a problem for him at his ballroom on the westside. Don't ask = why, but the ballroom was located under the "L" tracks of the Metropolitan Westside Elevated Railway and when a train went over the dancers could not hear the = orchestra. Barton put in an organ with two identical chambers (same ranks in each) at opposite ends of the ballroom. Harmon employed a spotter to sit up on the roof and telephone down when a train was approaching and the organist would then play along with the orchestra. Dancers could either hear the organ or the orchestra and therefore didn't miss a beat. The Stadium Barton was built with the same tonal scheme, Identical chambers to distribute the sound throughout the building.   The accounting of Al Melgard and the National Anthem is described on one = of the first Replica Hi-Fi records that Melgard recorded on the organ. It was one of a half dozen Melgard recordings. Melgard's quick thinking ended the melee and he was promised a lifetime position. Melgard was pleasantly surprised as = he thought was going to be fired for breaking all the light bulbs.   An article describing the Stadium Barton appeared in the February 1, 1929 issue of the Diapason. According the article the console has six manuals and 828 stop keys, 51 sets of pipes, seventeen percussions and a drum section consisting of six bass drums, twelve snare drums, and six cymbals, also three crash cymbals. The organ is powered by a 100 HP Orgoblo and the lowest pressure on the organ is fifteen inches. The Cathedral Chimes have been adapted from Deagan = Tower Chimes each struck by a nine pound hammar operating on fifteen inch wind pressure.   It is a shame that the individuals responsible for the new arena, The = United Center proved to be so short sighted and failed to preserve this unique = instrument. I understand initial plans for the building did include the organ, but it = was decided not to include it. Bill Wirtz announced at a press conference that the new building would have a bigger and better organ. A noble effort was made by several individuals headed by Bob Ropollo to save the organ and it was removed and stored for = a future installation. Unfortunately the tragic fire in the Phoenix = warehouse spelled the end of the Stadium Barton except for the console which is now in Las Vegas.   Hope this helps give you some insight in what the Stadium Organ was about.   regards,   Jon      
(back) Subject: Re: lyrics search.... From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:34:59 -0700   Carlo, I'll look ... St. Basil is locked up in the choir room at church. = Maybe if whoever had him in the basement will let him out, he might be able to = help us (grin).   Cheers,   Bud   Carlo Pietroniro wrote:   > greetings, > > does anyone have the words to "O Sacred Heart, O Love = Devine" > and the wedding verses to "Mother at Thy Feet is Kneeling"? These are 2 > REALLY old catholic songs and finding the words is getting harder with = each > passing year. Thanks in advance. > > Carlo > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: organs in gyms From: "Rick \"OrganPlayer\" Locher" <rick.locher@gte.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:42:49 -0500   I attended Concordia Teacher's College (today it's known as Concordia University) in the late 60's early 70's and the gym doubled as a Chapel. There was a pipe organ located in the corner of the balcony totally = encased by wire mesh to protect it from ??? R.L.   It's just like what the guy said who kissed the cow: "It's all a matter of taste!" ----- Original Message ----- From: VEAGUE <dutchorgan@svs.net> To: e-mail organ chat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 7:39 PM Subject: Fw: organs in gyms     > Tempting, but I'll leave it alone............ > > -----Original Message----- > From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> > To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Date: Monday, June 21, 1999 7:16 PM > Subject: Re: organs in gyms > > > >Hmmm, I've always loved large organs in gymns... :-) > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: organs in gyms From: ROBIN88866@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:15:11 EDT   In a message dated 99-06-21 17:28:38 EDT, you write:   << Oh now THAT'S fun! The LIU Wurly doesn't HAVE any 32's. >>     It doesn't NEED them.     Robin  
(back) Subject: SAVE THE AUSTIN? From: Frank Johnson <usd465@hit.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:17:03 -0500 (CDT)   Several months I posted information about a small Austin 2/4 organ in a now closed college. Below is current situation which needs immediate attention. One question.....not having pipe racks, is there another suggested method of moving/storing the pipes? Please respond (privately = if you wish) quickly if you have suggestions!       SAVE THE AUSTIN?   Well the time has come. Last night contract was signed for the renovation of Meyer Hall. That is where the Austin 2/4 (two manuel, four rank) organ is located. After about three years of waiting, the contractors have the keys and will start in the basement where the Austin is TOMORROW morning (June 23). If we don't get it out, it will be destroyed with the renovation of the building. Here is my thinking. We need to get the pipes out first. (We have no pipe trays here) They will need to be numbered and stored. What is = the best way to number the pipes? The console is the second concern and the contractors seem willing to try and move the console around to "preserve" it if possible. If we can get the pipes out, the console would be the = next item. The chest, which will be impossible to remove in one piece, is the least of our concerns. I know the cable should be marked and NOT cut. I assume we should mark the console end? The other end is extremely hard to get to.   Help/Suggestions PLEASE!   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) usd465@horizon.hit.net 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader http://www.hit.net/~usd465/ 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156      
(back) Subject: Re: SAVE THE AUSTIN? From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:44:01 EDT   Pipe trays (not racks) can be made very easily, rectangular very shallow = box, 6 in high or so, 2X6 or 2X8 size is convenient, hand holds if desired near =   all 4 corners, tempered masonite bottom or quarter inch plywood of = cheapest grade, lay pipes in from longest to shortest and then can put another = layer sitting on top of the first layer. The convenient width of 2 feet allows 2 =   trays to be carried in a pickup of bed size of 4X8. In my opinion, no need to "label" pipes,,they already are! Take a look at one pipe, should give the pitch, what rank it is and = sometimes the opus number, and other information. Pretty hard to mix them up,,each length is different. The universal wind chest comes apart, and probably should, at least to = renew the sealing materials on sides and top. Use an electric screwdriver,,,it staves off the tunnel carpal syndrome after thousands of screws <G> Same advice as several months ago Frank,,,good luck,,the Austin should be saved. Perhaps others have other ways of doing these tasks, I am always looking = for easier ways,-- it happens when you get older!!!! Cheers, ---Roc  
(back) Subject: query--Hilgreen-Lane Opus List From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:50:55 EDT   Hi list--- Does anyone on the list have any idea if the corporate records and = opus number list for the Hilgreen-Lane Company still exists? And, if so, how = can they be accessed? I have come accross 2 very strange (to me) chests that by elimination =   seem to be Hilgreen-Lane design, and probably early in this century. The = opus number on the chests is #397, and the pedal bourdon pipes each say Exeter School,,,this curious mind needs to know more. Thanks for any and all help------ ---Roc  
(back) Subject: Re: SAVE THE AUSTIN? From: Ron Yost <musik@tcsn.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:02:18 -0700   One little suggestion .. no need to take time you don't have numbering pipes .. especially in a 'small' four-rank organ. They don't need to be kept in order and can be sorted out later. Just get them out to a safe place. :-)   It shouldn't take much time to make four pipe trays, however. The time they'll save over toting out pipes in threes-and-fours will be more than compensated. (Unless you have LOTS of helpers.)   If you can't find anything else, put a few layers of newspaper between the pipes in the tray. I'd also not worry about having tops for the trays right now.   If there is a reed rank, be careful where the resonator is soldered to the reed block. If they're going to break, that's usually where it happens, IME.   Quick is not a good way, but sometimes it's the only way. You may wind up with a few dings and such, but at least you'll have saved them!   Best of luck to you!!     Ron Yost  
(back) Subject: Re: SAVE THE AUSTIN? From: Ron Yost <musik@tcsn.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:21:09 -0700   Four (4) quick pipe trays:   2 4'x8'x1/4" plywood .. ripped in half at the lumberyard to yield four 2'x8' tray bottoms.   10 2"x6"x8-ft. hem-fir, pine, or whatever is cheapest in your neck of the woods. :-) 8 of them will be the sides of your trays. Have the yard cut two of them into 21" long pieces (four from each 8'). These are the tray-ends.   Nail together and, presto, almost instant pipe trays.   If you can't maneuver 8-ft. trays, make them 6-ft. instead.     Ron Yost  
(back) Subject: Re: SAVE THE AUSTIN? From: Frank Johnson <usd465@hit.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:43:51 -0500 (CDT)   >One little suggestion .. no need to take time you >don't have numbering pipes .. especially in a 'small' >four-rank organ. They don't need to be kept in order >and can be sorted out later. Just get them out to a >safe place. :-)   Thank you very much. I can see that now. We do have a safe, dry place to store them.   >It shouldn't take much time to make four pipe trays, >however. The time they'll save over toting out >pipes in threes-and-fours will be more than compensated. >(Unless you have LOTS of hel   We have the offer of pipe trays from a man several hours away. He is willing to meet us part way tomorrow night with the trays.     >If you can't find anything else, put a few layers >of newspaper between the pipes in the tray.   Good suggestion.     >If there is a reed rank, be careful where the resonator >is soldered to the reed block. If they're going to >break, that's usually where it happens, IME.     Thank you so much for your concern and suggestions. Following find the organ specs.   The four ranks are:   Open Diapason Gedeckt Viole Dulciana   Here is the stop list:   Pedal: Bourdon 16' Contra Dolce 16' Open Diapason 8' Gedeckt 8' Viole 8' Dulciana 8' Octave 4' Flute 4'   Swell 4 presets Contra Dolce 16' Gedeckt 8' Viole 8 Dulciana 8' Flute D'Amour 4' Violin 4' Dulcet 4' Quintette 2 2/3' Flautina 2' Tremolo   Great 4 presets Bourdon 16' Open Diapason 8' Gedeckt 8' Viole 8' Dulciana 8' Octave 4' Flute D'Amour 4' Violin 4' Dulcet 4' Flautina 4'   I have several pictures. If anyone would like, I'll send them as an attachment to your e-mail address.   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader http://www.hit.net/~usd465/ 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156      
(back) Subject: Re: SAVE THE AUSTIN? From: Frank Johnson <usd465@hit.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:47:05 -0500 (CDT)   >Four (4) quick pipe trays: > >2 4'x8'x1/4" plywood .. ripped in half at the lumberyard to yield > four 2'x8' tray bottoms. > >10 2"x6"x8-ft. hem-fir, pine, or whatever is cheapest in your > neck of the woods. :-) > 8 of them will be the sides of your trays. Have the yard cut > two of them into 21" long pieces (four from each 8'). These > are the tray-ends. > >Nail together and, presto, almost instant pipe trays. > >If you can't maneuver 8-ft. trays, make them 6-ft. instead. >   Once again, thank you. I have saved every post I've received about the organ dating back to January.   Frank   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader http://www.hit.net/~usd465/ 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156      
(back) Subject: Re: SAVE THE AUSTIN? From: Tim Bovard <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:59:28 -0500   At 6/22/99 02:17 PM, you wrote: > Here is my thinking. We need to get the pipes out first. (We have >no pipe trays here) They will need to be numbered and stored. What is = the >best way to number the pipes? The console is the second concern and the >contractors seem willing to try and move the console around to "preserve" >it if possible. If we can get the pipes out, the console would be the = next >item. The chest, which will be impossible to remove in one piece, is the >least of our concerns. I know the cable should be marked and NOT cut. I >assume we should mark the console end? The other end is extremely hard to >get to. > >Help/Suggestions PLEASE! >   Dear Frank,   I agree with you that the pipes are the 1st priority. There have already been several suggestions, with which I concur. Probably also correct in that the console should be second. As much as it pains me to suggest such a thing, I think I would probably cut the cable. Presuming the organ does end up eventually finding a new home, chances are that it would need recabled, anyway. (there's not usually great success with re-using old double-cotton-covered organ cables, anyway -- once you distress (read: move) them, they tend to become VERY problematic with runs, etc.) Also, it occurs to me that there will probably be more time available to reassemble the instrument in the future than there is to remove it in the present. The good aspect of this -- it's only 4 ranks -- therefore not THAT much rewiring to do it all!! Make sure that junction boards are marked as to their disposition, and that DC junctions are labeled for polarity. Then, get out the trusty hacksaw, and wince appropriately as = you cut it free. The time saved not 'unwiring' everything (a tedious process...) can be put to good use saving the chestwork.   I wish you the best of luck in saving the little Austin, and in finding a new home for it. Please continue to keep us informed as to your progress.   Regards, Tim      
(back) Subject: Re: TO LIST OWNER From: Rev.Ed <edwardorgan@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:14:59 PDT         Bud/burgie >How do I set my e-mail so as not to receive further postings from Bruce >Cornely?   I would you suggest that you obtain www.hotmail.com and switch you PIP-ORG = L account to the hotmail. Hotmail has a "Block Sender" that allows you to select certain addresses to go straight into the trash can.   This self-righteous organist has also offended me with his cruel and unecessary sarcasm. He was block sended from my account Long Ago and I = have been much happier.   Rev E.D.   PS. If he tries to respond to me, I'll never recieve it.                               _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com  
(back) Subject: Re: SAVE THE AUSTIN?- console unwiring. From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 18:28:39 EDT   I agree 100 percent with you Tim,,,,if I read my NEC code book = correctly,,the move of that organ will necessitate the re-wiring of it any way. Cheers, ---Roc  
(back) Subject: Re: SAVE THE AUSTIN?- console unwiring. From: Frank Johnson <usd465@hit.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:41:36 -0500 (CDT)   >I agree 100 percent with you Tim,,,,if I read my NEC code book = correctly,,the >move of that organ will necessitate the re-wiring of it any way. >Cheers, >---Roc   Thank you for you input. We are really trying to save the instrument. and time is of the essence!   Frank   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader http://www.hit.net/~usd465/ 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156      
(back) Subject: Save the Austin From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:58:42 -0500   Many an organ was removed while the wrecking ball was winding up for the pitch.   Best of luck to you all --sincerely.   Rick dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net