PipeChat Digest #960 - Monday, June 28, 1999
 
Re: Fw: Today's Service.
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Today's Service
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Pipes for sale
  by "Rick \"OrganPlayer\" Locher" <rick.locher@gte.net>
Live (more or less) from Worcester-X Posted
  by <ManderUSA@aol.com>
Re: Top 5 Organ Pieces.....
  by "Mark Huth" <mhuth@rodgers.rain.com>
Electronics vs Pipe
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
Relative dependability, was  Electronics vs Pipe
  by "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@worldnet.att.net>
Re: Relative dependability
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: OT -  Leslie 100 - Free
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Bellows saftey
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Electronics vs Pipe
  by "Russell Greene" <russg@cyberspc.mb.ca>
Variations, etc...
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
MacDowell Transcriptions
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
RE: Bellows saftey
  by "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@worldnet.att.net>
Fw: Bellows saftey
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Fw: MacDowell Transcriptions
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Bellows saftey
  by <Musmachns@aol.com>
Relative Dependability
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Fw: Bellows saftey
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: Variations, etc...
  by <snyder@skyenet.net>
Electronics vs Pipe
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: Electronics vs Pipe
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Today's Service. From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 05:32:06 EDT   In a message dated 6/27/99 11:08:33 PM Central Daylight Time, dutchorgan@svs.net writes:   << Where do I sign up??!! >>   And do we get to sin with our organs?   LOL    
(back) Subject: Today's Service From: KriderSM@aol.com Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 06:44:49 EDT   Richard Pinel recently informed us:   <snip> The service was like nothing I have ever seen: It was basically sing pray read sin pray sermon prayers! <snip>   ....read sin pray sermon...? I trust that is a typo... otherwise it would = be like any other church... Hehehe.   Stan Krider  
(back) Subject: Pipes for sale From: "Rick \"OrganPlayer\" Locher" <rick.locher@gte.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:05:07 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0029_01BEC13C.EFCADAC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Good morning list! I have 2 ranks for sale: a 4' Octave, 61 pipes; an = =3D 8' Vox Humana 61 pipes. Both are voiced on 4" w.p. The Vox is from the = =3D Lyon & Healy organ that was in Orchestra Hall in Chicago. You may contact me privately at: rick.locher@gte.net     It's just like what the guy said who kissed the cow: "It's all a matter of taste!"   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0029_01BEC13C.EFCADAC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3401" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><STRONG>Good morning list!&nbsp; I = have =3D 2 ranks for=3D20 sale:&nbsp; a 4' Octave, 61 pipes;&nbsp; an 8' Vox Humana 61 =3D pipes.&nbsp; Both=3D20 are voiced on 4" w.p.&nbsp; The Vox is from the Lyon &amp; Healy organ =3D that was=3D20 in Orchestra Hall in Chicago.</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><STRONG>You may contact me privately=3D20 at:</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial><STRONG><A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:rick.locher@gte.net">rick.locher@gte.net</A></STRONG></FON= =3D T></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It's just like what the guy said who = =3D kissed the=3D20 cow:<BR>"It's all a matter of taste!"</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0029_01BEC13C.EFCADAC0--    
(back) Subject: Live (more or less) from Worcester-X Posted From: ManderUSA@aol.com Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:10:52 EDT   Dear Lists,   Instead of the ritual post-church Sunday afternoon nap, I drove the 130 = miles to Worcester, Massachusetts for the opening of the Region 1 Regional Convention, and what a grand opening it was, if a somewhat warm one. I = have twice visited the chapel of Holy Cross College in Worcester, drawn = obviously by the magnificent Taylor and Boody organ. No word less than magnificent = can adequately describe this organbuilding monument, a four-manual mechanical instrument dedicated on Bach's 300th birthday, March 21, 1985, and looking = as wonderful as it sounds. It's one of those instruments whose scaling, = voicing, finishing, placement, encasement, all conspire to bring the sound of every =   pipe gently but firmly to one's ears, no matter where one is seated.   Tonight's program was billed as the convention's Opening Convocation and Concert, with James David Christie on his home territory, and the choir of =   Boston's Church of the Advent under the direction of Edith Ho, assisted by =   Mark Dwyer. In the west gallery were the Paramount Brass, who, with Jim Christie at the organ, brilliantly played the procession of chapter deans = and other dignitaries down the aisle with Cantate Domino of Hieronymus Praetorius. After that came my only disappointment of the evening. We sang =   the wonderful tune "Rendez a Dieu" in unison throughout. A chapel full of organists, and we were allowed no harmony! Well, it has to be said that it =   was a pretty exciting unison, and in a very warm and resonant space! We = were then well and truly welcomed, first by Lois Toeppner, Convention = Coordinator, who also brought us greetings from the governor of the state and the mayor = of Worcester. Lois was followed by Victoria Wagner, Region 1 Councillor, who = in turn was followed by John Chappell Stowe, national vice president of the Guild. Good speeches all.   Then followed an intricate little exercise which worked beautifully, = partly thanks to a very clearly-organized printed program, a very effective = cantor, drawn from the Advent choir, and the fact that we were all such smart musicians! The cantor began by singing the first line of Magnificat (in Latin), this to the beautiful ninth tone (Tonus Peregrinus), so often associated with Magnificat, and then the pattern began. Jim Christie = played the first of five Magnificat versets by Samuel Scheidt (Et exultavit). = Guided by the very clear and expressive conducting of the cantor (NO MICROPHONE, = of course!), we then followed with Quia respexit, followed by another verset from the organ, continuing in this way until we sang the final Gloria, followed by Scheidt: Sicut erat. Each Scheidt verset was a splendid study = in word-painting, and they were wonderfully registered and played with excitement and clarity. I would say "Don't try this at home," but with a = near perfect room, filled with experienced musicians, it worked really well - a =   most moving little spiritual exercise. By the way, a very nice touch: in = the printed program for this evening in our fine convention book, and in other =   programs throughout the book, where possible, and where a work is not very =   familiar and in many editions, a publisher is listed, in red, beneath the title. Thank you, someone.   I have never heard the Advent choir, but have known something of what they =   do, and the skill and style with which they do it. They were about 20 = strong (I forgot to count), including one blind lady who marched up the aisle in procession with her guide dog.This is a youthful choir, but fully mature vocally, and entirely sensitive to Edith Ho's very minimal conducting. = Said simply, they are wonderful. They sang the Kyrie and Gloria from the Dufay Mass, "Se la face ay pale."   Then, back to the organ, with four charming 16th century dance movements = by Suzanne van Soldt, from Monumenta Musica Neerlanica III, and the Buxtehude =   Praeludium in G Minor (BuxWV 148). Then followed something of a memory for =   me. Jim played a Ciaconna in B flat Major by Johann Bernhard Bach, which I =   heard him do once before, in Baltimore, on a very small two-manual = instrument with few resources. There are LOTS of variations - I now wish I had = counted. In Baltimore, with only two manuals, and not a lot of variety anyway, time =   was needed between variations, which served to lengthen the whole = exercise. Between the fact of the very short and simple harmonic pattern of the Ciaconna subject, and, it has to be said, the rather first-year-theory-exercise nature of the variations, in Baltimore, it = began to strike the funny bones of the audience, so that as variation piled on variation, there were suppressed (more-or-less) giggles everywhere, and a great release of laughter at the end. Here, at Holy Cross, with four = manuals, and lots of registration possibilities, carefully and brilliantly = exploited, and no space between the variations, there were only a few signs of mirth that could be heard near where I was sitting. I was in full control! Then followed the Buxtehude Praeludium in D Minor, VuxWV 140.   The choir came forward once again for three passionate and = passionately-sung works of Francisco Guerrero (1528-1599). First, Ave Virgo sanctissima (SSATB), conducted by Edith Ho. Then Mark Dwyer, long-time assistant at = The Advent, conducted three sections of Missa "De la Batalla escoutez," also SSATB, beginning with the Sanctus and Benedictus, followed by Agnus Dei 1, =   this followed by the SSAATTBB final Agnus Dei. I love these thick-textured =   works, certainly when sung as beautifully as was the case here. One more SSAATTBB Guerrero work, a Regina Coeli, was conducted by Edith Ho.   What followed was simply labelled "Special Presentation" in the program. = What it turned out to be was the awarding by Boston Conservatory of Music of an =   honorary doctorate to Marie Claire Alain. Jim Christie (an Alain student), = in a warm, wonderful, gracious and witty speech, spoke of Marie Claire's = amazing accomplishments - the huge number of recordings, of concerts played throughout the world, and of her immense influence on organists = everywhere. Then, with other members of the conservatory faculty and administration, a =   hood was placed over her shoulders, and we were graced with a short and = sweet speech of thanks, obviously heart-felt. Too immense applause and a = standing ovation, Madame Alain returned to her seat. In the west gallery, the = totally brilliant Paramount Brass played Canzon ad imitationem Bergamasca of = Samuel Scheidt, as the long procession moved out of the chapel.   I hope I have conveyed some of the excitement and beauty of this opening event of the convention. It was hot as Hell itself (I think) in the = chapel, which caused those who arrived a bit early to enjoy an unscheduled = prelude, the tuning of reeds! But thoughts of the heat moved far into the = background in the beauty this event. All hats off to James David Christie, Edith Ho = and Mark Dwyer and the Church of the Advent Choir, The Paramount Brass, Taylor =   and Boody, and Holy Cross College for its wisdom in creating a wonderful building, commissioning a superb instrument, and then supporting a = musician and program to go with it. The Worcester chapter has worked very hard on = this convention - the publicity has been magnificent, going back at least a = year, and longer - and I have no doubt of how they feel at seeing this chapel packed with organists from all over the region, and from other parts of = the country as well. I know listmember Will Scarboro made the trip all the way =   from Florida. So, there you have it - a great beginning!   Malcolm Wechsler Mander Organs, Ltd. www.mander-organs.com          
(back) Subject: Re: Top 5 Organ Pieces..... From: "Mark Huth" <mhuth@rodgers.rain.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:49:58 PST       Carlo:   Interesting question:   In no particular order, my top five would be:   Passacaglia and Fugue in c minor - Bach Choral I in E Major - Franck Sonata on the 94th Psalm - Reubke Prelude and Fugue in b minor - Bach Symphony VI - Vierne     I'd be interested to find out what my choices are 10 years from now.     Mark       Mark Huth Rodgers Instruments, LLC mhuth@rodgers.rain.com http://www.rodgersinstruments.com   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D   Shaquille O'Neal, on his lack of championships: 'I've won at every level, except college and pro.'    
(back) Subject: Electronics vs Pipe From: "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:35:12 -0400   NOW LET'S NOT GET BACK INTO ANOTHER FLAME WAR!!!!!   I got called by my organ teacher friday night, and she was called by another one of her students who plays at the First Baptist Church (on the square). Their two manual/pedalboards early Allen digital computer organ was making a helicopter sound when you turn it on and turn some stops on. Well, that is something else that is beyond me, but that's not what I was going to say. I heard some wood from the facade shaking, so I tried finding my way up to the speaker chamber. I got lost in the building trying to find my way up only to find out there was a trap door in the ceiling behind the altar. I pushed many layers on insulation aside and looked up. I say a wooden box with some magnets and wires on the side. I down at my fatherand said, "Holy %&$@, there is a pipe organ up here!" I climbed up higher and found a switch. Turned it on and looked directly into a division of a pipe organ. turned around and was face to face with a wall of pedal pipes. I was like a child in a candy store. I crawled under the windchests and read the stops that were written on the ventil chests. "Trumpet, Cornet, Aeoline, Vio'D'Orc, Dulciana, Octave, Twelfth, Principal, Principal, Open, Bourdon, Ft. Harm." There were no pipes in the chest and the Cornet and Trumpet sections of the chest were missing. It looks like most parts of the organ are there and intact. Reservoirs, stop action, chest, a couple swell engines laying on the floor, metal wind lines for facade pipes were lying on the chest. The swell shades for the Gt. Chest (I think) were missing, but the coupling bar was there. I didn't look any further than the first section of the organ (Gt. possibly), but it looks like it could have been a three manual organ. The ceiling in the back of the church has a couple of grates stuffed with insulation. Maybe there was an Echo organ too. There was one door above the Sanctuary that I couldn't open, locked. It was right above the balcony, where the Echo organ could be. (grin)   Well, I'll probably not get any more sleep tonight either because I've got myself thinking about this and wondering where the pipes have gone.   However, when Allen installed the electronic, they put that fiberboard up on some 1x lumber and screwed it to the swell boxes. They put a thick felt around the fiberboard and some very dumd looking wood facade "things" (pipes) on the front and painted them blue.   But, if they had the pipe organ, they could have used it yesterday for church instead of the baby grand piano. They had NOTHING playable. Now I'm going to throw this line in just for MY opinion. If something goes wrong with an electronic organ, the entire organ is unplayable, but is something goes wrong with a pipe organ, you just don't have a pipe or rank, or something that you could work around for a week or so until it could be fixed. They have NO organ for the next month or so.   DON'T START A WAR WITH THIS NOW!!!!!!! IF YOU CAN'T SAY SOMETHING NICE, DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL!!!!!!!     Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ Organist/Choir Director | | 2/22 M.P. Moller pipe organ O ~20 member choir   ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.  
(back) Subject: Relative dependability, was Electronics vs Pipe From: "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:23:08 -0700   > However, when Allen installed the electronic, . . .   OOOO! Flame war! Only kidding. Speaking as a new digital organ dealer, = I think I should say the way this organ was installed was sacriledge. Apparently there was a pipe organ in the church that may have needed a bit of maintenance to make it work right, but some salesman with the ethics of = a trash compactor rammed a new electronic down their throats. This is not = the way to do business. I wasn't there when the decision was made, but based = on what Jason reported, I might consider donating a gallon of tar and a pound of feathers for the salesman.   > If something goes > wrong with an electronic organ, the entire organ is unplayable, but is > something goes wrong with a pipe organ, you just don't have a pipe or > rank, or something that you could work around for a week or so until it > could be fixed.   A true statement if you consider a small, totally tracker, hand-pumped = organ with a non-electric action or non-electronic relay, but when you introduce electricity and electronics into the pipe organ, the entire instrument = could be "felled" by a failure in one of the key electric or electronic components. A pipe organ with an electronic relay could be silenced just = as effectivly by a stray lightening bolt as any electronic. Also, the blower could be stopped by burnt out brushes, also silencing the organ.   I have also seen where an entire organ was rendered unplayable when a = major reseviour spung a leak.   On the other hand, I have had cases where a portion of an electronic was out, but the rest worked. My AOB had several problems with the combo action, making the combo unusable. All I did was switch the combo action off, and continue to play. Or, if one manual goes out, the other may = still be available. There are many electronic organs out there not fully operational, but still working.   Unfortunate fact of life -- any device conceived by the mind of man can = and will fail at some time. Look at parachutes, for example.   Dennis Goward        
(back) Subject: Re: Relative dependability From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:41:22 -0700   Dennis makes a FINE argument for NOT cluttering up pipe organs with = electronic components. With a little TLC, the remote capture (electro-pneumatic) combination action on the huge Skinner at Yale still functions just fine.   He also makes a good argument for the older analog electronic organs ... = if the Great amp blew on my old Rodgers, I still had the Swell and Pedal, and = could play the service. I don't know how independent things are on the newer = digital instruments. When the mighty Hammond/Suzuki fails, it usually ALL fails.   Sometimes I think we INVENT situations so we can talk ourselves into = needing X number of levels of memory and X number of pistons. I keep pleading for = folks to go back to the LITERATURE, and the ORGANS that played it (and are still = playing it).   St. Sulpice in Paris is 102 stops on five manuals and pedals; it has TWO = (count 'em) adjustable combinations (I think), plus the ventils. The big = Schnitger at Zwolle is a large four-manual organ with NO combination action whatsoever. Nothing cleans up one's playing of Bach like NOT having a bunch of buttons = to play with (grin).   Practically the ONLY serious literature that REQUIRES lots of pistons is = the American School ... Sowerby, David McKay Williams, Titcomb, etc. ... is = there REALLY enough of that to justify $10K (or more) for a state-of-the-art solid-state combination action with multiple memories, sequencer, etc.?   Sure I'm biased ... I grew up on tracker and tubular pneumatic organs that = had no combination action, and I learned to get around on them. Flat = pedal-boards don't bother me either (grin).   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: OT - Leslie 100 - Free From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:58:31 -0500   Is it still available?   John V      
(back) Subject: Bellows saftey From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:50:51 EDT   Can anyone help me?   Is it safe to step on the bellows (while the organ is off)? In order for = me to access the swell chamber I'll have to step right on top of them -- = there's no other way to go and my legs are too darn short to avoid stepping on the =   bellows.   Thanks,   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Electronics vs Pipe From: "Russell Greene" <russg@cyberspc.mb.ca> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:57:51 -0500   As Jason rightly says:   > NOW LET'S NOT GET BACK INTO ANOTHER FLAME WAR!!!!!   BUT, his statement:   > If something goes > wrong with an electronic organ, the entire organ is unplayable, but is > something goes wrong with a pipe organ, you just don't have a pipe or > rank, or something that you could work around for a week or so until it > could be fixed.   is just plain inaccurate.   Many faults which can occur in either type of organ will leave the bulk of the instrument playable, e.g. key contact faults, ciphers, switching problems and the like may leave you without a given note or rank.   Other faults, in either case, may render the entire instrument unplayable, e.g. the computer blows out or the blower motor expires.   In my own experience, the electronic organs I have been responsible for = have been more reliable, both in the small ways and the large ones, than the = pipe organs - mainly Casavant EP's. The reliability record in Winnipeg is interesting: the Allen dealer here (no, I'm not affiliated in any way) is able to say with some pride that since he opened in 1971, he has never = once had a church unable to use their organ for even a single service. None of the pipe organ builders represented here can make that claim.   Russ Greene    
(back) Subject: Variations, etc... From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:53:05 EDT   Does anyone know of any decent variations, preludes, fugues, etc... on = these hymn tunes REPTON and DOWN AMPHNEY?   Thanks,   John  
(back) Subject: MacDowell Transcriptions From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:06:57 -0700   I'm still on a quest ... I need Vols. 1 and 3 of the Schmidt series, published around the turn of the century. I have Vol. 2 ... lots of fun, and not all that easy in some places.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: RE: Bellows saftey From: "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:21:11 -0700   > there's > no other way to go and my legs are too darn short to avoid > stepping on the > bellows. >   John, you call yourself an organist and you can't levitate? Gad, another chink in our armor!   What's the possibility of maybe two small stepladders (one on either side = of the bellows) with a healthy plank laid across the ladders like a scaffold? Any room for something like that?   I don't know if the bellows could stand the weight of a man on it, but something in me just cringes at the thought of standing on one.   Dennis Goward    
(back) Subject: Fw: Bellows saftey From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:28:42 -0500   Tread lightly and in the middle if possible.   -----Original Message----- From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Monday, June 28, 1999 3:55 PM Subject: Bellows saftey     >Can anyone help me? > >Is it safe to step on the bellows (while the organ is off)? In order for me >to access the swell chamber I'll have to step right on top of them -- there's >no other way to go and my legs are too darn short to avoid stepping on = the >bellows. > >Thanks, > >John > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Fw: MacDowell Transcriptions From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:37:07 -0500   Then don't play those rough parts, Bud --skip around them. Heck, thats = what I do.   Rick     -----Original Message----- From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> To: organchat <organchat@onelist.com>; pipechat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Monday, June 28, 1999 4:13 PM Subject: MacDowell Transcriptions     >I'm still on a quest ... I need Vols. 1 and 3 of the Schmidt series, >published around the turn of the century. I have Vol. 2 ... lots of fun, >and not all that easy in some places. > >Cheers, > >Bud > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Bellows saftey From: Musmachns@aol.com Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:37:46 EDT   I've worked on and tuned many an instrument where things which were = important to get to were conveniently located over, under or behind something of importance. It depends on the type of reservoir you have. If it has material visible = for a few inches all around the top, definitely DON'T step on it. If it is of = the more common types where all leather and gussets fold UNDER the top so that =   just wood is seen from the top, then it should not be a problem. Grant it = I wouldn't suggest doing a jig on a reservoir, but if the company was = reputable and installed it where it MUST be stepped in, the do so but gingerly. Best advice, gently push down firmly on the top, if it doesn't budge it should be plenty safe. If it moves or wobbles, best try another route.   A. Struble  
(back) Subject: Relative Dependability From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:40:50 -0500   With all the solid-state capture systems and millions of bytes of preset memory PER ORGANIST.......... where does the coffee pot plug in?   Rick dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net        
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Bellows saftey From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:43:33 EDT   I agree with Rick, tread lightly on the top of the reservoir, no = "scruffing" around with your feet, and try to step only in the middle; hopefully the "down" bumpers, if applied, will take up the load evenly. Cheers,,,and good luck John :-) ---Roc  
(back) Subject: Re: Variations, etc... From: snyder@skyenet.net Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:54:26 -0500   and DOWN AMPHNEY? Variations on Come Down O Love Divine by Jan Bender Will have to go look up publisher ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Clarice Jane Snyder mailto:snyder@skyenet.net = http://www.skyenet.net/~snyder Check out this site: http://www.countdown9199.com/ (use #0164405) Web pages: (Music) http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/2059 (Genealogy) http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/n/y/Clarice-J-Snyder Harrison County, Indiana = http://www.rahab.net/Straub/Harr.County/surname.html    
(back) Subject: Electronics vs Pipe From: Carlo Pietroniro <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:55:47 EDT   Greetings,   it seems to me that if something goes wrong with an electronic organ, it doesn't necessarily mean that the entire organ is unplayable. I've played electronic organs where certain stops were broken, =   but the rest were fine....certain pedals were not playing, but the rest = were fine....certain gadgets were not working, but the rest were fine. I've = also played pipe organs where the entire organ was rendered unplayable due to certain things going wrong. SO, it seems that if something goes wrong with = a pipe organ, it CAN mean that you can still play it, but it depends on the problem...and if something goes wrong with an electronic organ, it CAN = mean that it's still playable, again it depends on the problem. I just wanted = to clarify something was posted by a fellow list member.   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Electronics vs Pipe From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:58:41 -0700   At 12:35 AM 6/28/1999 -0400, you wrote: >NOW LET'S NOT GET BACK INTO ANOTHER FLAME WAR!!!!! > >I got called by my organ teacher friday night, and she was called by >another one of her students who plays at the First Baptist Church (on the >square). Their two manual/pedalboards early Allen digital computer organ >was making a helicopter sound when you turn it on and turn some stops = on.<snip>   Motorboating. A coupling capacitor hath gone bad. EZ fix.   DeserTBoB