PipeChat Digest #962 - Tuesday, June 29, 1999
 
RE: George Wright's playing
  by "Charles Brown" <clmoney@cybernex.net>
Re: Bud's Post/Electronic-Pipe Reliability
  by <George.Greene@RossNutrition.com>
Re: Relative Dependability
  by "Ray Sheppard" <witsend@ovis.net>
Fw: Bud's Post/Electronic-Pipe Reliability
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Variations, etc...(Repton)
  by "Jim Zimmerman" <jrzimmer@purdue.edu>
Re: Electronics vs Pipe
  by "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com>
Re: Bud's Post/Electronic-Pipe Reliability
  by "STRAIGHT" <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net>
Beethoven Piano works
  by "Mark Huth" <mhuth@rodgers.rain.com>
Re: Variations, etc...(Repton)
  by "Mark Huth" <mhuth@rodgers.rain.com>
Raleigh, NC
  by <WAYNE_BURCHAM@RSAUSA.COM>
Re: Electronics vs Pipe
  by <dgoward@att.net>
Re: Bud's Post/Electronic-Pipe Reliability
  by <CHERCAPA@aol.com>
Re: Electronics vs Pipe
  by <CHERCAPA@aol.com>
Re: Beethoven Piano works
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Bellows saftey
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Variations, etc...(Repton)
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Disney organ
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Today's Service
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Today's Service.
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Hammonds old and new
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: Bud's Post/Electronic-Pipe Reliability
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Electronics vs Pipe
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Hammond Concorde
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Disney organ
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Fw: Bellows saftey
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Hammond Concorde
  by <dgoward@att.net>
Fw: Hammond Concorde
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Hammond Concorde vs. Moller Pipe
  by "STRAIGHT" <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net>
Re: Hammond Concorde
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
 


(back) Subject: RE: George Wright's playing From: "Charles Brown" <clmoney@cybernex.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 06:11:36 -0400   I happen to share the sentiment that Geroge Wright was a truly great = artist by any measure that I know. As for people sitting still; that is another matter altogether.   As a performer, I know about ticket sales being way down for MUSIC = programs (I capitialized for a reason) and OPERA and BALLET tickets up. Because of the influence of media today, we have become a very visual society; especially the younger generations. For many, the thought of just sitting = in a concert hall, closing one's eyes, and just listening to 2-hours or so fo music is unheard of. Many feel that they can do the same at home on their = CD players.   A dear friend of mine was the late puppeteer, Shari Lewis. Shari was one = of the pioneers of children't television in the 50's and later appeared on = PBS in the 90's till her untimely death from cancer. Ten years ago, she was telling me of the changes in children's television between the 50's and = the 90's. And the one theme running through the whole thing was that they = needed more visuality packed into a shorter time span.   I see it in the concert hall. People, before the intermission, fidgeting = and looking at their watches as well as a large number of people leaving = during intermission.   Charles E. Brown http://www.classicalcorner.com   > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of > KriderSM@aol.com > Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 11:05 PM > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: George Wright's playing > > > > I could not decipher whether Randall agreed, or disagreed with > me. Randy, it > seems that you were stating an opposing position, yet, your > comments came off > as a rewording of my own sentiments. > > Some folks will not darken a concert hall if they feel that they > are in store > for a loooooooong, meaningless concert, yet will readily attend a = concert > that features music they love, albeit in short doses. Other folks, your = 9 > year olds examples included, may indeed sit still for the interim > particularly if there is a lot of action on the stage > accompanying the music. > > I still think we are in agreement. > > Stan Krider > > Randall Magnuson recently wrote: > <snip> > Come on, have we lost the ability to follow and appreciate something = that > has some complexity to it's presentation? Are 3 hour theatre = productions > ala Phantom/Beast/etc a wild failure? I attended Beauty & The Beast in > Atlanta with a theatre crammed full of 9 year olds on their seats. Do > symphonies go out of vogue playing that ancient stuff? On the contrary, > they are some of the toughest tickets around. > > As far as people that can't sit still and savor an experience without > gimmicks for 5 minutes, project MTV with triple-speed commercials in the > theatre at 120 dB to tickle the ADD crowd and get it over with. > > Apparently some wouldn't walk across the street for such. They're = already > lost anyway. Send them to a truck pull or a night at the WWF. > > Play some music. Let it soar to deliver a travel and vision the = composer > was moved to try and share. Sans the senseless three alarm > interruptions.<snip> > > ...in response to my comments: > > >I think that the fact that George was able to distill so many musical > styles > >into a short musical piece contributed to his appeal to the > common person. > >Trained organists can appreciate the lengthier tonal and harmonic > development > >of tunes. The common person, on the other hand, wouldn't sit still > >(figuratively and literally) long enough to develop an apprecaition for > these > >musical styles. George kept it short and sweet so that the > untrained could > >learn to appreciate organ music. > > > >Without George, I would not appreciate Papadakos, Olivera and > Strony today. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Bud's Post/Electronic-Pipe Reliability From: George.Greene@RossNutrition.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:18:30 -0400     Hammond? FAIL? Wow, they must not build 'em like the used to; I didn't think they ever died! :) In the olden days, the purchase of an H-word seemed to be like the commercial where the teenager sees, much to his chagrin, that his Dad has just bought a Toro, meaning that the kid will never have a break from lawnmowing due to broken equipment again! :)      
(back) Subject: Re: Relative Dependability From: Ray Sheppard <witsend@ovis.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:03:18 -0400       VEAGUE wrote:   > With all the solid-state capture systems and millions of bytes of preset > memory PER ORGANIST.......... where does the coffee pot plug in? > > Rick dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   Why, under the drawknob marked "Coffee Pot-IIrk Mixture" of course!      
(back) Subject: Fw: Bud's Post/Electronic-Pipe Reliability From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:05:19 -0500   A friend recently came across a Hammond D model. The transformer in the PR-40 leaked wax rendering the instrument unplayable. A new amp is being installed.   -----Original Message----- From: George.Greene@RossNutrition.com <George.Greene@RossNutrition.com> To: - *pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 8:23 AM Subject: Re: Bud's Post/Electronic-Pipe Reliability     > >Hammond? FAIL? Wow, they must not build 'em like the used to; I didn't >think they ever died! :) In the olden days, the purchase of an H-word >seemed to be like the commercial where the teenager sees, much to his >chagrin, that his Dad has just bought a Toro, meaning that the kid will >never have a break from lawnmowing due to broken equipment again! :) > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Variations, etc...(Repton) From: Jim Zimmerman <jrzimmer@purdue.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:41:48 -0500   At 04:53 PM 6/28/99 EDT, DRAWKNOB wrote: >Does anyone know of any decent variations, preludes, fugues, etc... on = these >hymn tunes REPTON and DOWN AMPHNEY? >   There is a nice Michael Burkhardt arrangement of Repton entitled "He Comes to Us as One Unknown". It's published by Morningstar but I'm not sure = what book it's in. It is scored for organ with solo flute but the flute part can easily be played on the organ. Very easy too.     ** Jim Zimmerman jrzimmer@purdue.edu **    
(back) Subject: Re: Electronics vs Pipe From: "Jason D. Comet" <bombarde8@juno.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 23:39:21 -0400     > it seems to me that if something goes wrong with an >electronic organ, it doesn't necessarily mean that the entire organ is > >unplayable. I've played electronic organs where certain stops were >broken, >but the rest were fine....certain pedals were not playing, but the >rest were >fine....certain gadgets were not working, but the rest were fine.   Well, this toaster does not work AT ALL. only the combo action works and the keys and pedals move. No swell pedal volume (always at mid-way) and it only turns on and off. The celestes bearly work, but some (many) notes don't. The alternable voice doesn't work, (and it only have one card). The crescendo pedal goes to full blast on the first contact. If you turn on the Antiphonal Speaker stop, it doesn't turn off until you turn off the organ. If you turn off the Main Organ Off stop, it doesn't come back on until you turn the organ off.   Does this sound like a coupling capacitor is dead? I think they have a long road ahead of them.   Jason Comet bombarde8@juno.com |\ Organist/Choir Director | | 2/22 M.P. Moller pipe organ O ~20 member choir   ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.  
(back) Subject: Re: Bud's Post/Electronic-Pipe Reliability From: "STRAIGHT " <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:34:52 -0400   Well I keep looking at a Hammond that's for sale locally, a Concorde, a = good sized theatre organ type. It plays for a little while, then quits. Makes static. Sometimes just makes static when you turn it on until it decides = to play. Anybody happen to know what's wrong with it and about what it might cost me to have it fixed? I suppose it's probably a power tube of some kind. I heard that it's a PIT, is that a power input tube by chance? Diane S. in soggy sw NYS, where there's going to be mold growing on the floor pretty quick, it's that damp (straight@infoblvd.net)    
(back) Subject: Beethoven Piano works From: "Mark Huth" <mhuth@rodgers.rain.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:54:46 PST     With the weekend of July 4th approaching, I'm polishing Beethoven's "Variations on the National Song" for a prelude. The theme is "God Save the King", which we in the USA know as "My Country 'tis of Thee".   I'm just curious if anyone else on the list has played this. I've done it =   both on piano (which is what I'll do this weekend) and on organ. Since the work doesn't need much sustain pedal, it transfers pretty easily.   Anyone else familiar with this? If not, and you're looking for a fun piano work, you may want to give this a shot.   Mark       Mark Huth Rodgers Instruments, LLC mhuth@rodgers.rain.com http://www.rodgersinstruments.com   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D   I'm not a complete idiot. Several parts are missing.    
(back) Subject: Re: Variations, etc...(Repton) From: "Mark Huth" <mhuth@rodgers.rain.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:02:43 PST     This text was written by Timothy Dudley Smith, former president of the Hymn Society of America. Although I love the original text used with Repton, "Dear Lord and Father of Mankind", I find that Smith's text is nothing short of fabulous.   It is published in the Augsburg/Fortress hymnal, "With One Voice"; I'm sure it's also published elsewhere.   I can only recall one of the verses from memory:   He comes to us in sound of seas, the ocean's fume and foam; yet small and still upon the breeze, a wind that stirs the tops of trees; a voice to call us home, a voice to call us home.     Mark   > There is a nice Michael Burkhardt arrangement of Repton entitled "He = Comes > to Us as One Unknown". It's published by Morningstar but I'm not sure > what book it's in. It is scored for organ with solo flute but the flute > part can easily be played on the organ. Very easy too. > > > ** Jim Zimmerman jrzimmer@purdue.edu **       Mark Huth Rodgers Instruments, LLC mhuth@rodgers.rain.com http://www.rodgersinstruments.com   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D   From a list of church bulletin bloopers: The pastor will preach his farewell message, after which the choir will sing, 'Break Forth into Joy.'    
(back) Subject: Raleigh, NC From: WAYNE_BURCHAM@RSAUSA.COM Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:19:21 -0400       Hello List,   Several of you were kind enough to respond to my inquiry a week ago or so = about "must see/hear" organs in the Raleigh, NC area where I will be on business = this evening (6/29/99, Tues.) through Friday morning. The only time I'll = probably have to sight-see is Thurs. afternoon and evening. A common thread in the responses was to get to Durham to hear the Flentrop and AEolian organs at = Duke Chapel. I'm taking no music so I'm only interested in hearing the organs = and viewing the consoles (although an organ "crawl" would be nice).   It is noon in NYC and I'll be leaving the office about 3 p.m. Does anyone = know a contact person, phone #, email address, etc. to get in touch with = someone to be able to hear the Duke Chapel organs?   Many thanks.   Wayne      
(back) Subject: Re: Electronics vs Pipe From: dgoward@att.net Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 16:26:05 +0000   > Well, this toaster does not work AT ALL...   With all of this wrong, is it possible it took a lightning strike? Too many odd things wrong with it.   Dennis    
(back) Subject: Re: Bud's Post/Electronic-Pipe Reliability From: CHERCAPA@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:27:29 EDT   Dear George, Evidently this Hammond is a Hammond Suzuki. Suzuki bought Hammond some time ago and tried to sell it in the U.S. trading on the old Hammond reliability which came from the Tone wheel generator system, not = the Suzuki electronic which, from what I have heard, are nothing but trash. = Sincerely< Paul P. Valtos  
(back) Subject: Re: Electronics vs Pipe From: CHERCAPA@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:31:05 EDT   Jason, God. What brand is this you're talking about. Sincerely< Paul P. Valtos  
(back) Subject: Re: Beethoven Piano works From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:35:11 EDT   Hey Mark,   Why didn't you post that earlier? I've already turned in my service music =   for July 4th! I guess I'll try that one next year, it sounds like it would be a fun = piece -- I am not familiar with it, but I will be by this time next year. :-)   For this Independence Day I'm playing: Improvisation on "Battle Hymn of = the Republic" - Jean Langlais, Prelude on "America" - Flor Peeters, Fireworks Music (Music for the Royal Fireworks) - G.F. Handel. Hymns are: My = Country 'Tis of Thee; O Beautiful for Spacious Skies (out of the red hymnal); God = of Our Fathers; Oh, That the Lord Would Guide My Ways (EVAN).   John A. Gambill, Jr. Organist/Choirmaster Oak Cliff Lutheran Church (ELCA) Dallas, Texas http://members.tripod.com/~organist_johng/index.html  
(back) Subject: Re: Bellows saftey From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:34:01 EDT   I wish to thank everyone for their sage advice regarding stepping on the bellows.   Rest assured I tread lightly!   Thanks,   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Variations, etc...(Repton) From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:35:29 EDT   Also, thanks to those who gave me some leads on REPTON and DOWN AMPHNEY preludes/variations. I greatly appreciate it!!!!   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Disney organ From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:42:11 EDT   In a message dated 6/28/99 11:32:52 PM Central Daylight Time, ray_ahrens@hotmail.com writes:   << How the heck are they going to engineer that facade? Can't wait to see it. >>   Probably an intricately carved wooden case with Snow White and the seven dwarfs as a motif :-) One could also have all sorts of fun with stenciled =   facade pipes resembling other Disney characters, LOL.   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Today's Service From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 18:53:02 +0100     >Richard Pinel recently informed us: > ><snip> The service was like nothing I have ever seen: > It was basically sing pray read sin pray sermon prayers! <snip> > >...read sin pray sermon...? I trust that is a typo... otherwise it would = be >like any other church... Hehehe. > >Stan Krider     I can honestly say that this is a typo, but I'm proud of it none the = less!!!   Richard    
(back) Subject: Re: Today's Service. From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 18:53:53 +0100   >Dear Richard, > >Glad to hear you made it through the service fine. One question = remains... >Would you sub for them again? > >John     Yeah, I would sub for them again because the organ, although far-out was actually fun to play (not every day, just once in a while) and I got = =A3=A3!!!   Richard    
(back) Subject: Hammonds old and new From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:00:37 -0700   The instrument at St. Matthew's is indeed a Hammond/Suzuki Model 825 "Church Organ", built sometime in the early '90s ... the specs:   PEDAL   16' Subbass 8' Octave 8' Gedeckt Great to Pedal plus the usual two Pedal drawbars   SWELL   16' Bourdon 8' Diapason 8' Salicional (en-chamade) 4' Flute 2' Super Octave 1 3/5' Tierce 8' Oboe (quite decent) Swell to Swell 4' plus one set of drawbars ... the usual ... 16-5 1/3-8-4-2 2/3-2-1 3/5-1 1/3-1     GREAT   8' Open Diapason 8' Gedackt (nice) 4' Octave 4' Salicet (en-chamade) 2' Flautino 1 1/3' Larigot 8' Trumpet (quite decent) plus one set of drawbars ... the usual, as above   The diapasons are all but inaudible; the strings sound like an Estey on stereoids; there are no level controls to be found, except for the Pedal 16'; the flutes and reeds are the best of the lot; why they duplicated sampled stops that are available as pitches on the drawbars is beyond me, except for the 2' Super Octave in the Swell, which is bright and quite handy.   There is a weird combination action (8 generals) that works both stops and drawbars, but it works the drawbars "blind", and once you activate it you can't change the drawbar settings, just the sampled stops. Also, the General Cancel doesn't cancel; it takes you back to whatever was set on stops and drawbars before you activated the pistons.   On the plus side, it is a reasonably comfortable AGO console with overhanging manual keys. I had the pedal clavier tightened when I came .... it was the typical "breathe-on-it-and-it-plays" Hammond pedal-board.   It fails on a regular basis ... at Midnight Mass, the transposer activated itself and started running up and down (!); another time, the sequencer kicked in, held a chord (from who knows where), and then the whole thing expired with a loud buzz and a cloud of burning insulation. Now the sampling seems to be failing ... stops and notes drop in and out of chords for no apparent reason. Occasionally only the sampled stops (or the drawbars) will play, which is interesting, because there isn't enough sound without both.   We have a piano beside the organ in the church, mostly for choir practice (we don't have a choir room), so I do have that to bail to in an emergency.   Played mezzo-forte with flutes and strings (there is a tab that stifles the strings somewhat), it's serviceable for accompanying the chants of the Mass. I've taken to doing at least half of the anthems and solos with the piano, just because I never know what the beast is going to do.   But the donor is still on the Vestry, and gets hysterical whenever the subject of replacing it comes up (sigh).   OLD Hammonds, on the other hand, played FOREVER ... as long as you oiled them and replaced the vibrato scanner occasionally. The SOUND was ugly (unless you were playing Gospel), but they PLAYED. I'd ALMOST rather have an old Concert Model than this "thang".   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Bud's Post/Electronic-Pipe Reliability From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:23:16 -0500   >Well I keep looking at a Hammond that's for sale locally, a Concorde, a = good >sized theatre organ type. It plays for a little while, then quits. = Makes >static. Sometimes just makes static when you turn it on until it decides = to >play. Anybody happen to know what's wrong with it and about what it = might >cost me to have it fixed?   Never heard of a power INPUT tube. Output yes. But since it goes dead totally, it's probably just one simple item. Kinda like a car.... a bad alternator will leave you stranded, but that does not mean the whole car is NG.   I'd check the signal path through the swell pedal into the amplifier. = Could be as simple as a loose connection.   John V      
(back) Subject: Re: Electronics vs Pipe From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:30:27 -0500   >> Well, this toaster does not work AT ALL... > >With all of this wrong, is it possible it took a >lightning strike? Too many odd things wrong with it.   Lightning is possible, but I would start by checking the power supply in the unit. IF all these things went bad simultaneously there is a common cause. Again, it does NOT mean everything is in bad shape.   John V      
(back) Subject: Hammond Concorde From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:59:42 -0500   I saw a Concorde in our service dept. at the Florida music store in the = 70s. Cabinet of particle board (it was falling apart), and circuit boards = flopped in at random. It too had the same problem. Can't remember what the guys finally did with it.   Rick dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net        
(back) Subject: Disney organ From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:09:58 -0500   How 'bout ghosts coming out of the pipe fascade like the Haunted Mansion = at D-World/ Orlando? The console in the mansion was the same one used in 20,000 Leagues Under = The Sea (1954)   Rick dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net        
(back) Subject: Fw: Bellows saftey From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:11:19 -0500   Just hope no one put a whoopie-cushion inside one when you step.   Rick   -----Original Message----- From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com <DRAWKNOB@aol.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 12:35 PM Subject: Re: Bellows saftey     >I wish to thank everyone for their sage advice regarding stepping on the >bellows. > >Rest assured I tread lightly! > >Thanks, > >John > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Hammond Concorde From: dgoward@att.net Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 19:16:06 +0000   > I saw a Concorde in our service dept. at the Florida music store in the 70s. > Cabinet of particle board (it was falling apart), and circuit boards flopped > in at random. It too had the same problem. Can't remember what the guys > finally did with it. >   Fire? Explosives?   Dennis  
(back) Subject: Fw: Hammond Concorde From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:46:45 -0500   I think a bonfire/wienie roast would be more appropos'. Pass the hot = sauce, please.   Rick   -----Original Message----- From: dgoward@att.net <dgoward@att.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 2:36 PM Subject: Re: Hammond Concorde     >> I saw a Concorde in our service dept. at the Florida >music store in the 70s. >> Cabinet of particle board (it was falling apart), and >circuit boards flopped >> in at random. It too had the same problem. Can't >remember what the guys >> finally did with it. >> > >Fire? Explosives? > >Dennis > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Hammond Concorde vs. Moller Pipe From: "STRAIGHT " <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 16:02:55 -0400   No, this one's in good shape physically. This ain't Florida, except for maybe 2 weeks in the summer. Now you want to hear about the last time the service people came and worked on the Moller pipe organ at the church? They got both the tremolos working again. Now, the upper chamber door opens into a big room that's = the Nursery. The first Sunday I used it, it sounded great, except for the panicky lady who showed up and told me that there was something very = wrong! The door in the wall in the nursery was thumping in and out and they were afraid it was coming right off! The door is plywood...........need I say more? It sure was flexing pretty good. So we tightened the thing up, and showed everybody how the tremolo worked, and made a deal. I use it, but am careful to shut it off between pieces. Don't know if it's "authentic" for church or not, but the drawknobs = are there, and they work, and it sure improved the sound, much richer, seems = to give it more volume. I like it, anyway. And somebody will replace the door sooner or later. Smiles-----Diane S. (straight@infoblvd.net)    
(back) Subject: Re: Hammond Concorde From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:14:07 -0700   At 01:59 PM 6/29/1999 -0500, you wrote: >I saw a Concorde in our service dept. at the Florida music store in the = 70s. >Cabinet of particle board (it was falling apart), and circuit boards = flopped >in at random.<snip>   Concorde were part of the notorious LSI series of Hammonds that displaced tonewheels. Hammond purposely engineered every last NICKEL out of these "organs" to maximize profit, and coasted on their rep for tonewheel = organs. These crappy Hams (along with a lot of the other crap for sale back then) led to the demise of the home organ market...the public just wouldn't take any more!   LSI organs lasted into the '80s, when Hammond was sold to japanese interests. The first new technology after LSI was the earliest digital organ, exemplified by the "SuperB" and Budgie's 825, both the same organ underneith. These used digitally synthized "drawbar tones" (presets also = in the 825). Needless to say, the new Hammond/Suzuki line is MUCH improved. Their Dutch-made digital organs are a welcome change, and they are competitively priced, too! REAL samples...not synthesis, as in the 825.   DeserTBoB   PS: Doncha just LURRRRVE that "tacky jukebox" styling of the Concorde?