PipeChat Digest #963 - Wednesday, June 30, 1999
 
Re: Hammonds old and new
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@rglobal.net>
Re: PipeChat Digest #962 - 06/29/99
  by "gregory@mke.earthreach.com" <gregory@mke.earthreach.com>
Re: Bud's Post/Electronic-Pipe Reliability
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@post.queensu.ca>
Re: Disney organ
  by "j nathan" <jnatpat@sunsix.infi.net>
Re: Bud's Post/Electronic-Pipe Reliability
  by <CHERCAPA@aol.com>
Re: Disney organ
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
Re: Disney organ
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Re: Disney organ
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net>
Re: Disney organ
  by "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com>
Re: Disney organ
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Disney organ
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re. Disney organ
  by "Walter W. Davis" <wdavis@electrotex.com>
4th of July
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Dutch-made drawbars
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Dutch-made drawbars
  by "Jerry" <aqne@waveinter.com>
Disney organ
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: 4th of July
  by "STRAIGHT" <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net>
George Wright's music
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Re: Re. Disney organ
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@MediaOne.net>
Disney organ
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Re: 4th of July, and steam calliopes.
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Fw: Re. Disney organ
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Fw: 4th of July, and steam calliopes.
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Fw: 4th of July
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: 4th of July
  by "STRAIGHT" <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net>
Re: Fw: Re. Disney organ facade
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Hammonds old and new From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@rglobal.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:14:08 -0700   At 11:00 AM 6/29/1999 -0700, you wrote:   >OLD Hammonds, on the other hand, played FOREVER ... as long as you oiled >them and replaced the vibrato scanner occasionally. The SOUND was ugly >(unless you were playing Gospel), but they PLAYED. I'd ALMOST rather >have an old Concert Model than this "thang".   I have a Concert Model E form 1938 (Hammond's first "AGO" console). Separate swells for great and swell, four toe studs, "adding machine key" presets...like John Cameron Swayze's Timex, it just keeps on ticking. The secret to making any drawbar Hammond sound like anything at all is meticulous settings of the drawbars or presets. Irwin's old "Dictionary = of Hammond Organ Stops" was just a starting point. If one knows the harmonic compositions of various organ tones, one CAN be convicing (at times) of certain stops. The later addition of two extra drawbars on the manuals = and pedal (H-100/X-66/X-77) helped a LOT towards making better reed and string fakes. The Hammond G-100 ("Grande") used even more harmonics, some of = these actually being true tempered. It was Hammond's last hurrah at trying to sound like pipes, and was their best effort. Only about 100 were = eventually built, and Hammond threw in the towel to Allen And Rodgers.   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #962 - 06/29/99 From: "gregory@mke.earthreach.com" <gregory@mke.earthreach.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 99 16:43:52 -0500   Greetings:   Although it is probably too late for this coming Sunday, may I suggest a very fine setting for the 4th of July Sunday:   Variations on America.............Janet Linker   Very well crafted throughout.   The variations can be divided into prelude/offertory/postlude.   They will take a bit of practice to playwell, but, worth the effort.   This Sunday I am playing "American Rhapsody" by Pietro Yon for Prelude and Offertory (minus the National Anthem at the conclusion) and the Biggs arrangement of "Stars & Stripes" for the postlude...................My wife will serve as the piccolo on the great!   HAPPY FOURTH!   Tom Gregory First Baptist Church (An American Baptist Congregation) Waukesha WI USA   p.s. I would like to send copies of the Yon Rapsody, but it was published in 1929 and is not public domain.........sorry.........it is published by Carl Fischer.    
(back) Subject: Re: Bud's Post/Electronic-Pipe Reliability From: Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 17:51:18 -0400   At 02:23 PM 6/29/99 -0500, John wrote:   > >Never heard of a power INPUT tube. Output yes. >But since it goes dead totally, it's probably just one simple item. >Kinda like a car.... a bad alternator will leave you stranded, but that >does not mean the whole car is NG. >   John 'et al'   That's a rather sore point with me today, I have this morning had to have = a replacement alternator installed in my car, - $370.90 later I was back on the road! Not a good start to my day!   Bob Conway .... Did you hear about the Microsoft air bags to be installed in new cars? In the event of a crash it flashes up a message "Are you sure you want to inflate?"      
(back) Subject: Re: Disney organ From: j nathan <jnatpat@sunsix.infi.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 17:35:55 -0500   > > << How the heck are they going > to engineer that facade? Can't wait to see it. >>     Not to mention that if I were playing, I would insist on wearing one of Cruella DeVille's capes instead of my usual cassock/cotta nonsense.....LOL Just a thought...   JNP  
(back) Subject: Re: Bud's Post/Electronic-Pipe Reliability From: CHERCAPA@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 19:05:15 EDT   Dear Bob, That's what you get for driving those expensive imported cars. = LOL Paul  
(back) Subject: Re: Disney organ From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 19:10:21 -0500   VEAGUE wrote: > > How 'bout ghosts coming out of the pipe fascade like the Haunted Mansion = at > D-World/ Orlando? > The console in the mansion was the same one used in 20,000 Leagues Under = The > Sea (1954)   The facade of the instrument has in fact already been designed, and a photograph of the design appeared in the *New York Times* about a year or so ago (perhaps someone can give us the exact date). The design is strikingly unusual, having the mostly wooden facade pipes arranged at wild angles off the vertical, which will doubtless require some unusually strong staying to keep it all in place. The design is one that you will either like or hate. I personally like it a lot.   John Speller, St. Mark's, St. Louis.  
(back) Subject: Re: Disney organ From: rohrschok8@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:14:19 -0400 (EDT)     ><< How the heck are they going >=A0to engineer that facade? Can't wait to see it.   >Probably an intricately carved wooden case > with Snow White and the seven dwarfs as a > motif :-) One could also have all sorts of fun > with stenciled facade pipes resembling other > Disney characters, LOL. John, Evidently you have not seen the drawing of the proposed facade. It looks like a container of french fries from McDonalds; it is truly inartistic, unpleasant to look at, and contributes nothing to the appearance of the room. But hey! that's only from a drawing. It's at a website somewhere. It really doesn't even give a good laugh from looking at it.   Bruce & the Baskerbeagles ~~+~~+~~ rohrschok8@webtv.net ~~+~~+~~   Dogs laugh, but they laugh with their tails. -- Max Eastman    
(back) Subject: Re: Disney organ From: Tim Bovard <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:04:30 -0500   At 6/29/99 08:14 PM, Bruce Cornly wrote: > >It looks like a container of french fries from McDonalds; it is truly >inartistic, unpleasant to look at, and contributes nothing to the >appearance of the room. But hey! that's only from a drawing. It's >at a website somewhere. It really doesn't even give a good laugh from >looking at it.   OK, folks --- I finally got up from falling on the floor. Now, does = anyone have the URL of that "website somewhere"?? I'd love to see the drawing myself -- maybe I'll get to fall on the floor, again!!!   Cheers --   Tim (no great fan of overcommercialized cartoon rodents, or styrofoam hamburgers for that matter...)      
(back) Subject: Re: Disney organ From: "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:24:34 -0400   Tim,   Bruce is right on! It is one of the strangest designs - almost as though the organ was involved in an earthquake!   Bonnie Beth Derby Producer & Host ``Orgelwerke'' & ``Choral Traditions'' WCNY-FM, 91.3; Syracuse; WUNY-FM, 89.5, Utica; WJNY-FM, 90.9, Watertown Organist, First Church of Christ, Scientist, Syracuse orge@dreamscape.com   Subject: Re: Disney organ     > At 6/29/99 08:14 PM, Bruce Cornly wrote: > > > >It looks like a container of french fries from McDonalds; it is truly > >inartistic, unpleasant to look at, and contributes nothing to the > >appearance of the room. But hey! that's only from a drawing. It's > >at a website somewhere. It really doesn't even give a good laugh from > >looking at it. > > OK, folks --- I finally got up from falling on the floor. Now, does anyone > have the URL of that "website somewhere"?? I'd love to see the drawing > myself -- maybe I'll get to fall on the floor, again!!! > > Cheers -- > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Disney organ From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:55:06 EDT   In a message dated 6/29/99 7:18:55 PM Central Daylight Time, rohrschok8@webtv.net writes:   << Evidently you have not seen the drawing of the proposed facade. It looks like a container of french fries from McDonalds; >> You're right I haven't... and it sounds like I'm not missing much! :-)   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Disney organ From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:57:25 EDT   In a message dated 6/29/99 8:24:04 PM Central Daylight Time, orge@dreamscape.com writes:   << Bruce is right on! It is one of the strangest designs - almost as = though the organ was involved in an earthquake! >>   Perhaps it has been... Do the specs call for a 64 footer? If so that may = be the problemo!   John  
(back) Subject: Re. Disney organ From: "Walter W. Davis" <wdavis@electrotex.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:28:03 -0500   I have not seen the drawing, but would this be something similar to the organ casework shown in "Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea"? It looked like a bundle of pipes all rooted to one spot and fanning out.   I've been wondering if anyone here knows anything about the real pipe organ used in "Snow White" -- I mean the one in the funeral scene at the end of the movie, not Grumpy's calliope.    
(back) Subject: 4th of July From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:32:57 -0500   Some listers are playing very nice pieces for church on this 4th. Yours' truely is playing the IUPUI steam calliope in Bloomington, Indiana for the July 4th parade. Hope I or the calliope don't spook the horses pulling the wagon.   Rick dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net        
(back) Subject: Dutch-made drawbars From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:42:54 -0500   A friend in Florida in the 70s sold Emminent organs from Holland. Tabs and drawbars, this thing sounded Hammondy and more. Of course, a good salesperson could make the thing talk. We had a Battle Of The Organs show one night at a restaurant that had a 3m 27r WurliTzer. Guess what won +ACEAIQAh-   Rick dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net        
(back) Subject: Re: Dutch-made drawbars From: Jerry <aqne@waveinter.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 22:37:24 -0400   The beast is a Emminet Grand Theatre 2000 - ballsy instrument, gave one to = my daughter. Big Big sound especially the reed & strings. Yes in the hands of someone who could play, any style no sweat.   VEAGUE wrote:   > A friend in Florida in the 70s sold Emminent organs from Holland. Tabs = and > drawbars, this thing sounded Hammondy and more. Of course, a good > salesperson could make the thing talk. > We had a Battle Of The Organs show one night at a restaurant that had a = 3m > 27r WurliTzer. > Guess what won +ACEAIQAh- > > Rick dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Disney organ From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:51:20 -0500   I haven't seen Snow whats-her-name, but the organ in 20,000 Leagues was = the sound-stage organ from United Artists' studios. Yes, James Mason WAS = playing it. The diaphone sounded luscious in the reverberant Nautilus. The Nautilus' console was a 2m Robert Morton modified horse-shoe with drawknobs. The pipes were carved and sculpted plaster.   Rick dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net        
(back) Subject: Re: 4th of July From: "STRAIGHT " <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 22:55:59 -0400   Rick, Congratulations+ACE- I wonder if the Travel Channel will cover it. = And what do all those letters stand for? What pieces are you going to play? I love parades, and calliopes too, wish I could come. Play nice now, horses do like good music. Is it steam powered? Are = you wearing a costume? How much keyboard does it have, anyway? Is it a regular keyboard? Do you get a seatbelt? Wouldn't want you to fall off = the wagon. And remember to smile+ACEAIQ- Diane S. (straight+AEA-infoblvd.net)    
(back) Subject: George Wright's music From: KriderSM@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 23:14:56 EDT   Ooops, I sent this message to the wrong chatline.   My humble apologies, and many thanks for not being flamed for so doing. = <:-{   Stan Krider  
(back) Subject: Re: Re. Disney organ From: Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@MediaOne.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 23:17:14 -0400   Here is a link to a drawing showing the unusual facade of Rosales Opus 24 to be installed in Walt Disney Concert Hall   "French Fries" is one interpretation... ...."Fantasia" is another.   http://www.disneyhall.org/mod03/mod03-01.shtml   Stan Lowkis  
(back) Subject: Disney organ From: KriderSM@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 23:21:46 EDT     ray_ahrens@hotmail.com rhetorically asks:   << How the heck are they going to engineer that facade? Can't wait to see it. >>   DRAWKNOB@aol.com recently answered:   <Probably an intricately carved wooden case with Snow White and the seven dwarfs as a motif :-) One could also have all sorts of fun with stenciled =   facade pipes resembling other Disney characters, LOL.>   I think Disney should copy the animated pipes used in the home of the = Seven Dwarfs! Remember that hilarious performance??   Stan Krider  
(back) Subject: Re: 4th of July, and steam calliopes. From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 23:27:29 EDT   Hey Rick----- Being an old steam locomotive man,,,,watch out for blowing steam that you dont get burned! AND,,,you might actually be the ONLY organ guy playing steam calliope in the whole United States, on that day! what do you think? =   Cheers, ---Roc  
(back) Subject: Fw: Re. Disney organ From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 23:12:30 -0500   I have to say...the facade looks like a stacked pile of sticks I have in = my shop.   Rick   -----Original Message----- From: Stanley Lowkis <nstarfil@MediaOne.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 10:20 PM Subject: Re: Re. Disney organ     >Here is a link to a drawing showing the unusual facade of >Rosales Opus 24 to be installed in Walt Disney Concert Hall > >"French Fries" is one interpretation... >..."Fantasia" is another. > >http://www.disneyhall.org/mod03/mod03-01.shtml > >Stan Lowkis > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Fw: 4th of July, and steam calliopes. From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 23:16:56 -0500   Roc... A few years ago a steam fitting ruptured, and the guy playing jumped out the wide (open) window on the wagon.   Rick   -----Original Message----- From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 10:32 PM Subject: Re: 4th of July, and steam calliopes.     >Hey Rick----- >Being an old steam locomotive man,,,,watch out for blowing steam that you >dont get burned! AND,,,you might actually be the ONLY organ guy playing >steam calliope in the whole United States, on that day! what do you = think? >Cheers, >---Roc > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Fw: 4th of July From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 23:29:28 -0500   IUPUI... Indiana University Purdue University Indiana....home of the Pacers and the notorious Bob Knight. I like to play German = biergartenmusik, Back Home Again In Indiana, and of course, the IU fight song (among other delightful tunes to tickle your tummy). It IS a real steam-powered calliope that can be heard a mile away. It came off an Ohio river boat many long years ago. The boat sank. Costume?? --an IUPUI pull over and IUPUI cap -may I take your order = please? It has a 37-note keyboard operating relays that operate the valves under = the whistles. The keyboard can be removed to outside the wagon so people can play it via a long cable. I'm not wearing a seat belt in case the damned thing blows a steam fitting again. There's a window on either side of the wagon for viewing and = jumping out. SMILE?????? BAH+ACEAIQAhACEAIQ-   Rick   -----Original Message----- From: STRAIGHT +ADw-STRAIGHT+AEA-infoblvd.net+AD4- To: PipeChat +ADw-pipechat+AEA-pipechat.org+AD4- Date: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 10:01 PM Subject: Re: 4th of July     +AD4-Rick, +AD4- Congratulations+ACE- I wonder if the Travel Channel will cover = it. And +AD4-what do all those letters stand for? What pieces are you going to = play? I +AD4-love parades, and calliopes too, wish I could come. +AD4- Play nice now, horses do like good music. Is it steam powered? = Are you +AD4-wearing a costume? How much keyboard does it have, anyway? Is it a +AD4-regular keyboard? Do you get a seatbelt? Wouldn't want you to fall = off the +AD4-wagon. And remember to smile+ACEAIQ- +AD4-Diane S. +AD4-(straight+AEA-infoblvd.net) +AD4- +AD4- +AD4AIg-Pipe Up and Be Heard+ACEAIg- +AD4-PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs +ACY- related = topics +AD4-HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org +AD4-List: mailto:pipechat+AEA-pipechat.org +AD4-Administration: mailto:admin+AEA-pipechat.org +AD4-Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests+AEA-pipechat.org +AD4-      
(back) Subject: Re: 4th of July From: "STRAIGHT " <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 00:55:13 -0400   Yep, Smile+ACEAIQ- It's going to be a Kodak Day+ACE- You'll be on lots = and lots of +ACI-candid cameras+ACI-.   I think the circus museum in Baraboo, WI has their parade on Labor Day don't they? I know I saw that one on the Travel channel last year. They have at least one calliope, maybe more.   Not Bah------HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSS+ACE- Nothing like steam heat on the 4th of = July. Done my time riding fire trucks in parades, not much difference, those things put out an incredible amount of heat just idling along, especially that one with the cross walk behind the cab. Perfect place to stand, but there's a space between the cab and the walk where the exhaust heat can = come up. Great in the winter, keeps the gauges from freezing, and a place to = get warmed up, but for a summer parade ...............well.......... Past my bedtime. Again. Diane S. (straight+AEA-infoblvd.net)      
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Re. Disney organ facade From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 02:57:42 EDT   Hello Rick--- And to think, you could have sold pics of that stacked pile of sticks for = BIG BUCKS to the Disney interests. Ehhhh,,,,they woulda claimed it was their idea anyway,,,and who would care = if the bucks were enuf! <G> Cheers, ---Roc