PipeChat Digest #735 - Friday, March 5, 1999
 
Re: MIDI interface (MIDAS Sound System)
  by <jorge.gomez@nuclenor.es>
Re: Rednecksville
  by <George.Greene@rossnutrition.com>
Diane Bish.................
  by "Daryl Robinson" <orgel1@fcmail.com>
Fw: Fw: New Job
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: The Mother Church
  by "Blaine Ricketts" <blaineri@home.com>
Fw: Lousy rooms as justification for no pipe organ
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Aeolian Skinner...........THE BEST restoration guys
  by <Victorgan@aol.com>
Re: Trumpet
  by "Jim Hailey" <Bald1@prodigy.net>
Re: Virgil and Wanamaker's
  by "Jim Hailey" <Bald1@prodigy.net>
For Sale: 3/18 Wurlitzer from Uncle Milt's Pipe Organ Pizza
  by <RUSCZYK@ix.netcom.com>
Re: Lousy rooms as justification for no pipe organ
  by "Robert Horton" <gemshorn@ukans.edu>
Re: Rednecksville
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Diane Bish.................
  by "Frank Johnson" <usd465@horizon.hit.net>
Shalom
  by "Robert  Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net>
Re: Shalom
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Shalom, chaverim
  by <Afreed0904@aol.com>
Re: Shalom
  by <Hitkmus@aol.com>
Re: Shalom
  by <Hitkmus@aol.com>
Happy Clappy, 7-11 was  Rednecksville
  by <JKVDP@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: MIDI interface (MIDAS Sound System) From: <jorge.gomez@nuclenor.es> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 99 11:26:15 +0100     Matt Baker <poinsettia@netxn.com> wrote:   <Do you have a URL for Midas?>       MIDAS Sound System is at:   http://www.housemarque.com/technology/midas/index.html   Note: For 16-bit MS-DOS you can't use the last version of MIDAS, but an older one.     Jorge Gomez        
(back) Subject: Re: Rednecksville From: George.Greene@rossnutrition.com Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:04:37 -0500     Bruce wrote...   <<...I would hesitate to lump these "redneckville" folks into one basket. I have played in several rural churches in which "them hicks" really enjoyed Bach and the other "good stuff." But they also like their gospel music, too...>>   AMEN to that, Bruce! I grew up in the South and I love the music of both JSB and WJG(aither), as well as some of the old rip-snortin' gospel quartet stuff. Still having trouble getting into Happy Clappy, however, although I'm being dragged there, kicking and screaming all the way!     -George Greene    
(back) Subject: Diane Bish................. From: "Daryl Robinson" <orgel1@fcmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 07:36:55 -0800   he staff of Indiana atleast not on the web page just asking.       Daryl Robinson Organist Moody Memorial First United Methodist Church Galveston, Tx.   ______________________________________________________   Sent by FortuneCity Mail at http://www.fortunecity.com       Join now and receive 20Mb of free web space and E-mail  
(back) Subject: Fw: Fw: New Job From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:44:56 -0500   The Old Testament says..." praise the Lord with a joyful noise......with harps and timbrels and washboards :-)"..... gee- could this mean theatre organ too? Better a joyful noise to praise HIM with.   Rick.     -----Original Message----- From: bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 3:27 AM Subject: Re: Fw: New Job     I would hesitate to lump these "redneckville" folks into one basket. I have played in several rural churches in which "them hicks" really enjoyed Bach and the other "good stuff." But they also like their gospel music, too. One does not necessarily preclude the other. Actually, you will probably find more tolerance for variety in the "redneckville" churches than in the ooo-la-la downtown churches.   There are also many transplated "rednecks" who become immoveable snobs and reject anything which vaguely reminds them of their "past." Beware the obviously elegant!!   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: The Mother Church From: Blaine Ricketts <blaineri@home.com> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 08:44:45 -0800   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <i>Jason McGuire posted</i> <br><i>I was really wondering what stops and in what divisions ... the organ has 235</i> <br><i>ranks and I've played it extensively ... hard to imagine what it needs other</i> <br><i>than maybe a real 32' Bourdon in the pedal.</i> <p>Walker's email address is &lt;bwalker@walkertechnical.com>, write him a note. <p>Blaine Ricketts</html>    
(back) Subject: Fw: Lousy rooms as justification for no pipe organ From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:05:26 -0500   In our country church, we have full, medium-thick carpeting through-out AND padded pews-- maybe thats why I doze off during the sermon. The sanctuary however, is like a big barn with a high ceiling. I've listened to our little 4 rank Wicks from all corners-- even in the basement, and not a dead spot in the whole room. The acoustics are VERY live-- a freak of acoustical nature? But still having trouble with the 16 ' Bourdon being too soft. You can feel the floor shake a little, but can barely hear the pedal. Have tried removing the harmonic bridge from the mouth-- the notes jump the octave then settle down to 16 ' pitch. Have tried cutting a piece of flat pipe metal-- we never played that C# diapason anyhow- hehe-and varied the cut-up, but to no avail. Will try leather on the upper lip. My friend has tons of Victor phonographs-- will try putting a horn in front of each pipe-mouth and direct it towards the swell shades. I'm desperate here, folks, hehe.   Rick.   -----Original Message----- From: N Brown <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 12:35 AM Subject: Re: Lousy rooms as justification for no pipe organ     Dear Robert, How good of you to respond to my query. Good luck with your studies at KU. I loved being there. Incidentally, I was at KU during the Danny Manning/Larry Brown era. You have indeed raised a serious issue for study with the reverb/upperwork question. When our organ was installed, the carpet was 20 years old and the pews were hard backed. Last year, the powers that be refurbished the sanctuary with thick carpet and padded pew backs. My 16' pedal is virtually nonexistent in the room now. I fought like the dickens for at least a hardwood chancel, but to no avail. We do get reverb thru our a/c heating ducts, though!! :) Aesthetic has won out over acoustic again. --Neil     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: Aeolian Skinner...........THE BEST restoration guys From: Victorgan@aol.com Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:24:25 EST   Greetings, Rick!   I've been trying to get Ed on-line for some time now, but without any luck! He is probably just too busy!   The Legion organ is an Original EM Skinner!!! Ed has done an excellent job in restoring it to all original Skinner Specs (except for the Peterson Multiplex Systems). It looks like EM did it himself!   Vic  
(back) Subject: Re: Trumpet From: "Jim Hailey" <Bald1@prodigy.net> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 20:34:46 -0600   Rick, how big is the residence? I would like to take a look at them. I am in southeast missouri, but could get up there next week. Would they be too much for a 250 seat sanctuary.   ---------- > From: VEAGUE <dutchorgan@svs.net> > To: e-mail organ chat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Subject: Trumpet > Date: Monday, March 01, 1999 11:19 AM > > I have a WurliTzer style D Trumpet for sale. 61-pipes +AEA- 8 ' . About 7 > inch pressure. Resonators need some dents removed, and some tonal scrolls > need replacing. > > Price not established as of yet, so throw something at me--I'll duck. > Located just southeast of Indianapolis. > > Anyone in the area is welcome to stop by and check them out. The pipes are > in a private residence installation. > > Rick Veague. dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Virgil and Wanamaker's From: "Jim Hailey" <Bald1@prodigy.net> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 20:33:05 -0600       ---------- > From: DudelK@aol.com > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: Virgil and Wanamaker's > Date: Sunday, February 28, 1999 3:50 PM > > > > > Virgil's name was conspicuously absent from the convention program for reasons > I don't recall (probably politics, snip   Virgil had a few enemies   > there was a full-page ad in the > paper announcing that Virgil would appear at the Grand Court at Wanamaker's > the following day to introduce his new recording on the Wanamaker organ. > town for the convention. Perhaps Virgil had the last laugh after all! > he seemed to always be able to get the upper hand. Gee, maybe it was because he was good.   > Too bad he won't be around to play for the next AGO convention in Philadelphia > in 2002! > it is a shame, but we continue to buy his recordings. > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: For Sale: 3/18 Wurlitzer from Uncle Milt's Pipe Organ Pizza From: RUSCZYK@ix.netcom.com Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 21:23:35 -0600 (CST)   Well it looks like a closing date is getting closer so Milt would like to seek a buyer for the organ. Please note that he has no intention of breaking it up and the buyer must commit to keeping it substantially intact (at least the original 3/13 Orpheum portion). For Sale: Wurlitzer 3/18 (235 Special + 5 ranks) Famous "UNCLE MILT's Pipe Organ Pizza" Wurlitzer. Seattle "Orpheum 235 Sp" OPUS 1674 3/13 with five additional ranks. 2 Tibia, 2 Vox, VDO + Celeste, Salicional, Brass Trumpet, Brass Sax, Tuba Horn, Orch Oboe, Oboe Horn, Kinura, Open Diapason, Horn Diapason, Concert Flute, Clarinet, Post Horn (Moller), Marimba/Harp, Chrysoglott, Glock, Xylo, Chimes, 2nd Chrys/vibraphone, piano, large toy counter, 4 sets of shades, 10 level combo memory, 10hp Spencer. Console from Portand "Oriental". Pictures can be seen on the "THEATRE ORGAN Home Page" Full detailed specification upon request. SERIOUS INQUIRIES FROM PRINCIPALS ONLY, PLEASE......... $Best Offer Robert Rusczyk Vancouver , WA USA Phone: 360-254-4214 Email to -> RUSCZYK@ix.netcom.com      
(back) Subject: Re: Lousy rooms as justification for no pipe organ From: Robert Horton <gemshorn@ukans.edu> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 09:42:26 -0600   At 12:33 AM 3/4/99 -0500, you wrote: >Last year, the powers that be refurbished the >sanctuary with thick carpet and padded pew backs. .... > Aesthetic has won out over acoustic again. Quite the contrary, I'd be inclined to say that the LACK of aesthetic has won out over acoustic again. :)   Rob  
(back) Subject: Re: Rednecksville From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 23:11:43 -0500 (EST)   George: I can understand why you have a certain amount of resistance to "happy clappy". (this room is the first place I've encountered that term, but it seems to apply). With Gaither-type music (albeit most of it), the heart AND mind are both engaged, as is the case with much of the 19th century gospel hymnody and to a certain extent the 70s/early 80s vintage praise and worship music. The fault I find with TODAY's praise music is that it does not get into the heart AND mind and thus remains superficial. It's often glib and extremely trite (and that's just the words). Scripture tells us to worship the Lord in spirit and truth (heart and mind). It should be both/and, not either/or. Also, those happy-clappy folks tend to ignore real life situations and the real heart of the gospel. I'm afraid the gospel they preach is not the gospel at all; at least it is not in MY Bible. Sorry to get on my soap box too long Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Diane Bish................. From: usd465@horizon.hit.net (Frank Johnson) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 22:35:48 -0600   >I know I may get beat up by some of youout there for mentoning that name >but I was sord of worndering where she is at right now. is she at Indiana >Univ. or what. The only reason I ask is that her e-mail address is through >Indiana but she is not on the staff of Indiana atleast not on the web page >just asking.     I've been to two meetings today where I stirred up controversy. I don't want to do that here but I just want to say that Ms. Bish has done more for promoting the pipe organ than most of us have. (smile)?   Frank   Frank R. Johnson (KA0API) Spirit of New Orleans - clarinet/leader http://www.hit.net/~usd465/ 1922 E. 14th Winfield, KS 67156      
(back) Subject: Shalom From: "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 22:56:30 -0600   Does anyone know where I can find a harmonized version of this tune?  
(back) Subject: Re: Shalom From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 00:01:06 -0500 (EST)   Shalom is in United Methodist Hymnal, #666.   Neil Brown    
(back) Subject: Re: Shalom, chaverim From: Afreed0904@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 00:12:18 EST     In a message dated 3.5.99 12:00:22 AM, highnote@mhtc.net writes:   <<Does anyone know where I can find a harmonized version of this tune?>>   Two solutions:   Do it in canon, three voices, four beats apart.   Assuming key of D minor: Use Dm on bar 1; at second half of bar 3, use Am; bar 4, Dm. Second phrase: Dm on the first downbeat; Am on bar 2, beat 4; Dm on bar 3 and 4 except Am on bar 3, beat 4.   I think that to depart or elaborate any further would be to depart from the style of the tune. If you don't have the Hebrew lyrics, they are "Shalom chaverim" repeated just as the English is.   Alan Freed  
(back) Subject: Re: Shalom From: Hitkmus@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 01:47:14 EST   Do you mean Shalom Chaverim? The Presbyterian Hymnal has a version with chords notated over a lead line...#537. Most of these Jewish folk songs you have to make up your own accompaniment! (I played at a Temple for 15 years and did a lot of that.)   Lynda Alexander Palo Alto  
(back) Subject: Re: Shalom From: Hitkmus@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 01:49:31 EST   In a message dated 3/4/99 9:02:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, Innkawgneeto@webtv.net writes:   << Shalom is in United Methodist Hymnal, #666. >> That's scary!  
(back) Subject: Happy Clappy, 7-11 was Rednecksville From: JKVDP@aol.com Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 01:59:08 EST   Recently I heard some CCM called "7 - 11" music....seven words repeated eleven times! Jerry in Seattle