PipeChat Digest #749 - Wednesday, March 10, 1999
 
Re: Who DOESN'T care about proper technique?
  by "Matt Baker" <poinsettia@netxn.com>
Re: Robert Tilton, Tammy Faye and toooo much!
  by "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net>
Re: Robert Tilton, Tammy Faye and toooo much!
  by "S LaManna" <slamanna@hotmail.com>
RE: Who sets techique?
  by "Daryl Robinson" <darylrobinson@hotmail.com>
Re: Robert Tilton, Tammy Faye and toooo much!
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Who DOESN'T care about proper technique?
  by "Robert  Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net>
Re: Robert Tilton, Tammy Faye and toooo much!
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Who DOESN'T care about proper technique?
  by "Robert Horton" <gemshorn@ukans.edu>
Re: Marchal
  by "Jim Filsinger" <kimballl@yahoo.com>
RE: Robert Tilton, Tammy Faye and toooo much!
  by "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net>
Re: Happy Organists
  by <Hitkmus@aol.com>
RE: Robert Tilton, Tammy Faye and toooo much!
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@truelink.net>
Re: Robert Tilton, Tammy Faye and toooo much!
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: C.S. Lang Piece Sought
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: C.S. Lang Piece Sought
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: C.S. Lang Piece Sought
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Who sets techique? (was Bish TBN time)
  by "Daryl Robinson" <darylrobinson@hotmail.com>
Re: Who sets techique? (was Bish TBN time)
  by "Daryl Robinson" <darylrobinson@hotmail.com>
Re: Northminster Church - Specs
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Lack of Trompette on U.S. Positivs
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
RE: Oak Cliff Lutheran Church - A GOOD JOB
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Robert Tilton, Tammy Faye and toooo much!
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Robert Tilton, Tammy Faye and toooo much!
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Who DOESN'T care about proper technique? From: Matt Baker <poinsettia@netxn.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 03:00:49 -0800   Robert Horton wrote:   > At 02:28 PM 3/9/99 -0500, Justin Karch wrote: > > Then I went to college to major in organ performance. I was told that > >everything I was doing was wrong and that I would have to virtually learn > >everything again. (not said straight out to me, but was implied) - my > >question to the group. WHO CARES WHAT'S PROPER TECHNIQUE? > > OK, it takes a lot to get me excited on this list, but it really burns me > to hear this attitude still in circulation. Born of the narcissism of the > 60s--I wish it would have died a quiet death in the 80s, but it just > doesn't seem to go away. > First off to Matt Baker, proper technique is NOT an abstract academic > monster designed by stubborn PhDs without any connection to genuine > musicality.   Actually I was refering only to the limited number of individuals who try to take one specific technique and impose it as a set-in-stone absolute rule on as many people as possible, as I have seen this happen. Personally I don't think good/proper technique in general should just be dismissed as optional by any means. While I don't play organ myself, I find that good technique is essential for all sorts of different things, and I agree totally with those listers who stated that while people should be free to do it "their way" to an extent, they should also base their techniques on the proven techniques of others as much as possible.   I think your points are more than valid, for those who want to take them.   -- < Transmit src: poinsettia@netxn.com ID1 LCARS Channel 1 Lineout > YuSeEkMeAtNo31101993 http://www.netxn.com/~poinsettia/index.html Pizza-Delivery Illustrated: http://members.xoom.com/hlrmatt/index.html      
(back) Subject: Re: Robert Tilton, Tammy Faye and toooo much! From: "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 06:54:10 -0500   HI, Y'all!   Some of the sound technicians we use on occasion told me just the other day they are working in Miami videotaping the t.v. show for Robert Tilton. He keeps it hush-hush apparently, that he's working out of Miami. Maybe he got tooooooo big for Texas or some such nonsense. Anyway, he's back in business. So . . . keeps those cards and letters a'comin!   Darryl by the Sea   At 10:01 PM 3/9/99 EST, you wrote: >In a message dated 3/9/99 8:37:12 PM Central Standard Time, Icorgan@aol.com >writes: > > > >If that's not the truth... it's the next best thing to Robert Tilton's old >show! >    
(back) Subject: Re: Robert Tilton, Tammy Faye and toooo much! From: "S LaManna" <slamanna@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 04:35:25 PST   I hope Tilton remembers this time to actually burn the prayer requests that he gets instead of throwing them out in the dumpster, so no one will know this time that he is stealing all of the money!   Steve Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: RE: Who sets techique? From: "Daryl Robinson" <darylrobinson@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 05:46:46 PST   Dennis,   In think that I was saying that it was right or wrong I was simply stating that in my teaching and learning that Diane's playing lacks a little bit. That does not mean that she is not a good "show" organist but as far as the academic world is concerned she is not a good organist. Gotta run I will get back to this one later.   Daryl Robinson     >From: "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net> >Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Subject: RE: Who sets techique? >Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:10:23 -0700 > > >> >> First of all if someone is playing the organ wrong then you can still >> play the pieces that you listed. But not right............ >> > >When I go to work in the morning, I can take 35th ave or 19th ave or 7th Ave >or 7th St. Any of them will get me there with roughly the same distance and >time. Is any one of them right or wrong? > >Like the original question, WHO sets the technique? WHO determines what is >the best way for ALL organists to play something? But another question is >still there which the quote above doesn't answer. WHY is there only a >single RIGHT way? Or am I oversimplifying what you're saying? > >Dennis Goward > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >   Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Robert Tilton, Tammy Faye and toooo much! From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 09:27:46 EST   In a message dated 3/10/99 6:36:40 AM Central Standard Time, slamanna@hotmail.com writes:   << I hope Tilton remembers this time to actually burn the prayer requests that he gets instead of throwing them out in the dumpster, so no one will know this time that he is stealing all of the money! >>   ROFLMAO!!!   Here's a thought... who here would consider playing the organ at his church (would anyone even admit to it?), just think -- how could you keep a straight face and steady tempi?   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Who DOESN'T care about proper technique? From: "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:25:04 -0600   bravo Robert !!!!   Though I am far from playing those Etudes, I keep a copy of Gleason on my practice console and I use it ! It is easy to get away from it, but things work better when I practice scales before digging into the good stuff. If we don't maintain a higher standard for ourselves, how can we ever expect the "scene" to improve?   It is that kind of enthusiasm shown in this e-mail which keeps me tuned into this channel! Thanks again.   Robert Eversman Mineral Point, WI     ---------- From: Robert Horton <gemshorn@ukans.edu> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: Who DOESN'T care about proper technique? Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 12:37 AM   At 02:28 PM 3/9/99 -0500, Justin Karch wrote: > Then I went to college to major in organ performance. I was told that >everything I was doing was wrong and that I would have to virtually learn >everything again. (not said straight out to me, but was implied) - my >question to the group. WHO CARES WHAT'S PROPER TECHNIQUE?   OK, it takes a lot to get me excited on this list, but it really burns me to hear this attitude still in circulation. Born of the narcissism of the 60s--I wish it would have died a quiet death in the 80s, but it just doesn't seem to go away. First off to Matt Baker, proper technique is NOT an abstract academic monster designed by stubborn PhDs without any connection to genuine musicality. Some folks might teach it that way, but don't be fooled...technique is the only means of bringing your own musicality to life. If your technique is sloppy or inefficient, then you're stepping on your own feet--plain and simple. As a musician, I don't worry about some stereotypical stuffy DMA trying to stifle my creativity--I'm much more concerned with getting out of my own way and making music. Poor technique wastes energy and can cause injuries. Playing a heavy action with improper technique is an instant recipe for tendonitis and back pain. With smooth technique however, I can play for hours on even the heaviest instruments (e.g. Grace and Holy Trinity in Kansas City, MO) without any risk of injury. Proper technique reduces action noise and won't cause any damage to the instrument. Ham-fisted (footed) playing, however, makes a horrendous racket and tends to cause pallets to jump out of guides, trackers to snap, etc... Proper technique opens up a wealth of new repertoire for you. Are we still hung up on that !$%*&# notion from the 60s that studying proper technique is for academia and somehow "limits one's creativity"? Get real! The only thing that I find "limiting" is knowing that there are some licks and some repertoire that my chops still can't handle. Just like Justin, I had to relearn a lot of things in college and it was the best thing that ever happened to me. I'm still perfecting things even now! As I move into more challenging repertoire (e.g. Demessieux Etudes), I'm constantly forced to streamline my playing. No, it's not fun--it's hard work, but it's well worth it. Be grateful that someone was willing to point out your mistakes and help you work through them. As for who determines proper technique, there are a number of different answers, but it's best to learn from successful organists. Catherine Crozier, Marie-Claire Alain, and David Craighead would be the first "models" on my list. All of them can sit down at an extremely heavy action and play effortlessly. In the end, though, your teacher is responsible for identifying the problems in your technique and helping you fix them. Of course, this doesn't necessarily mean that you'll play with the SAME technique as your teacher, but you must work to develop a technique that is best suited for your own body. Case in point...I'm 6'0", weigh 145 lbs, and wear size 11 shoes. Eunyoung, one of my students, is about 5'1", wears a size 4, and looks to weigh around 110 lbs (no, I haven't picked her up). Obviously we play with very different techniques, and have different problems to master at the console. However, being "different" doesn't mean I'm going to let her "do her own thing" and get away with sloppy playing. You better believe she's working hard at developing an efficient technique. I'm NOT stifling her creativity in any way. Quite the contrary, I'm helping her to get out of her own way. Finally, haven't we had enough of organists who don't care about technique? Our profession has been suffering with the curse of the left-footed "chord organist" for half a century now. If we want the instrument to survive, we need to shape up and start showing people what the instrument can REALLY do.   RH     Robert Horton - DMA Student, University of Kansas 1603 West 15th St. #207A, Lawrence, KS 66044 http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~gemshorn/   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Robert Tilton, Tammy Faye and toooo much! From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 09:29:34 EST   OH,   Not to mention, how does one teach diction to those who speak/sing in tongues?   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Who DOESN'T care about proper technique? From: Robert Horton <gemshorn@ukans.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:08:20 -0600   At 03:00 AM 3/10/99 -0800, you wrote: >and I agree totally with those listers who stated that while people should be >free to do it "their way" to an extent, they should also base their techniques >on the proven techniques of others as much as possible. Yes. Although your wording opens this statement up to a lot of misundertanding. Paradoxically, doing it "their own way" involves a healthy dose of submitting "their way" to experts for analysis and correction. Most folks can't seem to fathom that.   Robert Horton - DMA Student, University of Kansas 1603 West 15th St. #207A, Lawrence, KS 66044 http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~gemshorn/   "Being a musician is rather like being a prostitute... ....first, you do it for fun, then you do it for a few friends, and finally you get paid for it."  
(back) Subject: Re: Marchal From: Jim Filsinger <kimballl@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 07:01:52 -0800 (PST)             ---Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Mea MAXIMA culpa! HOW could I forget MARCHAL??!! I DID hear HIM in person, > at St. Paul's Cleveland Heights on the big Holtkamp (the Holtkamp family's > parish church). The improvisation was an organ symphony on "Picardy", as I > recall. WOW! > > Cheers, > > Bud > > N Brown wrote: > > > Dear Bud, > > I would add to your list Andre Marchal. His playing of Bach was other > > worldly. Clean lines, bright registrations, beautiful pedalling, and, > > above all, Musicality. Just an incredible aural experience, (and that's > > on a CD!!) > > Neil > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >   _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com    
(back) Subject: RE: Robert Tilton, Tammy Faye and toooo much! From: "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:28:24 -0700       > Not to mention, how does one teach diction to those who > speak/sing in tongues?   Isn't this thread getting just a bit mean spirited now? You're moving away from personal insults and attacks to belittling an entire group.   Can we move on to more useful discussion, and take this one off list if you wish?   Dennis Goward      
(back) Subject: Re: Happy Organists From: Hitkmus@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:56:23 EST   Hi everyone: Since we're bragging, I'll jump in here with my two euros:   I changed positions (after 15 years) in November, from a Lutheran (going the way of "happy clappy, wonder bread service") to First Presbyterian, Palo Alto. This church has a fantastic history of "good music" under it's belt, and I feel honored that I and my director (also from the Lutheran church) have found this new church home. We are co-directors (I'm the organist and he's the director and we both work with the children's choir and your choir). The two pastors are extrememely supportive (the Sr. pastor has a degree in organ and studied a year in Germany).   The choir numbers 34-40 each week and present everything from acapella Ren. to Contemporary (Rutter, Vaughan Willliams, etc). We have a lit. dance group which works closely with us, in fact I've done organ recitals (concerts) with the leader of the dance group.   We have a 22 rank pipe organ that is a mix...the previous organist was also a tuner.   I can't believe how wonderful this place is!!! I LOVE IT!!! This proves there are great jobs out there, we just have to keep looking!   Sincerely, Lynda Alexander  
(back) Subject: RE: Robert Tilton, Tammy Faye and toooo much! From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@truelink.net> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:14:30 -0800   At 08:28 AM 3/10/1999 -0700, Dennis Goward wrote: lts and attacks to belittling an entire group. > >Can we move on to more useful discussion, and take this one off list if you >wish?   But Liltin' Tilton, Tammy Faye and their ilk make such INVITING targets! ;-)   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Robert Tilton, Tammy Faye and toooo much! From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:20:20 EST   In a message dated 3/10/99 9:30:10 AM Central Standard Time, dgoward@uswest.net writes:   << > Not to mention, how does one teach diction to those who > speak/sing in tongues? Isn't this thread getting just a bit mean spirited now? You're moving away from personal insults and attacks to belittling an entire group. Can we move on to more useful discussion, and take this one off list if you >>     Not at all meaning to be mean... just an honest question. But, I'll say no more about it... some folks are just too sensitive!   John  
(back) Subject: Re: C.S. Lang Piece Sought From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:32:04 EST   In a message dated 3/9/99 10:06:01 PM Central Standard Time, ScottFop@aol.com writes:   << I am looking for a copy or information on where I can obtain the anthem "Hail Gladdening Light" by C.S. Lang. >>   Scott,   I know that that particular anthem is on a CD entitled "English Anthems from Christ's Hospital". Perhaps you could contact the director to locate the anthem. The URL to info regarding the recording is: http://gothicrecords.com/gothic/enanfromchri.html   One can also go here:   http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000003YQ9/qid=921086306/sr=1-1/t/002-2 307591-0847052   to hear a RealPlayer recording of it ... and it sounds SCRUMPTIOUS! Let me know if you locate it... I'd love to have it for my choir too.   Good luck,   John  
(back) Subject: Re: C.S. Lang Piece Sought From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:41:50 EST   In a message dated 3/10/99 11:33:46 AM Central Standard Time, DRAWKNOB@aol.com writes:   << http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000003YQ9/qid=921086306/sr=1-1/t/002-2 307591-0847052 >>   HMMM, that's not working let's try it again!   http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000003YQ9/qid=921086306/sr=1-1/t/002-2 307591-0847052   -John  
(back) Subject: Re: C.S. Lang Piece Sought From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 13:14:59 EST   In a message dated 3/10/99 11:33:46 AM Central Standard Time, DRAWKNOB@aol.com writes:   "Hail Gladdening Light" by C.S. Lang may be heard via RealPlayer by following this link (I'm sure of it now!): <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000003YQ9/qid=921086306/sr=1- 1/t/002-2307591-0847052">English Anthems from Christ's Hospital</A>   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Who sets techique? (was Bish TBN time) From: "Daryl Robinson" <darylrobinson@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:28:38 PST   Yea know to be quite honest I don't give a damn if you people care about my opinion on Diane Bish. I am simply expressing my opinions and my teachers and many others feelings on the "First Lady of the Organ" If she did not have pizazz lets face it she would not have made in the organ world I could possibly assure you of that. My interpretation of Bach is possibly increibally different than Ms. Bish's but I think me and the academic world much more prfer mine, clean and slightly detachted with many retards to mark very clear phrases. I am only 14 yrs. old so maybe you would consider myself inferior to you but I really don't care I know what my stlye is and the persons stlye that I have to please most in the organ world at this point, my organ teacher, Dr. Jo Deen Blaine Davis. And I have also studied with Dr. Joyce Jones incase you wanted top know.   Daryl Robinson     >From: theorganist@webtv.net (William Lengyel) >Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >To: pipechat@pipechat.org (PipeChat) >Subject: Re: Who sets techique? (was Bish TBN time) >Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 00:09:55 -0500 (EST) > >Hi Listerettes/Listers, > >It may help, but I do not think it is or should be required. I didn't >have to learn how to drive (ride) a motorcycle before I drove a car. >Does a Doctor have to take a few years of Veterinary medicine before >going to med school? > >I spend 45 minutes 4 days a week on finger exercises. Have for 28 >years. > >I am a Realtor as well. If someone comes to me to purchase a 4,000 >square foot house, after living in a 400 square foot studio, I don't >tell them they should live in a 2000 square foot house for a few years >first. Piano before organ makes about as much sense. > >I am opinionated/stubborn but open minded. (American, 50/50 >German/Hungarian, whadda y'all expect)! > >Change my mind! > >Nite-Nite, >Bill > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >   Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Who sets techique? (was Bish TBN time) From: "Daryl Robinson" <darylrobinson@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:28:38 PST   Yea know to be quite honest I don't give a damn if you people care about my opinion on Diane Bish. I am simply expressing my opinions and my teachers and many others feelings on the "First Lady of the Organ" If she did not have pizazz lets face it she would not have made in the organ world I could possibly assure you of that. My interpretation of Bach is possibly increibally different than Ms. Bish's but I think me and the academic world much more prfer mine, clean and slightly detachted with many retards to mark very clear phrases. I am only 14 yrs. old so maybe you would consider myself inferior to you but I really don't care I know what my stlye is and the persons stlye that I have to please most in the organ world at this point, my organ teacher, Dr. Jo Deen Blaine Davis. And I have also studied with Dr. Joyce Jones incase you wanted top know.   Daryl Robinson     >From: theorganist@webtv.net (William Lengyel) >Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >To: pipechat@pipechat.org (PipeChat) >Subject: Re: Who sets techique? (was Bish TBN time) >Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 00:09:55 -0500 (EST) > >Hi Listerettes/Listers, > >It may help, but I do not think it is or should be required. I didn't >have to learn how to drive (ride) a motorcycle before I drove a car. >Does a Doctor have to take a few years of Veterinary medicine before >going to med school? > >I spend 45 minutes 4 days a week on finger exercises. Have for 28 >years. > >I am a Realtor as well. If someone comes to me to purchase a 4,000 >square foot house, after living in a 400 square foot studio, I don't >tell them they should live in a 2000 square foot house for a few years >first. Piano before organ makes about as much sense. > >I am opinionated/stubborn but open minded. (American, 50/50 >German/Hungarian, whadda y'all expect)! > >Change my mind! > >Nite-Nite, >Bill > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >   Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Northminster Church - Specs From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:45:14 -0500 (EST)     >Manual I: >8' Rohrfloete >4' Principal >2' Waldfloete >IV Mixtur >Manual II: >8' Gedackt >4' Spillfloete >2' Principal >II Sesquialtera >Pedal: >16' Bourdon =A0>=A0=A0=A0 8' Octave (in facade) =A0> 4' Flachfloete >Yes, I know there is no reed... but that little II > Sesquialtera on Manual II is really useful. ......tsssque! and noooo cheleste, nyether! But whom is counting!! hehehehe   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net    
(back) Subject: Re: Lack of Trompette on U.S. Positivs From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:59:44 -0500 (EST)     >(1) the lack of chorus reeds (Trumpet and > Clarion) on American Positive organs   >This has always bothered me, but not nearly > so much as hearing people try to use a > Krummhorn and neo-baroque Zimbel when > the music calls for "Anches Pos." I find it most > successful to leave the Positiv alone and add > the Great reeds in two stages. Add the Gt. > Trumpet 8' at "Anches P.", and then finish > adding the rest of the Great reeds (Clarion, > Fifteenth, Mixture, etc...) when it calls for > "Anches G.O." The Great reeds in two stages. This, of course, you find an organ with a reed on the Great hehehehehe It has always seemed curious that all our eggs seem to be in one basket: accompaniment stops, solo stops, chorus reeds -- all in the swell box! Ah the wonderful eclectic organ!!! ;-)         bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net    
(back) Subject: RE: Oak Cliff Lutheran Church - A GOOD JOB From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:02:36 -0500 (EST)   >I feel the same way where I'm at. Where your AT????   OOOOOOOOOOOOOH! The humanity!!!   (not to mention the grammar ;-)   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net    
(back) Subject: Re: Robert Tilton, Tammy Faye and toooo much! From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:26:37 -0500 (EST)     >Here's a thought... who here would consider > playing the organ at his church (would anyone > even admit to it?), just think -- how could you > keep a straight face and steady tempi? You didn't mention three important considerations: 1) what kind of organ 2) what kind of music 3) how huge the paycheck   ;-)   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net    
(back) Subject: Re: Robert Tilton, Tammy Faye and toooo much! From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:54:07 EST   In a message dated 3/10/99 2:28:01 PM Central Standard Time, cremona84000@webtv.net writes:   << 1) what kind of organ 2) what kind of music 3) how huge the paycheck >>   I'm sure the answers to the above questions would be similar to the following:     (Insert appropriate name changes)   TEMPLE OF KRISNA CONSCIOUSNESS Organist Position   THE ORGAN: Our instrument is made of bamboo, elephant tusks and monkey dung. It used to be a practice instrument at The University of Michigan.   PERSONAL QUALIFICATIONS: The organist must NOT be a Christian, Jew, or other unbeliever. The organist must accept the avatars of Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva. The organist must not be an Untouchable or have been a spider or snake in a previous life. The organist MUST have four arms.   DUTIES: The organist must play at all Ganges baptisms, at all sacrifices of virgins to the goddess Kali, and in all airport lobbies.   COMPENSATION: We can arrange it so that in your next life you can be something other than a church musician.   For further information, contact Swami Prabhupada.