PipeChat Digest #833 - Wednesday, May 5, 1999
Article for Organ Canada (Groningen) II
  by "CJSD" <noto@river.netrover.com>
Re: Richard Unfreid
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
slightly off topic....
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
  by "Jerry" <aqne@waveinter.com>
Bach and Buxtehude
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: Louis Vierne....
  by "HORTON ROBERT CARL" <gemshorn@falcon.cc.ukans.edu>
Re: playing the worship service..
  by "HORTON ROBERT CARL" <gemshorn@falcon.cc.ukans.edu>

(back) Subject: Article for Organ Canada (Groningen) II From: CJSD <noto@river.netrover.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 10:20:11 -0400 (EDT)   (Part II)   Today many of Hinsz's instruments survive in Groningen, and most are essentially intact. Many suffered the ravages of early 20th century "restorations", but have since been returned to Hinsz's specifications. The first new instrument built by Hinsz is found in Zandeweer (1731). Other instruments are found in Leens (1733), the Nicola=EFkerk in Appingedam (1744), Midwolda=20 (1772), and Uithuizermeeden (1785). Much of his work was also in the rebuilding, repair and maintenance of existing instruments.   We have the rivalry of provincial nobility to thank for most organs in Groningen. The instrument in Leens, for example, was ordered on the initiative of Anna Habbina Lewe, widow of Starkenborg, after a visit to the noble family in Zandeweer. The elaborate carvings on the organ case, many of them heraldic crests celebrating the noble family, are unmatched in the province of Groningen. Upon entering this mid-size remote village church, one is immediately struck by the attention to detail rendered on the woodwork of the case. The wood finishing on the organ case and elsewhere in the church in Leens is a true feast for the eyes and the organ is an object of pride for the present residents of this tiny and remote village. Annually, from May to October, organ recitals are held here each Saturday evening. The recital series is very well attended, and features many first rate players from various parts of the Netherlands and visiting organists from around the world. This recital series is now in its 30th year. This musical instrument is also a frequent stop on organ crawls from around the world.   Insert Leens Picture Here The Hinsz organ in the Nicola=EFkerk in the scenic town of Appingedam uses some pipework from a pre-existing instrument by an unknown builder in 1559 and later renovated in 1639 by Anthoni Waelckens and Daniel Bader. It has only two manuals and no independent pedal division, but instead pedal pull-downs from the Hoofdwerk. During the last restoration the reed pipes for the unique Cornet 2' were found lying at the top of the case and were reinstalled. As a pedal stop, the Cornet 2' is quite common in organs in the Netherlands, but this is the only example to be found anywhere of one in a manual division. The 13th century church is quite large, and has one of the finest acoustics for a dorpskerk (village or town church) in Groningen, with a four to five second reverberation time.   The new organ in the village of Midwolda was built for a new church in 1772. The old 13th century church was built on lower ground prone to floods, so a new church with a fashionable new organ was built in the village on higher ground in 1772. This instrument was and still is the largest organ in the rural province (outside the city of Groningen), with 33 independent stops over two manuals and a large independent pedal division. It was also the first organ to be tuned in equal temperament in the province.   The organ in Uithuizermeeden was Hinsz's last instrument. He passed away during its construction and the organ was completed Franz Caspar Schnitger Jr. and Heinrich Hermann Freytag. Again, like so many other organs in the province, the organ was paid for by the local nobility, along with the extravagantly carved pulpit and pews and an exquisite church tower. The organ replaced an instrument which is still partially in use in the church in the village of Niehove, built in 1632 by Anthoni Waelckens.   Franz Caspar Schnitger Jr. and Heinrich Hermann Freytag Franz Caspar Schnitger Jr., a stepson of Albert Anthoni Hinsz, and his business partner, Heinrich Hermann Freytag, carried on the Schnitger tradition of organ building in the province of Groningen. Though he built only a few organs under his own name, his instruments reflect a high standard of quality. The small organ he built in Bierum (1792) was built primarily to lead congregational song. To this end he provided it with a 16' Prestant in the treble of the manual, a low tierce Mixtuur, and a Trompet 8'. The organ is one manual with pedal pull downs. The "uppercase" at Bierum is a reflection the Hinsz organbuilding tradition; yet by providing a non-speaking "under positif," Franz Caspar Schnitger hearkens back to the earlier tradition of his grandfather, Arp Schnitger. The organs in Godlinze and Eenum, built by the senior Schnitger, each has an "underpositif". Other important instruments constructed by Freytag and Schnitger Jr. which still survive in the province can be found in Zuidhorn (1793) and Zuidbroek (1795).   When Franz Caspar Schnitger Jr. passed away in 1799, the Schnitger name and workshop were carried on in Groningen by Heinrich Hermann Freytag. His ten surviving organs show an even closer link to Arp Schnitger=92s tradition of organ building than other= more direct Schnitger pupils. His high standard of quality, and his advances in organ building techniques carry on the Arp Schnitger tradition of fine organ building. Whereas Hinsz's organs had a robust and round tonal character, the organs of Freytag exhibit a more slender and refined tone. Freytag made improvments in winding, pipe making and organ tone. His modern case designs are also striking. His organ in Finsterwolde (1808), one of his later new instruments, possesses a remarkable singing timbre. Again, the organ is a one manual instrument with pedal pull downs, although that one manual boasts no fewer than three 16' stops.   Freytag's last instrument was built for the church in Oostwold in 1811. He died during the construction of this organ, and the work was completed by his employees. This two manual organ with pedal pull downs is exceptionally suited to leading congregational song, thanks to the presence of a Trompet 8', a Dulciaan 8', a divided Mixtuur, and a Carillon III. He was the first in the northern Netherlands to use the Carillon stop. It replaced the Sexquialter and could be used in the plenum or for imitating bells.   The 19th Century Nineteenth century organ building displayed unusual conservatism, with mechanical action instruments staying in vogue throughout. Economic factors and Groningen's remoteness from the rest of the Netherlands may have played an important role in preserving so many historic instruments while many were being brutalised or replaced in other places. This does not mean that organ building ceased in the nineteenth century: on the contrary, builders did build many new instruments and did "restoration" work on existing organs. Indeed, nineteenth century fashions and tastes did show forth in organ building, but a very high standard of organ building and restoration in Groningen remained throughout the century.   Johan Willhelm Timpe, prolific in rebuilds and restorations, also provided new organs in the province. His largest, a three manual, 42 stop organ for the Nieuwekerk-of-Noorderkerk (New or North Church) in the city of Groningen was completed in 1831. The inspiration for this instrument came from the more famous 1738 Christian Muller organ in the St. Bavo, Haarlem. The Nieuwe Kerk, like so many in the Netherlands, had been without an organ since its construction in the 17th century. A precentor led congregational singing for more than a century and a half until the desire for an organ appeared in 1816, contributions solicited, and f.13,000 raised. Petrus van Oeckelen made a design based on the Haarlem organ. The contract was not signed directly because church authorities wanted to insure their ability to bear the financial responsibilities. The contract was later given to Timpe in 1829, but the organ was still based on van Oeckelen's design. Timpe's only other organ in the province is in the village of Middelbert (1822), but outside of the province he was a prolific builder, with instruments throughout the Netherlands. Timpe was born in 1770 in Osnabr=FCck, Germany and learned the organ building craft under the Lohman firm. He worked as foreman under Heinrich Hermann Freytag until the latter's death in 1811. He then set up his own business in Groningen in= 1812.   Significantly, of the 42 stops on this instrument in the Nieuwe Kerk, there is only one Mixtuur on each manual division. There are many 8' stops on each of the three manuals, and no mutations or sesquialteras. The organ shows a mixture of late classical and Biedermeier elements. The instrument functions optimally at the deliberate, unhurried pace inherent to congregational singing during the 19th century.   Lohman was another productive 19th century organ building family. It originated in East Frisia in Germany and moved to Groningen around 1790. This family were organ builders in the province for four generations, building organs throughout the Netherlands. This dynasty lasted until 1871, leaving behind it many fine examples of their work. The most brilliant found in the province of Groningen today is in the village of Farmsum.   The prolific organ builder Petrus van Oeckelen's two most important organs are in Saaxumhuizen and Middelstum. In the remote village of Saaxumhuizen van Oeckelen placed a two manual, 14 stop instrument with pedal pull- downs. No Mixtuur stop exists on this instrument, alhough there is a Cornet III in the treble range of the Hoofdwerk. The congregation in this remote village seems to have had ample funds, since a house was built at the same time as the organ specifically to house the organist!   A rather fine example of van Oeckelen's work can be found in the Hippolytuskerk in Middelstum. Historical sensibility in the 19th century not being like ours at the end of the 20th century, the church fathers found the old 17th century Waelckens organ very unfashionable and out of date, and it was completely torn out in 1863 so that the van Oeckelen instrument could =93considerably increase the beauty of the interior of the building=94. = Most builders of the time might have used material from the Waelckens organ, considering both cost and the material's quality =97 but van Oeckelen trashed the old organ completely. His large= two manual, 20 stop organ with pedal pull-downs is vintage van Oeckelen: square, robust and solid in both appearance and sound. An unusual feature of this organ is the free reed stop, the Clarinet 8'.=20 Van Oeckelen was the first to use this kind of stop in the northern= Netherlands.   In the second half of the 19th century churches began to feel the pain of fragmentation and secession. Until this point in history, the only Protestant church was the Nederlands Hervormde Kerk (known in North America as the "Reformed Church") and even today this body is the official state church of the Netherlands. The Hervormde Kerk was thought by some to be too liberal: among other things, this denomination was allowing a few, "unbiblical and humanly made" hymns to supplement the more orthodox Genevan Psalms of John Calvin's era. Led by a group in Ulrum, Groningen was the first province to split from the official church to form the Gereformeerede Church (known in North America as the Christian Reformed Church). Further splits occurred later in history leading to the formation of the Christelijk Gereformeerde Kerk (the Free Reformed Church) in 1927 and in 1944, the Vrijgemaakte Kerk, (the Canadian or American Reformed Churches). Further splits have taken place, and many afcheiders (separators) have taken their denominations around the world.   Seceders built new houses of worship in the province of Groningen and these required organs.=20 As they could be afforded, congregations purchased new or even used instruments. The used organs were often historic ones acquired from various parts of the Netherlands and Europe.=20 Many villages in Groningen now have at least three churches, the oldest and most prominent being the Nederlands Hervormed Kerk, a Gereformeerde Kerk and a Vrijgemaakte Kerk. Other smaller denominations may also be represented. All of these church communities will generally possess an organ of some sort to accompany congregational singing.   The 20th Century Groningen's early 20th century new organs were, once again, conservative when compared to those being built in the rest of the world. Mechanical action was preferred by builders and was used with few exceptions. No historically significant new instruments were built during this time, but many historical instruments were "restored", and some were even electrified.=20 Generally, the organ building craft in Groningen slowed.   The Orgelbewegung of the mid-century helped to raise awareness of this treasure trove of historical instruments. Organists such as Johan van Meurs (1903-1986), and Klaas Roelof Bolt (1927-1989), were among the early proponents of the preservation of these historic instruments.=20 Organ experts such as Cor Edskes and Stef Tuinstra are today making sure these historical instruments are carefully restored to their original specifications. Groningen organ building firms today, such as Mense Ruiter BV in Zuidwolde, Sicco Steendam BV in Roodeschool and Van der Putten BV in Finsterwolde, do high quality restoration and new organs in the province.   The organbuilder Jurgen Ahrend from nearby Loga bij Leer in Oost Friesland, Germany was given the job of restoring the important instrument in the Martinikerk in the 1970s and 1980s.=20 This instrument now stands as one of the most important historically in the world today.   Insert Martini Kerk Picture Here The Monumentzorg (a Dutch national government agency for the preservation of historical monuments) provides some funding for the thorough restoration of historic instruments in the country. Some Hervormed churches have closed down as active churches and these buildings and their contents are now under the care of the Stichting Oude Groninger Kerken (Society for the Preservation of Old Churches in Groningen). The Stichting, which has some 30 buildings under its care, is responsible for the restoration and preservation of both churches and their contents including organs. This Stichting works very closely with the Monumentzorg.   A society known as the Stichting Groninger Orgelland was formed in 1969 (the 250th anniversary of Arp Schnitger's death) to promote the organ culture in the province. Their publications have included Arp Schnitger en zijn werk in het Groninger land, a series of organ guides (with maps, explanations etc.) for organ enthusiasts day trips to various regions in Groningen, a recent publication on the work of A.A. Hinsz, and the production of a number of CD recordings. An important contribution to the CD literature is the 3 Cd box set recording entitled Orgelhistorie in Groningen. This active organisation is also responsible for the Groninger Orgeldag (North Netherlands Organ Day), held each year on the 2nd Saturday in May. In May of 1998 over 70 organs were open for the 129 participants to play. Also taking part were 3 organ building firms, who participated by opening their doors to the public. For the past fourteen years the Stichting has published an annual full colour Agenda, listing all the organ excursions and organ concerts for the province for the upcoming concert season. Its most recent opus is a five volume set of books documenting each organ in the province with a black and white photo of the organ, a history of the church building, and a full specification and history of the organ. According to this publication there are over 400 pipe organs in this small province today. This publication, entitled Het Groninger Orgelbezit van Adorp tot Zijldijk, contains references to every known public instrument in the province including instruments in music schools and hospital chapels.   Also active in the province is the Noord Nederlandse Orgel Acadamie, (North Netherlands Organ Acadamy) where private lessons are offered to professional and semi professional organists in organ literature, improvisation, continuo playing, and accompaniment of congregational song. Instruction is also offered in registrational practices and organ building.=20 The many fine historical organs in the province are used as teaching instruments.   Another teaching institution active in this region is the Internationale Groninger Orgelacadamie=20 Since 1990, Peter Westerbrink, artistic director, has brought together talented young Dutch organists for workshops, masterclasses and seminars. The Festival, held regularly at the famous 1695 Schnitger organ in Noordbroek, features guest lecturers, clinicians, and leaders on various aspects of performance practice. This academy also publishes books, music and various audio/visual materials.   In Uithuizen a monument consisting of a bronze angel figure holding two organ pipes stands in the "Arp Schnigter Garden" in recognition of his fine work in the province. This monument was built recently by the Placid International Oil Company Ltd., in recognition of the 300th anniversary of Arp Schnitger's birth.   In co-operation with neighbours to the east in Oost Friesland (East Frisia), Germany, an organ Festival entitled "The Dollard Festival" is held every other year for organ scholars and enthusiasts from around the world. The 10th Dollard Festival festival runs this year from Friday August 14 to Sunday August 22, 1999. The artistic directors for the Dollard Festival are Harald Vogel of the North German Academy and Peter Westerbrink, organist of the Der Aa-Kerk in Groningen. The Festival features some of the more important historic organs in the world today, and organists from around the world come here to study.   Groningen is one of the few places in the world where examples from five centuries of organ building still exist. Truly, this place is the "organ garden of the world."   My sincere thanks are due to the many organists, caretakers and members of organ commissions for their time and courtesy shown to me during my all-too-brief visit. To the following individuals I extended my deepest thanks: Peter Westerbrink, Jelte Hulzebos, Jan Oostindi=EBn, Ludolf Heikens, and Koos Dijkhuizen. History has left riches in your care. Thanks for their loving custody.   Simon R. Dyk is organist and choirmaster at the church of the Church of the Transfiguration in Toronto, Canada. He is an organ instructor and works for Gober Organs Inc. He has traced his family tree to 1680. All of his ancestors come from the province of= Groningen.       Sources/Recommended Reading:   The following a sources are all written in Dutch. A rough translation of each title is given:   Groninger Orgel Agenda, (Organ Agenda) 1995-1998, Stichting Groninger= Orgelland   Het Groninger Orgelbezit van Adorp to Zijldijk, Vols I-V, (The organs in Groningen from Adorp to Zijldijk) Stichting Groninger Orgelland 1993 - 1998   Orgelgids van de Eems-Dollard Regio, (Organ Guide to the Eems - Dollard= region) Arbeitgemeinschaft Fremendverkehrswerbung Oostfriesland, 1989   Orgeltocht door het noordwesten van de provincie Groningen, (Organ tour through the norwestern part of Groningen),Orgelroute gemeente Eemsmond, (Organ tour through the Eemsmond area of Groningen) Orgelroute Oldambt,(Organ tour through the Oldambt area of Groningen) Stichting Groninger Orgelland, 1997-1998   Een Kontskundig Orgelmaker, Enkele bijdragen over het werk van de orgelmaker Albertus Anthoni Hinsz (1704-1785), (A Talented organbuilder, Various aspects on the work of of the organ builder A. A. Hinsch) chief editor: Jan Jongepier, Stichting Groninger Orgelland, 1994   Orgelhistorie in Groningen, (CD booklet), Stichting Groninger Orgelland,= 1990   Nicola=EF Kerk, Appingedam, (A History of the Church) The Reformed= Congregation in Appingedam   Laat zich =91t orgel overal=85 , (Let the organ...) Rik Valkenburg, J.P. van= den Tol, Dordrecht, 1980   Musica '85, Bach Orgelintregale Groningen Stichting Bach 1985, Groningen, (Program book for the 300th anniversairy of Bach=92s birth) CIP Gegevens Koninklijke Bibliotheek, Den Haag, 1985   Vroomheid in hout en steen, Middeleeuwse kerken in Noord-Nederland (Faith in Wood and Stone, Churches of the Middle ages in the Northern Netherlands) Dr. Regn. Steensma, Bosch & Keuning N.V., Baarn, 1966=20   Heden en Verleden van de Nederlandse Hervormde Kerk te Uithuizermeeden, geschiedenes van kerk, toren orgel en interieur, (A History of the church, tower, organ and interior in Uithuizermeeden) Stichting Avondmuziek Uithuizermeeden, 1981   Jonkers tussen stad en wad, De Groningse borgen en haar bewoners, (Nobility between the City of Groningen and the Wadden Sea, The Groninger Houses of Nobility and their Inhabitants) W.A. Braasem, Nijgh & van Ditmar, =91sGravenhage, 1983   Betekenis van Arp Schnitger en de totstandkoming van zijn orgels, (Meaning of Arp Schnitger and the reasons for his many organs) an interview with Berhardt H. Edskes, Publicatie nr. 24 van de Stichting Groninger Orgelland 1998, http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Strasse/8779/index.html   Kerken in Groningen, (Churches in Groningen) Ada van Deijk, Stichting Oude Groninger Kerken, Walburg Pers., Zutphen, 1995   Het Gezicht van Nederland-Groningen, (The Face of the Netherlands-Groningen: a history) Theo Dohle, Uniepers Abcoude/Stchting Het Gezicht van Nederland, 1993   Een Stoere Stad (A history of the City of Groningen durring the Middle= Ages) http://www.dsg.nl/stoer/inhoud.html, 1998 Kor Feringa     Insert Orgel Route Map here             Orgelroute gemeente Eemsmond   Following the dotted line (from east to west) one can encounter the following organs. Total distance is about 15 miles (24 kilometres).   Oosteinde: (Hervormde Kerk) 2 manual with pedal-pulldowns, 14 stops, mechanical action, P. Van Oekelen 1874   Roodeschool: (Gereformeerde Kerk) combination pipe and electronic,48 stops ,2 manuals & pedal, Pels, 1908/1991   Roodeschool: (Vrijgemaakte Kerk) 9 stops, 1 manual, mechanical action, Eertman,1908   Oosternieland: (originally Hervormde Kerk) 1 manual, 5 stops, (cabinet organ) mechanical action , Albertus Van Gruisen , 1805   Uithuizermeeden: (Hervormde Kerk) 2 manuals& pedal, 28 stops, mechanical action A.A. Hinsz, 1785   Uithuizermeeden: (Hervormde Kerk ,choir organ) 3 stops, 1 manual, mechanical action, Streichert, 1976   Uithuizermeeden: (Gereformeerde Kerk), 22 stops, 2 manuals and pedal, mechanical action, Mense Ruiter, 1980   Uithuizermeeden: (Vrijgemaakte Kerk), 14 stops, 2 manuals and pedal, mechanical action, Mense Ruiter ,1985   Uithuizen (Menkemaborg)11 stops,1 manual, (Cabinet organ), mechanical action, H.A. Groet 1777   Uithuizen: (Doopgezinde Kerk [Mennonite Church]), 9 stops, 1 manual, free= pedal, electro-pneumatic action, Standaart, 1916   Uithuizen (St. Jacobikerk Hervormde kerk) 28 stops, 2 manuals & pedal , mechanical action , Arp Schnitger, 1700=20   Uithuizen (Gereformeerde Kerk) 12 stops, 2 manuals and pedal, mechanical action, E.F. Walcker, 1878 (organ placed in this church in 1907)   Uithuizen : (Roman Catholic Church) 12 stops, 2 manuals & pedal, electropneumatic action Maarshcalkerweerd, 1908     Zandeweer: (Hervormde Kerk) 2manuals & pedal pulldowns, 13 stops, mechancial action, A.A. Hinsz ,1731   Kantens: (Hervormde Kerk) 1 manual and pedal pulldowns, 10 stops, mechanical action, unknown original builder, mid 17th century   Kantens: (Gereformeerde Kerk) 8 stops, 1 manual with pedal pulldowns, mechanical action , van den Berg & Wendt, 1963   Kantens: (Vrijgemaakte Kerk) 10 stops, 1 manual and pedal, mechanical and electropneumatcic action, early 1900s, unknown original builder,(organ placed in this church in 1985 by Bakker en Timmenga)     Rottum: (Originally Hervormde Kerk) 7 stops, 1 manual, pedal-pulldowns, mechanical action, N.A.G. Lohman , 1862   Usquert: (Originally Hervormde Kerk)16 stops, 2 manuals & pedal, mechanical action, P. van Oeckelen ,1852   Warffum: (Hervormde Kerk) 2 manuals and pedals , 24 stops, mechanical and electro pneumatic action, J.W. Timpe, 1812   Warffum: (Gereformeerde Kerk), 15 stops, 2 manuals and pedal, mechanical action, Spoorman, 1783, (organ placed in this church in 1906) =20 Breede: (Hervormde Kerk) 2 manuals and pedal-pulldowns, mecahanical action, P. van Oeckelen , circa 1840=20   ************************************************************ Simon Dyk Toronto Canada   GOBER ORGANS INC. http://www.interlog.com/~goberorg CHURCH OF THE TRANSFIGURATION http://www.interlog.com/~transfig/trans.htm PERSONAL HOME PAGE: http://www.netrover.com/~noto/gober/~noto.html   =20    
(back) Subject: Re: Richard Unfreid From: DudelK@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 10:26:38 EDT   In a message dated 99-05-05 01:29:17 EDT, you write:   << anyone know what happened to Richard Unfreid when he left >the Crystal Cathedral?<snip> >> He was at the American Classic Organ Symposium in Salt Lake City in January and I had a very pleasant chat with him. E-mail me privately if you wish his address. He's playing at a church in southern Californika, but I forget which one.  
(back) Subject: slightly off topic.... From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 10:32:52 EDT   hey gang,   I thought this was cute, and decided to pass it along.   5 reasons to hate the new millennium   5. No one can spell it!!   4. There are 2000 books on the subject!!!   3. You calculated how old you'd be in the year 2000 when you were a kid, and now you're it!!!   2. Your new software might be called "Curtains 3000"!!!   .....and the number one reason for hating the new millennium.....   There's only 999 years until Y3K!!!   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: humor From: Jerry <aqne@waveinter.com> Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 10:43:15 -0400     Why Don't I See You?   A friend was in front of me coming out of church one day, and as always the preacher was standing at the door shaking hands as the congregation departed.   He grabbed my friend by the hand and pulled him aside.   The Pastor said to him, "You need to join the Army of the Lord!"   My friend replied, "I'm already in the Army of the Lord, Pastor."   Pastor questioned, "How come I don't see you except for Christmas and Easter?"   He whispered back, "I'm in the secret service."        
(back) Subject: Bach and Buxtehude From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 10:57:55 EDT   greetings fellow Johann Sebastians,   anyone out there play the Prelude & Fugue in g minor of Buxtehude? I think it's an amazing piece, and I love his music. I also think it's cool that Bach, while a young student at St. Micheal's. travelled to Luneberg to hear Buxtehude play. It was there at the Marian Kirke (spelling), that for the first time, evening musicales were held. These 'concerts' featured choir and organ and solo organ. I also find it impressive that this church was the largest church in the world, up through the Middle Ages. It's nice to know that composers sometimes knew each other, sometimes even influencing each other.   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: wondering... From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 11:09:05 EDT   either most of you don't like my posts, or you all haven't made it to your computers yet.....maybe I should be a little less technical when I post things. Should I keep things simple?   c.p.     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Louis Vierne.... From: HORTON ROBERT CARL <gemshorn@falcon.cc.ukans.edu> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 10:48:59 -0500 (CDT)   On Tue, 4 May 1999, Carlo Pietroniro wrote: > I was reading up on the life of Louis Vierne, and I came > across something very interesting. When he died in 1937, he had not yet > begun composing his 7th symphony, which would have been in C major. Actually, if he had continued the pattern, it would probably have been in C# Minor. The key order of the six Symphonies is as follows.   D E F# G A B   ....and they're all in minor keys. So, to complete the pattern we'd need C# Minor. IMO, a Symphonie in C# Minor would have been even better than C Major.   Rob    
(back) Subject: Re: playing the worship service.. From: HORTON ROBERT CARL <gemshorn@falcon.cc.ukans.edu> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 10:50:38 -0500 (CDT)   Carlo wrote: > do. Most people won't even notice. Also, I think it should be mandatory, or > at least high on organists' lists of priorities, to have several pieces, > both long and short, memorized, in the event that something goes awry with > one's music for the postlude or whatever part of the service calls for an > organ solo. We should also all be able to play introductions, interludes and   Well Carlo, I've got just one word...IMPROVISE   Rob