PipeChat Digest #835 - Thursday, May 6, 1999
 
Fw: more on consoles, etc.
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Fw: Fw: trompette en chamade...
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Fw: Fw: more on consoles, etc.
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: memorizing the service
  by <Icorgan@aol.com>
Re. 5-manual Wicks organ
  by <wdavis@electrotex.com>
another mystery machine
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: just curious...........
  by "Bruce Behnke" <behnke@lvcm.com>
Looking for Ken Double
  by <Posthorn8@aol.com>
Re: 3-manual vs 4-manual
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Richard Unfreid
  by <Steskinner@aol.com>
Re: Richard Unfreid
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@truelink.net>
Organ Concert
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: Stop Noise
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: when a pipe organ component fails
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Louis Vierne....
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Organ Concert
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: request for copies!!
  by <HDKarras@aol.com>
Re: 3-manual vs 4-manual
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Organ Concert
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: 3-manual vs 4-manual
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Organ Concert....
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Organ Builder's director
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Organ Concert
  by "domenico severin" <dseverin@club-internet.fr>
re: stop noise.........
  by "jon" <jonberts@swbell.net>
Organ registration.
  by "domenico severin" <dseverin@club-internet.fr>
Re: request for copies!!
  by "Rod Murrow" <murrows@pldi.net>
Organ registration
  by "domenico severin" <dseverin@club-internet.fr>
Re: Organ registration.
  by "domenico severin" <dseverin@club-internet.fr>
 


(back) Subject: Fw: more on consoles, etc. From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 21:27:40 -0500   I have seen theatre consoles where two's were made into three's. It threw off the whole perspective of the dimensions --too top-heavy looking, and laughable.   Rick V.   -----Original Message----- From: MickBerg@aol.com <MickBerg@aol.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 2:41 PM Subject: Re: more on consoles, etc.     >I have a Klann console with similar layout. Couplers on black drawknobs at >the bottom, octave couplers (white) at the top, stops in the middle. When I >acquired it, someone had rammed a completely useless fourth manual into it, >and stuck the music rack right at the top of the console (using drywall >screws! ) After spending a very short time thinking how impressive and huge >this was, I removed the fourth manual (there weren't even any wires attached >to it!) and put the music rack where it originally was, directly above the >swell, and the console is now very comfortable, rather like a tracker organ. >Moral: Don't mess with things unless you really are sure you will improve >them. Things usually are best the way they were originally conceived. >All I have to do now is learn how to play properly! >Mick Berg. > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Fw: Fw: trompette en chamade... From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 21:28:35 -0500   GOOD REPLY, RICK.......   -----Original Message----- From: RMaryman@aol.com <RMaryman@aol.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 8:59 PM Subject: Re: Fw: trompette en chamade...     >In a message dated 99-05-04 22:52:07 EDT, you write: > ><< > I used to watch Dr. Kennedy when I lived in Florida. He's too political, but > that's for another list. However, it seems everytime the organist plays, > he/she has the same registration set on every manual and changes manuals for > the cameras only. > Any rebuffs on this? > > Rick V. >> >SHHHHH!!! Don't give Darryl & Diane's secrets away !!! > >(please, no flames, I 'm just kidding) > >Rick M > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Fw: Fw: more on consoles, etc. From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 22:02:21 -0500   Well, excuuuuse me, Tommy. Hee-hee. Remember the awful look Don Baker had on his face whenever he played it? I don't think he liked the monkey bit too much.   Rick V.   -----Original Message----- From: Tom Hoehn <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> To: dutchorgan@svs.net <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 9:53 PM Subject: Re: Fw: more on consoles, etc.     >Ricky - - > >You shouldn't be making fun of the old J. Burns/Tampa console like >that! You remember how skinny and tall it was-- >I personally REPAINTED it twice and resprayed (w/gold spray paint) all >of the gold trim work. >When the instrument was installed we decided to add the gold trim in >what we termed as TASTEFULLY TACKY. > >tjh > > > >VEAGUE wrote: >> >> I have seen theatre consoles where two's were made into three's. It threw >> off the whole perspective of the dimensions --too top-heavy looking, and >> laughable. >> >> Rick V. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: MickBerg@aol.com <MickBerg@aol.com> >> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> >> Date: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 2:41 PM >> Subject: Re: more on consoles, etc. >> >> >I have a Klann console with similar layout. Couplers on black drawknobs at >> >the bottom, octave couplers (white) at the top, stops in the middle. When I >> >acquired it, someone had rammed a completely useless fourth manual into it, >> >and stuck the music rack right at the top of the console (using drywall >> >screws! ) After spending a very short time thinking how impressive and huge >> >this was, I removed the fourth manual (there weren't even any wires >> attached >> >to it!) and put the music rack where it originally was, directly above the >> >swell, and the console is now very comfortable, rather like a tracker >> organ. >> >Moral: Don't mess with things unless you really are sure you will improve >> >them. Things usually are best the way they were originally conceived. >> >All I have to do now is learn how to play properly! >> >Mick Berg. >> > >> >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >> >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >> >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> > >> >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >> HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >> List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: memorizing the service From: Icorgan@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 23:05:56 EDT   Bud, After 40 years in this business, I heartily agree. Too many things can go wrong that we are expected to cover up, especially from the pulpit or the altar, and we all know who hangs out there :)   In all fairness to ministers, I've had a choir director or two who has caused me a few tense moments. And I've created one or two myself.   I say, keep the music in front of you. Leave the memorized stuff for the recital hall. Anyway, I have a lousy memory. Maynard  
(back) Subject: Re. 5-manual Wicks organ From: wdavis@electrotex.com Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 22:10:47 -0500 (CDT)   That organ was dedicated by Alec Wyton, who was living in Dallas at the time (1950.) He declared it to be one of the finest instruments he had ever played. The console was featured in a newspaper article and was on display in the Nieman-Marcus store window for a while before being installed. It had more lights than a Christmas tree, and with a zillion stop tabs, it was of course highly, highly unified.   Gaston Ave. Baptist Church is no more -- the changing inner-city (near East Dallas) brought about a need to move, and the church is now called something like Gaston Oaks Church and is relocated some place -- they took the Wicks with them. Their large buildings now house a Baptist college.   Walter W. Davis Corpus Christi TX  
(back) Subject: another mystery machine From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 22:12:16 -0500   A fellow organ/ piano man was in my shop today helping me work on a DuoArt upright- ca 1927. Anyhow, he mentioned an +ACI-organ+ACI- he saw years ago that was the fore-runner of the Hammond. It was named the Chelso Celeste, made in ??Boston?? It had Hammond-type tone wheels, but about eighteen to twenty inches in diameter. The instrument took up as much space in pipe chambers, and had a pneumatic harp, chimes, and swell shades. He cannot recall what type of amplification and speakers the thing had, but it was installed in swell boxes, and used a Skinner console.   Any input??   Rick V. (J.Burn's Pizza fan)          
(back) Subject: Re: just curious........... From: Bruce Behnke <behnke@lvcm.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 99 20:14:26 -0700   >Need I say more? Please don't.....   Bruce      
(back) Subject: Looking for Ken Double From: Posthorn8@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 23:12:27 EDT   Hi list, Does anyone know the e-mail address for Theatre Organist Ken Double?   Thanks,   Tim  
(back) Subject: Re: 3-manual vs 4-manual From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 23:28:13 -0400 (EDT)   A question for organ builders:   Would it be possible on a mechanical action organ to have a "floating" stop (tuba, whatever...) by having action but no keyboard, and couplers (Tuba to Positiv etc)?   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   The best way to bet a puppy is to beg for a baby brother -- and they'll settle for the puppy every time. -- Winston Pendelton      
(back) Subject: Re: Richard Unfreid From: Steskinner@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 23:53:58 EDT   In a message dated 5/5/99 12:51:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, concert_organist@hotmail.com writes:   << anyone know what happened to Richard Unfreid when he left the Crystal Cathedral? Where did he end up? >>   After the Crystal Cathedral, Richard was organist at Community (Pres) Church in San Marino (near Pasadena), succeeding Mary Elizabeth Caldwell. He then went to the Evangelical Free Church in Fullerton, home of the 4/73 rank 1985 Wicks. I believe he is still there.   Steven Skinner First Presbyterian Church of the Covenant Erie, PA  
(back) Subject: Re: Richard Unfreid From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@truelink.net> Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 21:33:08 -0700   At 11:53 PM 5/5/1999 EDT, Steskinner@aol.com wrote:   >After the Crystal Cathedral, Richard was organist at Community (Pres) Church >in San Marino (near Pasadena), succeeding Mary Elizabeth Caldwell. He then >went to the Evangelical Free Church in Fullerton, home of the 4/73 rank 1985 >Wicks. I believe he is still there.<snip>   Pasadena...yup! That's Harold Unfried's son. Harold and I worked together at Pacific Tel & Tel. Harold was "Mister K Carrier", and hired into the Southern California Telephone and Telegraph Co. in 1939! I was a new hire, so I got the pleasure of working with Harold, one of the highest senior people in the Company at that time, and me being one of the most junior, until he retired in 1980. He did mention his son was an organist, but I was inactive at that time, and never did get to meet him.   If anyone gets a message to Richard Unfried, tell him that there's an organist that used to work with his Dad at the Grand Complex! Talk about a small world.... The 'Net makes the world VERY tiny!   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Organ Concert From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 15:02:44 EDT   Greetings,                    I will be playing a concert tonight, here in Montreal. It'll be at "Mary Queen of the World" cathedral, which houses an amazing 4-manual Casavant built in 1933. It has over 130 ranks and the sound that comes out of this monster is amazing. I know you all can't be here tonight, so I thought I'd list the pieces I'll be playing, just to get an idea of what I'll be playing.   Now Thank We All Our God----------->Bach/Fox Fountain Reverie------------------>Percy Fletcher Festival Toccata------------------->Percy Fletcher Five Flute Clocks-------------------->Haydn Toccata in F major--------------------->Bach ------Intermission-------------- Carillon de Westminster------------->Louis Vierne Humoresque (toccatina for flute)--------->Pietro Yon Gigue Fugue--------------Bach Bolero de Concert------------>Lefebure-Wely Sinfonia #29------------->Bach O Run Ye Shepherds-------------Max Drischner Toccata on "Christ the Lord is Risen Today"-------->Diane Bish     Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Stop Noise From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:38:03 +0100   >The 24rank Schantz I play utilizes slider chests. When a stop tab is depressed, a neat little thunky sound occurs--these thunky sounds actually change pitch depending on the stops. I love the fact that cyphers are virtually nonexistent, and the above mentioned organ was beautifully crafted. My only real beef with it is that in the heat of the battle, you don't get an instantaneous sound when you throw on a stop (with exception of reeds and pedal stops which are not on sliders). There is always a slight delay. The listener probably doesn't care, but it bothers the dickens out of me. I've learned to adjust accordingly--play everything lento or adagio :). Just kidding!! The pneumatic swell shades are a hoot. They whistle at me from time to time. Don't know what they're thinking, but at least I know they're working!! --Neil Brown, AAGO, MMus > Barnegat, NJ USA     I find that when I press a piston, I have to do it about 3/4 of a second (same with a stop knob) before it is needed. It is second nature to me now, but when I get friends to stop pull for me they can never grasp that 3/4 of a second!   Richard. =========================================================   This message was sent to you by Richard Pinel. rpinel@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk   "I dropped my toothpaste," Tom said, crestfallen    
(back) Subject: Re: when a pipe organ component fails From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:42:34 +0100   >I have only encountered sagging languids once, and that was in the >facade pipes of a turn-of-the-century Hook and Hastings, probably due to >folks poking at them as much as anything (they were within reach).     When I played at King's Cambridge, the organbuilders had just finished tuning, and they came up to me and Stephen Cleobury and said that several of the facade pipes were about to collapse at the bottom!! He panicked...   Richard. =========================================================   This message was sent to you by Richard Pinel. rpinel@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk   This message has achieved Air superiority.    
(back) Subject: Re: Louis Vierne.... From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:25:14 +0100   >hey gang, > > I was reading up on the life of Louis Vierne, and I came >across something very interesting. When he died in 1937, he had not yet >begun composing his 7th symphony, which would have been in C major. By the >way, that would have been amazing! I also read that when he died, he had >already begun an improvisation on the latin tune "Alma Redemptoris Mater". >Does anyone know how far he had progressed in the composition and if the >manuscript was ever made available? It would be neat to see it. > >Carlo >     Indeed, Vierne intended to write 10 symphonies (just the same as Widor), and the 7th was in early planning stages, but him dying sorta got in the way!!!   Richard. =========================================================   This message was sent to you by Richard Pinel. rpinel@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk   Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do    
(back) Subject: Organ Concert From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 09:41:16 EDT   Greetings,   I will be playing a concert tonight, here in Montreal. It'll be at "Mary Queen of the World" cathedral, which houses an amazing 4-manual Casavant built in 1933. It has over 130 ranks and the sound that comes out of this monster is amazing. I know you all can't be here tonight, so I thought I'd list the pieces I'll be playing, just to get an idea of what I'll be playing.   Now Thank We All Our God----------->Bach/Fox Fountain Reverie------------------>Percy Fletcher Festival Toccata------------------->Percy Fletcher Five Flute Clocks-------------------->Haydn Toccata in F major--------------------->Bach ------Intermission-------------- Carillon de Westminster------------->Louis Vierne Humoresque (toccatina for flute)--------->Pietro Yon Gigue Fugue--------------Bach Bolero de Concert------------>Lefebure-Wely Sinfonia #29------------->Bach O Run Ye Shepherds-------------Max Drischner Toccata on "Christ the Lord is Risen Today"-------->Diane Bish   I hope everything goes well.   Carlo   p.s. If you have nothing nice to say, then don't say anything...=)     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: request for copies!! From: HDKarras@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 03:38:59 EDT   Hi Rodney,   your writing is for me, like an german office director. Of course, some copys maybe illegal, most pieces, for that we looking are out of print. And the only way to receive that piece, is this newsgroup with many other organfanatics and to copy from their original. This isn't illegal and the only way to save some interesting music from unknown or forgotten composers and bring them in to the public around the world. Please be patient with all members of Pipechat!   Hans-Dieter Karras Concertorganist, Composer Musicdirector Lutheran Church St.Ulrici, Braunschweig Lector by "prospect" music publishing corp., helmstedt, germany  
(back) Subject: Re: 3-manual vs 4-manual From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:27:32 EDT   In a message dated 5/5/99 6:23:46 PM Central Daylight Time, gemshorn@falcon.cc.ukans.edu writes:   << Schudi organ where Todd Wilson recorded the Durufle integrale. The third manual is nothing more than a Cornet separee and Phallic Trumpet. >>   OH MY! I've never heard of a Phallic Trumpet... Is it similar, in scale, to a skin flute? Just curious. :-)   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Concert From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 16:27:30 EDT   Carlo,   Your concert sounds like a winner.... have fun playing that huge organ!   By the way, will your concert be recorded?   Break a leg!   John  
(back) Subject: Re: 3-manual vs 4-manual From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 20:23:30 +0100   >Aside from the prestige aspect, it WAS more useful on those old >four-manual organs to have the Solo Tuba Miraculous isolated on a fourth >manual so you could play it against the full Swell-Great-Choir coupled. >Of course, except on the largest organs, the Choir divisions were pretty >much useless for adding anything to the full sound, since they were >usually just collections of soft stops with no real flue or reed >choruses, so you could have accomplished the same thing by putting the >Tuba on the Choir manual (the usual practice in 3-manual romantic >English organs) and leaving off the Solo manual altogether. The Tuba >lived on the Choir manual at Dr. Willan's church (St. Mary Magdalene, >Toronto) before the rebuild; I don't know if that's still the case. > >Aside from the Tuba, there really WASN'T much of a reason for making a >fourth manual ... it usually controlled an 8' Diapason-en-chamade, a big >honkin' 8' flute, a huge string and celeste, and a collection of >orchestral voices (French Horn, English Horn, Orchestral Clarinet, >Orchestral Oboe, etc.). > >I've played a couple of modern organs where the fourth manual was either >the Choir or the Positiv (they had both), but don't see much sense in >that ... if you wanted either, you wanted them on the bottom manual, so >you always ended up coupling them anyway. > >Being shaped like the proverbial tea-pot (short and stout), I can't >reach most fourth manuals anyway (grin). > >With today's electronic gadgets, it's not necessary to build a fourth >manual just to isolate the Tuba, at least not on an electric action >organ. John-Paul Buzard has built a couple of two-manual organs with a >Tuba Solo coupler, similar to a Swell to Great Melody coupler, except >that it only plays the (floating) Tuba on the highest note of the chord, >rather than an entire division. > >It's also possible to make the Tuba non-coupling (as on the organ at St. >Andrew's-by-the-Sea in Pacific Beach, CA) ... the Tuba resides on the >Swell, but isn't affected by inter or intra-manual couplers, so you can >still couple the full Swell to the Great to accompany it. It also draws >the Swell Unison Off automatically, so the rest of the Swell is silent >on the Swell manual when the Tuba is playing. > >I can't think of much serious organ literature (other than Sowerby and a >couple of other composers of that era) that require four manuals. >Personally, I'd rather have three COMPLETE manual divisions, rather than >starving the three to make a fourth. > >Cheers, > >Bud > >     On our organ, there are 3 good sized manuals (although the choir is really a baroque chair type organ). There is also a floating division of one stop - the 8' Orchestral Trumpet. It has 2 stop knobs - Orch Trumpet to Swell, and the same to choir. Unfortunately it really does couple this stop to the manual making the whole thing incredibly heavy to play. If you couple the thing to swell, then swell to great only the odd squeaks happen instead of the trumpet playing properly. Up until about 2 months ago, if you coupled the trumpet to both swell and choir, then both to great, it would sound, but for some unknown reason it doesn't work now.   Richard. =========================================================   This message was sent to you by Richard Pinel. rpinel@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk   I don't have time to wait for instant gratification    
(back) Subject: Organ Concert.... From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 11:12:54 EDT   Greetings,                    I will be playing a concert tonight, here in Montreal. It'll be at "Mary Queen of the World" cathedral, which houses an amazing 4-manual Casavant built in 1933. It has over 130 ranks and the sound that comes out of this monster is amazing. I know you all can't be here tonight, so I thought I'd list the pieces I'll be playing, just to get an idea of what I'll be playing.   Now Thank We All Our God--->Bach/Fox Fountain Reverie------->Percy Fletcher Festival Toccata--------->Percy Fletcher Five Flute Clocks-------->Haydn Toccata in F major------>Bach ------Intermission-------------- Carillon de Westminster------->Louis Vierne Humoresque (toccatina for flute)----->Pietro Yon Gigue Fugue----->Bach Bolero de Concert------>Lefebure-Wely Sinfonia #29------->Bach O Run Ye Shepherds------>Max Drischner Toccata on "Christ the Lord is Risen Today"----->Diane Bish   Carlo       ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Organ Builder's director From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 18:29:51 -0400 (EDT)   I just received the NAPALM journal which has and Organ Builders Director. I includes 115 builders. I found it very interesting that of those 115 builders, 74 build mechanical action organs, and 21 build mechanical action exclusively. There were two builders that I know of which were obvious omissions, both tracker builders.   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   The best way to bet a puppy is to beg for a baby brother -- and they'll settle for the puppy every time. -- Winston Pendelton      
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Concert From: domenico severin <dseverin@club-internet.fr> Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 01:17:07 +0200   p.s. If you have nothing nice to say, then don't say anything...=)   Walt Disney - Bambi  
(back) Subject: re: stop noise......... From: jon <jonberts@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 18:38:20 -0500   What a pity....waiting on a windchest to do it's job so you can play music. The whole point of changes/improvements in organs thru the years was to make actions quick and quiet. As bad as the organ is that I play on, I don't have to wait for some stops to come on to play.....they do come on quickly.   Jon Bertschinger    
(back) Subject: Organ registration. From: domenico severin <dseverin@club-internet.fr> Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 01:37:49 +0200   I'm publishing a book about organ registration . Italian , French, English, Spain and Germany schools are treated from 1600 since 1900. If anyone knows material that i can use, please, let me know. DOMENICO  
(back) Subject: Re: request for copies!! From: Rod Murrow <murrows@pldi.net> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 18:41:52 -0500   I apologize for sounding like a "german office director" regarding the copyright laws. But I have to stand firm - just because a piece of music is POP (permanently out of print) does NOT give anyone permission to make photocopies of it. In order to do so legally, at least here in the USA, you must secure the permission of the owner of the copyright (usually the publisher), who may or may not grant permission to make one copy for your personal use.   Sorry, but that's the law (however, if the music is in the "public domain" then go ahead and crank up the copy machines!!).   Rodney Murrow   HDKarras@aol.com wrote:   > Hi Rodney, > > your writing is for me, like an german office director. > Of course, some copys maybe illegal, most pieces, for that we looking are out > of print. And the only way to receive that piece, is this newsgroup with many > other organfanatics and to copy from their original. This isn't illegal and > the only way to save some interesting music from unknown or forgotten > composers and bring them in to the public around the world. Please be patient > with all members of Pipechat! > > Hans-Dieter Karras > Concertorganist, Composer > Musicdirector Lutheran Church St.Ulrici, Braunschweig > Lector by "prospect" music publishing corp., helmstedt, germany    
(back) Subject: Organ registration From: domenico severin <dseverin@club-internet.fr> Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 01:39:53 +0200   I'm publishing a book about organ registration . Italian , French, English, Spain and Germany schools are treated from 1600 since 1900. If anyone knows material that i can use, please, let me know. DOMENICO  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ registration. From: domenico severin <dseverin@club-internet.fr> Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 01:43:33 +0200   If someone is interested at my book about organ registration from 1600 to 1900, you can see the index in my Web page : http://perso.club-internet.fr/dseverin/ for orders, email me. DOMENICO