PipeChat Digest #841 - Sunday, May 9, 1999
 
Re: Springfield Steere Xposted
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: [musiclassical] 7 MAY (fwd)
  by "R A Campbell" <rcampbel@U.Arizona.EDU>
Re: Cut and paste
  by "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Wedding reguest... NOT
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@truelink.net>
Re: Wedding programme...
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@truelink.net>
Re: Wedding reguest... NOT
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: Louis Vierne....
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Louis Vierne....
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Louis Vierne....response on "last moments"
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Wedding programme...
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Wedding reguest... NOT
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
being Liturgically correct...
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: Cut and paste
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
another coupled hitched
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Fw: Cut and paste
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
church music...
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: Cut and paste
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
cut & paste...
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: another coupled hitched
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
my choir and the death of Louis Vierne...
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: my choir and the death of Louis Vierne...
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
Re: Wedding reguest... NOT
  by "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com>
Re: Wedding reguest... NOT
  by "Sand Lawn" <sandlawn@prodigy.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Springfield Steere Xposted From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 07:09:20 -0400 (EDT)   I musta missed the beginning of this. What is the size, etc of the Springfield Steere??   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   The best way to bet a puppy is to beg for a baby brother -- and they'll settle for the puppy every time. -- Winston Pendelton      
(back) Subject: Re: [musiclassical] 7 MAY (fwd) From: R A Campbell <rcampbel@U.Arizona.EDU> Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 06:00:33 -0700 (MST)   I e-mailed the originator who will provide the almanac material for earlier distribution. I think we can get them to you in advance. We'll see. Regards, RAC     > Definitely. I WISH, though, that such lists would be posted a week earlier > than they are so someone can DO something with the info. > > Alan Freed   R. A. Campbell, KUAT Communications-Modern Languages Building P.O.Box 210067 University of Arizona, Tucson AZ 85721    
(back) Subject: Re: Cut and paste From: "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 10:13:09 -0400   And if you want just a little piece here and there, pick up enough to include what you want, and then delete what is extraneous. It works. Maybe there's an even better way, which I hope we'll hear about.   Alan   ---------- >From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> >To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Subject: Re: Cut and paste >Date: Sat, May 8, 1999, 12:57 AM >   > It would not work if you want a little piece here and there,  
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding reguest... NOT From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@truelink.net> Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 09:06:54 -0700   At 12:38 AM 5/8/1999 -0700, Sand Lawn wrote: >In a meeting this afternoon... the bride asked if I could play the "Monty >Python Theme" (the Liberty Bell March by Sousa) as she comes down the= aisle. >I think NOT!<snip>   Sourpuss! One of JAV's recent releases of th =C6olian-Skinner at St.= Peter's Episcopal in Morristown, NJ, by Richard Morgan (JAV 102) has this Sousa march as its closer! Not too bad!   DeserTBoB > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding programme... From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@truelink.net> Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 09:06:55 -0700   At 02:03 AM 5/8/1999 EDT, Carlo Pietroniro wrote: >greetings, > > I'm playing a wedding tomorrow at my church, and the couple >requested to have the choir sing. I jumped at the chance to show off the >choir I direct. I'm organist/choir director at a Catholic parish and we're >considered to be one of the best choirs in Montreal (90 members, SATB (and >most of them read music)).<snip!>   Hmmmm....I wonder what Arthur's going to say about THIS!   heheheh   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding reguest... NOT From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 08:44:42 -0700   O tempore! O mores!   Not on MY watch.   Cheers,   Bud   Bob Scarborough wrote:   > At 12:38 AM 5/8/1999 -0700, Sand Lawn wrote: > >In a meeting this afternoon... the bride asked if I could play the "Mo= nty > >Python Theme" (the Liberty Bell March by Sousa) as she comes down the = aisle. > >I think NOT!<snip> > > Sourpuss! One of JAV's recent releases of th =C6olian-Skinner at St. P= eter's > Episcopal in Morristown, NJ, by Richard Morgan (JAV 102) has this Sousa > march as its closer! Not too bad! > > DeserTBoB > > > > > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: Louis Vierne.... From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 17:45:40 +0100   > Not a pleasant thing to keep in the back of the head when getting up to >play on Sunday mornings...BTW, according to Durufle who was standing there >at the time, it was only a single pedal note that he hit, but it was >definitely loud! >   How awful for Durufle.   Richard. =========================================================   This message was sent to you by Richard Pinel. rpinel@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk   "But I like pineapple" said Tom, dolefully    
(back) Subject: Re: Louis Vierne.... From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 17:47:22 +0100   >From published notes I have, Louis Vierne died on June 2, 1937 at the >conclusion of his 1,750th organ recital as he collapsed into the keyboards >of the 5-manual Cavaille-Coll organ. To my knowledge, the Notre Dame organ >has always been 5 manuals. I have also heard that there were a lot of stops >pulled! Does anyone have different information? > >Jason     It has always been 5 (the C-C organ anyway) and I have the pictures to prove it!!! I think that one of the previous organs may have been a 4 manual, but the current one was put in in the 2nd half of the 1800's   Richard. =========================================================   This message was sent to you by Richard Pinel. rpinel@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk   What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?      
(back) Subject: Re: Louis Vierne....response on "last moments" From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 17:49:10 +0100   >Mr. Smith--- >Thanks for the final (it would seem) elucidation on the death of a famous >organist/composer. It makes me wonder, tho, why his close associates and >especially those near the console took notes of just what happened. But then >he was a "famous" figure. If I could "go" that way,,I think I would be >pleased, in my last moments. <G> >Kind Regards, >---Roc >     If I was at the console when he died, I wouldn't be checking what notes he was pressing, I would probably be in an absolute state of shock.   Richard. =========================================================   This message was sent to you by Richard Pinel. rpinel@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk   "That's a chain reaction," he said atomically    
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding programme... From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 18:10:59 +0100   >Bridal Entrance: Fanfare by Lemmens >Psalm: Ave Maria by Gounod (SATB choir with soprano obbligato) >Gospel Acclamation: Celtic Alleluia >Offertory: Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring by Bach (SATB choir) >Communion: Panis Angelicus by Franck (SATB with sop. obblig.) >Signing of register: Morning Has Broken, Bish arr. (SATB choir) >Recessional: Finale from Symphony No. 6 by Vierne > >It should be quite nice. So nice, I wish it was my wedding!!! > >Carlo >     Seems like a great programme - I have heard "myths" that the Vierne 6 Final is very hard to play (and I don't just mean "oh yeah, it's Vierne so it's hard" but very very (I could go on) hard). I have hear the first 8 or so bars as an acquaintance is learning it, but that's all.   Richard. =========================================================   This message was sent to you by Richard Pinel. rpinel@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk   "Our marriage must be dissolved", she said acidly      
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding reguest... NOT From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 12:49:07 -0500   Bud/burgie wrote: >=20 > O tempore! O mores! >=20 > Not on MY watch. >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Bud >=20 > Bob Scarborough wrote: >=20 > > At 12:38 AM 5/8/1999 -0700, Sand Lawn wrote: > > >In a meeting this afternoon... the bride asked if I could play the "= Monty > > >Python Theme" (the Liberty Bell March by Sousa) as she comes down th= e aisle. > > >I think NOT!<snip> > > > > Sourpuss! One of JAV's recent releases of th =C6olian-Skinner at St.= Peter's > > Episcopal in Morristown, NJ, by Richard Morgan (JAV 102) has this Sou= sa > > march as its closer! Not too bad!   I can't help thinking that Sand is somehow not entering into the spirit of this. I feel that there is much more that could be done to enhance the wedding besides using the Sousa march. What about the bridal procession doing silly walks down the aisle? What about arranging for a two-ton weight to drop down from the nave roof onto the bride's mother?=20 This wedding could really be something completely different <g>   John Speller  
(back) Subject: being Liturgically correct... From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 13:55:31 EDT   greetings,   being the son of the director of the Liturgy Office for the Diocese of Montreal, I know very well how to select music that follows the guidelines. First off, the Psalm is being done. My cantor will chant the verses and the choir and congregation will join in on the refrain. Once the psalm is done, then we're going to sing the Ave Maria. As for the other acclamations, we're singing all the parts of the mass. We use several different setting, but today we're using the "Assembly Mass" by Thomas Porter, published by GIA. We have both a liturgy and a music committee at my church, and we always follow the book. Curently, we use CBW II, CBW III and Glory & Praise (if any of you are familiar with these). We also have a repertory of classical and contemporary compositions. The wedding's at 3 pm, so I must skiddadle. Bye for now.   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Cut and paste From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 15:51:33 -0400 (EDT)     >And if you want just a little piece here and > there, pick up enough to include what you > want, and then delete what is extraneous. It > works. Truly it does... but I find that there are a couple of pesky problems: a) the car fills up quickly and b) often they just don't want to get out without a tip! nyerk nyerk   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net The best way to get a puppy is to beg for a baby brother -- and they'll settle for the puppy every time. -- Winston Pendelton      
(back) Subject: another coupled hitched From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 16:45:27 EDT   greetings,   I'm back from the wedding and it went very smoothly. There was the usual crying, picture-taking, video-taping and like all spring/summer weddings, the church was hot and humid. At one point, my leader-of-song asked me if the bride started crying before or after she was told how much all the music was going to cost!!! I charged my usual fee, but the choir is always offered for weddings and funerals at no extra charge. All in all, it was a job well done, if I may say so.   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Fw: Cut and paste From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 15:55:04 -0500   LOL...... Bruce is back..........   -----Original Message----- From: bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 2:52 PM Subject: Re: Cut and paste       >And if you want just a little piece here and > there, pick up enough to include what you > want, and then delete what is extraneous. It > works. Truly it does... but I find that there are a couple of pesky problems: a) the car fills up quickly and b) often they just don't want to get out without a tip! nyerk nyerk   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net The best way to get a puppy is to beg for a baby brother -- and they'll settle for the puppy every time. -- Winston Pendelton       "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: church music... From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 17:03:31 EDT   greetings,   some of you have asked me about the CBW III. It stands for Catholic Book of Worship. It's the official english catholic hymnal for Canada and is published by the CCCB (canadian conference of catholic bishops) in Ottawa. Right now we're on volume 3. Volume 1 was put out in 1972, the volume 2 in 1982. I have the Gather comprehensive here in my home. I bought a copy just to have. I was going to buy the organ accompaniment, but when I say it was 4 spiral-bound books, I though I would need a truck to carry it home, so I bought a choir edition instead. We also use the Glory & Praise books. We enjoy them. We have the original 3 volumes, but we also have the comprehensive edition, and the Young People's editions. We also do a lot of stuff by Bach, Handel, Mozart and many other composers. Not everyone uses the same hymn books, but to each his own. Whatever works in your church...=)   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Cut and paste From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 21:40:44 -0400 (EDT)   Thanks, Alan, that part I have finally figured out. Hallelujah, Amen!! --Neil    
(back) Subject: cut & paste... From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 22:00:12 EDT   greeting,   the easiest way to cut and paste anything from anywhere and put it anywhere else is to use the keyboard memory. That's what I use and it's the easiest way I know.   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: another coupled hitched From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 22:01:21 -0400 (EDT)   Carlo, the choir doesn't get Paid?!? What do they get? Hot and sticky robes? Or is the choir paid out of the church treasury?    
(back) Subject: my choir and the death of Louis Vierne... From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 22:19:01 EDT   greetings,   to answer a question about my choir.....we've never had to pay them. Music is a ministry, therefore they're all wiling to come sing at weddings and funerals (the ones who are able to), without asking to be paid. They love singing as a choir and have never asked to be paid. Some things don't have a price tag attached.   Now, concerning the death of Louis Vierne...I've read several different stories about this. Some have him dying after a concert, some have him dying after a mass, and if we give it a little longer, I'm sure someone will come up with him dying at McDonald's!!! Here's what my organ history book says. The book is called "Guide de la musique d'orgue" and it's published by Gilles Cantagrel. It's in french, so I apologize in advance for the list members who can't read french.   ".......À l'occasion de son 1750e concert, Vierne, après avoir joué son "Triptyque", meurt à son orgue de Notre-Dame d'une embolie cardiaque (on le transportera vainement à l"Hôtel-Dieu voisin), alors qu'il commençait à improviser sur l'Alma Redemptoris Mater."   I would translate, but I want all of you to see exactly how it's written, in the event that certain list members think I'm making it up.   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: my choir and the death of Louis Vierne... From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 19:39:32 -0700   > >".......=C0 l'occasion de son 1750e concert, Vierne, apr=E8s avoir jou=E9 son >"Triptyque", meurt =E0 son orgue de Notre-Dame d'une embolie cardiaque (on l= e >transportera vainement =E0 l"H=F4tel-Dieu voisin), alors qu'il commen=E7ait =E0 >improviser sur l'Alma Redemptoris Mater." > Carlo, isn't that about what my post of yesterday said, that it was his 1750th concernt?   Jason   ----------------------------------------------------- Pray for peace, brotherly love and good will towards all!   JOHANNUS of Northern California http://www.johannus-norcal.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding reguest... NOT From: "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com> Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 22:51:19 -0400   How about that certain _______ sound when the giant foot drops down. Now THAT would indeed be interesting!   Bonnie Beth Derby Producer & Host ``Orgelwerke'' & ``Choral Traditions'' WCNY-FM, 91.3; Syracuse; WUNY-FM, 89.5, Utica; WJNY-FM, 90.9, Watertown Organist, First Church of Christ, Scientist, Syracuse orge@dreamscape.com   Subject: Re: Wedding reguest... NOT Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 1:49 PM   Sand Lawn wrote: >In a meeting this afternoon... the bride asked if I could play the "Monty >Python Theme" (the Liberty Bell March by Sousa) as she comes down the aisle. >I think NOT!<snip>   Then John Speller wrote: I feel that there is much more that could be done to enhance the wedding besides using the Sousa march. What about the bridal procession doing silly walks down the aisle? What about arranging for a two-ton weight to drop down from the nave roof onto the bride's mother? This wedding could really be something completely different <g>      
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding reguest... NOT From: "Sand Lawn" <sandlawn@prodigy.net> Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 22:18:28 -0700   I did add the first four bars of the "Monty Python Theme" during the recessional... disguised with some baroque ornamentaions. The minister had a real belly laugh about doing the "silly walk" stuff. Thank you, Mr. Speller!   -----Original Message----- From: Bonnie Beth Derby <orge@dreamscape.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 7:50 PM Subject: Re: Wedding reguest... NOT     >How about that certain _______ sound when the giant foot drops down. Now >THAT would indeed be interesting! > >Bonnie Beth Derby >Producer & Host ``Orgelwerke'' & ``Choral Traditions'' >WCNY-FM, 91.3; Syracuse; WUNY-FM, 89.5, Utica; WJNY-FM, 90.9, Watertown >Organist, First Church of Christ, Scientist, Syracuse >orge@dreamscape.com > >Subject: Re: Wedding reguest... NOT >Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 1:49 PM > >Sand Lawn wrote: >>In a meeting this afternoon... the bride asked if I could play the "Monty >>Python Theme" (the Liberty Bell March by Sousa) as she comes down the >aisle. >>I think NOT!<snip> > >Then John Speller wrote: >I feel that there is much more that could be done to enhance >the wedding besides using the Sousa march. What about the bridal >procession doing silly walks down the aisle? What about arranging for a >two-ton weight to drop down from the nave roof onto the bride's mother? >This wedding could really be something completely different <g> > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >