PipeChat Digest #844 - Monday, May 10, 1999
 
Re: St. Jacobi Kirche
  by "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net>
Fw: ToccataFest
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Stipend Survey
  by "Larry Hoey" <96606351@mail.clarityconnect.com>
Re: Stipend Survey
  by "CJSD" <noto@river.netrover.com>
Re: afflictions
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: Stipend Survey
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com>
RE: Stipend Survey
  by "Charles Brown" <clmoney@cybernex.net>
[musiclassical] 10 MAY ALMANAC (fwd)
  by "R A Campbell" <rcampbel@U.Arizona.EDU>
Re: Louis Vierne....
  by "rollin smith" <rollinsmithv@worldnet.att.net>
Re: my choir and the death of Louis Vierne...
  by "domenico severin" <dseverin@club-internet.fr>
The whereabouts of Barry Rose
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@post.queensu.ca>
Re: St. Jacobi Kirche
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: St. Jacobi Kirche
  by "jon" <jonberts@swbell.net>
opus numbers....
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: St. Jacobi Kirche
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: Stipend Survey
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Stipend Survey
  by <ComposerTX@aol.com>
Re: Books on Organbuilding
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpncorn@davesworld.net>
Re: Books on Organbuilding
  by "Russell Greene" <russg@cyberspc.mb.ca>
Re: St. Jacobi Kirche
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@truelink.net>
Re: Stipend Survey
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@truelink.net>
Re: memorizing the service
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Fw: trompette en chamade...
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: request for copies!!
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Supply & Demand?
  by "Rod Murrow" <murrows@pldi.net>
Re: Stipend Survey
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Stipend Survey
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: Louis Vierne....
  by "Bob Scarborough" <desertbob@truelink.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: St. Jacobi Kirche From: Paul Opel <popel@sover.net> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 06:28:38 -0400   Was that on the tremolo knob?   Paul   >In one of Diane Bish's episodes, she shows these stops. Wasn't that >Ronald Reagan's face I saw on one of them? --Neil > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org     http://www.sover.net/~popel      
(back) Subject: Fw: ToccataFest From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 07:04:49 -0500   Neil... It's a good thing you're doing for the postludes. As the congregation sits and enjoys your renderings, pass the hat again -- what the heck. Hope you don't run out of fodder for "Toccata Time".   Rick V.     -----Original Message----- From: N Brown <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Sunday, May 09, 1999 10:59 PM Subject: ToccataFest     Dear Friends: Today was the 2nd installment of my ToccataFest for May. I played the Toccata from Suite Gothique (L. Boellmann). It went VERY well. Even my teen choir members said, "GOOD JOB." When I'm really confident with a piece, I usually find myself sitting up very tall while playing. I was quite tall today as I finally felt the Boellmann was under my fingers. The folks seem to really enjoy this toccata postlude business. They are dutifully sitting during the postlude and listening to what's happening. And, they haven't jumped up ahead of the choir either. Who knows where this might lead. Now, on to Planyavsky next week. Here's hoping you all have a great week in the Lord. --Neil Brown, AAGO, MMus       "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Stipend Survey From: "Larry Hoey" <96606351@mail.clarityconnect.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 08:16:51 -0400   Hello Folks:   I'm curious to know what the going rate is for playing weddings and funerals - specifically those organists of the Catholic faith. Additionally I'd like to know how much your cantors and vocalists are being paid for singing at funerals and weddings. Are you're prices established and enforced by a Diocesan policy or do you set the rates yourself? Our Diocesan policy stipulates a sliding scale stipend from $25 to a maximum of $50 for an organist with a B.A or M.A to play a funeral Mass. Even if you have a Ph.D. in music, you still get $50 tops! Our cantors get $25. I solicit your comments.   Larry            
(back) Subject: Re: Stipend Survey From: CJSD <noto@river.netrover.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 08:26:59 -0400 (EDT)   Here in Toronto I get $150.00 (Canadian) for either a funeral or a wedding in an Anglican service. $50.00 is awfully low! Soloists usually get about $100.00.   Roman Catholics are well known for underpaying their musicians.       ************************************************************ Simon Dyk Toronto Canada   GOBER ORGANS INC. http://www.interlog.com/~goberorg CHURCH OF THE TRANSFIGURATION http://www.interlog.com/~transfig/trans.htm PERSONAL HOME PAGE: http://www.netrover.com/~noto/gober/~noto.html      
(back) Subject: Re: afflictions From: Myosotis51@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 08:35:29 EDT   In a message dated 5/9/99 2:00:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, RMaryman@AOL.com writes:   << << I had a violinist- friend ask me if organists or pianists ever suffered from the Carpel- Tunnel Syndrome. I told him I've not heard of anyone that did. Suffer from arthritus, yes, but not from the +ACI-computer affliction+ACI-. >> Carpal Tunnel has afflicted two organist friends of mine. One lady had to wear wrist braces for quite a while (a non-surgical remedy) and the other used physocal therapy and also becaom our local advocate for the Alexander Technique. (This is, simply put, using the physocal functions of the hands in ways that they want to 'naturally' work, minimizing the strsses that can cause damage to the nerve sheath in the wrist) >>   I have an on going problem with Carpal Tunnel. One of the ways I control it is I take a pillow with me when I practice organ (I don't have one at home). Sometimes I sit on it, sometimes not - it gives me enough variety of position that my wrists are ok.   Vicki Ceruti  
(back) Subject: Re: Stipend Survey From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@stlnet.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 07:44:46 -0500   Larry Hoey wrote: > > Hello Folks: > > I'm curious to know what the going rate is for playing weddings and > funerals - specifically those organists of the Catholic faith. Additionally > I'd like to know how much your cantors and vocalists are being paid for > singing at funerals and weddings. Are you're prices established and > enforced by a Diocesan policy or do you set the rates yourself? Our > Diocesan policy stipulates a sliding scale stipend from $25 to a maximum of > $50 for an organist with a B.A or M.A to play a funeral Mass. Even if you > have a Ph.D. in music, you still get $50 tops! Our cantors get $25.   Here an organist (ours has an M.A.) will generally get $100 for a funeral. That seems to be pretty much the going rate here in St. Louis.   John Speller, St. Mark's Church (Episcopal), St. Louis, MO.  
(back) Subject: RE: Stipend Survey From: "Charles Brown" <clmoney@cybernex.net> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 08:58:49 -0400   Here, in the NY/NJ community...I get $100 - 150 for a funeral and$150+ for a wedding depending on the number of meetings and rehearsals I am subjected too.   $50.00 seems unreasonably low for a professional person. Recently I had to have some plumbing work done and the plumber was here for about 45-minutes and charged $80.00. I am not denegrating the plumbing profession, but we have years of study and hard practice to achieve our professional status.   In addition, the more someone has to pay, the less likely they will abuse it and the more respect they will have for it.   Charles E. Brown http://www.classicalcorner.com   > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of > John L. Speller > Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 8:45 AM > To: PipeChat > Subject: Re: Stipend Survey > > > Larry Hoey wrote: > > > > Hello Folks: > > > > I'm curious to know what the going rate is for playing weddings and > > funerals - specifically those organists of the Catholic faith. > Additionally > > I'd like to know how much your cantors and vocalists are being paid for > > singing at funerals and weddings. Are you're prices established and > > enforced by a Diocesan policy or do you set the rates yourself? Our > > Diocesan policy stipulates a sliding scale stipend from $25 to > a maximum of > > $50 for an organist with a B.A or M.A to play a funeral Mass. > Even if you > > have a Ph.D. in music, you still get $50 tops! Our cantors get $25. > > Here an organist (ours has an M.A.) will generally get $100 for a > funeral. That seems to be pretty much the going rate here in St. Louis. > > John Speller, > St. Mark's Church (Episcopal), > St. Louis, MO. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: [musiclassical] 10 MAY ALMANAC (fwd) From: R A Campbell <rcampbel@U.Arizona.EDU> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 06:43:55 -0700 (MST)       ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^     10th...MAY 1697 Birth of French composer Jean Marie LECLAIR in Lyon.d- 22 OCT 1764 1776 Birth of English conductor, organist and composer Sir George T. SMART 1780 Birth of Italian soprano Angelica CATALANI. 1839 Birth of German operatic singer Amalie WEISS who married Joseph JOACHIM 1855 Birth of Russian composer Anatole LIADOV in St. Petersburg. d- 28 AUG 1914 1888 Birth of Austrian-American composer Max STEINER in Vienna. d- Los Angeles, 28 DEC 1971 1894 Birth of Ukrainian-American composer and conductor Dimiti TIOMKIN in Poltava. d-London, 11 NOV 1979 1898 Birth of American composer Herbert ELWELL in Minneapolis. d- Cleveland, 17 APR 1974 1914 Birth of English tenor Richard LEWIS in Manchesterd-1990 1916 Birth of American composer Milton BABBITT in Philadelphia. (Princeton University Prof.) 1938 Birth of Russian conductor Maxim SHOSTAKOVICH in Leningrad.(Son of Dimitri) === We promote Classical and New Age Music. Would you Please put us on your e-mail list. Promo CDs to: AcoustiCDigest/Radio Prod. P.O.Box 16221 Tucson AZ 85732 Acoustic & Classical Music Directories http://AcoustiCD.com CD sales at http://mycdstore.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com     ------------------------------------------------------------------------ How many communities do you think join ONElist each day? http://www.onelist.com More than 1,000! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ compact disc discounts comparison shopping at:http://mycdstore.com and visit the Internet Classical Music Directory index at http://acousticd.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Louis Vierne.... From: "rollin smith" <rollinsmithv@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:25:50 -0400   "I've read that Vierne died while sustaining low C on the pedal at the beginning of an improvisation."   Sorry, but your source was incorrect.   Rollin Smith      
(back) Subject: Re: my choir and the death of Louis Vierne... From: domenico severin <dseverin@club-internet.fr> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:18:34 +0200   The book is called "Guide de la musique d'orgue" and it's=20 published by Gilles Cantagrel. It's in french, so I apologize in advance for=20 the list members who can't read french.   ".......=C0 l'occasion de son 1750e concert, Vierne, apr=E8s avoir jou=E9= son =20 "Triptyque", meurt =E0 son orgue de Notre-Dame d'une embolie cardiaque (o= n le=20 transportera vainement =E0 l"H=F4tel-Dieu voisin), alors qu'il commen=E7a= it =E0=20 improviser sur l'Alma Redemptoris Mater."   I would translate, but I want all of you to see exactly how it's written, in=20 the event that certain list members think I'm making it up.   Yes I think this is the true version about the evenement. DOmenico  
(back) Subject: The whereabouts of Barry Rose From: Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:32:35 -0400   A question for our English friends.   Does anyone know where Barry Rose is now? He was at Guildford Cathedral when I first knew of him, then later he was at St. Paul's Cathedral, London, but he moved from there.   I would like to know where he is now.   Bob Conway  
(back) Subject: Re: St. Jacobi Kirche From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:00:36 -0400 (EDT)     >In one of Diane Bish's episodes, she shows > these stops. Wasn't that Ronald Reagan's > face I saw on one of them? Might have been the opposite view, although it is hard to tell!! ;-)   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net The best way to get a puppy is to beg for a baby brother -- and they'll settle for the puppy every time. -- Winston Pendelton      
(back) Subject: Re: St. Jacobi Kirche From: jon <jonberts@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:11:14 -0500   Pretty hard to tell the two apart?........LOL   Jon   bruce cornely wrote:   > >In one of Diane Bish's episodes, she shows > > these stops. Wasn't that Ronald Reagan's > > face I saw on one of them? > Might have been the opposite view, although it is hard to tell!! ;-) > > bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net > The best way to get a puppy is to beg for a baby brother -- and they'll > settle for the puppy every time. -- Winston Pendelton > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: opus numbers.... From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:25:12 EDT   greetings,   does anyone know the opus numbers for Henri Mulet's organ pieces? None of his compositions have them written. Did he just not bother counting his opi?   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: St. Jacobi Kirche From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:24:04 EDT   ...actually, Reagan was asked about it a few years ago, but I believe his reply was, " I can't recall posing for it...."   *haha*   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Stipend Survey From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:27:21 -0400 (EDT)   >I'm curious to know what the going rate is for > playing weddings and funerals - specifically > those organists of the Catholic faith. >Additionally I'd like to know how much your > cantors and vocalists are being paid for > singing at funerals and weddings. My fee for weddings is $150 and $100 for a funeral (even though the work is the same!); recently another priest checked with our pastor to find the "going rate" and when it was revealed that the other three parishes in town had fees of $100 for weddings, my fee was reduced. To my knowledge there is no diocesan scale recommended or enforced. Soloists charge $50 - 75 to sing two songs. Unless specifically requested for the soloist, I do the cantor (psalm/gospel acc) work myself (everything I do is included in my fee - I do not "nickel and dime"), since the soloist is generally a visitor to the parish.   >Our Diocesan policy stipulates a sliding scale > stipend from $25 to a maximum of $50 for an > organist with a B.A or M.A to play a funeral > Mass. I solicit your comments. Move to a protestant church!!   >Our cantors get $25. "Cantors are overpaid and overfed pitchpipes!" a monastic was quoted as saying. No argument here. The worst part of church music is dealing with soloist egos. Last week at a wedding the soloist arrived with NO MUSIC to sing "Panis Angelicus" and "Ave Maria" (what else?). I sent her to the local music store down the street to purchase music for me to play; she only found "Ave" and, thus, sang "PA" a capella, which was rather nice. She was doubly miffed, in that she was not allowed to place the music stand and her mic on the chancel level, and that I was cantor. She thought she'd just roll in, take over, and do her performance. This is the attitude of her parish as well; when their priest does weddings in other parishes he just steamrollers everyone and "turns us into them". Excruciatingly annoying, especially since it is my policy to be as helpful as possible regardless.   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net The best way to get a puppy is to beg for a baby brother -- and they'll settle for the puppy every time. -- Winston Pendelton      
(back) Subject: Re: Stipend Survey From: ComposerTX@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:18:42 EDT   This fee scale was formulated for my tenure at a Catholic parish in Dallas area.   Wedding with 1 personal consultation, no rehearsal, no soloist 125.00 Additional fee, if using Parish Soloist, with 1 rehearsal 25.00 Additional fee, for Parish Soloist, with 1 rehearsal 75.00 Additional fee, if using non-Parish Soloist, with 1 rehearsal 125.00 Additional wedding soloist/group rehearsal, each 25.00 Wedding/Funeral/Memorial Service rehearsal, each 50.00 Funeral/Memorial Service with 1 telephone consultation, each 100.00  
(back) Subject: Re: Books on Organbuilding From: Richard Schneider <arpncorn@davesworld.net> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:52:54 -0700   Dear Listers:   Back in October, we had a discussion going on about various books on organbuilding. I had indicated that the American Institute of Organbuilders, of which I am a member, had a Bibliography of recommended reading, and that I would publish that list at a later date.   Well, as things generally go, I never got it done.   I have my list in front of me and got to thinking: if there's no further interest in that information at this late date, there's prolly no sense in my taking the time to post it. However, if there IS interest, I'd be happy to do so.   Please either post a response to the list or EMAIL me privately to indicate your interest in this information. If the responses are minimal, I'll respond privately and save the bandwidth. If the information seems to be of wide-spread interest, then I'll publish it to the list.   Faithfully,   Richard Schneider, President SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Organbuilders 41-43 Johnston Street Post Office Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX mailto:arpncorn@davesworld.net EMAIL (Note change in ISP's Domain-Name!)    
(back) Subject: Re: Books on Organbuilding From: "Russell Greene" <russg@cyberspc.mb.ca> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:25:57 -0500   I would be very interested in this data.   Thanks, Russ Greene   ----------   > Please either post a response to the list or EMAIL me privately to > indicate your interest in this information.  
(back) Subject: Re: St. Jacobi Kirche From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@truelink.net> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:14:40 -0700   At 06:28 AM 5/10/1999 -0400, Paul Opel wrote:   >>In one of Diane Bish's episodes, she shows these stops. Wasn't that >>Ronald Reagan's face I saw on one of them? --Neil<snip>   If it was Ray-Gun's face on one of them, then, when drawn, it would cause a massive wind "deficit", and cause any electronic cominbation action devices installed later to lose their memory...especially about anything relating to illegal arms sales. Is there an Ollie North face on this console, also?   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: Stipend Survey From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@truelink.net> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:14:42 -0700   At 08:16 AM 5/10/1999 -0400, Larry Hoey wrote:   >Our Diocesan policy stipulates a sliding scale stipend from $25 to a maximum >of $50 for an organist with a B.A or M.A to play a funeral Mass. Even if you >have a Ph.D. in music, you still get $50 tops! Our cantors get $25. I >solicit your comments.<snip>   Well, I see things haven't changed at all in 30 years. I used to get $25 for weddings at my RC parish in 1966! Music still is, as always was, a joke in the RC church. Fortunately, there are some NON-diocesan parishes around with GOOD music programs, with decently paid organists, and decent pipe organs!   DeserTBoB    
(back) Subject: Re: memorizing the service From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 01:03:22 -0400 (EDT)   Nah, folks, memorized services are my trademark (so to speak). When my nose is in the book, my ears don't do their work, nor does my mind engage as actively as it should --that's me. Plus, I can't stand to turn pages. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: trompette en chamade... From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 01:49:15 -0400 (EDT)   Darryl, the parishioners could have been there in any number of eras. My church is full of snowbirds from April to Nov/Dec who migrate to your area the rest of the time. But I must ask one question then. Everytime I tune in CRPC, the processional hymn does indeed get played with some sort of trumpets blaring. Is that a trademark for the tv show perhaps? But I will say, if that's you playing, your modulations and interludes are very nice. --Neil by the Bay    
(back) Subject: Re: request for copies!! From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 01:53:07 -0400 (EDT)   Rodney, dear Rodney, is that the one with the yellow cover? If so, I think I have it. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Supply & Demand? From: Rod Murrow <murrows@pldi.net> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:24:11 -0500   Recent post and response:   ****** POST: >Our Diocesan policy stipulates a sliding scale stipend from $25 to a maximum >of $50 for an organist with a B.A or M.A to play a funeral Mass. Even if you >have a Ph.D. in music, you still get $50 tops! Our cantors get $25. I   >solicit your comments.<snip>   RESPONSE: Well, I see things haven't changed at all in 30 years. I used to get $25 for weddings at my RC parish in 1966! Music still is, as always was, a joke in the RC church. Fortunately, there are some NON-diocesan parishes around with GOOD music programs, with decently paid organists, and decent pipe organs!   ********   This always amazes me...does the law of supply and demand only apply to oil, gasoline, coffee, orange juice, etc.? If it even LOOKS like a late freeze, the price of fruit or coffee goes through the roof - and usually stays there! The price of a bushel of wheat, though, is less than it was a generation ago. I live in farming/ranching country and wonder why the price of wheat and cattle can remain so low and yet the demand is seemingly there. When we get a late freeze, it's just "so what?" from the general public and nothing changes...I remember what sold at OVER $5 a bushel at one point in the late 1960s. Today it's just a bit over $2.   I also, of course, know of the plight of many churches (especially in rural and suburban America) who have NO field of capable organists to select from - and yet are perfectly willing, even proud, to offer a pittance of a part-time salary - if any at all - for someone to come and serve as organist. Frequently, the job requirements are quite demanding, the adult, youth, and children's choirs all have their rehearsals, and the handbells have added that fourth octave and you'll have adult, youth, and children's handbells in your spare time - and we're happy to let you use the organ for giving lessons - plus you'll get extra money for weddings and funerals (yeah, right - BIG BUCKS!).   Why, why, why are churches so quick to offer such a BIG job requirement for such a teeny-tiny sum of money?? I don't understand. The part I REALLY don't understand is that so many of us continue to do it. (I'm not complaining about my present situation, but if I were actively seeking a church position, though, I'd be distraught!)...   Locally, the funeral homes offer the "musicians" each $25 for a funeral service. The organist usually plays about 20 minutes before the service AND plays until the sanctuary has emptied following the service...AND accompanies the soloist for two numbers...so the organist and the soloist get paid the same. Me, with a PhD and a 30-year university teaching history, and Suzie, the local sophomore in high school who can almost remain on pitch for a whole phrase, get paid the same! The part that's so frustrating is that the funeral directors think they're really doing you a favor by paying you so much!   I'm also surprised at the job requirements that churches can come up with that supposedly amounts to a part-time position. In actuality, it's a time-and-a-half (at the very least) position for a less-than-part-time salary. No wonder churches across the nation are crying for organists...and nice pipe organs are gathering dust in their liturgical museums. It's a sad situation - and one that's not likely to improve unless the remuneration improves. (I have this same argument, along slightly different lines, for the plight of the nations school teachers).   Men won't flinch to pay $20 or more for a haircut (ladies, how much for a perm?)...or $60 an hour for a plumber or mechanic or electrician. But to pay $10 for a 45-minute piano lesson for your kid? A bride will pay hundreds and hundreds of dollars for flowers, punch, cookies, and uncooked rice, but will offer the organist $25?? What would they do if the organist suggested that the $25 was PER BRIDESMAID?? or PER piece of music played during the entire wedding (including pre- and post-service music)??   OFF MY SOAPBOX. Sorry, but that earlier post struck a nerve with me. People give lip-service to their supposed love of good music - but they are too often unwilling to back it up with their checkbook! It's little wonder we're in this predicament!   Rod Murrow    
(back) Subject: Re: Stipend Survey From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:59:32 EDT   Here in Texas I ask for no less than $75 and no more than $150 for a wedding and I usually get $60 for a funeral. My soloists usually get at least $50.   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Stipend Survey From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:08:21 EDT   In a message dated 5/10/99 11:22:43 AM Central Daylight Time, ComposerTX@aol.com writes:   << Wedding/Funeral/Memorial Service rehearsal, each 50.00 >>   Danny,   Can you honestly tell us that you played for Funeral rehearsals? Do you mean to rehearse with the choir/soloist(s) or do you mean a full fledged rehearsal - with corpse and all?   John  
(back) Subject: Re: Louis Vierne.... From: Bob Scarborough <desertbob@truelink.net> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:45:29 -0700   At 09:25 AM 5/10/1999 -0400, rollin smith wrote: >"I've read that Vierne died while sustaining low C on the pedal at the >beginning of an improvisation." > >Sorry, but your source was incorrect.   ....all of which begs the question,   "WHO CARES???"   Some say eb...some say c...he died at the console...that's IT! FINIS!   DeserTBoB