PipeChat Digest #849 - Tuesday, May 11, 1999
 
Re: Mental  gymnastics
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: stop pitch...
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: echo division...
  by "Robert Horton" <gemshorn@ukans.edu>
Re: crazy requests....
  by <JDeCaria@aol.com>
Re: Wedding Recessional
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: crazy requests....
  by <Posthorn8@aol.com>
May 16 concert announcement
  by <CareyOrgan@aol.com>
Re: crazy requests....
  by "Mark Huth" <mhuth@rodgers.rain.com>
Fw: crazy requests....
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Louis Vierne....
  by "ray ahrens" <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com>
Re: Wedding Recessional
  by "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com>
funerals etc.
  by "jon" <jonberts@swbell.net>
[Fwd: crazy wedding requests......]
  by "jon" <jonberts@swbell.net>
Re: crazy requests....
  by "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com>
Re: [Fwd: crazy wedding requests......]
  by "B. Durden" <brendadurden@franticorganist.com>
Fw: another mystery machine
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: crazy requests....
  by <HOLYMUSIC@aol.com>
RE: [Fwd: crazy wedding requests......]
  by "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net>
Re: a quick correction.....
  by "Rod Murrow" <murrows@pldi.net>
Re: crazy requests....
  by "Rod Murrow" <murrows@pldi.net>
"Controllable by the performer"
  by "Robert Horton" <gemshorn@ukans.edu>
Re: playing in all the keys....
  by "Robert Horton" <gemshorn@ukans.edu>
Re: Wedding Recessional
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Mental gymnastics From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:10:24 -0400 (EDT)     >When practicing something which has four > flats, you have done a fair job of it and move > move on to something with three flats or four > sharps. My subconscious wants to play the > music as if it was written in the previous > signature. >Does anyone have a "cure' for this....? I think you need a "modulator"!! You know, like going to the deli and having a pastrami on rye, and then a nice juicy dill pickle. Now you're ready for a nice swig of coffee -- bleeecccch, ptui: pickles 'n coffee. The modulator is the ever-faithful potato chip which,when eaten right after the pickle, will in effect modulate your taste buds to the coffee flavor.   I sometimes have this problem of moving from key to key. I usually clear my "hearing buds" with a nice ditty in the key of C. This is especially effective when your instrument is well-tempered. Or, get up and take a walk around the perimeter of the building, provided it's not in a rough downtown neighborhood or raining! ;-)   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   When a dog wants to hang out the "Do Not Disturb" sign, as all of us do now and then, he is regarded as a traitor to his species. -- Ramona C. Albery    
(back) Subject: Re: stop pitch... From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:12:52 -0400 (EDT)   =A0=A0 > there's a stop called "none 8/9".....What is it? Well, if the pitch is so high that no one can hear it, perhaps that's why they call it "none"... ;-)   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   When a dog wants to hang out the "Do Not Disturb" sign, as all of us do now and then, he is regarded as a traitor to his species. -- Ramona C. Albery    
(back) Subject: Re: echo division... From: Robert Horton <gemshorn@ukans.edu> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 08:41:15 -0500   At 01:51 AM 5/11/99 -0400, you wrote: >.....the "echo organ" on the Hazel Wright organ is also electronic. I guess >that makes this organ a combo pipe/electronic....... Not only that, but there are simple Walker divisions in both side balconies along with the horizontal honkers. These were added to "improve congregational singing" in the side balconies.   Rob  
(back) Subject: Re: crazy requests.... From: JDeCaria@aol.com Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:21:50 EDT   I played a wedding for this couple who were determined to make life difficult for me. They wanted me to play the litanies as a prelude (let's not even get into the latest thread), improvise on Mozart's Fantasia in F minor while the bridesmaids processed in, offertory was to be Schumann's Study #5, for communion, Handel's Dead March from Saul, and finally, for the combination recessional postlude, they wanted Dupre's Prelude and Fugue in G minor!!!! On top of all this, they were livid when I asked them for a $500(cdn) performance fee. I found out later that they had bought an organ CD by Simon Preston and just picked pieces from it that they liked. Has anyone else ever had a wedding so strange?   Joseph DeCaria Toronto  
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding Recessional From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:38:08 -0700   Ives' Variations on America, or Dudley Buck's Variations on the Star-Spangled Banner, but not unless you already have them in your repertoire and/or are a quick study ... they ain't easy.   Cheers,   Bud   Don Ammerman wrote:   > I have a wedding scheduled for the evening of July 3rd. The bride would > like an "Independence Day Medley". Any suggestions? > > Anne Ammerman > King George, VA > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: crazy requests.... From: Posthorn8@aol.com Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:49:26 EDT   Hi Gang,   I have posted this story before so if you have seen it, please forgive me. Years ago I had to play "Feelings" at a funeral as an organ solo. I really tried to keep it "churchy". When I got to the bridge the widow wailed, screamed, hit the floor and became a contortionist of grief. (Geeze, I thought I was a drama queen.) When I got back to the beginning she got back into the pew as if nothing happened. Pastor's jaw was on the floor and the more than one person had to leave the church for fear out breaking out in laughter.   I was going to play the song once, but when I saw what happened, I thought to myself, "Tim, this deserves an instant replay." This time I started to add stops as I came around to the bridge. I added the full theatre organ trems and all the celestes and flutes the organ had...It sounded like the Mighty Wurlitzer. Well, let me tell you, the widow did the same thing, only this time it was worse. She was under the first pew wiggling, throwing her arms around and yelling, "Oh My God, My God, My God," to the top of her lungs.   You'll NEVER guess what I played when they took the casket out....(Big grin)...the bearers were trying to carry her dear husband while she was holding on to the back of the casket, feet dragging, and letting out the most God awful sounds. After the funeral I thougt Pastor was going to fire me, but he gave me an extra $50. He said it was worth the show!!   Tim  
(back) Subject: May 16 concert announcement From: CareyOrgan@aol.com Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:52:27 EDT   MUSIC AT ST. PAUL’S St. Paul’s Episcopal Church, Third & State Sts., Troy, NY   Sunday, May 16 at 7:30 pm   ST. PAUL’S CHORISTERS, SOLOISTS & CONSORT, directed by Keith Williams   Agnes Armstrong, piano & organ Anne-Marie Barker Schwarz, violin Nat Parke, cello Keith Williams, harmonium     Tantum ergo baritone solo, chorus, organ Widor Allegro cantabile piano & harmonium Widor Harmonium solos Saint-Saens, Chaminade, & Franck Recit & Aria from "Ariane" women's chorus, piano & harmonium Felix-Alexandre Guilmant   Final in E-flat harmonium & piano Guilmant Cantique de Jean Racine tenor & bass, cello & piano Gabriel Fauré   Romance, Opus 27 violin, harmonium & piano Saint-Saens Priere cello & harmonium Saint-Saens Ave maria violin, harmonium, & piano Bach/Gounod   Sanctus & Gloria from "St. Cecilia Mass" ensemble Charles Gounod   Admission $15 & $10 – Call 273-7351 for more information   Music at St. Paul's Concerts are made possible, in part, by funding from the New York State Council on the Arts, through the Art$ Grants Program administered by the Rensselaer County Council on the Arts.  
(back) Subject: Re: crazy requests.... From: "Mark Huth" <mhuth@rodgers.rain.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:51:40 PST       I once played a wedding for two attorneys, of which both had studied organ in college (not enough to become proficient, but enough to gain an appreciation).   The first three pieces they had asked for were the Bach Passacaglia in c, the Vierne I Final and the Franck Choral I in E Major. All for the prelude.   Luckily, we were able to reach a compromise.   Mark     > I played a wedding for this couple who were determined to make life > difficult for me. They wanted me to play the litanies as a prelude (let's > not even get into the latest thread), improvise on Mozart's Fantasia in F > minor while the bridesmaids processed in, offertory was to be Schumann's > Study #5, for communion, Handel's Dead March from Saul, and finally, for > the combination recessional postlude, they wanted Dupre's Prelude and > Fugue in G minor!!!! On top of all this, they were livid when I asked > them for a $500(cdn) performance fee. I found out later that they had > bought an organ CD by Simon Preston and just picked pieces from it that > they liked. Has anyone else ever had a wedding so strange? > > Joseph DeCaria > Toronto > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > mailto:requests@pipechat.org >       Mark Huth Rodgers Instruments, LLC mhuth@rodgers.rain.com http://www.rodgersinstruments.com   ==========================   You are only young once, but you can stay immature indefinitely.    
(back) Subject: Fw: crazy requests.... From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 17:08:10 -0500   HOLY COW... What a story !!!     -----Original Message----- From: Posthorn8@aol.com <Posthorn8@aol.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 3:52 PM Subject: Re: crazy requests....     >Hi Gang, > >I have posted this story before so if you have seen it, please forgive me. >Years ago I had to play "Feelings" at a funeral as an organ solo. I really >tried to keep it "churchy". When I got to the bridge the widow wailed, >screamed, hit the floor and became a contortionist of grief. (Geeze, I >thought I was a drama queen.) When I got back to the beginning she got back >into the pew as if nothing happened. Pastor's jaw was on the floor and the >more than one person had to leave the church for fear out breaking out in >laughter. > >I was going to play the song once, but when I saw what happened, I thought to >myself, "Tim, this deserves an instant replay." This time I started to add >stops as I came around to the bridge. I added the full theatre organ trems >and all the celestes and flutes the organ had...It sounded like the Mighty >Wurlitzer. Well, let me tell you, the widow did the same thing, only this >time it was worse. She was under the first pew wiggling, throwing her arms >around and yelling, "Oh My God, My God, My God," to the top of her lungs. > >You'll NEVER guess what I played when they took the casket out....(Big >grin)...the bearers were trying to carry her dear husband while she was >holding on to the back of the casket, feet dragging, and letting out the most >God awful sounds. After the funeral I thougt Pastor was going to fire me, >but he gave me an extra $50. He said it was worth the show!! > >Tim > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Louis Vierne.... From: "ray ahrens" <ray_ahrens@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:09:27 PDT         > >Sorry, but your source was incorrect. > >...all of which begs the question, > >"WHO CARES???" > >Some say eb...some say c...he died at the console...that's IT! FINIS! > >DeserTBoB   DeserTBob,   A wee bit testy, eh? Come in out of the sun and drink some water before you get heatstroke.     _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding Recessional From: "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:14:09 -0400   Hi Anne,   I have a collection of around 16 Marches and Airs from Early America, arranged by E. Power Biggs. They are easy and several would be just fine for an Independence Day wedding. It was published by McAfee Music Corporation and titled: ``A collection of easy Marches & Airs from Early America''. Also, don't forget to check out the Barbara Owen editions of American Organ Music - several volumes available. (If the wedding couple get into a spat, you can always play Ryder's ``Thunder Storm''. :-)   Let me know what you decide on for this wedding.   Best regards,   Bonnie Beth Derby Producer & Host ``Orgelwerke'' & ``Choral Traditions'' WCNY-FM, 91.3; Syracuse; WUNY-FM, 89.5, Utica; WJNY-FM, 90.9, Watertown Organist, First Church of Christ, Scientist, Syracuse orge@dreamscape.com   ---------- > From: Don Ammerman <usna53@crosslink.net> > Subject: Wedding Recessional > Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 1:34 PM > > I have a wedding scheduled for the evening of July 3rd. The bride would > like an "Independence Day Medley". Any suggestions? > > Anne Ammerman > King George, VA    
(back) Subject: funerals etc. From: jon <jonberts@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 17:21:03 -0500   Several years ago, I attended a funeral in one of those gawdawful places they call a funeral "home". There were several "Chapels"....the one we were in had an Old Conn (I was told it came over on either the Ninta, Pinta or Santa Maria......not sure which one.......but anyway. The organist was playing away and all of the manual stops were going thru some schluschy leslie type stereo tone cabinet........kinda like a voix celeste and a flatly tuned unda maris together......then all of a sudden the Pedal Diapason came in on a channel with out the "movement effects".......it was sooo bad most of the people there made faces.....and even the mother of the deceased rolled her eyes, and looked at me knowing that I was about to vomit from the noise being made. I'm sure this was not the "buck two ninetyeight" funeral either. What a terrible state music is in here in the States.   Jon Bertschinger        
(back) Subject: [Fwd: crazy wedding requests......] From: jon <jonberts@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 17:22:31 -0500   OOPS!......sent this to the wrong list............so here it is for the right list now.........sheeze......what a week this is.....   jon wrote:   > Lucky the ones asked to play Vierne, Mozart, Bach, etc. The last > wedding I played, I was asked three days before to play some pieces by > "Yanny".......don't know how to spell it, and don't care either. I > sight read thru a book of trash for preludes.....still waiting to be > paid too. > > Jon Bertschinger > player of the gawdallmighty SludgeMasterDeLuXe        
(back) Subject: Re: crazy requests.... From: "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:26:13 -0400   GEE WIZZZZZZZ!   I once had a strange request like this. However, it quickly changed when I turned down two of their suggested selections - the COMPLETE Symphonie Gothique of Widor, and several pieces of Sorabji. I stated that my fee was $200 per hour and I practice VERY SLOW!   Cheers,   Bonnie Beth Derby Producer & Host ``Orgelwerke'' & ``Choral Traditions'' WCNY-FM, 91.3; Syracuse; WUNY-FM, 89.5, Utica; WJNY-FM, 90.9, Watertown Organist, First Church of Christ, Scientist, Syracuse orge@dreamscape.com   > Subject: Re: crazy requests.... > Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 4:21 PM > > I played a wedding for this couple who were determined to make life difficult > for me. They wanted me to play the litanies as a prelude (let's not even get > into the latest thread), improvise on Mozart's Fantasia in F minor while the > bridesmaids processed in, offertory was to be Schumann's Study #5, for > communion, Handel's Dead March from Saul, and finally, for the combination > recessional postlude, they wanted Dupre's Prelude and Fugue in G minor!!!! > On top of all this, they were livid when I asked them for a $500(cdn) > performance fee. I found out later that they had bought an organ CD by Simon > Preston and just picked pieces from it that they liked. Has anyone else ever > had a wedding so strange? > > Joseph DeCaria > Toronto    
(back) Subject: Re: [Fwd: crazy wedding requests......] From: "B. Durden" <brendadurden@franticorganist.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:07:07 -0700     How about the theme from Rocky for the recessional. I was quite embarrassed. Brenda Durden The Frantic Organist    
(back) Subject: Fw: another mystery machine From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:08:53 -0500   Hi List... I posted this a week or so ago, and found no responses. Any feed-back on this?   -----Original Message----- From: VEAGUE +ADw-dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net+AD4- To: e-mail organ chat +ADw-pipechat+AEA-pipechat.org+AD4- Date: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 10:12 PM Subject: another mystery machine     +AD4-A fellow organ/ piano man was in my shop today helping me work on a DuoArt +AD4-upright- ca 1927. Anyhow, he mentioned an +ACI-organ+ACI- he saw years ago that was +AD4-the fore-runner of the Hammond. It was named the Chelso Celeste, made in +AD4-??Boston?? +AD4-It had Hammond-type tone wheels, but about eighteen to twenty inches in +AD4-diameter. The instrument (tone wheels) took up as much space in pipe chambers, and had a +AD4-pneumatic harp, chimes, and swell shades. The instrument was in a room downstairs and spoke thru a tone chute up to the salon. +AD4-He cannot recall what type of amplification and speakers the thing had, but +AD4-it was installed in swell boxes, and used a Skinner console. +AD4- +AD4-Any input?? +AD4- +AD4-Rick V. +AD4- +AD4- +AD4-      
(back) Subject: Re: crazy requests.... From: HOLYMUSIC@aol.com Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:11:57 EDT   You are TWISTED-----Now I'm really looking forward to your visit!!!!!!!!!   Nae Pearson  
(back) Subject: RE: [Fwd: crazy wedding requests......] From: "Dennis Goward" <dgoward@uswest.net> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:17:12 -0700     > How about the theme from Rocky for the recessional.   Sometimes I think that the bride (or whoever) is losing sight of the fact that a wedding is first of all a service of the church. Most churches have prescribed policies, rites, and rubrics that go along with the services of the church. They are coming before the church and asking Christ's blessing on their marriage (through His church). It is not a stage show for the benefit of the audience -- that audience is a congregation same as Sunday morning.   Unfortunately, I think we've had too long a time of feelgood religion in this country, as well as a general disrespect and degradation of the traditions of the churches.   If a bride wants an anything goes wedding, well, I know a church that has no traditions, no liturgy, and they'll even use your own CD's for all the music, because the regular organist has no idea of wedding repertoire. On the other hand, if you want a service of the church where we can come to a mutually satisfactory service and music program, come to St. Pauls.   Our pastor did a wedding Saturday, the couple wanted a very untraditional service -- so they got married in a beautiful red rocks park in Phoenix. That marriage is every bit as valid as one in the church -- and it was exactly what they wanted. So there are ways of doing it.   Dennis Goward    
(back) Subject: Re: a quick correction..... From: Rod Murrow <murrows@pldi.net> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:00:29 -0500     --------------B531DB429132D4F0039756C8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Oh, dear...Bm7 = D6??   I hope this doesn't develop into a thread about musical enharmonics. Sorry, but after teaching music theory for 30 years or so (and playing for nearly 45), they most assuredly aren't the same. Even if they were enharmonic equivalents (which they aren't), I'd still argue that they're not the same.   So, anyone else want to argue about this?   Rod Murrow   Carlo Pietroniro wrote:   > .....actually, the last chord on page 10 of "thou art the rock" isn't a C#7, > but rather a Bm7 or a D6, whichever way you look at it (they're the same > chord)............=) > > Carlo >   --------------B531DB429132D4F0039756C8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> Oh, dear...Bm7 = D6?? <p>I hope this doesn't develop into a thread about musical enharmonics.&nbsp; Sorry, but after teaching music theory for 30 years or so (and playing for nearly 45), they most assuredly aren't the same.&nbsp; Even if they were enharmonic equivalents (which they aren't), I'd still argue that they're not the same. <p>So, anyone else want to argue about this? <p>Rod Murrow <p>Carlo Pietroniro wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE>.....actually, the last chord on page 10 of "thou art the rock" isn't a C#7, <br>but rather a Bm7 or a D6, whichever way you look at it (they're the same <br>chord)............=) <p>Carlo <br><a href="mailto:requests@pipechat.org"></a>&nbsp;</blockquote> </html>   --------------B531DB429132D4F0039756C8--    
(back) Subject: Re: crazy requests.... From: Rod Murrow <murrows@pldi.net> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:04:31 -0500   Carlo; I agree about the "crazy requests" situation. I've gotten to the point that when the initial request comes asking me to play for the wedding, I make it a point to let the bride know that I have certain musical standards I have set for myself and that if they want special songs or pieces to be played then they need to ask someone else to play. I'm really not interested in some of the crap that they ask soloists to sing (and organists to accompany) - much of it is highly inappropriate for a religious ceremony anyway - and at best its musical value is suspect.   I figure if they're asking me to play for them, then they already know my reputation for using good music -   Rod Murrow   Carlo Pietroniro wrote:   > ...I just received a phone call from a bride whose wedding I'm playing this > Saturday. You'll never guess what piece she wants me to play.....she want > the toccata and fugue in d minor by Bach. At a wedding!!!!!!!! Man, I've had > some crazy requests over the years, but never one for this piece. I can only > imagine what the pastor will say to this. What have been some of the more > unusual requests the rest of you have received for weddings and funerals? I > was once asked to play the theme from the Donna Reed show for a > funeral!!!!!! > > Carlo    
(back) Subject: "Controllable by the performer" From: Robert Horton <gemshorn@ukans.edu> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:54:59 -0500   At 09:11 AM 5/11/99 -0700, you wrote: >MWORGLBAU@aol.com wrote: >> We, in the organbuilding community, do try to strive for >> building instruments that are going to last. This must be a new phenomenon, because one would never know it looking at instruments of the past several decades.   >> But I feel that it is more >> important to build instruments that will allow the organ to be as expressive >> musically, offer as much variety as possible, and be controllable by the >> performer as possible. Define what makes an organ "controllable by the performer", if you could. Paradoxically, I feel most in control when the organ has fewer accessories (e.g. super-and sub-couplers) and simple mechanical stops. This is especially true during improvisation. Even on instruments near and dear to my heart, I'm constantly having to stop and think about which coupler I'm hitting amidst a forest of 16s, 8s, and 4s. Furthermore, I'm becoming less and less impressed with the idea of being able to perform and realize a complex piece alone at the console. I like having console assistants--it helps overcome the loneliness associated with giving a solo recital. It's also a fabulous pedagogical tool! If by nothing else, I feel that I earned my pay this semester by having my students be registrants during my recital. Most of them commented how inspiring it was to be part of the performance in that manner.   >BTW, was Barker lever ever used in England, or did they jump straight from >tracker to tubular pneumaic? Off the top of my head, I want to say that they went straight to TP action, but somehow the Barker lever seems to be a natural intermediary step on the way from pure mechanical to pneumatic action.   Robert Horton - DMA Student, University of Kansas 1603 West 15th St. #207A, Lawrence, KS 66044 http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~gemshorn/   "As I let go of my feelings of guilt, I am in touch with my inner sociopath."  
(back) Subject: Re: playing in all the keys.... From: Robert Horton <gemshorn@ukans.edu> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:29:59 -0500   At 12:40 PM 5/11/99 -0400, you wrote: >In my very humble opinion, they should be refered to as "organ >players" and not "organists". Doesn't sound all that "humble" to me...   >I actually know an organist whose repertory >doesn't include anything with more than 4 sharps or flats, which by the way, >precludes about 70% of all organ music ever written. Not quite sure how you arrived at the figure of 70%, but I don't think it's quite that high. The benefits of being able to play in all keys come not in the quantity of repertoire that becomes available, but the quality of repertoire that you have at your disposal as well as the ability to improvise. So the question remains...what are you going to do about this problem? It's certainly a troublesome issue, and it's not going to go away. The real trick is that we live in an era dominated by commericalism. I could write pages of music in Db and F#, but publishers won't touch it with a 10' pole. Never mind that Db is (IMNSHO) the most beautiful key in captivity, people just won't buy anything that looks "too hard". Here's an exercise for all the Romans on the list, try playing the Sanctus of the Mass of Creation in F# Minor or Ab Minor (use the transposer dial if you must)...It's got a gorgeous sound in those keys, doesn't it? However, could you imagine the commercial success that Marty Haugen would have received if he had actually tried to publish it like that? It would have failed overnight! For the time being, though, I'm sort of enjoying everyone else's fear of foreign keys...Since modern ears have been saturated with keys such as D, C, and G; I sound all the more impressive when I start improvising in Db.   >.....actually, the last chord on page 10 of "thou art the rock" isn't a C#7, >but rather a Bm7 or a D6, whichever way you look at it (they're the same >chord)............=) I can tell you've been reading too many OCP guitar chords, Carlo...=) The two may look the same--assuming that D in in the bass--but they have different functions. Traditional harmony would call this chord a IV 6/5, which is a type of pre-dominant. If you want it in guitar lingo, the proper chord symbol would be Bm7/D.   Robert Horton - DMA Student, University of Kansas 1603 West 15th St. #207A, Lawrence, KS 66044 http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~gemshorn/   "If we are what we eat... then I'm cheap, fast, and easy."  
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding Recessional From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 21:24:49 -0400 (EDT)   >I have a wedding scheduled for the evening of > July 3rd. The bride would like an > "Independence Day Medley". I can't imagine why? A wedding is hardly a day to celebrate "independence." hehehehe   >Any suggestions? Variations on God Save the Queen Variations on the National Anthem (O say, can you see??) Variations on The Ride of Paul Revere (The British are Coming)   (um, not really...)   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   When a dog wants to hang out the "Do Not Disturb" sign, as all of us do now and then, he is regarded as a traitor to his species. -- Ramona C. Albery