PipeChat Digest #853 - Thursday, May 13, 1999
 
Re: crazy requests....
  by <KurtvonS@aol.com>
Re: Need Assistance Agasin   in
  by <KurtvonS@aol.com>
Music Theory Lesson
  by "Mark Huth" <mhuth@rodgers.rain.com>
my Leslie........
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: [Fwd: crazy wedding requests......]
  by "Roger Pariseau" <grinder@west.net>
Re: [Fwd: crazy wedding requests......]
  by <DavisMJJ1@aol.com>
weird stop....
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: weird stop....
  by "Robert Horton" <gemshorn@falcon.cc.ukans.edu>
Fw: crazy requests....
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Fw: weird stop....
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Fw: weird stop....
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: [Fwd: crazy wedding requests......]
  by <JKVDP@aol.com>
Re: Stipend Survey
  by "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: weird stop....
  by <Prestant16@aol.com>
Re: Fw: crazy requests....
  by "Robert Horton" <gemshorn@ukans.edu>
Controllable actions/consoles and maybe even...........ORGANISTS
  by "jon" <jonberts@swbell.net>
Re: [Fwd: FBC Organ Recital this Sunday, KCMO]
  by "jon" <jonberts@swbell.net>
Re: Fw: chords.......
  by "jon" <jonberts@swbell.net>
Re: weird stop....
  by "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net>
Re: [Fwd: FBC Organ Recital this Sunday, KCMO]
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: [Fwd: crazy wedding requests......]
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: [Fwd: crazy wedding requests......]
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Aesthetics
  by <MWORGLBAU@aol.com>
Re: used organs
  by <MickBerg@aol.com>
HORRIBLE MISTAKE
  by <DRAWKNOB@aol.com>
Re: chords..
  by "Richard Scott-Copeland" <organist@hantslife.co.uk>
Recital early notice:  Ian Tracey (Liverpool) at Sheffield
  by "Cheryl C Hart" <info@copemanhart.co.uk>
 


(back) Subject: Re: crazy requests.... From: KurtvonS@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:53:48 EDT   In a message dated 5/12/99 10:38:07 AM Central Daylight Time, cremona84000@webtv.net writes:   << at the conclusion the trumpet player played the "Day is Done". It was so hauntingly sad, so lone and distant, I wondered if I was going to make it through the procession out and the postlude. When the trumper finished they fired a 21-gun salute (outside, of course) which echoed dramatically around the nave (2.5 sec reverberation). This is only surpassed in emotion by the "missing-plane" fly over, which absolutely un-does me! >> Yes, I know what you mean! Some of the Military rites are really moving...and being raised high Lutheran I appreciate the pomp.  
(back) Subject: Re: Need Assistance Agasin in From: KurtvonS@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:55:12 EDT   Will's email is Scarboro@digital.com  
(back) Subject: Music Theory Lesson From: "Mark Huth" <mhuth@rodgers.rain.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:01:26 PST     > Oh, dear...Bm7 = D6?? > > I hope this doesn't develop into a thread about musical enharmonics.   Actually, that would be fun.   > Sorry, but after teaching music theory for 30 years or so (and playing > for nearly 45), they most assuredly aren't the same. > > Even if they were enharmonic equivalents (which they aren't), I'd still > argue that they're not the same. So, anyone else want to argue about > this? > > Rod Murrow   I bit my tongue yesterday about this, not wanting to sound like a music theory snob, but am glad that you responded to this, Rod.   This part of my education in theory, btw, was (and is) one of the most fascinating for me, namely, how chords made up of the same pitches:   Bm7 B - D - F# - A   D6 D - F# - A - B   are NOT the same.   I don't have 30 years of teaching experience to draw upon, but I could illustrate it this way . . .   If you were established in the key of E minor, for example, and played the chord above, it would feel like Bm7, no matter what inversion you used.   If you were established in D major, and used the chord above, it would feel like D6.   The relationship of chords within a larger harmonic framework is something of great interest to me. Add modal theory into this mix and music structure takes on a really fun dimension.   Mark       Mark Huth Rodgers Instruments, LLC mhuth@rodgers.rain.com http://www.rodgersinstruments.com   ==========================   Cole's Law: Thinly sliced cabbage.    
(back) Subject: my Leslie........ From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:14:23 EDT   greetings,   I forgot to mention that my technician came over on Saturday and took a look at it. He said it's in very good shape and if I ever want to sell it, to call him. Right now it's sitting in the living room. I'm using it as a plant stand..=). Until I decide what to do with it. I could always buy another organ...........   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: [Fwd: crazy wedding requests......] From: Roger Pariseau <grinder@west.net> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:24:37 -0700   Russell Greene wrote:   > I've used this processional for many years. Didn't know that anyone else > did. Got the complete music right from the complete score which I had > acquired for another side of my musical life. Brides love it!   Where did you get the complete score, Russ? SoM is my significant other's favorite musical. I've worked up arrangements for some of its pieces (by ear and from sheet music) but can't seem to find the complete score anywhere.   -- Roger  
(back) Subject: Re: [Fwd: crazy wedding requests......] From: DavisMJJ1@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:33:07 EDT   In a message dated 12/05/99 14:48:02 GMT Daylight Time, cremona84000@webtv.net writes:   << Actually, the wedding procession from (SoM -- whew! that was close!!) is a rather good procession, the procession being the introduction to the song (HDYSAPLM?). Unfortunately, the publishers, in their infinite wisdumb, feel that the introduction is a waste of ink and that everyone is interested in the werds! I've transcribed this off the recording and keep it tucked away in the back of my head. It only takes a few practice rounds to haul it out of the archives (it's not like there's a whole bunch o' stuff stored in there anyway!!! hehehe). I just end it before I have to stand up on the bench and start singing!! ;-) >> Actually, I had to play this a few years ago at a wedding and they even wanted the choir to sing the HDYSAPLM bit - as the bride's name happended to be Maria. Unsurprisingly, no one could keep a straight face   Michael Davis  
(back) Subject: weird stop.... From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:19:06 EDT   greetings,   there's a 5-manual tracker organ here in Montreal built by the Rudolph Von Beckerath company and on this organ there's a funny stop-name that I've never seen before. It's something like "saqueboute". I think I spelled it wrong. It's either in the pedal or the bombarbe division, I'm not sure. Does anyone know what this sounds like? Also, have any of you heard of the organists Raymond Daveluy and Rachel Laurin? They live here in Montreal and are dear friends of mine. They both have music published and have serveral recordings.   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: weird stop.... From: Robert Horton <gemshorn@falcon.cc.ukans.edu> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:40:05 -0600   > there's a 5-manual tracker organ here in Montreal built by >the Rudolph Von Beckerath company and on this organ there's a funny >stop-name that I've never seen before. It's something like "saqueboute". This is the early French spelling of "sackbutt", the medieval predecessor of the modern trombone.   Rob      
(back) Subject: Fw: crazy requests.... From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:16:23 -0500   "missing-plane fly-over" --- My dad flew B-17s in the war. I get goosies whenever a formation of planes flies above.   -----Original Message----- From: bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 10:36 AM Subject: Re: crazy requests....       >Then there was the posh funeral at a > prestigious Catholic parish; a string quartet, a > rented 9' Steinway...and the recessional, > played alla lugubrioso; "The Notre Dame > Victory March"....now there was one for the > Gipper! I have played the NDVM at a couple of funerals, and when it is played very slowly and stately, it is quite moving. We recently had a funeral for a military man, and the honor guard stood outside the church, visible through the clear class windows, throughout the mass, and then at the conclusion the trumpet player played the "Day is Done". It was so hauntingly sad, so lone and distant, I wondered if I was going to make it through the procession out and the postlude. When the trumper finished they fired a 21-gun salute (outside, of course) which echoed dramatically around the nave (2.5 sec reverberation). This is only surpassed in emotion by the "missing-plane" fly over, which absolutely un-does me!   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   When a dog wants to hang out the "Do Not Disturb" sign, as all of us do now and then, he is regarded as a traitor to his species. -- Ramona C. Albery     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Fw: weird stop.... From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:20:19 -0500   "saqueboute"-- could be- "Sackbut" which is a chorus reed- an early form of Trombone at the 16-foot pitch.   -----Original Message----- From: Carlo Pietroniro <concert_organist@hotmail.com> To: organchat@onelist.com <organchat@onelist.com>; pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 1:20 PM Subject: weird stop....     >greetings, > > there's a 5-manual tracker organ here in Montreal built by >the Rudolph Von Beckerath company and on this organ there's a funny >stop-name that I've never seen before. It's something like "saqueboute". I >think I spelled it wrong. It's either in the pedal or the bombarbe division, >I'm not sure. Does anyone know what this sounds like? Also, have any of you >heard of the organists Raymond Daveluy and Rachel Laurin? They live here in >Montreal and are dear friends of mine. They both have music published and >have serveral recordings. > >Carlo > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: weird stop.... From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:26:12 -0700   Well, I was TOTALLY out to lunch on this one (grin).   Bud (reaching for his Geritol and gin)   VEAGUE wrote:   > "saqueboute"-- could be- "Sackbut" which is a chorus reed- an early form of > Trombone at the 16-foot pitch. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carlo Pietroniro <concert_organist@hotmail.com> > To: organchat@onelist.com <organchat@onelist.com>; pipechat@pipechat.org > <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 1:20 PM > Subject: weird stop.... > > >greetings, > > > > there's a 5-manual tracker organ here in Montreal built by > >the Rudolph Von Beckerath company and on this organ there's a funny > >stop-name that I've never seen before. It's something like "saqueboute". I > >think I spelled it wrong. It's either in the pedal or the bombarbe > division, > >I'm not sure. Does anyone know what this sounds like? Also, have any of you > >heard of the organists Raymond Daveluy and Rachel Laurin? They live here in > >Montreal and are dear friends of mine. They both have music published and > >have serveral recordings. > > > >Carlo > > > > > >______________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: [Fwd: crazy wedding requests......] From: JKVDP@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:23:40 EDT   In a message dated 99-05-12 00:53:32 EDT, Innkawgneeto@webtv.net writes:   > I had to play the wedding music from "Sound of Music' for a processional once--I kid you not!!   You only had the play the Sound of Music processional ONCE? Jerry in Seattle  
(back) Subject: Re: Stipend Survey From: "Alan Freed" <afreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:45:47 -0400   Holy mackerel! We're Lutherans over here. I think a huge factor is going to be "where you are." We are in midtown Manhattan. I do not KNOW, but I think the figures I've heard are vastly higher than those you quote, by at least a factor of three or four. I'm not impressed with the idea of using degrees as a determinant, but I suppose you might want to have SOMEthing to measure by, and that's at least objective. But then, SHOULD it be.   I'll try to get some figures for you.   Alan Freed   ---------- >From: "Larry Hoey" <96606351@mail.clarityconnect.com> >To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Subject: Stipend Survey >Date: Mon, May 10, 1999, 8:16 AM >   > Our > Diocesan policy stipulates a sliding scale stipend from $25 to a maximum of > $50 for an organist with a B.A or M.A to play a funeral Mass. Even if you > have a Ph.D. in music, you still get $50 tops! Our cantors get $25. I > solicit your comments.  
(back) Subject: Re: weird stop.... From: Prestant16@aol.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:50:14 EDT       << there's a 5-manual tracker organ here in Montreal built by the Rudolph Von Beckerath company and on this organ there's a funny stop-name that I've never seen before. It's something like "saqueboute" >>     I actually have a saqueboute. Brand new and for sale, any takers?????? :) It's a 1/8 length reed that tapers out like the bottom of a clarinet pipe does then tapers back in. The one I have was built by the French pipe maker L. Bouladoux.   -William C.  
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: crazy requests.... From: Robert Horton <gemshorn@ukans.edu> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:29:32 -0500   At 09:37 AM 5/12/99 -0400, you wrote: >>I thought the Hallelujah Chorus was reserved >> for the honeymoon night ?? !!! >Nah! Just the one from the "Mount of Olives"... ;-)   Bruce, you're incorrigible!   Rob  
(back) Subject: Controllable actions/consoles and maybe even...........ORGANISTS From: jon <jonberts@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:20:08 -0500   I keep seeing postings of how wonderful slider chests and actions are. We've contemplated that sort of stuff many times.....but after critically listening to how pipes actually speak, I have great doubts and am elated that our windchests don't do what slider chests do to pipe speech.   some experiences.......   a single stop......say a Dolce, Dulciana or other narrow quiet string will "gulp" like mad being the only stop on using the note channel.   a high pitched stop......say a mixture on the same note channel with a reed stop......will pick up the "tongue lashing" of the reed........play all sorts of wrong pitches and act generally un-mixture like.   with sever weather changes.......and it happens a lot here in the mid west USA.......things stick, warp, move, squeek, bind, rattle and everything else emaginable.   As an organist, I am very happy with the type of chests they are built in our shop. We do not have any of the above mentioned things happening with weather changes.   These are my own sincere, humble opinions, based upon my own sincere and humble experiences with many different actions in many different locations and organs.   Jon Bertschinger      
(back) Subject: Re: [Fwd: FBC Organ Recital this Sunday, KCMO] From: jon <jonberts@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:25:23 -0500   YES IT IS BRUCE>>>>>>>>All are invited.......we just finished tuning all the reeds this evening....   It's a great organ...if you want the stop list, ask Dale.....   Jon Bertschinger   bruce cornely wrote:   > >FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH > >An American Baptist Congregation > >Wornall Road & Red Bridge > >Kansas City, Missouri > >52-rank, three-manual pipe organ by > >TEMPLE ORGANS, St. Joseph, Missouri > >Program will include works by Bach, Dubois, >Bridge, Vierne, and the > ever-popular >FANFARE by John Cook. > Stoplist... stoplist... stoplist... > > We need to know if this organ is worth the drive... hehehehehe > > bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net > > When a dog wants to hang out the "Do Not Disturb" sign, as all of us do > now and then, he is regarded as a traitor to his species. -- Ramona C. > Albery > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: chords....... From: jon <jonberts@swbell.net> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:26:19 -0500   No silly boy.....those were the pointer sisters.........LOL   Jon B.   bruce cornely wrote:   > >......but does anyone remember the "Pointer > > System". > Umm... weren't they a singing group??? ;-) > > bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net > > When a dog wants to hang out the "Do Not Disturb" sign, as all of us do > now and then, he is regarded as a traitor to his species. -- Ramona C. > Albery > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: weird stop.... From: "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:49:36 -0400   At 02:19 PM 5/12/99 EDT, you wrote: Also, have any of you >heard of the organists Raymond Daveluy and Rachel Laurin? They live here in >Montreal   OOOoooh, Carlo! Have we hard of them? Indeed, we have! We know their work by way of Mr. LaMirande from NYC, who regularly documents their skills and expertise on a list (PIPORG-L? I can't remember).   Oh, yes, we American organists do know that M. Daveluy is, perhaps, the best organist, best improviser, best conductor, best choir trainer, best service player, best composer, in the history of Canada. (all sarcasm intended).   Carlo, I believe Arthur's devotion to M. Daveluy is equal to your devotion to Miss Bish.   Yours,   Darryl by the Sea    
(back) Subject: Re: [Fwd: FBC Organ Recital this Sunday, KCMO] From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:54:53 -0400 (EDT)   Jon, sounds wonderful. I actually applied for the job at FBC-KC once upon a time. Anyway, nice going. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: [Fwd: crazy wedding requests......] From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 00:01:32 -0400 (EDT)   You're right Bruce, the SoM procession did work very well, especially since in that particular church the aisle was short. And it did sound good on a good organ, too. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: [Fwd: crazy wedding requests......] From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 00:36:01 -0400 (EDT)   Yes, Jerry, only once. It has never been requested since. And, I didn't think to put it in our wedding booklet as a possible processional number -- what was I thinking?? --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Aesthetics From: MWORGLBAU@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 01:46:58 EDT   Dear Bruce and list,   "Probably the best thing the architect did for this church was to provide "closets" for the organ. Those rooms should be used AS closets, rather than organ space. The parish could probably manage with less organ if it were not stuffed into chambers, but placed in a suitable case in close proximity to the congregation. If the problem is proximity of choir to congregation as well, I would rather have a small instrument in the choir and a larger instrument in the nave, rather than a bigger beast stuck in chambers and/or hanging on the walls, all difficult to service and tune, not to mention ugly!"   The "closet" space with being used metaphorically. They are organ chambers, but are small, with inadequate openings. This particular church is a lopsided rectangle, with the organ on one of the long sides, divided between the choir area, which is right up against the chancel. As in the chambers are small, the church itself is crowded, and no place to go. In fact the reason that the sanctuary in lopsided is that they removed a wall dividing the sanctuary and Sunday school, and made that a part of the sanctuary. As far as putting the organ out in front, and in a case, as well at it would be nice, no floor space for the case. As far as hanging it on the wall, remember that we are in earthquake country, and that building inspectors will not allow all that much weight to be cantilevered out into the church. This is a scream and shout church and does everything from classical to gospel, do it very well, and do it LOUD. This church needs a bigger organ that can handle the needs of the music and the church service, which the present organ is not.   "Organists, and I suppose, builders really need to seriously consider the fallacy of the biggest is bestest"   Oh, I agree. But this is an instance that the church needs more than what they already have. I'm fighting several negative point (as mentioned above), plus the fact that the place has heavy, thick carpet, and thick pew pads, which I'm told are there to stay.     Michael R. Williamson Williamson-Warne & Associates Hollywood Ca.  
(back) Subject: Re: used organs From: MickBerg@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 01:58:35 EDT   Is this Baldwin organ a 912? I was thinking of getting one, but could never get to hear one here in L.A., and I wasn't willing to buy without hearing it. I was told that the sound was better than anything analog, but nothing like as good as state of the art digital. I would be interested in your opinion of the instrument if it is a 912, and you do get it. The asking price for the one I was interested in was $2,000. (it had been damaged by a power surge but professionally repaired.) Mick Berg.  
(back) Subject: HORRIBLE MISTAKE From: DRAWKNOB@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 02:23:37 EDT   Dear list members:   If anyone on the list viewed my service music from Oak Cliff Lutheran Church - Easter 6... you will notice that I blundered and listed the anthem "If Ye Love Me" as being composed by Orlando Gibbons..... (DAHHHH, too much bourbon I guess - or a minor aneurysm, it's Thomas Tallis' work!)   Fortunately, I caught my own error in posting, tonight when I filed away last week's anthems. No one on the list has brought this to my attention.... So I figure either everyone thinks I'm just a huge BOOB -- who doesn't know diddley, you all are too polite, or you all don't pay attention to my postings. In any case I'm making it right at this point.   John   PS: I did have it listed correctly in the bulletin on Sunday, whatever that is worth.  
(back) Subject: Re: chords.. From: "Richard Scott-Copeland" <organist@hantslife.co.uk> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:46:01 +0100         >Sorry, D6 to me indicates D major, first inversion. OK, you're not talking >about two different chords, just two of many different ways that musicians have >developed of discussing music...the old "Ottman" and other theory texts use the >"6" to indicate first inversion of a triad. You're likely talking about the >so-called "added-sixth" chord (but you didn't say so in your original post).   Dear Rod (and list members) I see what you mean. Oh, the confusing nomenclature we as musicians have to put up with. I well remember a concert I had to accompany in which one 'item' was a Handelian piece which had a figured bass for the accompaniment, and the next, a modern 'worship' song which had top line and chord symbols. Boy, was that confusing!   So: D = Dmajor D6 = Dmajor chord PLUS the sixth note of the scale of D, i-e, add the note B (which, technically IS the same as Bm7, although the bass note decides whether it is called D6 or Bm7, of course.) D7-9 = the notes F#, A, C natural, E flat, BUT on a D bass note   Phew!   Richard and Emma Scott-Copeland Southampton England          
(back) Subject: Recital early notice: Ian Tracey (Liverpool) at Sheffield From: Cheryl C Hart <info@copemanhart.co.uk> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 09:52:57 +0100     Tuesday 8th June 1999 7.30 pm Sheffield (Anglican) Cathedral   Admission at the door: =A36.00 (concessions =A33.50) Details from jdr@pinus.freeserve.co.uk or sheffmusic@aol.com     ALSO: Tuesday 6th July same time same venue Oliver Eisenmann from Lucern, Switzerland     http://www.copemanhart.co.uk Email: info@copemanhart.co.uk   COPEMAN HART & COMPANY LTD Finedon Road=20 IRTHLINGBOROUGH Northamptonshire, England, NN9 5TZ   Registered in England No 696548   Tel: 01933 652600 Fax: 01933 652288 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ COPEMAN HART AMERICA Email Cpmnhartus@aol.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ COPEMAN HART AUSTRALIA Email hamilton.stives@bigpond.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~