PipeChat Digest #871 - Wednesday, May 19, 1999
 
So YOU switched the pipes!!
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
the integrity of older organs
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Things to see in Paris
  by "gregory@mke.earthreach.com" <gregory@mke.earthreach.com>
Fw: the integrity of older organs
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Must Do in Paris  Input Appreciated
  by <WiegandCJ@aol.com>
ToccataFest...can you take a scherzo?
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Barbara Owen, older organs, etc.
  by <CHERCAPA@aol.com>
Re: Barbara Owen, older organs, etc.
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: Rodgers Pipe Organs........
  by "Daryl Robinson" <darylrobinson@hotmail.com>
Re: Second Baptist, Houston
  by <ComposerTX@aol.com>
Re: Rodgers Pipe Organs........
  by "Mark Huth" <mhuth@rodgers.rain.com>
Re: Rodgers Pipe Organs........
  by "Daryl Robinson" <darylrobinson@hotmail.com>
Re: Rodgers Pipe Organs........
  by <ROBIN88866@aol.com>
[musiclassical] 19 MAY Almanac (fwd)
  by "R A Campbell" <rcampbel@U.Arizona.EDU>
Re: Rodgers Pipe Organs........
  by "Mark Huth" <mhuth@rodgers.rain.com>
Sacre Coeur, etc.
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
birth date
  by "Robert  Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net>
REQUEST..................
  by "Daryl Robinson" <darylrobinson@hotmail.com>
Re: So YOU switched the pipes!!
  by "Daryl Robinson" <darylrobinson@hotmail.com>
Wicks trackers
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Old Moller Chest problems
  by "jcmoore" <moorehse@midwest.net>
Re: REQUEST..................
  by "Bud/burgie" <budchris@earthlink.net>
Re: Must Do in Paris   Input Appreciated
  by "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk>
 


(back) Subject: So YOU switched the pipes!! From: KriderSM@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 06:25:27 EDT   ray ahrens writes: <Just switch the pipes yourself. I can't begin to tell you how much I had accomplished in an organ that way. Yes, it is sneaky but the organ never sounded better and at no cost to the church.>   ....but a real devil to tune if the technicians are not aware of the switch! >:-[ Imagine the tuner yelling down to the console jockey (what the key holders are sometimes called) to play the 2' flute, and the poor jockey can only find a 2' Principal. Frustration rules!!! Oh, well, it's your money. He he he >:-}   Stan Krider   >I guess I'll have to agree there. When I went to Holy Faith -- >Gainesville FL, I want the 2' flute on the Great switched with the 2' >principal on the swell so I could have a close-to-decent principal >chorus. It was approved, but by the time our turn in line for the work >rolled around, I had played the orga for nine months and grown to love >the 2' flute played (an octave or two lower) accompanied by the swell >strings (gasp, even the celeste).    
(back) Subject: the integrity of older organs From: KriderSM@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 06:32:46 EDT   Hey, wait a minute!!! I thought this was the Classical chat line!!! I thought only theatre organists moved ranks around like that. So, that's your dirty little secrets.... Hehehehe Classical organists can easily be drawn to the "Dark Side of the (Pipe Organ) Force" ;-)   Stan Krider   wdavis recently wrote:   <My attitude has always been: Do whatever sounds good! I have moved 4' flutes up to 2 2/3' on a couple of organs I've played over the years (much more useful), switched out a Vox Humana and Trumpet once, etc. Alexander Schreiner had them put the old Vox Humana from the Kimball organ in the Temple Square Assemblty Hall organ in the Tabernacle organ because he liked it so much. My organ teacher (Dora Poteet) used strange things if they were effective... the old SMU organ had an anemic Vox, so to give it a little sparkle she had us add the III Cornet from the Swell with it and it sounded just fine. A little ingenuity on the part of an organist does no harm and adds a lot! > >  
(back) Subject: Things to see in Paris From: "gregory@mke.earthreach.com" <gregory@mke.earthreach.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 99 06:18:06 -0500   Greetings:   Paris is such a beautiful city.! It is so difficult to suggest things/places to see in a short time.   May I suggest spending at least one evening just sitting at a quiet corner cafe, drinking coffee (or another favorite beverage) and soaking in the atmosphere.   There is also a huge flea market on the outskirts of the city. You can reach it by the Metro.   Also, if you are in a real exploring mood, visit the catacombs! Not well advertised, but quite a tour! Or.....take the sewer tour! This shows the routes used by the French Resistance during WWII.       Tom Gregory Waukesha WI USA   p.s. In June my wife and I will stop in Paris when traveling to Brussels to visit our AFS son.  
(back) Subject: Fw: the integrity of older organs From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 07:16:42 -0500   Unfortunately, many unscrupulous TO people carry 32 -foot shopping bags with them, and whole ranks disappear !   Rick   -----Original Message----- From: KriderSM@aol.com <KriderSM@aol.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 5:33 AM Subject: the integrity of older organs     >Hey, wait a minute!!! I thought this was the Classical chat line!!! I thought >only theatre organists moved ranks around like that. So, that's your dirty >little secrets.... Hehehehe Classical organists can easily be drawn to the >"Dark Side of the (Pipe Organ) Force" ;-) > >Stan Krider > >wdavis recently wrote: > ><My attitude has always been: Do whatever sounds good! I have moved 4' flutes >up >to 2 2/3' on a couple of organs I've played over the years (much more >useful), >switched out a Vox Humana and Trumpet once, etc. >Alexander Schreiner had them put the old Vox Humana from the Kimball organ in >the Temple Square Assemblty Hall organ in the Tabernacle organ because he >liked >it so much. >My organ teacher (Dora Poteet) used strange things if they were effective... >the >old SMU organ had an anemic Vox, so to give it a little sparkle she had us >add >the III Cornet from the Swell with it and it sounded just fine. >A little ingenuity on the part of an organist does no harm and adds a lot! > >> > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Must Do in Paris Input Appreciated From: WiegandCJ@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 09:32:58 EDT   In einer eMail vom 19.05.99 01:07:18 (MEZ) - Mitteleurop. Sommerzeit schreibt budchris@earthlink.net:   << Hope Notre-Dame is PLAYING by then. >>   It is. Organ concert every sunday at 17.15 h. << Has the organ at St. Denis been restored yet? >>   Restoration very successfull, finished some two or three years ago. << Sacre Coeur IS playing, but not as well as they'd hoped after the rebuild, from what I read. You can hear that organ just about anytime ... I think they have Benediction of the Blessed Sacrament every thirty minutes! Wonder how many organists they have???>>   It is the other way round. Because of the *perpetual adoration* in Sacre Coeur normally you can hear the (grand) organ only in the Sunday masses. << Did they finally finish the organ at St. Eustache? It was WAY behind schedule >>   The organ at St. Eustache was finished some ten years ago.   Carl  
(back) Subject: ToccataFest...can you take a scherzo? From: runyonr@muohio.edu (Randolph Runyon) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:11:33 -0500   > >>>It would be neat at some point in the service that Sunday to sing >...a... hymn set to the tune that is featured in throughout the piece, >especially in the pedal on p. 5, << > >Ah yes, Randy, but see that would unify the service. We can't have >that, can we?? LOL >--Neil   It is fun, though, to plant subtle connections among the elements of the service that only the cognoscenti will grasp. Like Ora Labora for Mother's Day.   On a another topic, actually back to something like the original one, how about following up on your month of toccatas with a month of scherzi (and explaining in a note in the bulletin what the word actually means)? There are two by Gigout, one played rather more often than the other, one by Bossi, and another by Samuel Rousseau. There must be some others in the literature, I just can't recall at the moment.   Randy Runyon runyonr@muohio.edu Organist and Music Director, Norwood Christian Church (Cincinnati, OH) Professor of French, Miami University (Oxford, OH)      
(back) Subject: Re: Barbara Owen, older organs, etc. From: CHERCAPA@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:10:21 EDT   Dear Bud, Off the subject of instruments but on topic as to carpal tunnel etc. I understand that you had an operation on your spine to correct your syndrome. I had carpal tunnel done on my right hand. My left hand, according to the orthopedic surgeon has carpal tunnel and tennis elbow. In 86 I had two discs taken out of my neck that were crushed in an aircraft accident in Ton Sahn Nhut . I just found out, or had it confirmed that the left side of my diaphragm is paralysed. I believe that that nerve or part of it, comes from the same area. On what part of your spine did you have the operation for your hands and what did they do or/and find. Paul P. Valtos  
(back) Subject: Re: Barbara Owen, older organs, etc. From: ScottFop@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:38:19 EDT   In a message dated 5/19/99 3:01:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, budchris@earthlink.net writes:   << Scott's SPECTACULAR Kilgen at Little Flower is a PERFECT example of an earlier organ that shouldn't be TOUCHED, except for a sympathetic restoration and MAYBE updating of the console's combination action, etc.   We did solid state the instrument because of the sheer size of it and the fact that it takes two separate relays to play it because of the two totally independent consoles- both of which can play the entire resources of all divisions. Certain Kilgen relay and console parts just cannot be gotten anymore- so I am told.       ... I don't even like to see new CONSOLES on organs like that. He's lucky that Little Flower survived unmangled, I would guess due to benign neglect and lack of money.   We have our original consoles (thank goodness!) They are very unique and quite exciting to look at.     But if a young baroque enthusiast had gotten his/her hands on it, you probably would have seen things like strings being removed or chopped to make mutations, swell shades being carted off, breaking-glass Zimbel mixtures being added, principals being rescaled, romantic reeds being replaced with Rohrschnarren bees-in-bedpans, etc.   Well- the Main Great expression shades (in the gallery) were removed to permit better access to the people working on the restoration of the organ. Believe me- they WILL be going back in! The ONLY tonal work that was altered was the top two ranks of the VII Main Great Mixture and the Main Great 2' Fifteenth. Their toe holes were opened up in the late 60's-early 70's to gain, you guesses it- MORE brilliance. (gee what a SURPRISE!!!!) >=o\ But they were professionally done and the holes were neatly and beautifully countersunk- putting them BACK and matching them to their ORIGINAL regulation well be no problem at all. Currently I rarely if ever use the Great mixture because it it shreiksville, but I do use Ripieno Combination #1 which has the low four ranks of that mixture. With no 2' stop and the Great Super coupler on it is quite a grand sound indeed! The Great 2' Fifteenth is unusable, unless you are in need of a dog whistle or going deaf. That is, it is unusable until it is regulated back where it belongs.     It IS possible to "clean up" a romantic organ without altering the essential character, but it takes a MASTER voicer to do it.   Why revoice??? The National Shrine Kilgen was originally voiced and regulated upon its installation in 1933 by Henry Vincent Willis IV and is nothing less than gorgeous all around! There WILL be no tonal alterations whatsoever as long as I am here.       We've seen several destructive cycles in American organ-building: first it was the electrocution mania ... hundreds of fine 19th century trackers were modernized beyond recognition, or discarded. Then G. Donald Harrison's work superceded that of E.M. Skinner. Then both were pulled out in favor of Holtkamps, etc. THEN the Holtkamps were pulled out in favor of trackers (!) ... and now the trackers are being replaced or augmented by (guess what!) ROMANTIC organs. I guess we've come full circle (grin).   And that's why I am so very pleased with and proud of the National Shrine Kilgen and why I intend to protect it from being bastardized. Thats also why I maintain an open door policy to all who wish to see and play it. Just call ahead!   Scott Foppiano   Being a slave to fashion is a VERY expensive business in organ-building. >>  
(back) Subject: Re: Rodgers Pipe Organs........ From: "Daryl Robinson" <darylrobinson@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:07:07 PDT   Do you live in Houston? How often do you call the church? Ask them about the history of the organ or ask any organist in Houston that knows anything about the organist at Second Baptist. Isn't it sord of obvious? No one wants to play there they hav enever had an organ recital to my knowledge. If they bought such a "great" instrument maybe you would know something. The last time I was there was when Fred Swann was in town and made fun of the "light show" that the organ had and reminded me of Virgil Fox! The organ was lacking 50 ranks that day. Come to Houston or ask someone at the church that might acctually know something other than just the fromt desk secretary!   Daryl   >From: "Mark Huth" <mhuth@rodgers.rain.com> >Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >To: pipechat@pipechat.org >Subject: Re: Rodgers Pipe Organs........ >Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:23:11 PST > > > >Daryl Robinson wrote: > > > Ask Diane Bish even. When she went for her taping 50 ranks were out. The > > organ is no good at all and I think taht you should come look at it > > yourself and know what your talking about before you post another >message > > like that. > >OK, this is ridiculous. I just called both the church and the organ >technician and neither of them supported your story. I'd ask you to be >more certain of your facts before posting again. > >Mark > > > >Mark Huth >Product Manager >Rodgers Instruments, LLC >mhuth@rodgers.rain.com >http://www.rodgersinstruments.com > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Second Baptist, Houston From: ComposerTX@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:17:24 EDT   Having played that Rodgers, I can tell you that there are occasional nice stops, but most are not very good. In fact, I have played better Wicks!!!!! Danny Ray  
(back) Subject: Re: Rodgers Pipe Organs........ From: "Mark Huth" <mhuth@rodgers.rain.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:19:00 PST     We have hit the point of diminishing return regarding the actual situation in Houston's Second Baptist Church, and I, for one would like to apologize for the messages which have cluttered everyone's inbox over the past few days. That was not my intention when I responded to previous postings regarding this organ.   It's quite obvious that there is a discrepancy regarding what is fact and fiction, and I tend to think that no amount of posting will remove that.   I can only share what I know from discussions with the church, the dealer and the regular organ technician at Second Baptist; if certain individuals choose to dismiss it, then that's certainly their perogative.   I'd encourage any of you who wish further clarification or information to contact me privately. Thanks for your patience and understanding.   Mark       Mark Huth Product Manager Rodgers Instruments, LLC mhuth@rodgers.rain.com http://www.rodgersinstruments.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Rodgers Pipe Organs........ From: "Daryl Robinson" <darylrobinson@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:12:34 PDT   Neil, This whole chat network, at least my understandig was, that this weas a place to discuss and in discussing you tend to express your personal opinions and FACTS of the rodgers at SBCH. I don't think that Mark REALLY knows what he is talking about since I am the one that lives in Houston, where does he live? Thank you i think i havve proven my point twice now.     Dary;   >From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) >Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >To: pipechat@pipechat.org (PipeChat) >Subject: Re: Rodgers Pipe Organs........ >Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 01:22:59 -0400 (EDT) > >Not to mention, Mark and Darryl, I think bashing a reputable instrument >manufacturer (despite your personal opinions) in an open forum is >mean-spirited and tacky. > --Neil > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Rodgers Pipe Organs........ From: ROBIN88866@aol.com Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:27:15 EDT   In a message dated 99-05-19 13:08:43 EDT, you write:   << Do you live in Houston? How often do you call the church? Ask them about the history of the organ or ask any organist in Houston that knows anything about the organist at Second Baptist. Isn't it sord of obvious? No one wants to play there they hav enever had an organ recital to my knowledge. If they bought such a "great" instrument maybe you would know something. >>     I have heard that the main reason there is not more going on with the organ at 2nd Baptist is because the minister HATES the instrument and anything to do with it. If nobody wants to play there it could possibly be because of this rather than an inferior instrument.     Robin  
(back) Subject: [musiclassical] 19 MAY Almanac (fwd) From: R A Campbell <rcampbel@U.Arizona.EDU> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:34:00 -0700 (MST)     From: AcoustiCDigest editors <acoustic_digest@yahoo.com>   1616 Birth of German organist Johann Jacob FROBERGER in Stuttgart 1859 Birth of Australian soprano Dame Nellie MELBA 1884 Birth of Belgian composer Arthur MEULEMANS. d- 29 JUN 1966 1886 Birth of German harpist Joseph E. SCHUECKER 1895 Birth of Scottish composer and writer Cecil GRAY 1896 Birth of Swedish mezzo-soprano Kerstin THORBERG 1911 In Paris, at The Opera Comique, FP of Ravel's 'L'Heure espagnole' 1921 The first broadcast of a full opera, 'Martha'. From Denver Auditorium over station 9ZAF, Denver. 1924 Birth of English composer Sandy WILSON 1949 Birth of English baritone Stephen VARCOE 1975 In Tucson AZ, KUAT-FM 90.5 signs on the air to broadcast classical music to Southern Arizona.       === We promote Classical and New Age Music.   AcoustiCDigest/Radio Prod. P.O.Box 16221 Tucson AZ 85732 NEWAGE, Acoustic & Classical Music Directories http://AcoustiCD.com CD sales at http://mycdstore.com _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com   ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ONElist: bringing the world together. http://www.onelist.com Join a new list today! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ compact disc discounts comparison shopping at:http://mycdstore.com and visit the Internet Classical Music Directory index at http://acousticd.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Rodgers Pipe Organs........ From: "Mark Huth" <mhuth@rodgers.rain.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:53:13 PST     > I have heard that the main reason there is not more going on with the > organ at 2nd Baptist is because the minister HATES the instrument and > anything to do with it. If nobody wants to play there it could possibly be > because of this rather than an inferior instrument. > > > Robin   The story which is bantied about here (which may or may not be true) is that the Pastor was most interested in how the instrument's facade would look as a backdrop during TV broadcasts.   Mark       Mark Huth Rodgers Instruments, LLC mhuth@rodgers.rain.com http://www.rodgersinstruments.com   ==========================   Money will buy you a pretty good dog, but it won't buy the wag of his tail.    
(back) Subject: Sacre Coeur, etc. From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:09:24 -0700   The last article I read (Diapason? Tracker?) said that the Grand Orgue at Sacre Coeur was used for most things, and that the choir organ was seldom used. Obviously the writer's info (and mine) is out of date (grin).   I'm glad to hear that St. Denis has been restored ... it was a LONG time coming ... Dupre talked about it in his book, and that was a VERY long time ago. Does anyone have the stoplist?   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: birth date From: "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:18:14 -0500   I tried to find the resource link but no luck. Can anyone tell me the birth year for Benton Price ? I assume he is still alive, if not I need that date too. Help I need this A.S.A.P.   Please e mail direct at highnote@mhtc.net   Thanks a bunch.     Robert Eversman Mineral Point WI    
(back) Subject: REQUEST.................. From: "Daryl Robinson" <darylrobinson@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:34:57 PDT   Just wanted to make sure that was seen! =) Off the subject of the Rodgers organs and onto a problem I have..... I am going to be at the Meyerson this next school year with our band at HSPVA and I am wondering if anyone out there has any suggestions for pieces that are for organ and band and who is the publisher. Remeber this is for only organ and band no strings about it. Anyway thanks,   Daryl     _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com  
(back) Subject: Re: So YOU switched the pipes!! From: "Daryl Robinson" <darylrobinson@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:40:10 PDT       I had played the orga for nine months and grown to love > >the 2' flute played (an octave or two lower) accompanied by the swell > >strings (gasp, even the celeste).   Wasn't it Virgil Fox that said if it sounds good use it? I think that rule would apply to celestes as most of them are not really tuned to much higher than your other strings or flutes. I say use 'em if it sounds good afterall isn't Virgil always right? ha   Bach "Gigue" Fugue, the last time I played that no one applauded before the number so I started to wave my feet around and got a standing ovation!   Daryl     _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com  
(back) Subject: Wicks trackers From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 14:40:23 -0400 (EDT)   Recently there was a discussion about Wicks trackers and there was some uncertainty regarding numbers, etc. I wrote to Wicks and received a very helpful response from Scott Wick, and I share some of this now.   He wrote: <<The first eight instruments that we built from the late 1800's to 1909 were all tracker instruments. After that, we experimented with the tubular pneumatic from 1909 until about 1914 when we started building electric action organs.   One of the first DE organs was our opus #151 built in 1914 which went to The Church of the Most Precious Blood in Hazelton, Pennsylvania. After that we built primarily DE organs with one or two tubular pneumatic and several tracker instruments.>>   Mr. Wick goes on to say that the earliest recent tracker was built in 1956. He then included a list of tracker installations:   U of New Mexico 2/9 (1974) Alexander City JCc (AL) 3/23 (1973) St. James Luth (IO) 2/15 (1975) U of Lowell (MA) 1/1 (x 2) (1977) Bethlehem Luth (IO) 2/20 (1976) Concordia Teachers (NE) 2/7 (1967); 2/19 (1965-81); 2/12 (1956) T. Scheck (VA) 2/2 (1990) Trinity Luth (TX) 2/13 (1991)   I appreciate Mr. Wick taking the time to share information with us.   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   If dogs could talk, perhaps we would find it as hard to get along with them as we do with people. -- Karl Capek http://www.threedog.com Three Dog Bakery    
(back) Subject: Old Moller Chest problems From: jcmoore <moorehse@midwest.net> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 14:10:11 -0500     I recently played a small Moller circa 1930-1940, with about one third of the great principal 8' non/semi functional. In talking to the tech who maintains the organ he ascribed the problem to internal leakage in the chest which prevents compete exhausting necessary to allow the individual pipes to speak. He indicated that repair was a major undertaking ($60K+). He described it as a common problem with old Mollers.   Not being versed in the specific functioning of this type of chest, I am interested in whether the diagnosis and proposed cure seem plausible and reasonable. please reply privately.   thanks,   JC Moore    
(back) Subject: Re: REQUEST.................. From: Bud/burgie <budchris@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:20:21 -0700   Daryl - Robert King Music Co. (still in business?) published all sorts of things for brass and organ. I'm not aware of anything for full concert band and organ, but it shouldn't be hard to expand some of the Robert King stuff and/or make arrangements from stuff for organ and orchestra.   Cheers,   Bud   P.S. - a lot of the Robert King stuff needs the pitch raised a whole step, which means recopying the trombone parts and marking the trumpets in "C", rather than B Flat ... I guess they were intended for brass groups of average ability ... but the lower pitches get pretty growly at times.   Daryl Robinson wrote:   > Just wanted to make sure that was seen! =) > Off the subject of the Rodgers organs and onto a problem I have..... > I am going to be at the Meyerson this next school year with our band at > HSPVA and I am wondering if anyone out there has any suggestions for pieces > that are for organ and band and who is the publisher. Remeber this is for > only organ and band no strings about it. Anyway thanks, > > Daryl > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Must_Do_in_Paris_=97_Input_Appreciated?= From: "Richard Pinel" <rpinelchat@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 20:47:15 +0100   Don't you want to hear Hakeem's manic improvisations? (La Trinite)   Richard. =========================================================   This message was sent to you by Richard Pinel. rpinel@musicman123.freeserve.co.uk   Fact of life #15: Heads bleed, walls don't