PipeChat Digest #874 - Thursday, May 20, 1999
 
Fw: 5 finger discounts on pipe ranks
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Fw: Fw: Fw: accompanying silent films
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: ToccataFest...can you take a scherzo?
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Rodgers Pipe Organs........
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: accompanying silent films
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Solid State Relay
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Baldwin Tower Speaker
  by <Posthorn8@aol.com>
[musiclassical] 20 MAY Almanac (fwd)
  by "R A Campbell" <rcampbel@U.Arizona.EDU>
slippery benches............
  by "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com>
Re: REQUEST..................
  by "Daryl Robinson" <darylrobinson@hotmail.com>
My apology and my new position......
  by "Daryl Robinson" <darylrobinson@hotmail.com>
Re: slippery benches............
  by "CJSD" <noto@river.netrover.com>
Re: slippery benches............
  by "Daryl Robinson" <darylrobinson@hotmail.com>
Re: My apology and my new position......
  by <ComposerTX@aol.com>
Re: My apology and my new position......
  by "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com>
Re: The organs I've owned
  by "jchabermaas" <opus1100@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Rodgers Pipe Organs
  by "Cheryl C Hart" <info@copemanhart.co.uk>
Re: My apology and my new position......
  by "Rod Murrow" <murrows@pldi.net>
 


(back) Subject: Fw: 5 finger discounts on pipe ranks From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 00:33:26 -0500   One has to be careful who one lets touch ones organ. I learned this from experience from a "technician" who left the instrument in shambles then disappeared.   Rick V.     -----Original Message----- From: KriderSM@aol.com <KriderSM@aol.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 9:06 PM Subject: 5 finger discounts on pipe ranks     >Many unscrupulous classical (church) people also get into chambers. (would >you believe what Ungodly things the "Godly" will do???) Tsk tsk! :-} >One dear (NOT) chuech organist even had his organ technician (I use the term >loosely) friend to revoice a beautiful Oboe stop into a loud Bronx Trumpet, >if you get my drift!! When the church fathers found out about that, all hell >broke loose!! I wish they would have carried some 8' shopping bags in that >case! > >Stan Krider > >Rick VEAGUErecently wrote: > ><Unfortunately, many unscrupulous TO people carry 32 -foot shopping bags with >them, and whole ranks disappear!> > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Fw: Fw: Fw: accompanying silent films From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 00:36:01 -0500   The suspenseful parts are so cluttered with fly specks, it takes a good sight-reader to get thru it.   Rick V.       -----Original Message----- From: Randolph Runyon <runyonr@muohio.edu> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 7:39 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: accompanying silent films     >>The silent scores I have are origional copies from the 20s for any film with >>appropriate weepy and drippy scenes. No particular films are mentioned. >> >>Rick V. >> >>Thanks for the clarification, Rick. I think we have a collection like >>that in our university music library, unless they've thrown it out. Bet >>there were a lot of tremulous diminished seventh chords for the >>suspenseful parts. > >Randy Runyon runyonr@muohio.edu >Organist and Music Director, Norwood Christian Church (Cincinnati, OH) >Professor of French, Miami University (Oxford, OH) > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: ToccataFest...can you take a scherzo? From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:01:46 -0400 (EDT)   Poor Neil! Bruised thumbs: no French music, no hitchhiking, ....back to the pasifier!!   Well have to have a healing service to lay hands on your thumbs!!! ;-)   Let's see, maybe you could play a toccata by Ligeti... um Ligheti... spaghetti ... etc... his music usually called for palms, forearms and elbows! ;-)   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   If dogs could talk, perhaps we would find it as hard to get along with them as we do with people. -- Karl Capek http://www.threedog.com Three Dog Bakery    
(back) Subject: Re: Rodgers Pipe Organs........ From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:04:19 -0400 (EDT)     >No offense intended, Darryl. --Neil   hmmmmm.... interesting how sensitive people get when their thumbs hurt!! ;-)   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   If dogs could talk, perhaps we would find it as hard to get along with them as we do with people. -- Karl Capek http://www.threedog.com Three Dog Bakery    
(back) Subject: Re: accompanying silent films From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:04:53 -0500   >Are there any available scores for organ to silent movies? > >Randy Runyon runyonr@muohio.edu >Organist and Music Director, Norwood Christian Church (Cincinnati, OH) >Professor of French, Miami University (Oxford, OH)   Yes!   Two people to contact spring to mind:   1. Dennis James, who is a FANTASTIC silent movie accompanist uses original scores. He posts occasinally to this list or piporg-l list.   2. Then there is Lee Erwin, who at an advanced age still manages to wow them with his scores. phone:212-777-5643   John V      
(back) Subject: Re: Solid State Relay From: John Vanderlee <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:20:04 -0500   The company's name is EMUTEK   sales@emutek.com   or   organ@emutek.com   website: www.emutek.com      
(back) Subject: Baldwin Tower Speaker From: Posthorn8@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:20:56 EDT   Hi list   Back in the 80's Baldwin made a speaker that was about 5' high and 2' wide. It had a speaker facing up out of the top, and had speakers facing out the front and sides too. These speakers were designed for the church line that Baldwin was building then. It could also be hooked up to the home line too (190, 191, Cinema III)   I don't remember the model number of the cabinet. Does anyone remember, and do they know where one can be found?   Thanks,   Tim  
(back) Subject: [musiclassical] 20 MAY Almanac (fwd) From: R A Campbell <rcampbel@U.Arizona.EDU> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 06:22:33 -0700 (MST)       Classical Music Almanac 20 MAY   1751 Death of Spanish opera composer Domenico Terradella 1798 Birth of French tenor Jean Baptiste CHOLLET in Paris 1890 Birth of Italian tenor Beniamino GIGLI 1893 Birth of German bass-baritone Hans Hermann NISSEN 1896 Death at Frankfurt am Main, of German pianist, teacher, composer and wife of composer Robert Schumann, Clara Wieck Schumann in Frankfurt am Main, Germany, at the age of 76. 1903 Birth of Polish composer Jerzy FITELBERG in Warsaw. In USA from 1940 1909 Birth of Austrian bass-baritone Erich KUNZ 1921 (1920?) Birth of American pianist, and sister of Yehudi, Hepzibah MENUHIN in San Francisco. d- NYC, 22 APR 1981 1926 Birth of English conductor George HURST 1940 Birth of Swiss conductor Karl Anton RICKENBACKER 1943 Birth of American composer Tison STREET in Boston. 1944 Birth of Brazilian pianist Cipa DICHTER. m. Mischa Dichter. 1948 In Paris, FP of Milhaud's Sym No 4, composer conducting 1952 Birth of English opera director Tim ALBERY 1966 Birth of English clari === We promote Classical and New Age Music.   AcoustiCDigest/Radio Prod. P.O.Box 16221 Tucson AZ 85732 NEWAGE, Acoustic & Classical Music Directories http://AcoustiCD.com CD sales at http://mycdstore.com _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com   ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What was YOUR favorite part?! http://www.onelist.com Tell other Star Wars fans at ONElist! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ compact disc discounts comparison shopping at:http://mycdstore.com and visit the Internet Classical Music Directory index at http://acousticd.com    
(back) Subject: slippery benches............ From: "Carlo Pietroniro" <concert_organist@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:19:56 EDT   greetings,   I was practicing the finale from the Concerto Gregoriano last night at a church, and during the pedal cadenza I nearly slid right off the bench. I think there should be a sign in every church saying not to polish the organ bench. I told the priest about it and he said there's a lady that comes in once a week to dust and she likes to use lots of 'Pledge'. What a hoot. I can almost read the headlines now: Organist sustains injuries during pedal solo---story at 11:00. Maybe organ benches should be equipped with seatbelts?   Carlo     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: REQUEST.................. From: "Daryl Robinson" <darylrobinson@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 06:43:15 PDT   Darryl,   HSPVA stands for:   The High School for the Performing and Visual Arts   >From: "Dr. Darryl Miller" <organdok@safari.net> >Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Subject: Re: REQUEST.................. >Date: Wed, 19 MaHSPVy 1999 18:22:12 -0400 > >Daryl (with one "r"), > >If you look in Leslie Spelman's wonderful book, "Organ Plus," published by >the Guild, you can find a plethora of useful music for different >combinations of instruments with organ. You might check, also, the piece >written for the 1984 San Francisco National by Miklos Rosza since it was >written for organ and brass and percussion. Although not for concert band, >it would be ideal at the Meyerson. > >I'm curious, too, for what "HSPVA" stands? > >There you have my little bit of information on this busy Wednesday in South >Florida. > >I do want to write concerning your wholesale and blatant disregard of the >information the "experts" have given concering the fine instrument at >Second Baptist Houston. However, I want to do be completely cautious when I >write the note. > >Yours, > >Darryl by the Sea > > > > > > > >At 12:20 PM 5/19/99 -0700, you wrote: > >Daryl - Robert King Music Co. (still in business?) published all sorts of > >things for brass and organ. I'm not aware of anything for full concert >band and > >organ, but it shouldn't be hard to expand some of the Robert King stuff >and/or > >make arrangements from stuff for organ and orchestra. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Bud > > > >P.S. - a lot of the Robert King stuff needs the pitch raised a whole >step, > >which means recopying the trombone parts and marking the trumpets in "C", > >rather than B Flat ... I guess they were intended for brass groups of >average > >ability ... but the lower pitches get pretty growly at times. > > > >Daryl Robinson wrote: > > > >> Just wanted to make sure that was seen! =) > >> Off the subject of the Rodgers organs and onto a problem I have..... > >> I am going to be at the Meyerson this next school year with our band at > >> HSPVA and I am wondering if anyone out there has any suggestions for >pieces > >> that are for organ and band and who is the publisher. Remeber this is >for > >> only organ and band no strings about it. Anyway thanks, > >> > >> Daryl > >> > >> _______________________________________________________________ > >> Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > >> > >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > >> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > >> HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > >> List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com  
(back) Subject: My apology and my new position...... From: "Daryl Robinson" <darylrobinson@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 07:01:39 PDT   O.K. I would first of all like to a pologize for all of these messages about the organ of 2nd Baptist. I mean if thats the organ that church likes well them let 'em have it for all I care. I would like to ask your help since I have just been apointed assitstant organist for Westminister Unt'd Methodist Church here in Houston. I have been asked to help on the design of the organ and it currently stands as a 46 rank Casavnat and we are going to add on to it 120 ranks but we are doing mostly Casavant for every thing except for the reeds cuz they don't have enough bight to them so I choose Ruffatti. The Ruffatti company is going to, along with adding new reeds, revoice the entire organ to tone it down a little since the room really isn't that big. We are going to enlare to 120 ranks with a 48 rank antiphonal and 2 en-chamade trompettes in the rear and a tuba under expression in the front with the Trompetter Harmonique that is already in place. We are also going to install a 5-manual console and use the 5th as a Trompeteria and run a wire so that you can play the tower bells from inside at the organ console. How does this sound? I think this will truely be a great instrument when we get through but I am not sure as to how much volume the room itself can hold. Like I said 46 is LOUD but 120 might just blow there little brains out! Anyway I would just like a few opinions, comments, etc. I playing there this Sunday since Garrett de la Cerda, the organist, is in Nebraska or something. The cool part about the whole job is that since I am on pay role now any of my recitals that I play the church will pay for everything as they do fro Garrett. Look for ME coming to a city near you SOON, hopefully that is anyway. OHHHHH and what kind of Zymbelstern (spelling?) do you guys suggeest?     Daryl       _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com  
(back) Subject: Re: slippery benches............ From: CJSD <noto@river.netrover.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:12:24 -0400 (EDT)   This reminds me of the organ bench at the Petrus Kerk in Leens, Groningen, The Netherlands. The 1733 bench is original and is extremely narrow. Like sitting on a 2 x 4. Not only is it difficult for us North Americans to find our way on a flat pedal board, one also has to balance on the narrow bench and concentrate on not falling off.       At 09:19 AM 5/20/99 EDT, you wrote: >greetings, > > I was practicing the finale from the Concerto Gregoriano >last night at a church, and during the pedal cadenza I nearly slid right off >the bench. I think there should be a sign in every church saying not to >polish the organ bench. I told the priest about it and he said there's a >lady that comes in once a week to dust and she likes to use lots of >'Pledge'. What a hoot. I can almost read the headlines now: Organist >sustains injuries during pedal solo---story at 11:00. Maybe organ benches >should be equipped with seatbelts? > >Carlo > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >   ************************************************************ Simon Dyk Toronto Canada   GOBER ORGANS INC. http://www.interlog.com/~goberorg CHURCH OF THE TRANSFIGURATION http://www.interlog.com/~transfig/trans.htm PERSONAL HOME PAGE: http://www.netrover.com/~noto/gober/~noto.html      
(back) Subject: Re: slippery benches............ From: "Daryl Robinson" <darylrobinson@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 07:37:59 PDT   Hey Carlo, I acctually kinda like the idea of the seat belts but I doubt that it look would very good. Perhaps it would prove useful in the Sowerby Pageant. Does anyone have any suggestions for playing on a flat pedal board since I will be at the Meyerson this summer and next year. I need to go on the Bach organ at Christ the King Lutheran here in Houston since it has a flat board and get a little practice in!   Daryl   >From: CJSD <noto@river.netrover.com> >Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Subject: Re: slippery benches............ >Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:12:24 -0400 (EDT) > >This reminds me of the organ bench at the Petrus Kerk in Leens, Groningen, >The Netherlands. The 1733 bench is original and is extremely narrow. >Like >sitting on a 2 x 4. Not only is it difficult for us North Americans to >find >our way on a flat pedal board, one also has to balance on the narrow bench >and concentrate on not falling off. > > > > At 09:19 AM 5/20/99 EDT, you wrote: > >greetings, > > > > I was practicing the finale from the Concerto Gregoriano > >last night at a church, and during the pedal cadenza I nearly slid right >off > >the bench. I think there should be a sign in every church saying not to > >polish the organ bench. I told the priest about it and he said there's a > >lady that comes in once a week to dust and she likes to use lots of > >'Pledge'. What a hoot. I can almost read the headlines now: Organist > >sustains injuries during pedal solo---story at 11:00. Maybe organ benches > >should be equipped with seatbelts? > > > >Carlo > > > > > >______________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > >************************************************************ >Simon Dyk >Toronto Canada > >GOBER ORGANS INC. >http://www.interlog.com/~goberorg >CHURCH OF THE TRANSFIGURATION >http://www.interlog.com/~transfig/trans.htm >PERSONAL HOME PAGE: >http://www.netrover.com/~noto/gober/~noto.html > > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com  
(back) Subject: Re: My apology and my new position...... From: ComposerTX@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:52:45 EDT   Daryl, I remember the story that the organist at First UMC in Fort Worth related to my organ class at TCU. Upon the completion of their new 110? rank Reuter with screaming Zimbels, etc., the first Sunday of its use, instead of blowing the cobwebs out of it, he tried to make it sound just like the old Kimball?. The next week he added a 4' principal, the next week a 2' flute, the next week a soft reed. There's a lot to be said for that approach. Good luck in your new assignment. I hope you have spent time on the Broadway Baptist Casavant in Fort Worth. It is a remarkable instrument -- reeds and all. Regards, Danny Ray  
(back) Subject: Re: My apology and my new position...... From: "Jason McGuire" <jason@johannus-norcal.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 07:50:18 -0700   I suggest listening to the work of several other organ builders before choosing anyone to enlarge or revoice the current organ. A really reputable builder will answer the questions about how much organ is "too much" for that room and what the right kind of stops, including reeds, are for the overall ensemble and the room. My personal choices would probably not be those that you made.   Jason ----------------------------------------------------- Pray for peace, love and good will towards all!   JOHANNUS of Northern California http://www.johannus-norcal.com   ---------- >From: "Daryl Robinson" <darylrobinson@hotmail.com> >To: pipechat@pipechat.org >Subject: My apology and my new position...... >Date: Thu, May 20, 1999, 7:01 AM >   >O.K. I would first of all like to a pologize for all of these messages about >the organ of 2nd Baptist. I mean if thats the organ that church likes well >them let 'em have it for all I care. I would like to ask your help since I >have just been apointed assitstant organist for Westminister Unt'd Methodist >Church here in Houston. I have been asked to help on the design of the organ >and it currently stands as a 46 rank Casavnat and we are going to add on to >it 120 ranks but we are doing mostly Casavant for every thing except for the >reeds cuz they don't have enough bight to them so I choose Ruffatti. The >Ruffatti company is going to, along with adding new reeds, revoice the >entire organ to tone it down a little since the room really isn't that big. >We are going to enlare to 120 ranks with a 48 rank antiphonal and 2 >en-chamade trompettes in the rear and a tuba under expression in the front >with the Trompetter Harmonique that is already in place. We are also going >to install a 5-manual console and use the 5th as a Trompeteria and run a >wire so that you can play the tower bells from inside at the organ console. >How does this sound? I think this will truely be a great instrument when we >get through but I am not sure as to how much volume the room itself can >hold. Like I said 46 is LOUD but 120 might just blow there little brains >out! Anyway I would just like a few opinions, comments, etc. I playing there >this Sunday since Garrett de la Cerda, the organist, is in Nebraska or >something. The cool part about the whole job is that since I am on pay role >now any of my recitals that I play the church will pay for everything as >they do fro Garrett. Look for ME coming to a city near you SOON, hopefully >that is anyway. OHHHHH and what kind of Zymbelstern (spelling?) do you guys >suggeest? > > >Daryl > > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >  
(back) Subject: Re: The organs I've owned From: "jchabermaas" <opus1100@theatreorgans.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 08:33:21 -0500   Mine is a somewhat shorter list:   Hammond C-3 (was actually my dad's) 2/8 Hybrid pipe organ..home built from whatever I could scrounge up an article on this organ is in the December 1966 Theatre Organ Magazine ....this organ was moved and set-up in three different homes and unfortunately eventually broken up for parts (one of my life's big mistakes) Allen Electronic..very early and very limitied Conn Rhapsody * WurliTzer Style D 2/6 Pipe Organ *   * Currently have these two in my home   regards,   Jon      
(back) Subject: Re: Rodgers Pipe Organs From: Cheryl C Hart <info@copemanhart.co.uk> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:24:21 +0100     I am wondering whether Daryl has made such an attack on Rodgers because he despises any organ made by a company which is possibly better known as an electronic organ manufacturer, or because he has a personal axe to grind about Rodgers, or because he is simply (and gullibly?) repeating what someone else with an axe to grind has said to him. Daryl may well feel he has freedom of speech with impunity, but it would appear he has not yet learned what responsibilities that freedom brings.   As most of us know, there is nearly always more to this kind of gossip than meets the eye - and blame can often be placed at the door of church politics (if not a competitor's salesman on commission).   It is not unknown for some churches or institutions - by that I mean either individuals, or committees, within the organisation - to refuse to call in the organ builder or the servicing company just so they can declare that the organ is in poor shape or constantly faulty and X company does not come to put it right. Why do they do this? Because they have an agenda, but it is one which is dishonest and devious. Sometimes there are very strange factions ruling within an organisation, whose motives are not the purest. And 'facts' from some churches or institutions often need to be taken with a ton of salt - which is somewhat alarming when one considers what they stand for (yes, I already know, verbatim, the lecture on human nature, the church is for sinners, and "they that are whole need not a physician . . ." etc, so may I please request that no-one takes up bandwidth on that topic on my account!).   I am not saying that all companies are paragons of virtue - that would be foolish in the extreme, and I am more cynical than most. However, I do not for one moment believe that Mark and his colleagues in the Rodgers corporation treat their customers with the disdain which Daryl implies: quite the contrary. I know a number of Rodgers people - we are friendly competitors - and these are men (I've not met a Rodgers woman yet) whose business ethics and personal mores I respect enormously. Is such a company likely to ignore a situation, once they know about it, which could sully their reputation? I think not.   Now, it should be remembered that even when the organ builders are made aware (from another source) of a problem with one of their instruments, it does not automatically follow that they will be able to go in and put it right: through no fault of their own, organ builders can be the victims of political issues within the organisation which owns the instrument, and if the owners refuse access, or refuse either to discuss or communicate about the matter, there is nothing the organ builders can do. They can end up with a tarnished reputation which is completely unjustified, and they may never know why.   Cheryl     http://www.copemanhart.co.uk Email: info@copemanhart.co.uk   COPEMAN HART & COMPANY LTD Finedon Road IRTHLINGBOROUGH Northamptonshire, England, NN9 5TZ   Registered in England No 696548   Tel: 01933 652600 Fax: 01933 652288 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ COPEMAN HART AMERICA Email Cpmnhartus@aol.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ COPEMAN HART AUSTRALIA Email hamilton.stives@bigpond.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~    
(back) Subject: Re: My apology and my new position...... From: Rod Murrow <murrows@pldi.net> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:37:22 -0500   Daryl Robinson wrote:   > I have just been apointed assitstant organist for Westminister Unt'd > Methodist > Church here in Houston. I have been asked to help on the design of the organ > and it currently stands as a 46 rank Casavnat and we are going to add on to > it 120 ranks but we are doing mostly Casavant for every thing except for the > reeds cuz they don't have enough bight to them so I choose Ruffatti. The > Ruffatti company is going to, along with adding new reeds, revoice the > entire organ to tone it down a little since the room really isn't that big. > We are going to enlare to 120 ranks with a 48 rank antiphonal and 2 > en-chamade trompettes in the rear and a tuba under expression in the front > with the Trompetter Harmonique that is already in place. We are also going > to install a 5-manual console and use the 5th as a Trompeteria and run a > wire so that you can play the tower bells from inside at the organ console. > How does this sound?   Sounds to me like you're inviting problems if the organ is already to big for the room - going from 48 to 120 ranks and a 5-manual console? Sounds like a dream, but may turn into a nightmare if it overpowers the space.   Rod Murrow