PipeChat Digest #882 - Monday, May 24, 1999
 
Re: Fw: Need help urgently - STOP LAUGHING!
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: The Lost Chord
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: Mixture thread
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
"I Want to Be Like Jesus"
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: request for copies!!
  by "Rod and Carolyn Murrow" <murrows@pldi.net>
mixtures from the top
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
ToccataFest 1999 is history
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re:  Pipedream's query
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Re: Mixture thread
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re:  Pipedream's query
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Fw: Moscow Organ Dedication
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re:  Pipedream's query
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re:  Pipedream's query
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Fw: ToccataFest 1999 is history
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: Fw: ToccataFest 1999 is history
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: ToccataFest 1999 is history
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: ToccataFest 1999 is history
  by "N Brown" <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net>
Re: Mixtures from the top
  by "Richard Scott-Copeland" <organist@x-stream.co.uk>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Fw: Need help urgently - STOP LAUGHING! From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 21:46:47 -0400 (EDT)   Glenda, I think the thing to do is to get a copy of the vocal score with piano reduction accompaniment, and read through it until you find a movement or two that are accessible and maybe recognizable. I wouldn't think that you would be expected to play the entire requiem (are you going to sing, too!). Just play the accompaniment and be sure that the melody line is present. Pretty much the same for the Eroica, except that you might get a CD and listen to it and find which movements are particularly transcribable and then get a score or score reduction from a music store. You can get the basic 4-part harmony idea and voice movement. It shouldn't be too hard. Another possibility is to listen to a recording of either piece, get the melody and texture of the music in your head and just play it by ear. Possibly you can find themes in a fake book.   Another possibility for the Verdi, would be to find an anthem reduction of part of the Requiem. Do keep us posted. Have a nice week!!!   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   If dogs could talk, perhaps we would find it as hard to get along with them as we do with people. -- Karl Capek http://www.threedog.com Three Dog Bakery    
(back) Subject: Re: The Lost Chord From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:09:47 -0400 (EDT)     >Just saw and heard Diane Bish play this piece > (Joy of Music) on the Ruffatti organ in Fort > Lauderdale. Tell me! Tell me! Did she sing, too????   >it just didn't seem to build up to the full-organ > power as did the old Jesse Crawford 78-rpm > version Bill, Chances are it's a bit of both. Jesse Crawford was probably playing some gutsy Wurli, and, as in most things, the power comes from the bottom!!   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   If dogs could talk, perhaps we would find it as hard to get along with them as we do with people. -- Karl Capek http://www.threedog.com Three Dog Bakery    
(back) Subject: Re: Mixture thread From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:16:27 -0400 (EDT)   >Builders way back when, way before > Helmholtz and Fourier, knew what the > harmonic series was, and, (IMHO) knew the > psychoacoustic law that "brighter always > sounds louder, without being louder". Gee! Too bad they've forgotten that part!   >Happy the all-around organist that could have > an instrument that had BOTH schools > available from a single console! But if you have two distinct organs, why not have two consoles???? ;-)   >Just my 2=A2's worth...change provided upon > request. ..01 ca-CHING! ;-)   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   If dogs could talk, perhaps we would find it as hard to get along with them as we do with people. -- Karl Capek http://www.threedog.com Three Dog Bakery    
(back) Subject: "I Want to Be Like Jesus" From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:18:33 -0400 (EDT)   Sorry, Randy. Siyahamba is a Zulu traditional Christian song that has been made popular by the American Boychoir and others. Hal Hopson has a delightful arrangement of it--we did it at our church a few months back. When I say "I want to Be Like Jesus" is sort of in that style, I'm referring to its persistent beat, simple 4-pt harmonies, and repetitions. It's in a spiritual style, but it was composed by Philip Landgrave many years ago. It has been resurrected by Church Street Music--a new publishing wing of the Southern Baptist Convention. HOpe this is helpful. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: request for copies!! From: "Rod and Carolyn Murrow" <murrows@pldi.net> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 21:31:25 -0500   I DID get the one titled A JOYFUL NOISE...by Jordan. But also need the Augsburg publication titled Preludes and Postludes, Vol. 4...   R Murrow     -----Original Message----- From: N Brown <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Friday, May 21, 1999 10:12 PM Subject: Re: request for copies!!     Rod, I'm confused. You do or don't need the Alice Jordan book? --Neil      
(back) Subject: mixtures from the top From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 21:35:24 -0500   Good article Bud --I'll put this in my +ACI-technical organ+ACI- file.   In the 60s with a resurgance of Baroque instruments, many nice organs were butchered into harsh, screechy ' kists 'o whistles ' that would pop the wax right out of ones ears. The poor tuner would probably be seeing birds, stars, and whatever after tuning 10 to 15 rank mixtures --not to mention heading for the nearest pub+ACE-   Properly voiced, mixtures can add much tone coloring to registrations, and beef up the pedal with (real) resultants.   Rick dutchorgan+AEA-svs.net        
(back) Subject: ToccataFest 1999 is history From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:56:03 -0400 (EDT)   Finished up the "experiment" today with my own "HB Toccata". It went well and my bumthumbs cooperated nicely. It's really interesting that in all 4 weeks, the congregation was not at all in a hurry to get up and leave after I played. This is most unusual at our Church, let me tell ya. I'm not sure we have curbed the natural tendency for them to bolt out the door after the benediction, but if a visitor would have come these last 4 weeks, they would not have known any other way. I'm probably not explaining myself clearly, but I'm most pleased that I went ahead with the ToccataFest and that most people really seemed to enjoy it. Now on to my September recital!! Have a great week in the Lord. --Neil Brown, Barnegat, NJ USA    
(back) Subject: Re: Pipedream's query From: Noel Stoutenburg <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:09:27 -0500   In the past, I have had pretty good luck getting direct responses from MB. You might go to the Pipedreams website, and post your question directly to them.    
(back) Subject: Re: Mixture thread From: David Scribner <david@blackiris.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:16:41 -0500   At 10:16 PM -0400 5/23/99, bruce cornely wrote: >>Happy the all-around organist that could have >> an instrument that had BOTH schools >> available from a single console! >But if you have two distinct organs, why not have two consoles???? ;-) > The Midmer-Losh in AC Convention Hall does have two consoles - unfortunately the 5 manual "portable" console has been disconnected and resides in the building's lobby. There is a photo of the 5 manual console on the web site at http://www.acchos.org Stephen Smith, President of the ACCHOS, has prepared a full index of the 5 manual console available for $4.00 from the ACCHOS.   David ********************** David Scribner Director of Communications Atlantic City Convention Hall Organ Society http://www.acchos.org/ info@acchos.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipedream's query From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 23:18:22 -0400 (EDT)   I just wish I could get Pipedreams around here. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Fw: Moscow Organ Dedication From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:35:28 -0500   Thank you Roc, for the kind words. We ain't got the biggest, but its pipes !!   Rick V.   -----Original Message----- From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Sunday, May 23, 1999 9:51 PM Subject: Re: Moscow Organ Dedication     >Congrats Rick! > I know you have worked on this project for quite a while,,,at least as >long as I have been on this list. > The listed program sounded very nice I am sure, and it is just another >example that bigger is NOT necessary,,NOR absolutely needed. I am sure that >your "country" church is just as happy, if not more, than a "city" church >dedicating a 100r behemoth, and breaking the bank on it so it wont have any >maintenance or tuning for years. >Cheers, >---Roc > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Pipedream's query From: David Scribner <david@blackiris.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:35:34 -0500   >I just wish I could get Pipedreams around here. --Neil > I just finished listening to it from WQED-FM in Pittsburgh via the Net using RealPlayer. Check the PipeDreams web site for information on how to do this. It is a godsend when your local stations do not broadcast it. I also listen to The Organ Loft from Seattle on Sundays via RealPlayer.   David  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipedream's query From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 23:41:42 -0400 (EDT)   hmmm. Thanks for the tip, David. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Fw: ToccataFest 1999 is history From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 23:21:33 -0500   TWO THUMBS UP, NEIL !!!   -----Original Message----- From: N Brown <Innkawgneeto@webtv.net> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Sunday, May 23, 1999 10:59 PM Subject: ToccataFest 1999 is history     Finished up the "experiment" today with my own "HB Toccata". It went well and my bumthumbs cooperated nicely. It's really interesting that in all 4 weeks, the congregation was not at all in a hurry to get up and leave after I played. This is most unusual at our Church, let me tell ya. I'm not sure we have curbed the natural tendency for them to bolt out the door after the benediction, but if a visitor would have come these last 4 weeks, they would not have known any other way. I'm probably not explaining myself clearly, but I'm most pleased that I went ahead with the ToccataFest and that most people really seemed to enjoy it. Now on to my September recital!! Have a great week in the Lord. --Neil Brown, Barnegat, NJ USA     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: Fw: ToccataFest 1999 is history From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 00:30:42 -0400 (EDT)   hardy har har, Rick!! --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: ToccataFest 1999 is history From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 00:56:34 -0400 (EDT)   Now, to test how well the congregation has been trained to listen to the postlude, list a postlude and then when the benediction is done just sit there and don't play anything. See how long it then takes for people to start getting up to leave.   Or you could play a single quiet note and look like your beginning a very sensitive improvisation. Then prop the note with a pencil and get up from the console and walk away. Check and see how long it takes people to start getting up.   Read more in my new book:   Playing for Church Can Be Fun (or)   Torturing People Out of Their Religion!! ;-)   bruce cornely cremona84000@webtv.net   Trained or not, he'll always be his own dog to a degree. -- Carol Lee Benjamin   http://www.threedog.com Three Dog Bakery    
(back) Subject: Re: ToccataFest 1999 is history From: Innkawgneeto@webtv.net (N Brown) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 01:13:11 -0400 (EDT)   Actually, Bruce, I'm going on vacation this next week. but your post is funny nonetheless. --Neil    
(back) Subject: Re: Mixtures from the top From: "Richard Scott-Copeland" <organist@x-stream.co.uk> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:38:43 +0100     As concise a read about mixtures you could nowhere else! Well done!